[SFRA-L] dan simmons query
n.easterbrook at tcu.edu
Tue Mar 6 10:33:56 EST 2012
Sorry that I wasn't clear. I didn't mean to say anything abt Stapledon's or ACC's politics, but abt how they give third-person narrators the job of didactic moralizing, or summarizing huge cosmic events, and so forth. Heinlein is just as didactic, tho he gives preaching to characters rather than the narrator.
My copy of The City and the Stars is at home, but a good example is the moment when the narrator explains "the master" and his robot-and how in the last billion years finally false religion was replaced by science, etc. Hectoring, and omniscient. There are lots of similar moments in The Hammer of God, 3001, Childhood's, etc.
From: Sawyer, Andy [mailto:A.P.Sawyer at liverpool.ac.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:35 AM
To: Easterbrook, Neil; sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu
Subject: RE: dan simmons query
Portions of the text are given to Stapledon/AC Clarke-style cultural screeds that are unremittingly "conservative" in tone and substance.
I've not read FLASHBACK but I'm interested by "Stapledon . . . conservative" - Clarke yes, but Stapledon was associated politically with the Left, although his "cosmic" viewpoint might be seen otherwise. And what was radical-left in the 30s could well be construed as otherwise 70+ years later.
I've certainly noted Stapledonian-cosmic themes in some of Simmons's sf, but I don't think I was reading for specifically political content when I read him.
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From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Easterbrook, Neil
Sent: 05 March 2012 17:37
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Subject: [SFRA-L] dan simmons query
Dear Hive Mind--
So I'm writing something abt "libertarian" sf, and one of the things I'm reading is Dan Simmons' newest book, _Flashback_.
Portions of the text are given to Stapledon/AC Clarke-style cultural screeds that are unremittingly "conservative" in tone and substance. (Certainly more "conservative" than "libertarian," at least so far.) Very much like, say, John Ringo's tone and commentary, in such things as _The Last Centurion_.
While I'm always careful to distinguish authors and narrators, consistent patterns across books does indeed indicate something abt authors.
I'm racking my brain, however: while I've read a good portion of Simmons' work--especially the sf books--I can't recall any text that went off on screeds abt contemporary US politics.
Does anyone remember anything in Simmons that's overtly, aggressively, and unequivocally a didactic fiction (or portion thereof) on politics, left, right, or center?
Thanks for yr efforts,
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