From lars.schmeink at uni-hamburg.de Wed Aug 1 18:07:29 2012 From: lars.schmeink at uni-hamburg.de (Lars Schmeink) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 00:07:29 +0200 Subject: [SFRA-L] Request for two older articles Message-ID: Dear Hive Mind, looking for two articles that seem to be hard to find in German libraries - or take forever to get here on loan. If you have them as pdf by any chance, could you send them my way please... Medium and Message in Ellison's 'I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream' Cobb, Joanna P. pp. 159-167 IN: Myers, Robert E.; The Intersection of Science Fiction and Philosophy: Critical Studies. Westport, CT; Greenwood; 1983. (xvi, 262 pp.) and Symbolic Settings in Science Fiction: H. G. Wells, Ray Bradbury, and Harlan Ellison Patrouch, Joe Journal of the Fantastic in the Arts (JFA) 1988; 1 (3): 37-45. [Journal Detail] Can anyone help out? Thanks a bunch... Lars ---------------------- Universit?t Hamburg Institut f?r Anglistik und Amerikanistik Lars Schmeink Von Melle Park 6 20146 Hamburg Email: lars.schmeink at uni-hamburg.de Tel. +49 / 40 / 428 38 2689 From pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com Fri Aug 3 18:10:38 2012 From: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com (pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:10:38 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] Total flop? Message-ID: The reviews I've seen of the new TOTAL RECALL are far from kind, and the full-page ad for the movie dioesn't quote any -- usually even a bad movie will have endorsements from some obscure newspaper or website. Guess it shows these guys don't know dick about making an sf film. --J.J. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ErlichRD at MUOhio.edu Fri Aug 3 18:57:26 2012 From: ErlichRD at MUOhio.edu (Richard Erlich) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 15:57:26 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] Total flop? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <479ED2EE-F824-41FE-9B75-6A97A6130C2A@MUOhio.edu> On 03/08/2012, at 15:10, pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com wrote: > The reviews I've seen of the new TOTAL RECALL are far from kind, and the full-page ad for the movie doesn't quote any -- usually even a bad movie will have endorsements from some obscure newspaper or website. Guess it shows these guys don't know dick about making an sf film. > > --J.J. Update: Mixed reviews coming in from a number of the heavy hitters: . Lower scores on Rotten Tomatoes: . (I shouldn't be, but I'm still a bit taken aback at the large range of evaluations of many films.) Rich > Total Recall > > Columbia Pictures > Release Date: Aug 3, 2012 > Summary > Critic Reviews > User Reviews > Details & Credits > Trailers & Videos > Metascore > 44 > Mixed or average reviews based on 35 Critics > > Critic score distribution: > Positive: 9 out of 35 > Mixed: 20 out of 35 > Negative: 6 out of 35 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com Fri Aug 3 19:32:18 2012 From: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com (pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:32:18 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] Fwd: Total flop? Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com [mailto:pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com] Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 07:26 PM To: 'Susan A. George' Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Total flop? Isn't it obvious? But it's odd that that they think they can wave the memory of PKD like a magic wand to attract an audience, when most of the people who go to movies haven't read Dick and may noit even have heard of him. --J.J.P. -----Original Message----- From: Susan A. George [mailto:sageorge13 at yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 06:33 PM To: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com Subject: RE: [SFRA-L] Total flop? Do you mean they don?t know dick about Dick! Susan G From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 3:11 PM To: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: [SFRA-L] Total flop? The reviews I've seen of the new TOTAL RECALL are far from kind, and the full-page ad for the movie dioesn't quote any -- usually even a bad movie will have endorsements from some obscure newspaper or website. Guess it shows these guys don't know dick about making an sf film. --J.J. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atlscifiguy at bellsouth.net Fri Aug 3 20:04:01 2012 From: atlscifiguy at bellsouth.net (Lewis Murphy) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:04:01 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] Fwd: Total flop? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <501C66F1.4070000@bellsouth.net> I think that is true of the people MAKING the movies, in many cases. Lewis On 8/3/2012 7:32 PM, pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com wrote: > -----Original Message----- > *From:* pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com [mailto:pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com] > *Sent:* Friday, August 3, 2012 07:26 PM > *To:* 'Susan A. George' > *Subject:* Re: [SFRA-L] Total flop? > > Isn't it obvious? But it's odd that that they think they can wave the > memory of PKD like a magic wand to attract an audience, when most of > the people who go to movies haven't read Dick and may noit even have > heard of him. > > --J.J.P. > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Susan A. George [mailto:sageorge13 at yahoo.com] > *Sent:* Friday, August 3, 2012 06:33 PM > *To:* pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com > *Subject:* RE: [SFRA-L] Total flop? > > Do you mean they don't know dick about Dick! Susan G > > *From:*sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu > [mailto:sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] *On Behalf Of > *pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com > *Sent:* Friday, August 03, 2012 3:11 PM > *To:* sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu > *Subject:* [SFRA-L] Total flop? > > The reviews I've seen of the new TOTAL RECALL are far from kind, > and the full-page ad for the movie dioesn't quote any -- usually > even a bad movie will have endorsements from some obscure > newspaper or website. Guess it shows these guys don't know dick > about making an sf film. > > --J.J. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ErlichRD at MUOhio.edu Fri Aug 3 21:04:16 2012 From: ErlichRD at MUOhio.edu (Richard Erlich) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 18:04:16 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] Total flop? (TOTAL RECALL [2012]) In-Reply-To: <501C66F1.4070000@bellsouth.net> References: <501C66F1.4070000@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: I'm unable to get iMail to list the posts earliest first ? so you may want to read these from the bottom up. I haven't seen the new TOTAL RECALL yet, but I heard it's closer to "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale" than the earlier version was, and for sure Colin Farrell is a more plausible version of Dick's Douglas Quail than Arnold Schwarzenegger was. I will see the film, but I don't have high hopes, in large part because I'm not too keen on the whole premise of "Wow, man, what if it's all illusion ? like everything?!?" (I do respect INCEPTION, but one such film every five years is enough for me.) More general issues ? a quick story: A student group gave a presentation to a class I taught, a class assigned to a long, narrow, steeply-raked lecture room too big for us. I sat among the students, on the center aisle. The group doing the presentation had their usual seats in the back of the hall. Their presentation was really, really poor, and their walk up the aisle could not have been a pleasant experience for them. One, though, had the grace to give me an oblique compliment all teachers should appreciate: He tilted slightly and muttered on his way past me, "It's harder than it looks." Ditto for making even a bad movie. Sometimes it's a good idea to go over with the scriptwriter the source of the film: e.g., when there's some incoherence in the script one doesn't recall from the original. Sometimes it's just as well if all concerned leave the source behind. (Again, my colleague the director of film studies suggested that no one should waste time reading the novel _The Graduate_, and a fair number of other sources are undistinguished. Indeed, an opera critic I encountered ? or the one I worked with? ? suggested that it may be just as well if operas are based on rather crude myths or dumb-ass melodramas.) I like both _Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep_ and BLADE RUNNER, but I'm not sure BLADE RUNNER would be improved esthetically if Ridley Scott had hewn closer to the novel. I'm enough of a humanist to prefer PKD to RS on empathy in the story, but Scott had his idea and (God help us!) vision, and the filmmakers owned the rights: it was their movie and, significantly their title. If they'd titled it and advertised it "P. K. DICK'S DO ANDROID'S DREAM ?", I'd object. As I've mentioned here or on the IAFA List, I did once advertise Lawrence Olivier's HENRY V as "Lawrence Olivier's HENRY V (Dialog by William Shakespeare)" because it was Olivier's propaganda movie ? and a worthy one ? not really Shakespeare's more ambiguous play. Truth in titling and advertising is an issue. Maybe it'll be just as well if the major studios finish up with PKD. There are a lot of other worthy projects out there (including THE FOREVER WAR, currently in very big-time development). Over to the Group ? Erlich out. On 03/08/2012, at 17:04, Lewis Murphy wrote: > I think that is true of the people MAKING the movies, in many cases. > > Lewis > > On 8/3/2012 7:32 PM, pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com wrote: >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com [mailto:pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com] >> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 07:26 PM >> To: 'Susan A. George' >> Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Total flop? >> >> Isn't it obvious? But it's odd that that they think they can wave the memory of PKD like a magic wand to attract an audience, when most of the people who go to movies haven't read Dick and may noit even have heard of him. >> >> --J.J.P. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Susan A. George [mailto:sageorge13 at yahoo.com] >> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 06:33 PM >> To: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com >> Subject: RE: [SFRA-L] Total flop? >> >> Do you mean they don?t know dick about Dick! Susan G >> >> From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com >> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 3:11 PM >> To: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> Subject: [SFRA-L] Total flop? >> >> The reviews I've seen of the new TOTAL RECALL are far from kind, and the full-page ad for the movie dioesn't quote any -- usually even a bad movie will have endorsements from some obscure newspaper or website. Guess it shows these guys don't know dick about making an sf film. >> --JJ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rikk.mulligan at gmail.com Fri Aug 3 21:25:41 2012 From: rikk.mulligan at gmail.com (Rikk Mulligan) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:25:41 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] CFP: Science Fiction and Fantasy SW/TX PCA/ACA (12/1/12; 2/13-16/2013) Message-ID: <501C7A15.20907@gmail.com> Greetings fellow listees, Given how strained many of our department (and personal) budgets are, it is never too early to begin planning for the conferences of 2013. For your consideration: ** * * *CFP: Science Fiction and Fantasy//SW/TX PCA/ACA (12/1/12; 2/13-16/2013) * Join us for the 34^rd Annual Southwest/Texas Popular Culture and American Culture Associations Conference, February 13-16, 2013 at the Hyatt Regency in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The Science Fiction and Fantasy Area chairs of the Southwest/Texas Popular Culture/American Culture Associations (www.swtxpca.org ) invite paper or panel proposals on any aspect of science fiction in print, film, or other media. Proposal submission deadline: *November 16, 2012 * Any and all topics will be considered. Past presentations have covered a variety of topics including British sci-fi TV, Fan Studies, Race, gender, sexuality, and socio-economic class, science fiction and fantasy and pedagogy, adaptation and a variety of texts from the Harry Potter books to the film /Splice/ to Mystery Science Theater 3000. Submit 250-word paper or 500 word panel proposals to the 2013 SWTX Presenter Database. Choose the area "Science Fiction & Fantasy -- General." *This online submission database will be available after September 15.* If you are experiencing difficulties with the website, please email your proposal to the address listed below.) Direct questions to: Ximena Gallardo, ximena_gallardo_c at yahoo.com or Rikk Mulligan, rikk.mulligan at gmail.com Early Bird Registration Deadline is December 31, 2012. *Conference hotel: * Hyatt Regency Albuquerque 330 Tijeras Albuquerque, NM 87102 Phone: 1.505.842.1234 Fax: 1.505.766.6710 Conference Rate Reservations can be made through www.swtxpca.org For more details on the conference, please visit the Southwest/Texas Popular Culture/American Culture Association: www.swtxpca.org . Follow us on Facebook & Twitter: www.facebook.com/swtxsff and @swtxsffchairs *More about the SF&F Area:* With an average of 70+ presenters annually, The Science Fiction and Fantasy Area of the Southwest and Texas Popular Culture and American Culture Association is one of the most dynamic and well attended areas at the conference. Numerous book and article publications have originated from our panels. The Area was founded in 1995 by Prof. Richard Tuerk of the Texas A&M University-Commerce (formerly East Texas State University) and author of /Oz in Perspective/ (McFarland, 2007). The Area is currently chaired by Ximena Gallardo C. of the City University of New York-LaGuardia and co-author of /Alien Woman: The Making of Lt. Ellen Ripley/ (Continuum: 2004); Rikk Mulligan of Longwood University, author of "Zombie Apocalypse: Plague and the End of the World in Popular Culture" (/End of Days/, McFarland 2009); Tamy Burnett of the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, co-editor of /The Literary Angel/ (McFarland, 2010); Brian Cowlishaw of Northeastern State University, author of "No Future Shock Here: /The Jetsons/, Happy Tech, and the Patriarchy" (/The Galaxy is Rated G/, McFarland: 2011); and Susan Fanetti. Though the co-chairs consult on submissions, Ximena and Rikk are primarily responsible for the general organization of the conference panels and coordinate special panels, Tamy coordinates annual special topics related to SFF television, this year including /Supernatural/, /Vampire Diaries/, and /Doctor Who, /Brian reviews and organizes the literature panels and other special topics (this year /Game of Thrones /and/The Hunger Games/), and Susan coordinates the Whedonverse panels (/Buffy/, /Firefly/, /Angel/). Area Co-Chair Names: Tamy Burnett, Brian Cowlishaw, Susan Fanetti, Ximena Gallardo, Rikk Mulligan. Thanks for your attention, Rikk Mulligan Dept. of English and Modern Languages Longwood University ** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgrace2 at uwo.ca Fri Aug 3 22:42:24 2012 From: dgrace2 at uwo.ca (Dominick Grace) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:42:24 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] Total flop? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <75f0ecc066d66.501c53d0@uwo.ca> Don't know dick lol! I thought the original movie sucked anyay, so I had no hopes for this one.... Dom On 08/03/12, pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com wrote: > > > > > The reviews I've seen of the new TOTAL RECALL are far from kind, and the full-page ad for the movie dioesn't quote any -- usually even a bad movie will have endorsements from some obscure newspaper or website. Guess it shows these guys don't know dick about making an sf film. > > --J.J. > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alanelms at aol.com Sat Aug 4 00:34:55 2012 From: alanelms at aol.com (alanelms at aol.com) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 00:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SFRA-L] Total flop? In-Reply-To: <75f0ecc066d66.501c53d0@uwo.ca> References: <75f0ecc066d66.501c53d0@uwo.ca> Message-ID: <8CF4011A149911A-EB0-35E56@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com> The NY Times review of "Total Recall" ended with a clever explanation of the PG Rating: "'Total Recall' is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned). It has action violence, brief nudity and swearing, though more of that is likely to come from Philip K. Dick fans in the audience." -----Original Message----- From: Dominick Grace To: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu Sent: Fri, Aug 3, 2012 7:43 pm Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Total flop? Don't know dick lol! ? I thought the original movie sucked anyay, so I had no hopes for this one.... ? Dom? ? On 08/03/12, pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com wrote: The reviews I've seen of the new TOTAL RECALL are far from kind, and the full-page ad for the movie dioesn't quote any -- usually even a bad movie will have endorsements from some obscure newspaper or website. Guess it shows these guys don't know dick about making an sf film. --J.J. ?_______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From ErlichRD at MUOhio.edu Sat Aug 4 01:36:46 2012 From: ErlichRD at MUOhio.edu (Richard Erlich) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 22:36:46 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] Total flop? "Mixed or average reviews" In-Reply-To: <8CF4011A149911A-EB0-35E56@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com> References: <75f0ecc066d66.501c53d0@uwo.ca> <8CF4011A149911A-EB0-35E56@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 03/08/2012, at 21:34, alanelms at aol.com wrote: > The NY Times review of "Total Recall" ended with a clever explanation > of the PG Rating: "'Total Recall' is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly > cautioned). It has action violence, brief nudity and swearing, though > more of that is likely to come from Philip K. Dick fans in the > audience." So much for my promise not to comment ?. Well, I guess I will go see the flick and see, but: 1. "Metascore" of 44/100 ? Total Flop; not good, but far from a critical disaster. Weirdly, your local newspaper probably has a "Features" (or some such title) section that will report on Monday the weekend grosses for the major movie openings, so those interested ? apparently a fair number of people ? can get a good idea of popularity in a clear, quantitative form. For more detail, IMDb will give running grosses and estimated cost, so you can get at least a ball-park estimate if the film is making money. The accounting gets really, really, really complex (ingenious, devious), but you will be able to figure out if it's a total financial flop. They may take the fun out of things ? it sure ruined the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game! ? but the public resources have taken most of the speculation out of judging critical reception and financial success. The film may flop and be quite good esthetically, or be quite bad and do well with critics and the public: Sorry, Mr. Lincoln, but "You can fool enough of the people enough of the time to make out like a bandit" ? but that's another issue and still (fortunately for traffic on the list) eminently debatable. 2. Fans can be a mixed blessing. I have groused that too much concern for fan sensitivities harmed the LORD OF THE RINGS and HARRY POTTER for civilian viewers: too many episodes included from well-stuffed novels to produce over-stuffed films. At least two people who know about such things have groused that fear of the wrath of aging fan-boys has harmed comic-book adaptation and animation. On the other hand, fans are loyal and reliable and buy the books and comics and (usually) pay to see the films. The fan/"franchise" relationship can get intimate, and such intimacy is at least double-edged. (People don't only hurt the ones we love, but they are the most likely victims.) Rich ___________________________________________ Richard Erlich Professor Emeritus in English Port Hueneme, CA Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to piss us off. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ehull at harpercollege.edu Sat Aug 4 03:19:36 2012 From: ehull at harpercollege.edu (Elizabeth Hull) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 07:19:36 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] Total flop? "Mixed or average reviews" In-Reply-To: References: <75f0ecc066d66.501c53d0@uwo.ca> <8CF4011A149911A-EB0-35E56@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com>, Message-ID: <50A6FD88ACB4EB43AC90722843BB5961022ABF@ADMMBXS1.admdom.harpercollege.edu> I recall when I attended a staged script reading of the adaptation of Joe Haldeman's Forever War in Chicago. There was open seating, but as will happen in a small venue, we sorted ourselves out almost exclusively with "theater" people on one side of the middle aisle and Fans on the other. (I sat with my fans friends instead of among my regular fellow play junkie/critic acquaintances.) At the critique afterward, the fans complained that the script was too talky and explanatory, but the mundanes protested that they couldn't have grasped most of it without the explanation; in fact, they would have appreciated more of the "You see, Mandella" kind of dialogue to clarify for them what had changed in that society. And of course, the adaptation had omitted much of the novel to focus only on the part where Mandella returns to find that straight people are a minority, changing it thematically quite drastically from an anti-war vehicle to a pro-gay shocker (this was back in the late 70's or early 80's as I recall). I've also recently rescreened the movie of O'Neill's Desire under the Elms for a mini-class I'm planning to teach in September for Harper's Lifelong Learning Institute, the one with Sophia Loren. The script is quite re-envisioned, not just changing Abby from a New England farm girl to Anna, an Italian immigrant, but also moving a lot of the action around. (It's not ideal from the standpoint of teaching the play, but I believe it's the only film version of the play ever made, so I'm going to use it.) In spite of the changes, it's pretty faithful to O'Neill's spirit, and I realize once again that different media have different intrinsic demands, as well as ones made for a potential wider audience and/or a profit motive. Your points about the variety of measures of succcess are right on. Think of what was done to Heinlein's Starship Troopers. I'm glad Bob didn't live to see it, and I heard that Ginnie was outraged by it. In that case, the changes didn't help bring the material to a wider audience, please the criitcs, or even make it a commercial success. I kept wondering how the bugs could have evolved on their apparent home planet, when we never saw any vegetation that they might have eaten. Betty Hull ________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] on behalf of Richard Erlich [ErlichRD at MUOhio.edu] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 12:36 AM To: alanelms at aol.com Cc: ListServ SFRA Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Total flop? "Mixed or average reviews" On 03/08/2012, at 21:34, alanelms at aol.com wrote: The NY Times review of "Total Recall" ended with a clever explanation of the PG Rating: "'Total Recall' is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned). It has action violence, brief nudity and swearing, though more of that is likely to come from Philip K. Dick fans in the audience." So much for my promise not to comment ?. Well, I guess I will go see the flick and see, but: 1. "Metascore" of 44/100 ? Total Flop; not good, but far from a critical disaster. Weirdly, your local newspaper probably has a "Features" (or some such title) section that will report on Monday the weekend grosses for the major movie openings, so those interested ? apparently a fair number of people ? can get a good idea of popularity in a clear, quantitative form. For more detail, IMDb will give running grosses and estimated cost, so you can get at least a ball-park estimate if the film is making money. The accounting gets really, really, really complex (ingenious, devious), but you will be able to figure out if it's a total financial flop. They may take the fun out of things ? it sure ruined the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game! ? but the public resources have taken most of the speculation out of judging critical reception and financial success. The film may flop and be quite good esthetically, or be quite bad and do well with critics and the public: Sorry, Mr. Lincoln, but "You can fool enough of the people enough of the time to make out like a bandit" ? but that's another issue and still (fortunately for traffic on the list) eminently debatable. 2. Fans can be a mixed blessing. I have groused that too much concern for fan sensitivities harmed the LORD OF THE RINGS and HARRY POTTER for civilian viewers: too many episodes included from well-stuffed novels to produce over-stuffed films. At least two people who know about such things have groused that fear of the wrath of aging fan-boys has harmed comic-book adaptation and animation. On the other hand, fans are loyal and reliable and buy the books and comics and (usually) pay to see the films. The fan/"franchise" relationship can get intimate, and such intimacy is at least double-edged. (People don't only hurt the ones we love, but they are the most likely victims.) Rich ___________________________________________ Richard Erlich Professor Emeritus in English Port Hueneme, CA Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to piss us off. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfred.guy at yale.edu Sat Aug 4 07:28:58 2012 From: alfred.guy at yale.edu (Guy, Alfred) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 11:28:58 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] Help with Fanzine: Short Form Message-ID: <9F5EC3AB499C024B918E72ADACA890050D695021@x10-mbx3.yu.yale.edu> Dear Colleagues: I'm trying to track down an essay that appeared in the June 1989 issue of the journal _Short Form_, which isfdb describes as a fanzine. Does anyone have this or know where I can track it down--either online or in print? More specifically, I'm looking for Orson Scott Card's introduction of the Connie Willis story "All My Darling Daughters." 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Dale Knickerbocker Professor of Hispanic Studies Department of Foreign Languages & Literatures East Carolina University Greenville, NC 27858 Tel (252) 328-6521; Fax (252) 3286233 knickerbockerd at ecu.edu Cierra los ojos. Todo lo que ves, es mio. ________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] on behalf of Dominick Grace [dgrace2 at uwo.ca] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 10:42 PM To: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Total flop? Don't know dick lol! I thought the original movie sucked anyay, so I had no hopes for this one.... Dom On 08/03/12, pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com wrote: The reviews I've seen of the new TOTAL RECALL are far from kind, and the full-page ad for the movie dioesn't quote any -- usually even a bad movie will have endorsements from some obscure newspaper or website. Guess it shows these guys don't know dick about making an sf film. --J.J. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blbousfi at syr.edu Sat Aug 4 12:24:15 2012 From: blbousfi at syr.edu (Brenda Wendy Lee Bousfield) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:24:15 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] Help with Fanzine: Short Form In-Reply-To: <9F5EC3AB499C024B918E72ADACA890050D695021@x10-mbx3.yu.yale.edu> References: <9F5EC3AB499C024B918E72ADACA890050D695021@x10-mbx3.yu.yale.edu> Message-ID: Alfie: I did a serial search in WorldCat, a shared catalog database used by most libraries in the U.S. and Canada. No luck. That doesn't necessarily mean that no U.S. library holds SHORT FORM. Some libraries with significant sf collections might not have fully cataloged them. Wendy Bousfield ________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu] on behalf of Guy, Alfred [alfred.guy at yale.edu] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 7:28 AM To: sfra Subject: [SFRA-L] Help with Fanzine: Short Form Dear Colleagues: I'm trying to track down an essay that appeared in the June 1989 issue of the journal _Short Form_, which isfdb describes as a fanzine. Does anyone have this or know where I can track it down--either online or in print? More specifically, I'm looking for Orson Scott Card's introduction of the Connie Willis story "All My Darling Daughters." Card refers to his essay later, when including the Willis story in his anthology _Future on Fire_. But I'm trying to get the original piece he wrote. Much thanks for any leads! And I hope you're each enjoying a wonderful summer. -Alfie Guy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dale Knickerbocker Professor of Hispanic Studies Department of Foreign Languages & Literatures East Carolina University Greenville, NC 27858 Tel (252) 328-6521; Fax (252) 3286233 knickerbockerd at ecu.edu Cierra los ojos. Todo lo que ves, es mio. ------------------------------------------------------------ From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] on behalf of Dominick Grace [dgrace2 at uwo.ca] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 10:42 PM To: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Total flop? Don't know dick lol! I thought the original movie sucked anyay, so I had no hopes for this one.... Dom On 08/03/12, pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com wrote:The reviews I've seen of the new TOTAL RECALL are far from kind, and the full-page ad for the movie dioesn't quote any -- usually even a bad movie will have endorsements from some obscure newspaper or website. Guess it shows these guys don't know dick about making an sf film. --J.J. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jgunn at ku.edu Sat Aug 4 13:14:42 2012 From: jgunn at ku.edu (Gunn, James E.) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 17:14:42 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] Help with Fanzine: Short Form In-Reply-To: References: <9F5EC3AB499C024B918E72ADACA890050D695021@x10-mbx3.yu.yale.edu>, Message-ID: <3125014D1A4A7C4391EC2803965DBA776D5C86FF@EXCH10-MBX-03.home.ku.edu> Check out Scott's website--Hatrack River. You can write him about Short Form. Jim ________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] on behalf of Brenda Wendy Lee Bousfield [blbousfi at syr.edu] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:24 AM To: Guy, Alfred; sfra Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Help with Fanzine: Short Form Alfie: I did a serial search in WorldCat, a shared catalog database used by most libraries in the U.S. and Canada. No luck. That doesn't necessarily mean that no U.S. library holds SHORT FORM. Some libraries with significant sf collections might not have fully cataloged them. Wendy Bousfield ________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu] on behalf of Guy, Alfred [alfred.guy at yale.edu] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 7:28 AM To: sfra Subject: [SFRA-L] Help with Fanzine: Short Form Dear Colleagues: I'm trying to track down an essay that appeared in the June 1989 issue of the journal _Short Form_, which isfdb describes as a fanzine. Does anyone have this or know where I can track it down--either online or in print? More specifically, I'm looking for Orson Scott Card's introduction of the Connie Willis story "All My Darling Daughters." Card refers to his essay later, when including the Willis story in his anthology _Future on Fire_. But I'm trying to get the original piece he wrote. Much thanks for any leads! 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All the best, Leimar Garcia-Siino > From: sfra-l-request at wiz.cath.vt.edu > Subject: SFRA-L Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6 > To: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 12:00:25 -0400 > > Send SFRA-L mailing list submissions to > sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sfra-l-request at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sfra-l-owner at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of SFRA-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Help with Fanzine: Short Form (Guy, Alfred) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 11:28:58 +0000 > From: "Guy, Alfred" > To: sfra > Subject: [SFRA-L] Help with Fanzine: Short Form > Message-ID: > <9F5EC3AB499C024B918E72ADACA890050D695021 at x10-mbx3.yu.yale.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Colleagues: > > I'm trying to track down an essay that appeared in the June 1989 issue of the journal _Short Form_, which isfdb describes as a fanzine. Does anyone have this or know where I can track it down--either online or in print? > > More specifically, I'm looking for Orson Scott Card's introduction of the Connie Willis story "All My Darling Daughters." Card refers to his essay later, when including the Willis story in his anthology _Future on Fire_. But I'm trying to get the original piece he wrote. > > Much thanks for any leads! 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On 04/08/2012, at 10:29, pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com wrote: > Ah, but if it doesn't make any sense it must be a masterpiece.... like PROMETHEUS. > > --J.J. > -----Original Message----- > From: Knickerbocker, Dale [mailto:KNICKERBOCKERD at ecu.edu] > Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:09 PM > To: 'Dominick Grace', sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Total flop? > > Saw it yday. It would be hard to fit more gunfire, explosions, running, and falling through/off things into 2 hours. I was numbed by it after the first hour. Probably a good thing it wasn't plot- or dialogue-driven, that would have required acting skills. > > Dale Knickerbocker > Professor of Hispanic Studies > Department of Foreign Languages & Literatures > East Carolina University > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hope this is helpful, Lewis On 8/4/2012 2:28 PM, Leimar Garcia-Siino wrote: > Dear Alfred Guy, > > A search of the University of Liverpool's Special SF Collection > reveals that they hold one issue of the fanzine, although I have an > inkling that it might not be the one you're looking for (June 1989). > The WorldCat (worldcat.org) informs that "[they] cannot find libraries > in the United Kingdom that have the item [Short Form, from Hatrack > River Publications]" (which is where I am), but that there are copies > in Ohio, Utah, Texas and California. > > I don't know how helpful this information is, if at all. > > All the best, > > Leimar Garcia-Siino > > > From: sfra-l-request at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > Subject: SFRA-L Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6 > > To: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 12:00:25 -0400 > > > > Send SFRA-L mailing list submissions to > > sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > sfra-l-request at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > sfra-l-owner at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of SFRA-L digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Help with Fanzine: Short Form (Guy, Alfred) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 11:28:58 +0000 > > From: "Guy, Alfred" > > To: sfra > > Subject: [SFRA-L] Help with Fanzine: Short Form > > Message-ID: > > <9F5EC3AB499C024B918E72ADACA890050D695021 at x10-mbx3.yu.yale.edu> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Dear Colleagues: > > > > I'm trying to track down an essay that appeared in the June 1989 > issue of the journal _Short Form_, which isfdb describes as a fanzine. > Does anyone have this or know where I can track it down--either online > or in print? > > > > More specifically, I'm looking for Orson Scott Card's introduction > of the Connie Willis story "All My Darling Daughters." Card refers to > his essay later, when including the Willis story in his anthology > _Future on Fire_. But I'm trying to get the original piece he wrote. > > > > Much thanks for any leads! 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Pawel From jc4u931 at hotmail.com Sat Aug 4 15:00:31 2012 From: jc4u931 at hotmail.com (Leimar Garcia-Siino) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 20:00:31 +0100 Subject: [SFRA-L] Help with Fanzine: Short Form (Guy, Alfred) (Additional Info) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Alfred Guy, Searching the WorldCat again, under the location of United States, reveals the Bringam Young University, and Harry Ransom Humanities Research Center in the University of Texas, the University of California, Riverside, and The University of Dayton all have copies. [http://www.worldcat.org/title/short-form/oclc/173716305&referer=brief_results] Here's links to each of those university's library websites where they do appear to have all issues (winter 87-sept 90) of the fanzine you're looking for: BYU - http://catalog.lib.byu.edu/uhtbin/cgisirsi/ev84yneWQt/LEE/97350107/9 Uni of Texas - http://catalog.lib.utexas.edu/search/?searchscope=18&searchtype=o&searcharg=173716305 Uni of California - http://scotty.ucr.edu/search/o22161580 (only 87-89, apparently) Uni of Dayton - http://flyers.udayton.edu/search/o22161580 Contacting Hatrack River Publications, however, may perhaps prove more fruitful. Hope this helps :) Best, Leimar Garcia-Siino -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin.semmel at gmail.com Sun Aug 5 00:19:47 2012 From: justin.semmel at gmail.com (Justin Semmel) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:19:47 +1000 Subject: [SFRA-L] Fw: Happy find! Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Justin Semmel To: sfra-l list Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:48 AM Subject: Happy find! Just found out through a friend that Arkady and Boris Strugatsky's Prisoners of Power has been made into the movies Inhabited Island, and Inhabited Island Battle. Can't wait to check it out! Cheers, Justin Semmel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rob.latham at ucr.edu Sun Aug 5 18:45:33 2012 From: rob.latham at ucr.edu (Rob Latham) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 15:45:33 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] CFP: 2013 Eaton/SFRA Conference Message-ID: It's six weeks to the submissions deadline, so I'm reposting this CFP. The conference website is here: http://eatonconference.ucr.edu/ Call for Papers The 2013 Joint Eaton/SFRA Conference Science Fiction Media April 10-14, 2013 Riverside Marriott Hotel Riverside, California This conference?cosponsored by the Eaton Collection of Science Fiction and Fantasy (UC Riverside) and the Science Fiction Research Association ?will examine science fiction in multiple media. The past several decades have witnessed an explosion in SF texts across the media landscape, from film and TV to comics and digital games. We are interested in papers that explore SF as a multimedia phenomenon, whether focusing on popular mass media, such as Hollywood blockbusters, or on niche and subcultural forms of expression, such as MUDs and vidding. We invite paper and panel proposals that focus on all forms of SF, including prose fiction, and that address (but are not limited to) the following topics: Mainstream Hollywood vs. Global SF Cinema SF Comics and Manga SF Anime and Animation SF on the Internet and the World Wide Web Multimedia ?dispersed? SF narratives Fandom, Cosplay, Mashups, and Remixing Broadcast and Cable SF Television SF Videogames World?s Fairs, Theme Parks, and other ?Material? SF Media Short-form SF film Afrofuturism SF and/in Music SF Idiom and Imagery in Advertising Webisodes and TV Games SF Art and Illustration The conference will also feature the fourth Science Fiction Studies Symposium on the topic of ?SF Media(tions),? with speakers Mark Bould, Istvan Csicsery-Ronay, Jr., and Vivian Sobchack. Keynote speakers and special guests will be announced as they are confirmed; see the conference website at for periodic updates. Conference sessions will be held at the newly remodeled and centrally located Riverside Marriott Hotel, with rooms at a reduced conference rate ($109). For more about the hotel, see their website at . A block of rooms will also be available at a discount ($139) at the historic Mission Inn Hotel and Spa two blocks from the Marriott: . Rooms in both hotels are limited and will be available on a first- come, first-served basis. Abstracts of 500 words (for papers of 20-minutes in length) should be submitted by September 14, 2012. We also welcome panel proposals gathering three papers on a cohesive topic. Send electronic submissions to conference co-chair Melissa Conway at with the subject heading: EATON/SFRA CONFERENCE PROPOSAL. Please include a brief bio with your abstract and indicate whether your presentation would require A/V. Participants will be informed by December 1 if their proposals have been accepted. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfred.guy at yale.edu Sun Aug 5 20:38:25 2012 From: alfred.guy at yale.edu (Guy, Alfred) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 00:38:25 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] Help with Fanzine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9F5EC3AB499C024B918E72ADACA890050D695185@x10-mbx3.yu.yale.edu> Dear Friends: I am truly humbled by your helpfulness! I used the contact info on Hatrack but I will also be checking the WorldCat results. This is a database I haven't used much so I'm especially grateful to develop it as a resource for future searches. Thanks for your fast and thoughtful attention! -Alfred From: Leimar Garcia-Siino > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 20:00:31 +0100 To: > Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Help with Fanzine: Short Form (Guy, Alfred) (Additional Info) Dear Alfred Guy, Searching the WorldCat again, under the location of United States, reveals the Bringam Young University, and Harry Ransom Humanities Research Center in the University of Texas, the University of California, Riverside, and The University of Dayton all have copies. [http://www.worldcat.org/title/short-form/oclc/173716305&referer=brief_results] Here's links to each of those university's library websites where they do appear to have all issues (winter 87-sept 90) of the fanzine you're looking for: BYU - http://catalog.lib.byu.edu/uhtbin/cgisirsi/ev84yneWQt/LEE/97350107/9 Uni of Texas - http://catalog.lib.utexas.edu/search/?searchscope=18&searchtype=o&searcharg=173716305 Uni of California - http://scotty.ucr.edu/search/o22161580 (only 87-89, apparently) Uni of Dayton - http://flyers.udayton.edu/search/o22161580 Contacting Hatrack River Publications, however, may perhaps prove more fruitful. Hope this helps :) Best, Leimar Garcia-Siino _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slonczewski at kenyon.edu Mon Aug 6 21:47:47 2012 From: slonczewski at kenyon.edu (Joan Slonczewski) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 21:47:47 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] Fred Pohl panel at Chicon Message-ID: If you're going to Chicon, would you serve on a panel about the works of Fred Pohl? Bob Silverberg and I are on the panel, 9:00AM Saturday. We'd love to have additional perspectives. Joan L. Slonczewski Professor of Biology Higley Hall, 202 N. College Drive Kenyon College Gambier, OH 43022 http://biology.kenyon.edu/slonc/slonc.htm slonczewski at kenyon.edu Phone: 740-427-5397 From jgunn at ku.edu Mon Aug 6 22:08:19 2012 From: jgunn at ku.edu (Gunn, James E.) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 02:08:19 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] Fred Pohl panel at Chicon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3125014D1A4A7C4391EC2803965DBA776D5CACDD@EXCH10-MBX-03.home.ku.edu> I wish I could be there; I have lots of Fred Pohl stories---as agent, as editor, as author, as writer-in-residence, and as a friend :-). Jim ________________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] on behalf of Joan Slonczewski [slonczewski at kenyon.edu] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:47 PM To: SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: [SFRA-L] Fred Pohl panel at Chicon If you're going to Chicon, would you serve on a panel about the works of Fred Pohl? Bob Silverberg and I are on the panel, 9:00AM Saturday. We'd love to have additional perspectives. Joan L. Slonczewski Professor of Biology Higley Hall, 202 N. College Drive Kenyon College Gambier, OH 43022 http://biology.kenyon.edu/slonc/slonc.htm slonczewski at kenyon.edu Phone: 740-427-5397 _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From shalabare at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 01:07:49 2012 From: shalabare at gmail.com (Sha LaBare) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:07:49 -0600 Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? Message-ID: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> Dear Hivemind, A friend of mine is considering using Dozois's "Supermen" collection for a comp class he's teaching. He asked me for a rec re: "great articles that introduce and discuss Posthumanism?" I am feeling quite dumb because I can't think of anything to suggest; can anyone help me out here, please? remain in light, Sha From gregconley at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 01:32:46 2012 From: gregconley at gmail.com (Greg Conley) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 01:32:46 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, one of my favorite posthuman works is Aaron Diaz's *Dresden Codak*. And the author wrote a tongue-in-cheek essay called "Enough is Enough: A Thinking Ape's Critique of Trans-Simianism." Here's the link: http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/2181/ On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Sha LaBare wrote: > Dear Hivemind, > A friend of mine is considering using Dozois's "Supermen" collection for a > comp class he's teaching. He asked me for a rec re: "great articles that > introduce and discuss Posthumanism?" I am feeling quite dumb because I > can't think of anything to suggest; can anyone help me out here, please? > remain in light, > Sha > ______________________________**_________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/**mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ko.omry at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 03:10:31 2012 From: ko.omry at gmail.com (Keren Omry) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 10:10:31 +0300 Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> Message-ID: N. Katherine Hayles' *How We Became Posthuman* is an obvious choice. I also recommend Anne Balsamo's *Technologies of the Gendered Body* and Sherryl Vint's *Bodies of Tomorrow.* * * Enjoy, Keren On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Sha LaBare wrote: > Dear Hivemind, > A friend of mine is considering using Dozois's "Supermen" collection for a > comp class he's teaching. He asked me for a rec re: "great articles that > introduce and discuss Posthumanism?" I am feeling quite dumb because I > can't think of anything to suggest; can anyone help me out here, please? > remain in light, > Sha > ______________________________**_________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/**mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.lukes at nyu.edu Tue Aug 7 07:09:29 2012 From: daniel.lukes at nyu.edu (Daniel Lukes) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 07:09:29 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> Message-ID: Carey Wolfe: What Is Posthumanism? On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Keren Omry wrote: > N. Katherine Hayles' How We Became Posthuman is an obvious choice. I also > recommend Anne Balsamo's Technologies of the Gendered Body and Sherryl > Vint's Bodies of Tomorrow. > > Enjoy, > Keren > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Sha LaBare wrote: >> >> Dear Hivemind, >> A friend of mine is considering using Dozois's "Supermen" collection for a >> comp class he's teaching. He asked me for a rec re: "great articles that >> introduce and discuss Posthumanism?" I am feeling quite dumb because I >> can't think of anything to suggest; can anyone help me out here, please? >> remain in light, >> Sha >> _______________________________________________ >> SFRA-L mailing list >> SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > From ddavis at gdn.edu Tue Aug 7 08:10:28 2012 From: ddavis at gdn.edu (Davis, Doug) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 08:10:28 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> Message-ID: Donna Haraway's Cyborg Manifesto from Simians, Cyborgs and Women. Doug Davis, Ph.D. Editor, SFRA Review Associate Professor of English Division of Humanities Gordon College 419 College Drive Barnesville, GA 30204 ddavis at gdn.edu (678) 359 5817 (office) (678) 359 5140 (fax) On Aug 7, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Daniel Lukes > wrote: Carey Wolfe: What Is Posthumanism? On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Keren Omry > wrote: N. Katherine Hayles' How We Became Posthuman is an obvious choice. I also recommend Anne Balsamo's Technologies of the Gendered Body and Sherryl Vint's Bodies of Tomorrow. Enjoy, Keren On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Sha LaBare > wrote: Dear Hivemind, A friend of mine is considering using Dozois's "Supermen" collection for a comp class he's teaching. He asked me for a rec re: "great articles that introduce and discuss Posthumanism?" I am feeling quite dumb because I can't think of anything to suggest; can anyone help me out here, please? remain in light, Sha _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From Grahammurphy at trentu.ca Tue Aug 7 07:57:48 2012 From: Grahammurphy at trentu.ca (Graham Murphy) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 07:57:48 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? Message-ID: <5020CA7C020000A100029DC3@trentmail.trentu.ca> You might want to try Neil Badmington's edited collection Posthumanism as there are different ways to attack this topic (e.g. cyborg, human-animal studies, etc.). Take care, Graham J. Murphy "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." Stanislaw Lem ---------------------- Dr. Graham J. Murphy Cultural Studies Department/ Department of English Trent University >>> Sha LaBare 08/07/12 01:15 AM >>> Dear Hivemind, A friend of mine is considering using Dozois's "Supermen" collection for a comp class he's teaching. He asked me for a rec re: "great articles that introduce and discuss Posthumanism?" I am feeling quite dumb because I can't think of anything to suggest; can anyone help me out here, please? remain in light, Sha _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From lauramwiebe at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 08:37:22 2012 From: lauramwiebe at gmail.com (Laura Wiebe) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 05:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1344343042.44206.YahooMailNeo@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Sha, In terms of shorter pieces, Veronica Hollinger's "Posthumanism and Cyborg Theory" in The Routledge Companion to Science Fiction might be useful. There is also a 2003 issue of Cultural Critique (53.1) dedicated to posthumanism. Best, Laura Laura Wiebe PhD Candidate, Department of English and Cultural Studies McMaster University lauramwiebe at gmail.com ________________________________ From: Sha LaBare To: "sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu" ; "iafa-l at sigcis.org" Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:07:49 AM Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? Dear Hivemind, A friend of mine is considering using Dozois's "Supermen" collection for a comp class he's teaching.? He asked me for a rec re: "great articles that introduce and discuss Posthumanism?"? I am feeling quite dumb because I can't think of anything to suggest; can anyone help me out here, please? remain in light, Sha _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ximena_gallardo_c at yahoo.com Mon Aug 6 16:23:13 2012 From: ximena_gallardo_c at yahoo.com (Ximena Gallardo) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 13:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SFRA-L] CFP: Science Fiction and Fantasy SW/TX PCA/ACA (12/1/12; 2/13-16/2013) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1344284593.54371.YahooMailNeo@web125606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> CFP: Science Fiction and FantasySW/TX PCA/ACA (12/1/12; 2/13-16/2013) Join us for the 34rd Annual Southwest/Texas Popular Culture and American Culture Associations Conference, February 13-16, 2013 at the Hyatt Regency in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The Science Fiction and Fantasy Area chairs of the Southwest/Texas Popular Culture/American Culture Associations (www.swtxpca.org) invite paper or panel proposals on any aspect of science fiction in print, film, or other media. Proposal submission deadline: November 16, 2012 ? Any and all topics will be considered. Past presentations have covered a variety of topics including British sci-fi TV, Fan Studies, Race, gender, sexuality, and socio-economic class, science fiction and fantasy and pedagogy, adaptation and a variety of texts from the Harry Potter books to the film Splice to Mystery Science Theater 3000. Submit 250-word paper or 500 word panel proposals to the 2013 SWTX Presenter Database. Choose the area ?Science Fiction & Fantasy ? General.? This online submission database will be available after September 15. If you are experiencing difficulties with the website, please email your proposal to the address listed below.) Direct questions to: Ximena Gallardo, ximena_gallardo_c at yahoo.com or Rikk Mulligan, rikk.mulligan at gmail.com Early Bird Registration Deadline is December 31, 2012. Conference hotel: Hyatt Regency Albuquerque 330 Tijeras Albuquerque, NM 87102 Phone: 1.505.842.1234 Fax: 1.505.766.6710 Conference Rate Reservations can be made through www.swtxpca.org For more details on the conference, please visit the Southwest/Texas Popular Culture/American Culture Association: www.swtxpca.org. Follow us on Facebook & Twitter: www.facebook.com/swtxsff and @swtxsffchairs More about the SF&F Area: With an average of 70+ presenters annually, The Science Fiction and Fantasy Area of the Southwest and Texas Popular Culture and American Culture Association is one of the most dynamic and well attended areas at the conference. Numerous book and article publications have originated from our panels. The Area was founded in 1995 by Prof. Richard Tuerk of the Texas A&M University-Commerce (formerly East Texas State University) and author of Oz in Perspective (McFarland, 2007). The Area is currently chaired by Ximena Gallardo C. of the City University of New York-LaGuardia and co-author of Alien Woman: The Making of Lt. Ellen Ripley (Continuum: 2004); Rikk Mulligan of Longwood University, author of ?Zombie Apocalypse: Plague and the End of the World in Popular Culture? (End of Days, McFarland 2009); Tamy Burnett of the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, co-editor of The Literary Angel (McFarland, 2010); Brian Cowlishaw of Northeastern State University, author of "No Future Shock Here: The Jetsons, Happy Tech, and the Patriarchy" (The Galaxy is Rated G, McFarland: 2011); and Susan Fanetti. Though the co-chairs consult on submissions, Ximena and Rikk are primarily responsible for the general organization of the conference panels and coordinate special panels, Tamy coordinates annual special topics related to SFF television, this year including Supernatural, Vampire Diaries, and Doctor Who, Brian reviews and organizes the literature panels and other special topics (this year Game of Thrones andThe Hunger Games), and Susan coordinates the Whedonverse panels (Buffy, Firefly, Angel). Area Co-Chair Names: Tamy Burnett, Brian Cowlishaw, Susan Fanetti, Ximena Gallardo, Rikk Mulligan. ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alanelms at aol.com Tue Aug 7 15:42:46 2012 From: alanelms at aol.com (alanelms at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 15:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CF42EBF44AEA40-12FC-45CBF@webmail-m135.sysops.aol.com> The introduction to James Patrick Kelly & John Kessel's new anthology, "Digital Raptures: The Singularity Anthology," makes some useful distinctions between posthumanism and related concepts. The anthology itself includes some key fiction and nonfiction treatments of those concepts. Kate Hayles's book "How We Became Posthuman" is a superb examination of posthumanism and its history, though her crititcal language would be heavy going for most undergrads. Several years ago I wrote a book review that summarized her main arguments for the Journal of the History of the Behavioral Sciences; the review is on my website at http://starcraving.com/?p=253 . Alan -----Original Message----- From: Sha LaBare To: sfra-l ; iafa-l Sent: Mon, Aug 6, 2012 10:15 pm Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? Dear Hivemind, A friend of mine is considering using Dozois's "Supermen" collection for a comp class he's teaching. He asked me for a rec re: "great articles that introduce and discuss Posthumanism?" I am feeling quite dumb because I can't think of anything to suggest; can anyone help me out here, please? remain in light, Sha _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From rcalvink at ic.sunysb.edu Thu Aug 9 11:58:25 2012 From: rcalvink at ic.sunysb.edu (Ritchie Calvin) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 11:58:25 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] 2013 SFRA Award committees Message-ID: <7320e7b3231f.5023a5e1@ic.sunysb.edu> Hello all: We have finally managed to complete all of the committees for next year's SFRA awards. They are as follows: ? Pilgrim Award (for life time contributions to SF/F studies): Brian Attebery (c); Roger Luckhurst, Lisa Yaszek. ? Pioneer Award (for outstanding SF studies critical essay of the year): Neil Easterbrook (c); Keren Omry, Amy Ransom. ? Thomas D. Clareson Award for Distinguished Service: Joan Gordon (c); Alan Elms, Ed Carmien. ? Mary Kay Bray Award (for the best essay, interview, or extended review in the past year?s SFRA Review): Sharon Sharp (c); Joan Haran, T. S. Miller. ? Student Essay Award (for best student paper presented at the previous year?s SFRA conference (in this case, Detroit)): James Thrall (c), Sonja Fritzsche, Eric Otto. I encourage ALL students who presented papers at Detroit to submit your papers for consideration. You can send them to committee chair James Thrall at In the near future, you will doubtless hear, as well, from the Pioneer Committee, asking for suggestions for nominations for the Pioneer Award. They will, of course, look at all the obvious sources. However, the field has grown so large and diffuse, and really good critical works are appearing all over the place. So, if you've seen a good sf/f critical work in some unlikely place, please do send a suggestion to the Pioneer Committee. You can contact the Pioneer Committee chair at Thanks. Ritch Calvin Department of Cultural Analysis and Theory Humanities 2119 SUNY Stony Brook Program Advisor, Women's and Gender Studies Chair, A&S Undergraduate Curriculum Committee President, SFRA 631-632-7607 rcalvink at ic.sunysb.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Dave.Samuelson at csulb.edu Tue Aug 7 14:07:52 2012 From: Dave.Samuelson at csulb.edu (Dave Samuelson) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 18:07:52 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] [IAFA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: <1344343042.44206.YahooMailNeo@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com>, <1344343042.44206.YahooMailNeo@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bodies of Tomorrow by Sheryl Vint is a good place to start. Dave Samuelson ________________________________ From: iafa-l-bounces at sigcis.org [iafa-l-bounces at sigcis.org] on behalf of Laura Wiebe [lauramwiebe at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:37 AM To: Sha LaBare; sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu; iafa-l at sigcis.org Subject: Re: [IAFA-L] [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? Dear Sha, In terms of shorter pieces, Veronica Hollinger's "Posthumanism and Cyborg Theory" in The Routledge Companion to Science Fiction might be useful. There is also a 2003 issue of Cultural Critique (53.1) dedicated to posthumanism. Best, Laura Laura Wiebe PhD Candidate, Department of English and Cultural Studies McMaster University lauramwiebe at gmail.com ________________________________ From: Sha LaBare To: "sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu" ; "iafa-l at sigcis.org" Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:07:49 AM Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? Dear Hivemind, A friend of mine is considering using Dozois's "Supermen" collection for a comp class he's teaching. He asked me for a rec re: "great articles that introduce and discuss Posthumanism?" I am feeling quite dumb because I can't think of anything to suggest; can anyone help me out here, please? remain in light, Sha _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arduncan at frostburg.edu Tue Aug 7 15:16:49 2012 From: arduncan at frostburg.edu (Andrew R Duncan) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 19:16:49 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] [IAFA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> Message-ID: If your friend wants "great articles that introduce and discuss Posthumanism" for an across-the-curriculum audience, he's likely looking for science articles and not lit-crit essays. On the science end, my students enjoy Marvin Minksy's "Will Robots Inherit the Earth?," which is in Heather Masri's anthology Science Fiction: Stories and Contexts. It's also at this URL: http://web.media.mit.edu/~minsky/papers/sciam.inherit.html Hope this helps. -- Andy Andy Duncan Assistant Professor Department of English 313-B Dunkle Hall Frostburg State University (301) 687-4241 arduncan at frostburg.edu ________________________________________ From: iafa-l-bounces at sigcis.org [iafa-l-bounces at sigcis.org] on behalf of Sha LaBare [shalabare at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:07 AM To: sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu; iafa-l at sigcis.org Subject: [IAFA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? Dear Hivemind, A friend of mine is considering using Dozois's "Supermen" collection for a comp class he's teaching. He asked me for a rec re: "great articles that introduce and discuss Posthumanism?" I am feeling quite dumb because I can't think of anything to suggest; can anyone help me out here, please? remain in light, Sha _______________________________________________ IAFA-L mailing list IAFA-L at sigcis.org http://sigcis.org/mailman/listinfo/iafa-l From rockwood at bloomu.edu Thu Aug 9 12:47:08 2012 From: rockwood at bloomu.edu (Rockwood, Bruce L) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:47:08 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] 2013 SFRA Award committees In-Reply-To: <7320e7b3231f.5023a5e1@ic.sunysb.edu> References: <7320e7b3231f.5023a5e1@ic.sunysb.edu> Message-ID: <98279E855C7F6042A0E6258C79D506EE0724EE19@EXCHMB2.buad.bloomu.edu> Just to update my records for mailing all SFRA documents, we are moving to Maine and permanently changed out address as of August 10, 2012: Bruce and Susan Rockwood P.O. Box 682 175 Elm Street Damariscotta, Maine 04543 Please let SF Studies, Extrapolation, and Foundation and NY Review of SF know our address change. My university email continues for 90 days, but we should change our email of record to our home account now for the next edition of the membership list: clan.rockwood at gmail.com Take care and hope to get to the next meeting once we are settled. I sent 36 boxes of books and files to the carriage house in our new home, will take a while to sort through it all! ________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu] on behalf of Ritchie Calvin [rcalvink at ic.sunysb.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:58 AM To: SFRA-L Subject: [SFRA-L] 2013 SFRA Award committees Hello all: We have finally managed to complete all of the committees for next year's SFRA awards. They are as follows: ? Pilgrim Award (for life time contributions to SF/F studies): Brian Attebery (c); Roger Luckhurst, Lisa Yaszek. ? Pioneer Award (for outstanding SF studies critical essay of the year): Neil Easterbrook (c); Keren Omry, Amy Ransom. ? Thomas D. Clareson Award for Distinguished Service: Joan Gordon (c); Alan Elms, Ed Carmien. ? Mary Kay Bray Award (for the best essay, interview, or extended review in the past year?s SFRA Review): Sharon Sharp (c); Joan Haran, T. S. Miller. ? Student Essay Award (for best student paper presented at the previous year?s SFRA conference (in this case, Detroit)): James Thrall (c), Sonja Fritzsche, Eric Otto. I encourage ALL students who presented papers at Detroit to submit your papers for consideration. You can send them to committee chair James Thrall at In the near future, you will doubtless hear, as well, from the Pioneer Committee, asking for suggestions for nominations for the Pioneer Award. They will, of course, look at all the obvious sources. However, the field has grown so large and diffuse, and really good critical works are appearing all over the place. So, if you've seen a good sf/f critical work in some unlikely place, please do send a suggestion to the Pioneer Committee. You can contact the Pioneer Committee chair at Thanks. Ritch Calvin Department of Cultural Analysis and Theory Humanities 2119 SUNY Stony Brook Program Advisor, Women's and Gender Studies Chair, A&S Undergraduate Curriculum Committee President, SFRA 631-632-7607 rcalvink at ic.sunysb.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LevyM at uwstout.edu Thu Aug 9 13:20:54 2012 From: LevyM at uwstout.edu (Levy, Michael) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 17:20:54 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] [IAFA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com>, <1344343042.44206.YahooMailNeo@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: <6C3B19DC3F72CB4C85AC44E70BA15EA0263C9223@gumby.uwstout.edu> If this is a Freshman Comp class, most of the students (if they're anything like my freshmen) will bounce off Sherryl's book, good as it is. Veronica's piece might work, but would still be awfully toughI think Sha really needs something that would work as Posthumanism 101. Speaking of which, did the SFRA Review do a Posthumanism 101 feature any time over the past few years? Mike ________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] on behalf of Dave Samuelson [Dave.Samuelson at csulb.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:07 PM To: Laura Wiebe; iafa-l at sigcis.org; Sha LaBare; sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] [IAFA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? Bodies of Tomorrow by Sheryl Vint is a good place to start. Dave Samuelson ________________________________ From: iafa-l-bounces at sigcis.org [iafa-l-bounces at sigcis.org] on behalf of Laura Wiebe [lauramwiebe at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:37 AM To: Sha LaBare; sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu; iafa-l at sigcis.org Subject: Re: [IAFA-L] [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? Dear Sha, In terms of shorter pieces, Veronica Hollinger's "Posthumanism and Cyborg Theory" in The Routledge Companion to Science Fiction might be useful. There is also a 2003 issue of Cultural Critique (53.1) dedicated to posthumanism. Best, Laura Laura Wiebe PhD Candidate, Department of English and Cultural Studies McMaster University lauramwiebe at gmail.com ________________________________ From: Sha LaBare To: "sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu" ; "iafa-l at sigcis.org" Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:07:49 AM Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? Dear Hivemind, A friend of mine is considering using Dozois's "Supermen" collection for a comp class he's teaching. He asked me for a rec re: "great articles that introduce and discuss Posthumanism?" I am feeling quite dumb because I can't think of anything to suggest; can anyone help me out here, please? remain in light, Sha _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From rcalvink at ic.sunysb.edu Thu Aug 9 13:34:44 2012 From: rcalvink at ic.sunysb.edu (Ritchie Calvin) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:34:44 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] [IAFA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: <6C3B19DC3F72CB4C85AC44E70BA15EA0263C9223@gumby.uwstout.edu> References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> <1344343042.44206.YahooMailNeo@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6C3B19DC3F72CB4C85AC44E70BA15EA0263C9223@gumby.uwstout.edu> Message-ID: <730082ec127f.5023bc74@ic.sunysb.edu> No, the SFRA did not run a posthumanism 101. We've run: Comic Studies 101 Critical History of Argentine SF Fan Studies 101 Feminist SF 101 Genre Fiction in the (Pre)College Writing Classroom Medicine and Science Fiction Mundane 101 New Weird 101 Postmodernism 101 Pride and Wikiness Recent Spanish Science Fiction Scholarly Research and Writing 101 Science Studies 101 SF Anthologies SF Audio 101, or ?It's Alive? Slipstream 101 Using Book History to Teach Science Fiction Video Games 101 A posthumanism 101 is due! Best, Ritch Calvin Department of Cultural Analysis and Theory Humanities 2119 SUNY Stony Brook Program Advisor, Women's and Gender Studies Chair, A&S Undergraduate Curriculum Committee President, SFRA 631-632-7607 rcalvink at ic.sunysb.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Levy, Michael" Date: Thursday, August 9, 2012 1:29 pm Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] [IAFA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? To: Dave Samuelson , Laura Wiebe , "iafa-l at sigcis.org" , Sha LaBare , "sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu" > If this is a Freshman Comp class, most of the students (if > they're anything like my freshmen) will bounce off Sherryl's > book, good as it is. Veronica's piece might work, but > would still be awfully toughI think Sha really needs something > that would work as Posthumanism 101. Speaking of which, > did the SFRA Review do a Posthumanism 101 feature any time over > the past few years? > > > > Mike > > ________________________________ > From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [sfra-l- > bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] on behalf of Dave Samuelson > [Dave.Samuelson at csulb.edu]Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:07 PM > To: Laura Wiebe; iafa-l at sigcis.org; Sha LaBare; sfra- > l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.eduSubject: Re: [SFRA-L] [IAFA-L] good > introductory critical article on posthumanism? > > Bodies of Tomorrow by Sheryl Vint is a good place to start. > > Dave Samuelson > ________________________________ > From: iafa-l-bounces at sigcis.org [iafa-l-bounces at sigcis.org] on > behalf of Laura Wiebe [lauramwiebe at gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:37 AM > To: Sha LaBare; sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu; iafa-l at sigcis.org > Subject: Re: [IAFA-L] [SFRA-L] good introductory critical > article on posthumanism? > > Dear Sha, > > In terms of shorter pieces, Veronica Hollinger's "Posthumanism > and Cyborg Theory" in The Routledge Companion to Science Fiction > might be useful. There is also a 2003 issue of Cultural Critique > (53.1) dedicated to posthumanism. > > Best, > Laura > > Laura Wiebe > PhD Candidate, Department of English and Cultural Studies > McMaster University > lauramwiebe at gmail.com > > ________________________________ > From: Sha LaBare > To: "sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu" l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu>; "iafa-l at sigcis.org" > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:07:49 AM > Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? > > Dear Hivemind, > A friend of mine is considering using Dozois's "Supermen" > collection for a comp class he's teaching. He asked me for > a rec re: "great articles that introduce and discuss > Posthumanism?" I am feeling quite dumb because I can't > think of anything to suggest; can anyone help me out here, please? > remain in light, > Sha > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ddavis at gdn.edu Thu Aug 9 14:03:45 2012 From: ddavis at gdn.edu (Davis, Doug) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:03:45 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] [IAFA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: <730082ec127f.5023bc74@ic.sunysb.edu> References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> <1344343042.44206.YahooMailNeo@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6C3B19DC3F72CB4C85AC44E70BA15EA0263C9223@gumby.uwstout.edu> <730082ec127f.5023bc74@ic.sunysb.edu> Message-ID: The SFRA Review would indeed very much like to run a Posthumanism 101. Anybody out there want to write it? Drop me an email if you do. D Doug Davis, Ph.D. Editor, SFRA Review Associate Professor of English Division of Humanities Gordon College 419 College Drive Barnesville, GA 30204 ddavis at gdn.edu (678) 359 5817 (office) (678) 359 5140 (fax) On Aug 9, 2012, at 1:35 PM, "Ritchie Calvin" > wrote: No, the SFRA did not run a posthumanism 101. We've run: Comic Studies 101 Critical History of Argentine SF Fan Studies 101 Feminist SF 101 Genre Fiction in the (Pre)College Writing Classroom Medicine and Science Fiction Mundane 101 New Weird 101 Postmodernism 101 Pride and Wikiness Recent Spanish Science Fiction Scholarly Research and Writing 101 Science Studies 101 SF Anthologies SF Audio 101, or ?It's Alive? Slipstream 101 Using Book History to Teach Science Fiction Video Games 101 A posthumanism 101 is due! Best, Ritch Calvin Department of Cultural Analysis and Theory Humanities 2119 SUNY Stony Brook Program Advisor, Women's and Gender Studies Chair, A&S Undergraduate Curriculum Committee President, SFRA 631-632-7607 rcalvink at ic.sunysb.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Levy, Michael" > Date: Thursday, August 9, 2012 1:29 pm Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] [IAFA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? To: Dave Samuelson >, Laura Wiebe >, "iafa-l at sigcis.org" >, Sha LaBare >, "sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu" > > If this is a Freshman Comp class, most of the students (if > they're anything like my freshmen) will bounce off Sherryl's > book, good as it is. Veronica's piece might work, but > would still be awfully toughI think Sha really needs something > that would work as Posthumanism 101. Speaking of which, > did the SFRA Review do a Posthumanism 101 feature any time over > the past few years? > > > > Mike > > ________________________________ > From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [sfra-l- > bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] on behalf of Dave Samuelson > [Dave.Samuelson at csulb.edu]Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:07 PM > To: Laura Wiebe; iafa-l at sigcis.org; Sha LaBare; sfra- > l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.eduSubject: Re: [SFRA-L] [IAFA-L] good > introductory critical article on posthumanism? > > Bodies of Tomorrow by Sheryl Vint is a good place to start. > > Dave Samuelson > ________________________________ > From: iafa-l-bounces at sigcis.org [iafa-l-bounces at sigcis.org] on > behalf of Laura Wiebe [lauramwiebe at gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:37 AM > To: Sha LaBare; sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu; iafa-l at sigcis.org > Subject: Re: [IAFA-L] [SFRA-L] good introductory critical > article on posthumanism? > > Dear Sha, > > In terms of shorter pieces, Veronica Hollinger's "Posthumanism > and Cyborg Theory" in The Routledge Companion to Science Fiction > might be useful. There is also a 2003 issue of Cultural Critique > (53.1) dedicated to posthumanism. > > Best, > Laura > > Laura Wiebe > PhD Candidate, Department of English and Cultural Studies > McMaster University > lauramwiebe at gmail.com > > ________________________________ > From: Sha LaBare > > To: "sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu" l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu>; "iafa-l at sigcis.org" > > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:07:49 AM > Subject: [SFRA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? > > Dear Hivemind, > A friend of mine is considering using Dozois's "Supermen" > collection for a comp class he's teaching. He asked me for > a rec re: "great articles that introduce and discuss > Posthumanism?" I am feeling quite dumb because I can't > think of anything to suggest; can anyone help me out here, please? > remain in light, > Sha > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From khellekson at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 13:44:25 2012 From: khellekson at gmail.com (Karen Hellekson) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:44:25 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] [IAFA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: <730082ec127f.5023bc74@ic.sunysb.edu> References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> <1344343042.44206.YahooMailNeo@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6C3B19DC3F72CB4C85AC44E70BA15EA0263C9223@gumby.uwstout.edu> <730082ec127f.5023bc74@ic.sunysb.edu> Message-ID: > No, the SFRA did not run a posthumanism 101. We've run: Indeed we did not. We actually commissioned one but the writer was unable to deliver it. I agree that we need one! Something encapsulating current thought that undergraduates can handle. -- klh Karen Hellekson khellekson at gmail.com From mholtmeier at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 21:30:55 2012 From: mholtmeier at gmail.com (Matthew Holtmeier) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:30:55 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] [IAFA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> <1344343042.44206.YahooMailNeo@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6C3B19DC3F72CB4C85AC44E70BA15EA0263C9223@gumby.uwstout.edu> <730082ec127f.5023bc74@ic.sunysb.edu> Message-ID: While on the topic of SF 101's, they are available here: http://sfra.org/sf101 Mh On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Karen Hellekson wrote: > > No, the SFRA did not run a posthumanism 101. We've run: > > Indeed we did not. We actually commissioned one but the writer was > unable to deliver it. > > I agree that we need one! Something encapsulating current thought that > undergraduates can handle. > > -- > klh > > Karen Hellekson > khellekson at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grahammurphy at trentu.ca Fri Aug 10 20:37:05 2012 From: grahammurphy at trentu.ca (Graham Murphy) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:37:05 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] Suggestion for "Critical Utopia" Text? Message-ID: <502570ED.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> Hello Hive-minds (my apologies for cross posting), Every September I teach a Utopian Science Fiction course for students in a Fire Protection program; in other words, this is likely their only Arts-related course in their entire program and they're also taking 5 other mandatory courses at the same time. Thus, "accessibility" is the key word when it comes to designing my 14-week curriculum. Here is what I'm doing: Herland (Gilman): eutopia Brave New World (Huxley): dystopia V for Vendetta (Moore/Lloyd): critical dystopia Farhenheit 451 (film): dystopia (obviously, but more important as a breather from the reading material) I need a critical utopia to round out the course. In the past, I've used Woman on the Edge of Time (Piercy), but students aren't able to get through the whole book in light of the other reading load that from their perspective is quite heavy (and the other 5 courses they're doing). I'm therefore reaching out to smarter minds to get some suggestions for alternatives that are SHORT ... thus, no The Female Man, Pacific Edge, Trouble on Triton, He, She, and It, etc... I've come up with all the usual and obvious suspects, but they're not much shorter than Piercy and I'm desperately looking for "compact" and accessible. Any suggestions for short works that plainly fit into "critical utopia" to help balance the course? My brain hurts, so I'm hoping y'all can alleviate the pain. Thanks very much. Take care, Graham J. Murphy "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." Stanislaw Lem ---------------------- Dr. Graham J. 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Thanks to Andy Duncan I realized that what my friend actually needed was not an academic piece, but something along the lines of Minsky's piece. remain in light, Sha On 09/08/2012 7:30 PM, Matthew Holtmeier wrote: > While on the topic of SF 101's, they are available here: > http://sfra.org/sf101 > > Mh > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Karen Hellekson > wrote: > > > No, the SFRA did not run a posthumanism 101. We've run: > > Indeed we did not. We actually commissioned one but the writer was > unable to deliver it. > > I agree that we need one! Something encapsulating current thought that > undergraduates can handle. > > -- > klh > > Karen Hellekson > khellekson at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hunterrose82 at gmail.com Fri Aug 10 03:59:26 2012 From: hunterrose82 at gmail.com (Walter Shephard) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:59:26 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] [IAFA-L] good introductory critical article on posthumanism? In-Reply-To: References: <5020A2A5.8030708@gmail.com> <1344343042.44206.YahooMailNeo@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6C3B19DC3F72CB4C85AC44E70BA15EA0263C9223@gumby.uwstout.edu> <730082ec127f.5023bc74@ic.sunysb.edu> Message-ID: Nick Bostrom's *Transhumanist FAQ* is worth checking out as well. www.*transhumanism*.org/resources/*FAQ*v21.pdf On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Matthew Holtmeier wrote: > While on the topic of SF 101's, they are available here: > http://sfra.org/sf101 > > Mh > > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Karen Hellekson wrote: > >> > No, the SFRA did not run a posthumanism 101. We've run: >> >> Indeed we did not. We actually commissioned one but the writer was >> unable to deliver it. >> >> I agree that we need one! Something encapsulating current thought that >> undergraduates can handle. >> >> -- >> klh >> >> Karen Hellekson >> khellekson at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> SFRA-L mailing list >> SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradburymedia at yahoo.co.uk Sat Aug 11 05:30:06 2012 From: bradburymedia at yahoo.co.uk (Phil Nichols) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:30:06 +0100 (BST) Subject: [SFRA-L] Suggestion for "Critical Utopia" Text? In-Reply-To: <502570ED.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> References: <502570ED.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> Message-ID: <1344677406.72881.YahooMailNeo@web29501.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Graham, At the risk of revealing my ignorance of what precisely is meant by a "critical utopia" (and at the risk of revealing my terrible recall of what the following book is about!), I wonder whether Theodore Sturgeon's VENUS PLUS X might fit the bill. I remember it being fairly short, and full of provocative ideas on gender. - Phil Phil Nichols ww.bradburymedia.co.uk ________________________________ From: Graham Murphy To: "iafa-l at sigcis.org" Cc: SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2012, 1:37 Subject: [SFRA-L] Suggestion for "Critical Utopia" Text? Hello Hive-minds (my apologies for cross posting), Every September I teach a Utopian Science Fiction course for students in a Fire Protection program; in other words, this is likely their only Arts-related course in their entire program and they're also taking 5 other mandatory courses at the same time.? Thus, "accessibility" is the key word when it comes to designing my 14-week curriculum.? Here is what I'm doing: ? Herland (Gilman): eutopia Brave New World (Huxley): dystopia V for Vendetta (Moore/Lloyd): critical dystopia Farhenheit 451 (film): dystopia (obviously, but more important as a breather from the reading material) ? I need a critical utopia to round out the course. In the past, I've used Woman on the Edge of Time (Piercy), but students aren't able to get through the whole book in light of the other reading load that from their perspective is quite heavy (and the other 5 courses they're doing).? I'm therefore reaching out to smarter minds to get some suggestions for alternatives that are SHORT ... thus, no The Female Man, Pacific Edge, Trouble on Triton, He, She, and It, etc... I've come up?with all the usual and obvious suspects, but they're not much shorter than Piercy and I'm desperately looking for "compact" and accessible.? Any suggestions for short works that plainly fit into "critical utopia" to help balance the course?? My brain hurts, so I'm hoping y'all can alleviate the pain. Thanks very much. ? Take care, Graham J. Murphy ? "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." Stanislaw Lem ---------------------- Dr. Graham J. Murphy Cultural Studies Department/ Department of English Trent University _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I remember it being fairly short, and full of provocative ideas on gender. > > - Phil > > Phil Nichols > ww.bradburymedia.co.uk > > > From: Graham Murphy > To: "iafa-l at sigcis.org" > Cc: SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2012, 1:37 > Subject: [SFRA-L] Suggestion for "Critical Utopia" Text? > > Hello Hive-minds (my apologies for cross posting), > Every September I teach a Utopian Science Fiction course for students in a Fire Protection program; in other words, this is likely their only Arts-related course in their entire program and they're also taking 5 other mandatory courses at the same time. Thus, "accessibility" is the key word when it comes to designing my 14-week curriculum. Here is what I'm doing: > > Herland (Gilman): eutopia > Brave New World (Huxley): dystopia > V for Vendetta (Moore/Lloyd): critical dystopia > Farhenheit 451 (film): dystopia (obviously, but more important as a breather from the reading material) > > I need a critical utopia to round out the course. In the past, I've used Woman on the Edge of Time (Piercy), but students aren't able to get through the whole book in light of the other reading load that from their perspective is quite heavy (and the other 5 courses they're doing). I'm therefore reaching out to smarter minds to get some suggestions for alternatives that are SHORT ... thus, no The Female Man, Pacific Edge, Trouble on Triton, He, She, and It, etc... I've come up with all the usual and obvious suspects, but they're not much shorter than Piercy and I'm desperately looking for "compact" and accessible. Any suggestions for short works that plainly fit into "critical utopia" to help balance the course? My brain hurts, so I'm hoping y'all can alleviate the pain. > > Thanks very much. > > Take care, > Graham J. Murphy > > "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." > Stanislaw Lem > ---------------------- > Dr. Graham J. Murphy > Cultural Studies Department/ > Department of English > Trent University > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dk2244 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 12 21:56:48 2012 From: dk2244 at yahoo.com (Despina Kakoudaki) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SFRA-L] Suggestion for "Critical Utopia" Text? In-Reply-To: <17AAACF6-7A39-44F1-8CC5-01A3C9BC8FD4@gmail.com> References: <502570ED.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> <1344677406.72881.YahooMailNeo@web29501.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <17AAACF6-7A39-44F1-8CC5-01A3C9BC8FD4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1344823008.12166.YahooMailNeo@web120201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I have had great conversations with my classes every time I teach Octavia Butler's Bloodchild, which is not a typical text for eutopia/dystopia, but it presents this vision of coexistence and survival that may be adapted for the context of your class, with humans in the story escaping annihilation but making amazing compromises in the process. Or Parable of the Sower could work if you have time for it?? Good luck, Despina ________________________________ From: "nolan.belk at gmail.com" To: Phil Nichols Cc: "SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu" ; "iafa-l at sigcis.org" Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Suggestion for "Critical Utopia" Text? Tiptree's "Houston, Houston..." is an interesting choice. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Phil Nichols wrote: Graham, > >At the risk of revealing my ignorance of what precisely is meant by a "critical utopia" (and at the risk of revealing my terrible recall of what the following book is about!), I wonder whether Theodore Sturgeon's VENUS PLUS X might fit the bill. I remember it being fairly short, and full of provocative ideas on gender. > >- Phil > >Phil Nichols >ww.bradburymedia.co.uk > > > > > > >________________________________ > From: Graham Murphy >To: "iafa-l at sigcis.org" >Cc: SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu >Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2012, 1:37 >Subject: [SFRA-L] Suggestion for "Critical Utopia" Text? > > >Hello Hive-minds (my apologies for cross posting), >Every September I teach a Utopian Science Fiction course for students in a Fire Protection program; in other words, this is likely their only Arts-related course in their entire program and they're also taking 5 other mandatory courses at the same time.? Thus, "accessibility" is the key word when it comes to designing my 14-week curriculum.? Here is what I'm doing: >? >Herland (Gilman): eutopia >Brave New World (Huxley): dystopia >V for Vendetta (Moore/Lloyd): critical dystopia >Farhenheit 451 (film): dystopia (obviously, but more important as a breather from the reading material) >? >I need a critical utopia to round out the course. In the past, I've used Woman on the Edge of Time (Piercy), but students aren't able to get through the whole book in light of the other reading load that from their perspective is quite heavy (and the other 5 courses they're doing).? I'm therefore reaching out to smarter minds to get some suggestions for alternatives that are SHORT ... thus, no The Female Man, Pacific Edge, Trouble on Triton, He, She, and It, etc... I've come up?with all the usual and obvious suspects, but they're not much shorter than Piercy and I'm desperately looking for "compact" and accessible.? Any suggestions for short works that plainly fit into "critical utopia" to help balance the course?? My brain hurts, so I'm hoping y'all can alleviate the pain. > >Thanks very much. >? >Take care, >Graham J. Murphy >? >"Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." >Stanislaw Lem >---------------------- >Dr. Graham J. Murphy >Cultural Studies Department/ >Department of English >Trent University >_______________________________________________ >SFRA-L mailing list >SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu >http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > > _______________________________________________ >SFRA-L mailing list >SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu >http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shalabare at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 00:49:43 2012 From: shalabare at gmail.com (Sha LaBare) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 22:49:43 -0600 Subject: [SFRA-L] Suggestion for "Critical Utopia" Text? In-Reply-To: <502570ED.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> References: <502570ED.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> Message-ID: <50288767.50600@gmail.com> I wonder if Brian Stableford's excellent novella "Mortimer Gray's History of Death" might fit the bill? Again, not sure that it counts as a critical utopia, but a society where everyone is basically immortal and where therefore death becomes a fascinating topic - and eventual obsession - could work for your porpoises. remain in light, Sha On 10/08/2012 6:37 PM, Graham Murphy wrote: > Hello Hive-minds (my apologies for cross posting), > Every September I teach a Utopian Science Fiction course for students > in a Fire Protection program; in other words, this is likely their > only Arts-related course in their entire program and they're also > taking 5 other mandatory courses at the same time. Thus, > "accessibility" is the key word when it comes to designing my 14-week > curriculum. Here is what I'm doing: > Herland (Gilman): eutopia > Brave New World (Huxley): dystopia > V for Vendetta (Moore/Lloyd): critical dystopia > Farhenheit 451 (film): dystopia (obviously, but more important as a > breather from the reading material) > I need a critical utopia to round out the course. In the past, I've > used /Woman on the Edge of Time/ (Piercy), but students aren't able to > get through the whole book in light of the other reading load that > from their perspective is quite heavy (and the other 5 courses they're > doing). I'm therefore reaching out to smarter minds to get some > suggestions for alternatives that are SHORT ... thus, no /The Female > Man/, /Pacific Edge/, /Trouble on Triton/, /He, She, and It/, etc... > I've come up with all the usual and obvious suspects, but they're not > much shorter than Piercy and I'm desperately looking for "compact" and > accessible. Any suggestions for short works that plainly fit into > "critical utopia" to help balance the course? My brain hurts, so I'm > hoping y'all can alleviate the pain. > > Thanks very much. > Take care, > Graham J. Murphy > "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." > Stanislaw Lem > ---------------------- > Dr. Graham J. Murphy > Cultural Studies Department/ > Department of English > Trent University > > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erlichrd at muohio.edu Mon Aug 13 10:53:08 2012 From: erlichrd at muohio.edu (Richard Erlich) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:53:08 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] TANGENTAL QUERY: e-Mail address for Brian Aldiss Message-ID: <2A6B7E2C-78FE-420A-A804-CF7A17C5A1FA@muohio.edu> I have Brian Aldiss's home address and have tried the contact link on his website. If you have an e-mail address for him (or contact information on his agent), please send it to me off-List. Thank you, Rich Erlich ErlichRD at MUOhio.edu ______________________________________ Richard D. Erlich Professor Emeritus in English Port Hueneme, CA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryantatenichols at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 14:39:30 2012 From: ryantatenichols at gmail.com (Ryan Nichols) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:39:30 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] "Science Fiction by the numbers" Message-ID: Hi All, If someone has a pdf of the 1985 article "Science Fiction by the numbers" by Robert Sabella from the fanzine Science Fiction Review (a google search says v 14, i 4 sitting on their harddrive, would you please email it to me? My university library lacks this publication and my first ILL request came up blank. In addition to this, I wonder if you could help me with the bibliographic information for a second article. There was an article in SFS from perhaps the 80's about the quantitative analysis of science fiction literature, one I've read ages ago, but now I can't recall this title or author, though I do recall one diagram in it. Does this ring a bell by chance? Thank you! Ry rnichols at fullerton dot edu From KAVENYPE at uwec.edu Mon Aug 13 15:30:04 2012 From: KAVENYPE at uwec.edu (Kaveny, Philip Edward) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:30:04 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] Consignment books sales opportunity at Chicon Message-ID: <42F7EFB8B4B9424384C9E1FD5E52FF006165DC34@EX2010-MBX1.uwec.edu> sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu Consignment opportunity at Chicon Philip Kaveny here: I will have tables in the Chicon Dealer?s and am open to taken books on consignment from members, or publishers for that matter. Anybody interested contact me off list, and we can work out terms off list. To work you would have to drop the items, on weds or Thursday and pick up Sunday night. Philip Kaveny 715- 497-6369 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carol.dorf at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 10:04:55 2012 From: carol.dorf at gmail.com (carol dorf) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:04:55 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] Critical Utopia? Message-ID: You might want to consider one or two of the short stories in Ursula LeGuin's Changing Planes. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Suggestion for "Critical Utopia" Text? (nolan.belk at gmail.com) > -- Carol Dorf talkingwriting.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gib.prettyman at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 10:43:02 2012 From: gib.prettyman at gmail.com (Gib Prettyman) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:43:02 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] Suggestion for "Critical Utopia" Text? In-Reply-To: <502570ED.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> References: <502570ED.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> Message-ID: I generally use *Woman on the Edge of Time* or *The Dispossessed*, both of which demonstrate the idea of critical utopia very clearly--even if students don't read the whole text. However, a much shorter possibility might be Le Guin's novella *The New Atlantis*, which captures the feel of the genre, if not all of the substance. Cheers, Gib On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Graham Murphy wrote: > Hello Hive-minds (my apologies for cross posting), > Every September I teach a Utopian Science Fiction course for students in a > Fire Protection program; in other words, this is likely their only > Arts-related course in their entire program and they're also taking 5 other > mandatory courses at the same time. Thus, "accessibility" is the key word > when it comes to designing my 14-week curriculum. Here is what I'm doing: > > Herland (Gilman): eutopia > Brave New World (Huxley): dystopia > V for Vendetta (Moore/Lloyd): critical dystopia > Farhenheit 451 (film): dystopia (obviously, but more important as a > breather from the reading material) > > I need a critical utopia to round out the course. In the past, I've used *Woman > on the Edge of Time* (Piercy), but students aren't able to get through > the whole book in light of the other reading load that from their > perspective is quite heavy (and the other 5 courses they're doing). I'm > therefore reaching out to smarter minds to get some suggestions for > alternatives that are SHORT ... thus, no *The Female Man*, *Pacific Edge*, > *Trouble on Triton*, *He, She, and It*, etc... I've come up with all the > usual and obvious suspects, but they're not much shorter than Piercy and > I'm desperately looking for "compact" and accessible. Any suggestions for > short works that plainly fit into "critical utopia" to help balance the > course? My brain hurts, so I'm hoping y'all can alleviate the pain. > > Thanks very much. > > Take care, > Graham J. Murphy > > "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." > Stanislaw Lem > ---------------------- > Dr. Graham J. Murphy > Cultural Studies Department/ > Department of English > Trent University > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > -- Gib Prettyman Associate Professor of English Associate Editor, Resources for American Literary Study Secretary-Treasurer, Society for Utopian Studies Penn State Fayette, The Eberly Campus 2201 University Drive Lemont Furnace, PA 15456 724-430-4250 cgp3 at psu.edu How sad that people ignore the near And search for truth afar. --Hakuin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clan.rockwood at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 15:40:26 2012 From: clan.rockwood at gmail.com (Sue & Bruce Rockwood) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:40:26 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] Suggestion for "Critical Utopia" Text? In-Reply-To: <502570ED.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> References: <502570ED.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> Message-ID: Other books that might work are Atwood "The Handmaid's Tale" or Rushdie "Haroun and the Sea of Stories." If you are using film, "Gattaca" might be useful. Wikipedia's entry on it starts that is is "a 1997 science fiction filmwritten and directed by Andrew Niccol . It stars Ethan Hawke, Uma Thurman and Jude Lawwith supporting roles played by Loren Dean , Ernest Borgnine, Gore Vidal and Alan Arkin. The film presents a biopunkvision of a future society driven by liberal eugenics where potential children are selected through preimplantation genetic diagnosisto ensure they possess the best hereditary traits of their parents. [1] A genetic registry database uses biometrics to instantly identify and classify those so created as "valids" while those conceived by traditional means are derisively known as "in-valids". While genetic discrimination is forbidden by law, in practice it is easy to profile a person's genotyperesulting in the valids qualifying for professional employment while the in-valids?considered more susceptible to disease, ... Bruce Rockwood On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Graham Murphy wrote: > Hello Hive-minds (my apologies for cross posting), > Every September I teach a Utopian Science Fiction course for students in a > Fire Protection program; in other words, this is likely their only > Arts-related course in their entire program and they're also taking 5 other > mandatory courses at the same time. Thus, "accessibility" is the key word > when it comes to designing my 14-week curriculum. Here is what I'm doing: > > Herland (Gilman): eutopia > Brave New World (Huxley): dystopia > V for Vendetta (Moore/Lloyd): critical dystopia > Farhenheit 451 (film): dystopia (obviously, but more important as a > breather from the reading material) > > I need a critical utopia to round out the course. In the past, I've used *Woman > on the Edge of Time* (Piercy), but students aren't able to get through > the whole book in light of the other reading load that from their > perspective is quite heavy (and the other 5 courses they're doing). I'm > therefore reaching out to smarter minds to get some suggestions for > alternatives that are SHORT ... thus, no *The Female Man*, *Pacific Edge*, > *Trouble on Triton*, *He, She, and It*, etc... I've come up with all the > usual and obvious suspects, but they're not much shorter than Piercy and > I'm desperately looking for "compact" and accessible. Any suggestions for > short works that plainly fit into "critical utopia" to help balance the > course? My brain hurts, so I'm hoping y'all can alleviate the pain. > > Thanks very much. > > Take care, > Graham J. Murphy > > "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." > Stanislaw Lem > ---------------------- > Dr. Graham J. Murphy > Cultural Studies Department/ > Department of English > Trent University > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ErlichRD at MUOhio.edu Tue Aug 14 17:21:31 2012 From: ErlichRD at MUOhio.edu (Richard Erlich) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:21:31 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] Suggestion for "Critical Utopia" Text? (Tiptree's "Houston, Houston, Do You Read") In-Reply-To: <17AAACF6-7A39-44F1-8CC5-01A3C9BC8FD4@gmail.com> References: <502570ED.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> <1344677406.72881.YahooMailNeo@web29501.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <17AAACF6-7A39-44F1-8CC5-01A3C9BC8FD4@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 11/08/2012, at 9:35, nolan.belk at gmail.com wrote: > Tiptree's "Houston, Houston..." is an interesting choice. Indeed! It's also a great way to get into the vexed and intriguing question of literary tone, plus some political/ethical issues of equal difficulty and far greater importance. I had a friend willing to argue for "Houston" as a pretty much straight-forward eutopia with ? Spoiler ? ? the death of an utterly random and vanishingly rare male or two or three a small price to pay for a Good Place. Arguably, it raises in a less loaded way the basic question of ends and means of Le Guin's ?The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas (Variations on a Theme by William James).? Especially if one is willing to allow Machiavelli his due, and this one is, both works raise the critical utopian question (with pun here) of imagining a benefit great enough to justify really high costs. Also, if instructors want to be nasty, they can get a debate going with the suggestion that the Omelites and the women of "Houston" are morally superior to most people likely to read the stories. I'll suggest that this far, if no further, we should put "The Ones Who Walk Away" in the tradition of Sir Thomas More's Utopia (1516) and also Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" (1729): More's Utopia should shame Europeans by showing how much more ethical Utopians are with only reason than Christian Europeans with both reason and revelation (J. H. Hexter, More's Utopia, 1952). The final turn of "A Modest Proposal" shows us that the Projector is a monster who would sell human baby meat to solve Ireland's economic problems and that he is more ethical than his rich Irish and English readers. Even so, we may, and should, identify with those who walk away from Omelas until we're "ambushed" by the thought that those who stay in Omelas are better people than Le Guin's generally privileged readers. 14 The Omelites live well from the suffering of only one child, and they are all conscious of the child's suffering (WTQ 257). The economy that sustains most of Western prosperity is based on the exploitation of many more, and those who suffer are virtually invisible to the privileged (see Le Guin's "Non-Euclidian View" 83-84). ______________________________________ Richard D. Erlich Professor Emeritus in English Port Hueneme, CA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What does the ecological and social future look like in science fiction literature and film when writers think about the implications of current demographic changes or the effects of industrial toxins and GMOs as they move across political and biological borders? What social and cultural commentary is imbedded in such thinking, and is science fiction an effective place for such commentary? Has the representation of ecological futures in science fiction shifted over the decades, taking on more or less urgency about energy or global ecological thresholds? What do works in the genre suggest to be areas of needed ethical, emotional, and financial investment now for the emergence of an ecologically sustainable and socially just future? This panel is sponsored by the Science Fiction Research Association (SFRA), a professional affiliate organization of ASLE. Please submit a 200-word proposal in the body of an email to Eric Otto at eotto at fgcu.edu by Friday, November 2nd, 2012. 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URL: From vallen at iastate.edu Sat Aug 18 17:59:27 2012 From: vallen at iastate.edu (Allen, Virginia [ENGL]) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 21:59:27 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] art, darwin, statistical analysis In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <820E510FBA39CC4696E3ACDB529C97A73A613C86@ITSDAG2D.its.iastate.edu> The Hirsch was very competent until the very ending where he gives in to a high bit of dudgeon that Kandel (Age of Insight) doesn't validate the sublime. The SF connection is the uncanny/sublime pairing.... Thanks for the Scientific American ref; haven't read it yet. VA ________________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu] on behalf of Easterbrook, Neil [n.easterbrook at tcu.edu] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 7:38 AM To: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: [SFRA-L] art, darwin, statistical analysis Just possibly of interest to more of you than Ryan, but nothing here abt sf specifically. Kirsch's is a long review concerning the rise of sciobiological models in the arts, and the Scientific American piece is on the humanities and statistical analysis; the former is quite long and the latter relatively brief. --Neil http://www.tnr.com/article/books-and-arts/magazine/104870/charles-darwin-evolution-art-kirsch http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/literally-psyched/2012/08/10/humanities-arent-a-science-stop-treating-them-like-one/ From carmien at mac.com Sun Aug 19 19:07:45 2012 From: carmien at mac.com (Edward Carmien) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:07:45 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] for Y.T. Message-ID: <46F6CB17-E662-4E91-9DB1-74BFA64C76DE@mac.com> http://newslite.tv/2012/08/19/hovding-airbag-cyclist-helmet.html ejc Ed Carmien carmien at mac.com From pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com Mon Aug 20 09:55:13 2012 From: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com (John Pierce) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 09:55:13 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net Message-ID: Just re-read it during breaks on my vacation, and it's a terrific novel, one of the best of recent times. But I have to say that I'm baffled by some of the critical response to it. Laura Webster is the protagonist who literally saves the world by sheer grit and determination in tracking down and exposing a global conspiracy. Yet Nicola Nixon in SFS could see her only as a "hapless" victim in need of rescue by macho males. It doesn't matter that she's the one who has to convince one of the "macho" males (something of a nut case, like at least half the males in the book) to broadcast the truth to the world. Or that it's her husband David, a hardly macho type, who wimps out on her when she risks everything to pursue her quest. That does end up with her being imprisoned when the conspirators think she's learned about their nukes but, like, are male protagonists in sf never beaten, shot, imprisoned, whatever? If ISLANDS IN THE NET is part of the War or Women, then Nancy Pelosi is a secret agent of the Tea Party! --J.J.P. From n.easterbrook at tcu.edu Mon Aug 20 09:58:43 2012 From: n.easterbrook at tcu.edu (Easterbrook, Neil) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 08:58:43 -0500 Subject: [SFRA-L] Lekyll & Hyde Message-ID: Folks-- This fall I'm teaching the 1886 J & H, and for the first time. Any tips? --Neil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jacobsen at mesacc.edu Mon Aug 20 11:10:53 2012 From: jacobsen at mesacc.edu (Craig Jacobsen) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 08:10:53 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] Lekyll & Hyde In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Context? What's the course? Why J&H? The 2007 BBC "sequel" is good, though falls apart near the end. Craig On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Easterbrook, Neil wrote: > Folks-- > > This fall I'm teaching the 1886 J & H, and for the first time. > > Any tips? > > --Neil > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > -- Craig B. Jacobsen Residential English Faculty Curriculum Development Facilitator Mesa Community College 1833 West Southern Ave. Mesa, AZ 85202 480-461-7244 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ddavis at gdn.edu Mon Aug 20 11:45:03 2012 From: ddavis at gdn.edu (Davis, Doug) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 11:45:03 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] Lekyll & Hyde In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95D28D5A-85CE-4175-B32D-6D7378471ACB@gdn.edu> I teach j&H regularly as part of Brit Lit II. Students love it. Some of the things we discuss: symbolic role of the (foggy) setting; relationship between body/mind/character; the story's Gothic elements; the bad/premodern kind of science Dr. J practices (and comparisons to Shelley's The Mortal Immortal and Frankenstein); the Victorian theme of doubleness and continuity with Conrad's (Heart of Darkness) and Wilde's (Earnest) treatment of similar theme. And show them this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN4Di8DEPf8 Doug Davis, Ph.D. Editor, SFRA Review Associate Professor of English Division of Humanities Gordon State College 419 College Drive Barnesville, GA 30204 ddavis at gdn.edu (678) 359 5817 (office) (678) 359 5140 (fax) On Aug 20, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Craig Jacobsen wrote: Context? What's the course? Why J&H? The 2007 BBC "sequel" is good, though falls apart near the end. Craig On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Easterbrook, Neil > wrote: Folks-- This fall I'm teaching the 1886 J & H, and for the first time. Any tips? --Neil _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -- Craig B. Jacobsen Residential English Faculty Curriculum Development Facilitator Mesa Community College 1833 West Southern Ave. Mesa, AZ 85202 480-461-7244 _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From vallen at iastate.edu Mon Aug 20 11:53:37 2012 From: vallen at iastate.edu (Allen, Virginia [ENGL]) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:53:37 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] for Y.T. In-Reply-To: <46F6CB17-E662-4E91-9DB1-74BFA64C76DE@mac.com> References: <46F6CB17-E662-4E91-9DB1-74BFA64C76DE@mac.com> Message-ID: <820E510FBA39CC4696E3ACDB529C97A73A614869@ITSDAG2D.its.iastate.edu> Oh, no. That can't be good. You have a sudden jolt, like going off a curb too hard, the helmet inflates, you lose all peripheral vision, and ... road kill. VA ________________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu] on behalf of Edward Carmien [carmien at mac.com] Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 6:07 PM To: SFRA list Subject: [SFRA-L] for Y.T. http://newslite.tv/2012/08/19/hovding-airbag-cyclist-helmet.html ejc Ed Carmien carmien at mac.com _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From KAVENYPE at uwec.edu Mon Aug 20 12:08:10 2012 From: KAVENYPE at uwec.edu (Kaveny, Philip Edward) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:08:10 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] I have a question for Richard Edrich sorry about the spelling Message-ID: <42F7EFB8B4B9424384C9E1FD5E52FF006165DFD1@EX2010-MBX1.uwec.edu> Please reply to me off list and sorry about the spelling of your name -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Yet Nicola Nixon in SFS could see her only as a "hapless" victim in need of rescue by macho males. It doesn't matter that she's the one who has to convince one of the "macho" males (something of a nut case, like at least half the males in the book) to broadcast the truth to the world. Or that it's her husband David, a hardly macho type, who wimps out on her when she risks everything to pursue her quest. That does end up with her being imprisoned when the conspirators think she's learned about their nukes but, like, are male protagonists in sf never beaten, shot, imprisoned, whatever? If ISLANDS IN THE NET is part of the War or Women, then Nancy Pelosi is a secret agent of the Tea Party! --J.J.P. _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From vallen at iastate.edu Mon Aug 20 12:56:46 2012 From: vallen at iastate.edu (Allen, Virginia [ENGL]) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:56:46 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net In-Reply-To: <3125014D1A4A7C4391EC2803965DBA776D5DAF40@EXCH10-DRMBX-01.home.ku.edu> References: , <3125014D1A4A7C4391EC2803965DBA776D5DAF40@EXCH10-DRMBX-01.home.ku.edu> Message-ID: <820E510FBA39CC4696E3ACDB529C97A73A6148C0@ITSDAG2D.its.iastate.edu> The thing I remember from the Campbell awards ceremony that year was Bruce Sterling's saying modestly, "I did the best that I could at the time." What I remember all these years later about the book is the baby that got carried around like a football. Putting a baby in the middle of the action struck me as a brave attempt, even though the author wasn't quite sure what babies do or what must be done to sustain them in an oxygen atmosphere. The war on women is real enough without inflicting collateral damage on innocent authors doing the best they can at the time, and doing it pretty well. VA ________________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu] on behalf of Gunn, James E. [jgunn at ku.edu] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:22 AM To: John Pierce; SFRA-L at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net Islands in the Net won the Campbell award. Jim ________________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] on behalf of John Pierce [pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:55 AM To: SFRA-L at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu Subject: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net Just re-read it during breaks on my vacation, and it's a terrific novel, one of the best of recent times. But I have to say that I'm baffled by some of the critical response to it. Laura Webster is the protagonist who literally saves the world by sheer grit and determination in tracking down and exposing a global conspiracy. Yet Nicola Nixon in SFS could see her only as a "hapless" victim in need of rescue by macho males. It doesn't matter that she's the one who has to convince one of the "macho" males (something of a nut case, like at least half the males in the book) to broadcast the truth to the world. Or that it's her husband David, a hardly macho type, who wimps out on her when she risks everything to pursue her quest. That does end up with her being imprisoned when the conspirators think she's learned about their nukes but, like, are male protagonists in sf never beaten, shot, imprisoned, whatever? If ISLANDS IN THE NET is part of the War or Women, then Nancy Pelosi is a secret agent of the Tea Party! --J.J.P. _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From jgunn at ku.edu Mon Aug 20 13:04:32 2012 From: jgunn at ku.edu (Gunn, James E.) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:04:32 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net In-Reply-To: <820E510FBA39CC4696E3ACDB529C97A73A6148C0@ITSDAG2D.its.iastate.edu> References: , <3125014D1A4A7C4391EC2803965DBA776D5DAF40@EXCH10-DRMBX-01.home.ku.edu>, <820E510FBA39CC4696E3ACDB529C97A73A6148C0@ITSDAG2D.its.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <3125014D1A4A7C4391EC2803965DBA776D5DAFBC@EXCH10-DRMBX-01.home.ku.edu> Betty Hull called it "a rubber baby." But I remember Bruce at a subsequent SFRA meeting carrying his baby around in a sling on his chest just like the characters in ISLANDS IN THE NET. He lived what he wrote :-). Jim ________________________________________ From: Allen, Virginia [ENGL] [vallen at iastate.edu] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:56 AM To: Gunn, James E.; John Pierce; SFRA-L at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu Subject: RE: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net The thing I remember from the Campbell awards ceremony that year was Bruce Sterling's saying modestly, "I did the best that I could at the time." What I remember all these years later about the book is the baby that got carried around like a football. Putting a baby in the middle of the action struck me as a brave attempt, even though the author wasn't quite sure what babies do or what must be done to sustain them in an oxygen atmosphere. The war on women is real enough without inflicting collateral damage on innocent authors doing the best they can at the time, and doing it pretty well. VA ________________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu] on behalf of Gunn, James E. [jgunn at ku.edu] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:22 AM To: John Pierce; SFRA-L at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net Islands in the Net won the Campbell award. Jim ________________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] on behalf of John Pierce [pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:55 AM To: SFRA-L at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu Subject: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net Just re-read it during breaks on my vacation, and it's a terrific novel, one of the best of recent times. But I have to say that I'm baffled by some of the critical response to it. Laura Webster is the protagonist who literally saves the world by sheer grit and determination in tracking down and exposing a global conspiracy. Yet Nicola Nixon in SFS could see her only as a "hapless" victim in need of rescue by macho males. It doesn't matter that she's the one who has to convince one of the "macho" males (something of a nut case, like at least half the males in the book) to broadcast the truth to the world. Or that it's her husband David, a hardly macho type, who wimps out on her when she risks everything to pursue her quest. That does end up with her being imprisoned when the conspirators think she's learned about their nukes but, like, are male protagonists in sf never beaten, shot, imprisoned, whatever? If ISLANDS IN THE NET is part of the War or Women, then Nancy Pelosi is a secret agent of the Tea Party! --J.J.P. _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com Mon Aug 20 13:21:48 2012 From: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com (John Pierce) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:21:48 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net In-Reply-To: <3125014D1A4A7C4391EC2803965DBA776D5DAFBC@EXCH10-DRMBX-01.home.ku.edu> References: , <3125014D1A4A7C4391EC2803965DBA776D5DAF40@EXCH10-DRMBX-01.home.ku.edu>, <820E510FBA39CC4696E3ACDB529C97A73A6148C0@ITSDAG2D.its.iastate.edu> <3125014D1A4A7C4391EC2803965DBA776D5DAFBC@EXCH10-DRMBX-01.home.ku.edu> Message-ID: <875D7FC8-C1CD-42E6-B2D9-14BAC96D1CC9@ewwpi.com> Oddly enough, Nixon's jeremiad against cyberpunk didn't even mention the business about the baby. It's all about how Gibson and Sterling and the rest are Reaganite cowboys obsessed with the size of their dicks. Funny, though; guys are ALL supposed to like that, and yet there's a common expression, "He doesn't know dick" about something. I remember Nathan Arizona in RAISING ARIZONA chewing out one of his buyers: "Leaf tables and chairs, you got a dinette set; leaf tables and no chairs, you got dick." --J.J. On Aug 20, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Gunn, James E. wrote: > Betty Hull called it "a rubber baby." But I remember Bruce at a > subsequent SFRA meeting carrying his baby around in a sling on his > chest just like the characters in ISLANDS IN THE NET. He lived what > he wrote :-). Jim > ________________________________________ > From: Allen, Virginia [ENGL] [vallen at iastate.edu] > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:56 AM > To: Gunn, James E.; John Pierce; SFRA-L at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu > Subject: RE: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net > > The thing I remember from the Campbell awards ceremony that year was > Bruce Sterling's saying modestly, "I did the best that I could at > the time." > > What I remember all these years later about the book is the baby > that got carried around like a football. Putting a baby in the > middle of the action struck me as a brave attempt, even though the > author wasn't quite sure what babies do or what must be done to > sustain them in an oxygen atmosphere. The war on women is real > enough without inflicting collateral damage on innocent authors > doing the best they can at the time, and doing it pretty well. > > VA > ________________________________________ > From: sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu > ] on behalf of Gunn, James E. [jgunn at ku.edu] > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:22 AM > To: John Pierce; SFRA-L at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net > > Islands in the Net won the Campbell award. Jim > ________________________________________ > From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [sfra-l- > bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] on behalf of John Pierce [pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com > ] > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:55 AM > To: SFRA-L at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu > Subject: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net > > Just re-read it during breaks on my vacation, and it's a terrific > novel, one of the best of recent times. But I have to say that I'm > baffled by some of the critical response to it. Laura Webster is the > protagonist who literally saves the world by sheer grit and > determination in tracking down and exposing a global conspiracy. Yet > Nicola Nixon in SFS could see her only as a "hapless" victim in need > of rescue by macho males. It doesn't matter that she's the one who has > to convince one of the "macho" males (something of a nut case, like at > least half the males in the book) to broadcast the truth to the world. > Or that it's her husband David, a hardly macho type, who wimps out on > her when she risks everything to pursue her quest. That does end up > with her being imprisoned when the conspirators think she's learned > about their nukes but, like, are male protagonists in sf never beaten, > shot, imprisoned, whatever? If ISLANDS IN THE NET is part of the War > or Women, then Nancy Pelosi is a secret agent of the Tea Party! > > --J.J.P. > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > > From n.easterbrook at tcu.edu Mon Aug 20 14:04:14 2012 From: n.easterbrook at tcu.edu (Easterbrook, Neil) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:04:14 -0500 Subject: [SFRA-L] J, not L Message-ID: Ok, ok. Busy weekend, busier week. Sorry. --N -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sageorge13 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 20 19:12:35 2012 From: sageorge13 at yahoo.com (Susan A. George) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:12:35 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] Call for Papers on SF or Distarer Arctic Cinema Message-ID: <000001cd7f29$48fb5530$daf1ff90$@com> Hello Everyone, I was recently sent on inquiry about folks who might be interested in contributing to a anthology on Arctic Cinema: Hollywood Arctic Disaster or SF films. They asked me for the names in interested individuals, but I thought the best thing to do was to post their call to the list serve. You will find it below. Sounds interesting and, of course, The Thing came to my mind immediately. Best, Susan **************** ARCTIC CINEMA: Hollywood Arctic Disaster or Science Fiction Films We are seeking proposals for a volume entitled _Films on Ice: Arctic Imaginations, Landscapes, and Populations in Twentieth Century Moving Images._ Films on Ice is the first book of its kind to analyse the cinemas of the Arctic from a transnational, global perspective. Bringing together an international array of scholars and researchers from the Arctic countries (Canada, the US, Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway and Russia), we aim to trace out the key issues facing the study of Arctic moving images, both those made in the Global North and those that, for various reasons, appropriate the North to their own political and aesthetic ends. Much like the moving images of the Global North itself, this project stretches back to the beginnings of cinema and forward to the present day. It is centrally concerned with how the concept of the Arctic is imagined how these imaginings are articulated through moving image production. At this time, proposals are solicited from scholars who have an interest in Hollywood Science Fiction and Disaster Films Set in, or engaging with the Arctic, broadly conceived. If you are interested in contributing a chapter on this topic, please email the co-editors Scott MacKenzie (scott.mackenzie22 at gmail.com) and Anna W. Stenport (aws at illinois.edu) by September 5, 2012, with a short, 100-200 word proposal. Final 5,000 word ms expected by June 15, 2013. Susan A. George, Ph.D. Lecturer, Merritt Writing Program, UC Merced Secretary, Science Fiction Research Association -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shalabare at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 02:50:36 2012 From: shalabare at gmail.com (Sha LaBare) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:50:36 -0600 Subject: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5034813C.5060906@gmail.com> Oh come now. Nicola Nixon clearly has a feminist axe to grind, and why not? In a genre dominated by men living out male fantasies, an anti-male strategy seems quite obvious. This doesn't make Islands in the Net part of the "War on Women", but it does make a certain reading of it downright inevitable. This is less about the book itself - which I haven't read recently, but which I quite enjoyed some 20 years ago - than about the overall culture of sf. I agree with you that Nixon overstates her claims, but in your case the lad(y) doth protest too much: why raise a stink about some random critic's assessment of a book unless you have some important stake in male supremacy? In other words, the earnest exclamations of those in power - those of us who don't suffer from pay discrimination, who aren't constantly subjected to workplace sexual harassment, and who aren't currently targeted by the Republicans' War on Women - sound weak at best. Let Nixon have her say, what's the cost to you? Unless you honestly want to defend the status quo, in which case, be straight about it and join the conservatives who are currently trying to keep women second-class citizens. This is not the first time you and I have tangled, and I suspect it will not be last, but, in any case, remain in light, Sha On 20/08/2012 7:55 AM, John Pierce wrote: > Just re-read it during breaks on my vacation, and it's a terrific > novel, one of the best of recent times. But I have to say that I'm > baffled by some of the critical response to it. Laura Webster is the > protagonist who literally saves the world by sheer grit and > determination in tracking down and exposing a global conspiracy. Yet > Nicola Nixon in SFS could see her only as a "hapless" victim in need > of rescue by macho males. It doesn't matter that she's the one who has > to convince one of the "macho" males (something of a nut case, like at > least half the males in the book) to broadcast the truth to the world. > Or that it's her husband David, a hardly macho type, who wimps out on > her when she risks everything to pursue her quest. That does end up > with her being imprisoned when the conspirators think she's learned > about their nukes but, like, are male protagonists in sf never beaten, > shot, imprisoned, whatever? If ISLANDS IN THE NET is part of the War > or Women, then Nancy Pelosi is a secret agent of the Tea Party! > > --J.J.P. > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From rob.latham at ucr.edu Wed Aug 22 03:03:29 2012 From: rob.latham at ucr.edu (Rob Latham) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:03:29 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net In-Reply-To: <5034813C.5060906@gmail.com> References: <5034813C.5060906@gmail.com> Message-ID: I sense an alpha male pissing contest developing.... On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:50 PM, Sha LaBare wrote: > Oh come now. Nicola Nixon clearly has a feminist axe to grind, and > why not? In a genre dominated by men living out male fantasies, an > anti-male strategy seems quite obvious. This doesn't make Islands > in the Net part of the "War on Women", but it does make a certain > reading of it downright inevitable. This is less about the book > itself - which I haven't read recently, but which I quite enjoyed > some 20 years ago - than about the overall culture of sf. I agree > with you that Nixon overstates her claims, but in your case the > lad(y) doth protest too much: why raise a stink about some random > critic's assessment of a book unless you have some important stake > in male supremacy? In other words, the earnest exclamations of > those in power - those of us who don't suffer from pay > discrimination, who aren't constantly subjected to workplace sexual > harassment, and who aren't currently targeted by the Republicans' > War on Women - sound weak at best. Let Nixon have her say, what's > the cost to you? Unless you honestly want to defend the status quo, > in which case, be straight about it and join the conservatives who > are currently trying to keep women second-class citizens. > This is not the first time you and I have tangled, and I suspect it > will not be last, but, in any case, > remain in light, > Sha > > > On 20/08/2012 7:55 AM, John Pierce wrote: >> Just re-read it during breaks on my vacation, and it's a terrific >> novel, one of the best of recent times. But I have to say that I'm >> baffled by some of the critical response to it. Laura Webster is >> the protagonist who literally saves the world by sheer grit and >> determination in tracking down and exposing a global conspiracy. >> Yet Nicola Nixon in SFS could see her only as a "hapless" victim in >> need of rescue by macho males. It doesn't matter that she's the one >> who has to convince one of the "macho" males (something of a nut >> case, like at least half the males in the book) to broadcast the >> truth to the world. Or that it's her husband David, a hardly macho >> type, who wimps out on her when she risks everything to pursue her >> quest. That does end up with her being imprisoned when the >> conspirators think she's learned about their nukes but, like, are >> male protagonists in sf never beaten, shot, imprisoned, whatever? >> If ISLANDS IN THE NET is part of the War or Women, then Nancy >> Pelosi is a secret agent of the Tea Party! >> >> --J.J.P. >> _______________________________________________ >> SFRA-L mailing list >> SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JRMadDog at aol.com Wed Aug 22 08:33:07 2012 From: JRMadDog at aol.com (JRMadDog at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net Message-ID: <24932.6ddb08cb.3d662b83@aol.com> GREAT! I'll chip in for the keg! Regards, James R Madden +1.225.266.6196 mobile In a message dated 8/22/2012 2:03:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rob.latham at ucr.edu writes: From: Rob Latham <_rob.latham at ucr.edu_ (mailto:rob.latham at ucr.edu) > To: Sha LaBare <_shalabare at gmail.com_ (mailto:shalabare at gmail.com) > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:03:29 -0700 Cc: _sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu_ (mailto:sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu) Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net I sense an alpha male pissing contest developing.... On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:50 PM, Sha LaBare wrote: Oh come now. Nicola Nixon clearly has a feminist axe to grind, and why not? In a genre dominated by men living out male fantasies, an anti-male strategy seems quite obvious. This doesn't make Islands in the Net part of the "War on Women", but it does make a certain reading of it downright inevitable. This is less about the book itself - which I haven't read recently, but which I quite enjoyed some 20 years ago - than about the overall culture of sf. I agree with you that Nixon overstates her claims, but in your case the lad(y) doth protest too much: why raise a stink about some random critic's assessment of a book unless you have some important stake in male supremacy? In other words, the earnest exclamations of those in power - those of us who don't suffer from pay discrimination, who aren't constantly subjected to workplace sexual harassment, and who aren't currently targeted by the Republicans' War on Women - sound weak at best. Let Nixon have her say, what's the cost to you? Unless you honestly want to defend the status quo, in which case, be straight about it and join the conservatives who are currently trying to keep women second-class citizens. This is not the first time you and I have tangled, and I suspect it will not be last, but, in any case, remain in light, Sha On 20/08/2012 7:55 AM, John Pierce wrote: Just re-read it during breaks on my vacation, and it's a terrific novel, one of the best of recent times. But I have to say that I'm baffled by some of the critical response to it. Laura Webster is the protagonist who literally saves the world by sheer grit and determination in tracking down and exposing a global conspiracy. Yet Nicola Nixon in SFS could see her only as a "hapless" victim in need of rescue by macho males. It doesn't matter that she's the one who has to convince one of the "macho" males (something of a nut case, like at least half the males in the book) to broadcast the truth to the world. Or that it's her husband David, a hardly macho type, who wimps out on her when she risks everything to pursue her quest. That does end up with her being imprisoned when the conspirators think she's learned about their nukes but, like, are male protagonists in sf never beaten, shot, imprisoned, whatever? If ISLANDS IN THE NET is part of the War or Women, then Nancy Pelosi is a secret agent of the Tea Party! --J.J.P. _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list _SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu_ (mailto:SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu) _http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l_ (http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l) _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list _SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu_ (mailto:SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu) http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l = _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com Wed Aug 22 09:03:33 2012 From: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com (pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:03:33 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net Message-ID: Let Sha piss away all he wants. Let him even declare writers like Kate Wilhelm, C.J. Cherryh, Connie Willis, Lois McMaster Bujold, Joan D. Vinge and Vonda N. McIntyre, (not to mention Ursula K. Le Guin) to be unpersons in our male-dominated genre. None of them ever won a Hugo; nobody ever read or reads their books; the Secret Masters of Fandom have falsified history. Seriously, though, Nixon may have a legitmate axe to grind. but she could have surely found a more legitimate target than Sterling in 1992, and perhaps more so now (I felt almost physically ill not long ago wading through a couple of John Ringo novels out of my duty as an sf historian.). Speaking of Sterling, he wrote an introduction to a reprint last year of John Brunner's STAND ON ZANZIBAR, citing it as a seminal (Yeah, I know my etymology!) influence on his own writing. Maybe that restroactively makes Brunner a reactionary! Seriously again, advocacy journalism isn't the same as scholarship; if it were, then Rush Limbaugh abd the people in the Tea Party crowd who think women can't get pregnant from rape would qualify as "scholars." Getting back to pissing, I'd rather see Rush locked in room with Michael Moore and have them piss at each other to their hearts' content. --J.J. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Latham [mailto:rob.latham at ucr.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 03:03 AM To: 'Sha LaBare' Cc: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] Islands in the Net I sense an alpha male pissing contest developing.... On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:50 PM, Sha LaBare wrote: Oh come now. Nicola Nixon clearly has a feminist axe to grind, and why not? In a genre dominated by men living out male fantasies, an anti-male strategy seems quite obvious. This doesn't make Islands in the Net part of the "War on Women", but it does make a certain reading of it downright inevitable. This is less about the book itself - which I haven't read recently, but which I quite enjoyed some 20 years ago - than about the overall culture of sf. I agree with you that Nixon overstates her claims, but in your case the lad(y) doth protest too much: why raise a stink about some random critic's assessment of a book unless you have some important stake in male supremacy? In other words, the earnest exclamations of those in power - those of us who don't suffer from pay discrimination, who aren't constantly subjected to workplace sexual harassment, and who aren't currently targeted by the Republicans' War on Women - sound weak at best. Let Nixon have her say, what's the cost to you? Unless you honestly want to defend the status quo, in which case, be straight about it and join the conservatives who are currently trying to keep women second-class citizens. This is not the first time you and I have tangled, and I suspect it will not be last, but, in any case, remain in light, Sha On 20/08/2012 7:55 AM, John Pierce wrote: Just re-read it during breaks on my vacation, and it's a terrific novel, one of the best of recent times. But I have to say that I'm baffled by some of the critical response to it. Laura Webster is the protagonist who literally saves the world by sheer grit and determination in tracking down and exposing a global conspiracy. Yet Nicola Nixon in SFS could see her only as a "hapless" victim in need of rescue by macho males. It doesn't matter that she's the one who has to convince one of the "macho" males (something of a nut case, like at least half the males in the book) to broadcast the truth to the world. Or that it's her husband David, a hardly macho type, who wimps out on her when she risks everything to pursue her quest. That does end up with her being imprisoned when the conspirators think she's learned about their nukes but, like, are male protagonists in sf never beaten, shot, imprisoned, whatever? If ISLANDS IN THE NET is part of the War or Women, then Nancy Pelosi is a secret agent of the Tea Party! --J.J.P. _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n.easterbrook at tcu.edu Wed Aug 22 14:59:02 2012 From: n.easterbrook at tcu.edu (Easterbrook, Neil) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:59:02 -0500 Subject: [SFRA-L] FW: Reception--call for papers for a special issue In-Reply-To: References: , <503503A1.4000004@udel.edu>, Message-ID: I imagine papers on the reception of sf, f, or ya fiction would be appropriate. --Neil ________________________________________ Call for Papers: Reception: Texts, Readers, Audiences, History The editors of Reception: Texts, Readers, Audiences, History, the journal of the Reception Study Society, invite submissions for its upcoming issues, which will appear in 2013 and 2014. The journal seeks to promote dialog and discussion among scholars in several related fields: reader-response criticism and pedagogy, reception study, history of reading and the book, audience, media/textual, and communication studies, institutional studies and histories, as well as interpretive strategies related to feminism, race, ethnicity, gender, sexuality, and postcolonial studies. The journal publishes theoretical and practical analyses in these fields, focusing mainly but not exclusively on the literature, culture, and media of England and the United States. Issues I-III are available on-line at the RSS website: http://receptionstudy.org/ The journal is published by Pennsylvania State University Press, which provides print copies and on-line distribution through JStor and Project Muse. The journal is refereed and appears once each year. At least two members of the editorial board will provide independent reports on each essay submitted for publication. Contributors will receive these reports in a timely fashion. Papers should follow MLA guidelines and should not exceed 6,000 words. Please limit the proposals to 500 words and send them to James Machor, co-editor, at Machor at ksu.edu or Department of English, 108 English/Counseling Services Bldg., Kansas State University, Manhattan, KS 66506, or to Amy Blair, co-editor, at Amy.Blair at Marquette.edu, or Coughlin Hall, 260, Marquette University, P.O. Box 1881, 607 N 13th St., Milwaukee, WI 53201-1881. For business matters, contact Philip Goldstein, director, RSS, at pgold at udel.edu or 2 Andrews Way, Newark, DE, 19711. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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And since then the only Canadian locations have been St. Anne de Bellevue in 1992 and then Guelph in 2002? Did I miss any other Canadian sites? Thanks. Take care, Graham J. Murphy "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." Stanislaw Lem ---------------------- Dr. Graham J. Murphy Cultural Studies Department/ Department of English Trent University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ddavis at gdn.edu Fri Aug 24 08:47:13 2012 From: ddavis at gdn.edu (Davis, Doug) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:47:13 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] SFRA Conference in Toronto? In-Reply-To: <5036A62E.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> References: <5036A62E.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> Message-ID: <97021FFE-E964-4927-8FA4-411B6A471C1B@gdn.edu> Im not sure about the website, but there is a page in every conference program that lists all the previous locations. Do you have your Detroit program handy? Doug Davis, Ph.D. Editor, SFRA Review Associate Professor of English Division of Humanities Gordon State College 419 College Drive Barnesville, GA 30204 ddavis at gdn.edu (678) 359 5817 (office) (678) 359 5140 (fax) On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:53 PM, "Graham Murphy" > wrote: Hello Hive-mind, I coulda sworn there was a page on the SFRA website listing all the previous conference locations, but now I can't seem to find it (or it is so obvious I'm just missing it). I know the annual conference was held in Toronto in the 1970s at some point, but can someone narrow down the year? And since then the only Canadian locations have been St. Anne de Bellevue in 1992 and then Guelph in 2002? Did I miss any other Canadian sites? Thanks. Take care, Graham J. Murphy "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." Stanislaw Lem ---------------------- Dr. Graham J. Murphy Cultural Studies Department/ Department of English Trent University _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From ddavis at gdn.edu Fri Aug 24 08:54:07 2012 From: ddavis at gdn.edu (Davis, Doug) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:54:07 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] SFRA Conference in Toronto? In-Reply-To: <97021FFE-E964-4927-8FA4-411B6A471C1B@gdn.edu> References: <5036A62E.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> <97021FFE-E964-4927-8FA4-411B6A471C1B@gdn.edu> Message-ID: http://sfra.org/sites/all/files/SFRAprogram2012.pdf Page 2 Doug Davis, Ph.D. Editor, SFRA Review Associate Professor of English Division of Humanities Gordon State College 419 College Drive Barnesville, GA 30204 ddavis at gdn.edu (678) 359 5817 (office) (678) 359 5140 (fax) On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:47 AM, "Davis, Doug" > wrote: Im not sure about the website, but there is a page in every conference program that lists all the previous locations. Do you have your Detroit program handy? Doug Davis, Ph.D. Editor, SFRA Review Associate Professor of English Division of Humanities Gordon State College 419 College Drive Barnesville, GA 30204 ddavis at gdn.edu (678) 359 5817 (office) (678) 359 5140 (fax) On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:53 PM, "Graham Murphy" > wrote: Hello Hive-mind, I coulda sworn there was a page on the SFRA website listing all the previous conference locations, but now I can't seem to find it (or it is so obvious I'm just missing it). I know the annual conference was held in Toronto in the 1970s at some point, but can someone narrow down the year? And since then the only Canadian locations have been St. Anne de Bellevue in 1992 and then Guelph in 2002? Did I miss any other Canadian sites? Thanks. Take care, Graham J. Murphy "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." Stanislaw Lem ---------------------- Dr. Graham J. Murphy Cultural Studies Department/ Department of English Trent University _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From n.easterbrook at tcu.edu Fri Aug 24 12:05:52 2012 From: n.easterbrook at tcu.edu (Easterbrook, Neil) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:05:52 -0500 Subject: [SFRA-L] T.O. Message-ID: Graham-- BTW, Toronto would be a great place for an SFRA conference. If you do all the work to host, I promise to attend. I'll even take you on a tour of all my grandfather's failed businesses. --Neil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clan.rockwood at gmail.com Fri Aug 24 12:17:35 2012 From: clan.rockwood at gmail.com (Sue & Bruce Rockwood) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:17:35 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] T.O. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds good to me. Bruce Rockwood On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Easterbrook, Neil wrote: > Graham-- > > BTW, Toronto would be a great place for an SFRA conference. > > If you do all the work to host, I promise to attend. I'll even take you on > a tour of all my grandfather's failed businesses. > > --Neil > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > -- ""We believe we teach students before we teach subjects." And then we try to live that every day." - Chris Lehmann quoting Nel Noddings. Operor plures res. Nunquam trado navis navis. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll even take > you on a tour of all my grandfather's failed businesses. > > --Neil > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > From peter at halasz.ca Fri Aug 24 18:22:10 2012 From: peter at halasz.ca (Peter Halasz) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:22:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SFRA-L] T.O. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2641928.5242.1345846930780.JavaMail.root@halasz.ca> Grahan, If you would like/need help for a Toronto area SFRA please free free to contact me. Peter ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil Easterbrook" > To: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu > Sent: Friday, 24 August, 2012 12:05:52 PM > Subject: [SFRA-L] T.O. > > > > > > Graham-- > > BTW, Toronto would be a great place for an SFRA conference. > > If you do all the work to host, I promise to attend. I'll even take > you on a tour of all my grandfather's failed businesses. > > --Neil > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > From grahammurphy at trentu.ca Fri Aug 24 22:05:51 2012 From: grahammurphy at trentu.ca (Graham Murphy) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:05:51 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] T.O. In-Reply-To: <7470e5d877a39.50377f3f@uwo.ca> References: <74809ceb73a6e.5037b755@uwo.ca> <7470e5d877a39.50377f3f@uwo.ca> Message-ID: <5037FABF.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> Yep, no trip to T.O. is complete without visiting Silver Snail ... it is comic geek nirvana. If Neil isn't already a comic book fan he will be by the time we'd be done with him. Take care, Graham "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." Stanislaw Lem ---------------------- Dr. Graham J. Murphy Cultural Studies Department/ Department of English Trent University >>> Dominick Grace 8/24/2012 1:18 pm >>> And I'll take you not only to the Merril Collection, an excellent holding of SF texts in one of the branches of the Toronto Public Library (they have nice T-shirts, too), but also to one of the premiere comic book stores in North America. Dom On 08/24/12, "Easterbrook, Neil" wrote: Graham-- BTW, Toronto would be a great place for an SFRA ( ???????????? ) conference. If you do all the work to host, I promise to attend. I'll even take you on a tour of all my grandfather's failed businesses. --Neil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter at halasz.ca Fri Aug 24 22:23:28 2012 From: peter at halasz.ca (Peter Halasz) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SFRA-L] T.O. In-Reply-To: <5037FABF.E0F1.00A1.1@trentu.ca> Message-ID: <6139038.6215.1345861408406.JavaMail.root@halasz.ca> > Yep, no trip to T.O. is complete without visiting Silver Snail ... it > is comic geek nirvana. It moved just this past week to an upstairs Yonge Street location. Hope the change in location and space doesn't change the ... umm... ambiance. Peter ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Murphy" > To: "sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu" , "Dominick Grace" > Sent: Friday, 24 August, 2012 10:05:51 PM > Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] T.O. > > > > Yep, no trip to T.O. is complete without visiting Silver Snail ... it > is comic geek nirvana. If Neil isn't already a comic book fan he > will be by the time we'd be done with him. > > Take care, > Graham > > "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." > Stanislaw Lem > ---------------------- > Dr. Graham J. Murphy > Cultural Studies Department/ > Department of English > Trent University > > >>> Dominick Grace 8/24/2012 1:18 pm >>> > > And I'll take you not only to the Merril Collection, an excellent > holding of SF texts in one of the branches of the Toronto Public > Library (they have nice T-shirts, too), but also to one of the > premiere comic book stores in North America. > > Dom > On 08/24/12, "Easterbrook, Neil" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Graham-- > > BTW, Toronto would be a great place for an SFRA conference. > > If you do all the work to host, I promise to attend. I'll even take > you on a tour of all my grandfather's failed businesses. > > --Neil > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > From grahammurphy at trentu.ca Fri Aug 24 23:38:01 2012 From: grahammurphy at trentu.ca (Graham Murphy) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 23:38:01 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] T.O. Message-ID: <50381059020000A10002B102@trentmail.trentu.ca> Well that doesn't bode well ... the days of comic book stores may be numbered. While I have a select series of titles I collect in print, I'm increasingly using the comixology site and their app on my iPod/iPad to collect and read titles, especially as they tend to be cheaper than the print version and the cloud doesn't take up room in my office. We'll see.... Graham "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." Stanislaw Lem ---------------------- Dr. Graham J. Murphy Cultural Studies Department/ Department of English Trent University >>> Peter Halasz 08/24/12 10:33 PM >>> > Yep, no trip to T.O. is complete without visiting Silver Snail ... it > is comic geek nirvana. It moved just this past week to an upstairs Yonge Street location. Hope the change in location and space doesn't change the ... umm... ambiance. Peter ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Murphy" > To: "sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu" , "Dominick Grace" > Sent: Friday, 24 August, 2012 10:05:51 PM > Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] T.O. > > > > Yep, no trip to T.O. is complete without visiting Silver Snail ... it > is comic geek nirvana. If Neil isn't already a comic book fan he > will be by the time we'd be done with him. > > Take care, > Graham > > "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." > Stanislaw Lem > ---------------------- > Dr. Graham J. Murphy > Cultural Studies Department/ > Department of English > Trent University > > >>> Dominick Grace 8/24/2012 1:18 pm >>> > > And I'll take you not only to the Merril Collection, an excellent > holding of SF texts in one of the branches of the Toronto Public > Library (they have nice T-shirts, too), but also to one of the > premiere comic book stores in North America. > > Dom > On 08/24/12, "Easterbrook, Neil" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Graham-- > > BTW, Toronto would be a great place for an SFRA conference. > > If you do all the work to host, I promise to attend. I'll even take > you on a tour of all my grandfather's failed businesses. > > --Neil > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Murphy > Cultural Studies Department/ > Department of English > Trent University > > >>> Dominick Grace 8/24/2012 1:18 pm >>> > > And I'll take you not only to the Merril Collection, an excellent holding of SF texts in one of the branches of the Toronto Public Library (they have nice T-shirts, too), but also to one of the premiere comic book stores in North America. > > Dom > > On 08/24/12, "Easterbrook, Neil" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Graham-- > > > > BTW, Toronto would be a great place for an SFRA conference. > > > > If you do all the work to host, I promise to attend. I'll even take you on a tour of all my grandfather's failed businesses. > > > > --Neil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Grahammurphy at trentu.ca Sat Aug 25 09:31:17 2012 From: Grahammurphy at trentu.ca (Graham Murphy) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:31:17 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] T.O. Message-ID: <50389B65020000A10002B137@trentmail.trentu.ca> I haven't been there myself ... maybe you'll have to bring both of us. A new nirvana? Graham "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." Stanislaw Lem ---------------------- Dr. Graham J. Murphy Cultural Studies Department/ Department of English Trent University >>> Dominick Grace 08/25/12 00:24 AM >>> I was thinking of The Beguiliong, actually, but the Snail's pretty good, too! Dom On 08/24/12, Graham Murphy wrote: > > > > > Yep, no trip to T.O. is complete without visiting Silver Snail ... it is comic geek nirvana. If Neil isn't already a comic book fan he will be by the time we'd be done with him. > > Take care, > Graham > > "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." > Stanislaw Lem > ---------------------- > Dr. Graham J. Murphy > Cultural Studies Department/ > Department of English > Trent University > > >>> Dominick Grace 8/24/2012 1:18 pm >>> > > And I'll take you not only to the Merril Collection, an excellent holding of SF texts in one of the branches of the Toronto Public Library (they have nice T-shirts, too), but also to one of the premiere comic book stores in North America. > > Dom > > On 08/24/12, "Easterbrook, Neil" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Graham-- > > > > BTW, Toronto would be a great place for an SFRA conference. > > > > If you do all the work to host, I promise to attend. I'll even take you on a tour of all my grandfather's failed businesses. > > > > --Neil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From dgrace2 at uwo.ca Sat Aug 25 10:37:27 2012 From: dgrace2 at uwo.ca (Dominick Grace) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 10:37:27 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] T.O. In-Reply-To: <50389B65020000A10002B137@trentmail.trentu.ca> References: <50389B65020000A10002B137@trentmail.trentu.ca> Message-ID: <7710dca3604cc.5038aae7@uwo.ca> Anyone who wants to go! (And it's The Beguiling, not the Beguiliong *sigh*) Dom On 08/25/12, Graham Murphy wrote: > I haven't been there myself ... maybe you'll have to bring both of us. A new nirvana? > > Graham > > "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." > Stanislaw Lem > ---------------------- > Dr. Graham J. Murphy > Cultural Studies Department/ > Department of English > Trent University > >>> Dominick Grace 08/25/12 00:24 AM >>> > I was thinking of The Beguiliong, actually, but the Snail's pretty good, too! > > Dom > > On 08/24/12, Graham Murphy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yep, no trip to T.O. is complete without visiting Silver Snail ... it is comic geek nirvana. If Neil isn't already a comic book fan he will be by the time we'd be done with him. > > > > Take care, > > Graham > > > > "Science explains the world, but only Art can reconcile us to it." > > Stanislaw Lem > > ---------------------- > > Dr. Graham J. Murphy > > Cultural Studies Department/ > > Department of English > > Trent University > > > > >>> Dominick Grace 8/24/2012 1:18 pm >>> > > > > And I'll take you not only to the Merril Collection, an excellent holding of SF texts in one of the branches of the Toronto Public Library (they have nice T-shirts, too), but also to one of the premiere comic book stores in North America. > > > > Dom > > > > On 08/24/12, "Easterbrook, Neil" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graham-- > > > > > > BTW, Toronto would be a great place for an SFRA conference. > > > > > > If you do all the work to host, I promise to attend. 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Conference papers might consider specific adaptations, adaptation theory, translation, elision and interpolation, postmodern pastiche, transformation and metafictionality, plagiarism and homage, audience and adaptation, franchise fiction, or the recent resurgence of reboots, retcons, remakes, and reimaginings. Guests of Honor: Neil Gaiman and Kij Johnson Guest Scholar: Constance Penley We welcome paper proposals on all aspects of the fantastic, and especially encourage papers on the work of our special guests and attending authors. Please see our website at www.iafa.org for information about how to propose panel sessions or participate in creative programming at the conference. Paper proposals must consist of a 500-word proposal accompanied by an appropriate bibliography, and a 300-word abstract. Please send them to the appropriate Division Head below. The deadline for submissions is October 31, 2012. Participants will be notified by November 15, 2012, if they are accepted to the conference. Attendees may present only one paper at the conference and should not submit to multiple divisions. If you are uncertain as to which Division you should submit your proposal, please contact Sherryl Vint (sherryl.vint at gmail.com). DIVISIONS Children?s and Young Adult Literature and Art Alaine Martaus Fantasy Literature Stefan Ekman Film and Television Kyle Bishop Horror Literature Rhonda Brock-Servais International Fantastic Rachel Haywood Ferreira Science Fiction Literature David M. Higgins Visual and Performing Arts and Audiences Isabella van Elferin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n.easterbrook at tcu.edu Mon Aug 27 15:41:11 2012 From: n.easterbrook at tcu.edu (Easterbrook, Neil) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:41:11 -0500 Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand Message-ID: Ok, this one's a stretch for an sf research group. Apologies. But two of Rand's three novels have snfal elements, and one is explicitly sf. Moreover, many people (not me, I need to say) found Rand their springboard into both sf and into a literature of ideas. And given US politics, she's much in the news. This is just devastating: http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/2012/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/ The particular slant has to do with Rand's contribution to philosophy, but I continue to think that philosophical thot is central to sf's project. --Neil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clan.rockwood at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 16:30:08 2012 From: clan.rockwood at gmail.com (Sue & Bruce Rockwood) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:30:08 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One could explore her links, such as they are, to today's libertarian strand in SF and contemporary politics. I have noticed some discussion of SF on the libertarian legal blog "The Volokh Conspiracy" you may wish to check out from time to time. http://www.volokh.com/ I'd say her view of capitalism is not very positive or practical, but if one wanted to take the time to deconstruct her work (I do not) a useful counterpoint could be found in many of Philip K. Dick's works and in Sinclair Lewis' It Can't Happen Here. And then compare her views to DVD documentaries like The Corporation and The Koch Brothers Exposed. On the other hand, we seem to privatizing our space program under Obama, in a way that reminds me of Heinlein's "The Man Who Sold the Moon." These are all part of the cultural mix, but at bottom I think citing Ayn Rand just gives right-wing politicians the fake intellectual gloss they need for protecting the .01%. If they succeed we may wind up with a future dystopia of the sort often seen in SF too! Bruce Rockwood On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Easterbrook, Neil wrote: > Ok, this one's a stretch for an sf research group. Apologies. But two of > Rand's three novels have snfal elements, and one is explicitly sf. > Moreover, many people (not me, I need to say) found Rand their > springboard into both sf and into a literature of ideas. > > And given US politics, she's much in the news. > > This is just devastating: > http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/2012/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/ > > The particular slant has to do with Rand's contribution to philosophy, > but I continue to think that philosophical thot is central to sf'sproject. > > --Neil > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > -- ""We believe we teach students before we teach subjects." And then we try to live that every day." - Chris Lehmann quoting Nel Noddings. Operor plures res. Nunquam trado navis navis. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dedalus.jmmr at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 16:37:46 2012 From: dedalus.jmmr at gmail.com (Jorge Martins Rosa) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:37:46 +0100 Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ayn Rand foundations and societies. Isn't that... well... a bit anti-Ayn-Randy? :D Jorge M. Martins Rosa On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Easterbrook, Neil wrote: > Ok, this one's a stretch for an sf research group. Apologies. But two of > Rand's three novels have snfal elements, and one is explicitly sf. Moreover, > many people (not me, I need to say) found Rand their springboard into both > sf and into a literature of ideas. > > And given US politics, she's much in the news. > > This is just devastating: > http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/2012/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/ > > The particular slant has to do with Rand's contribution to philosophy, but I > continue to think that philosophical thot is central to sf's project. > > --Neil > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > From clan.rockwood at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 16:52:17 2012 From: clan.rockwood at gmail.com (Sue & Bruce Rockwood) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:52:17 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I also found a reference to Ayn Rand on the lberal or progressive blog Balkinization: Saturday, August 18, 2012 * Tongue-Twister * Ken Kersch Say it ten times fast: ?Ryan is Rand to Romney?s Roark? * Posted 1:33 PM by Ken Kersch [link] http://balkin.blogspot.com/ * On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Jorge Martins Rosa wrote: > Ayn Rand foundations and societies. Isn't that... well... a bit > anti-Ayn-Randy? > :D > > Jorge M. Martins Rosa > > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Easterbrook, Neil > wrote: > > Ok, this one's a stretch for an sf research group. Apologies. But two of > > Rand's three novels have snfal elements, and one is explicitly sf. > Moreover, > > many people (not me, I need to say) found Rand their springboard into > both > > sf and into a literature of ideas. > > > > And given US politics, she's much in the news. > > > > This is just devastating: > > > http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/2012/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/ > > > > The particular slant has to do with Rand's contribution to philosophy, > but I > > continue to think that philosophical thot is central to sf's project. > > > > --Neil > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SFRA-L mailing list > > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing list > SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > -- ""We believe we teach students before we teach subjects." 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I urgeyou not to work for or advocate his nomination, and not to vote for him. Myreasons are as follows: Mr. Reagan is not a champion of capitalism, but aconservative in the worst sense of that word?i.e., an advocate of a mixedeconomy with government controls slanted in favor of business rather thanlabor? This description applies in various degrees to most Republicanpoliticians, but most of them preserve some respect for the rights of theindividual. Mr. Reagan does not: he opposes the right to abortion. Another thing I find strange is that comtemporary "progressives" and conservatives alike take an utterly Manichaean view of the election this year. It's like Jesus versus Satan. A piece last week in Reason, which is a libertarian but definitely not a Randian organ, takes Obama to task on civil rights, but warns that Romney could be even worse: http://reason.com/archives/2012/08/23/the-candidates-vs-the-bill-of-rights If the ARI were honest, it would admit that "most Republicans" no longer respect the rights of the individual ? banning abortion even in cases of rape and incest, has become their litmus test. As for crony capitalism (which Rand opposed), we need look no further than Haliburton, which got a no-bid contract under Bush and received lavish bonuses for doing a lousy job (including faulty wiring for showers that electocuted soldiers). I could go on about this, but I don't want to clutter the board too much about stuff that isn't about science fiction per se. I'll go on about that, including Rand, in updating my sf history. --J.J.P. ------------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: Easterbrook, Neil [mailto:n.easterbrook at tcu.edu] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 03:41 PM To: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand Ok, this one's a stretch for an sf research group. Apologies. But two of Rand's three novels have snfal elements, and one is explicitly sf. Moreover, many people (not me, I need to say) found Rand their springboard into both sf and into a literature of ideas. And given US politics, she's much in the news. This is just devastating:http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/2012/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/ The particular slant has to do with Rand's contribution to philosophy, but I continue to think that philosophical thot is central to sf's project. --Neil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryantatenichols at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 20:27:42 2012 From: ryantatenichols at gmail.com (Ryan Nichols) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:27:42 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] re Ayn Rand's politics Message-ID: <2C900132-BD1B-40B0-82BF-CEB8A5043739@gmail.com> RE Ayn Rand: I thought the piece to which Neil linked rather biased, though it makes some good points, especially about 2 or 3000 words through (ugh), once the author starts recapitulating Nozick's critique of Rand. But I detected very little actual argumentation by the author (of the author's) for conclusions to the effect that 'Ayn Rand's political beliefs are false' or anything like that. Despite being well-informed about what's happening in the philosophical world, the piece commits several informal fallacies, for example, by condemning her political beliefs by virtue of associating them with the rich as in this comment: "The fantastically rich find in Rand?s celebration of individual achievement a kindred spirit, and support her work with pecuniary enthusiasm." So since rich people think she's correct is an argument or reason to think that her views are false? We're told that professional philosophers taking an online poll at the Leiter Blog rated her as the one person who brings the most disrepute on the discipline. So um it obviously follows by the deductive rules of inference that her political views are false? Ugh. Nick McGinnis, the author, is a grad student in philosophy, and we know they are not subject to any cognitive bias. What's especially weird about this is that, later, the author appears to discredit Rand's political beliefs by associating them with, not the rich, but everyone when writing that a "Library of Congress survey placed Atlas Shrugged as the second-most influential book in America". Since most people are stupid, favorite books by most people--the Bible being #1--are stupid. Or something like that. The author commits some ad hominem fallacies en route to his take-down. For example, Ayn Rand was an arrogant bitch therefore her political beliefs are false--or something much like this. On the whole, seriously disappointing if considered as a serious criticism of Rand's philosophy--with the exception of repeating Nozick's astute criticisms. I may or may not be a Randian (shouldn't matter) but my present goal is only to serve up some critical thinking about an issue--Rand's political beliefs--that all sorts of pundits are either praising or condemning w/o critical thinking. All-you-can-cogitate critical thinking. Now coming to you from University of British Columbia! (Hey Nolan, I'm going to UBC on a fellowship. Come visit!) Ryan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From classentok at aol.com Mon Aug 27 21:58:24 2012 From: classentok at aol.com (jim warner) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CF52D7BE003492-B1C-3370A@webmail-m075.sysops.aol.com> One current book that comes to mind is "Freehold", by Michael Z. Williamson, which is explicitly libertarian in the tradition of "Moon is a Harsh Mistress". Jim Warner -----Original Message----- From: Sue & Bruce Rockwood To: Easterbrook, Neil Cc: sfra-l Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2012 3:30 pm Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] ayn rand One could explore her links, such as they are, to today's libertarian strand in SF and contemporary politics. I have noticed some discussion of SF on the libertarian legal blog "The Volokh Conspiracy" you may wish to check out from time to time. http://www.volokh.com/ I'd say her view of capitalism is not very positive or practical, but if one wanted to take the time to deconstruct her work (I do not) a useful counterpoint could be found in many of Philip K. Dick's works and in Sinclair Lewis' It Can't Happen Here. And then compare her views to DVD documentaries like The Corporation and The Koch Brothers Exposed. On the other hand, we seem to privatizing our space program under Obama, in a way that reminds me of Heinlein's "The Man Who Sold the Moon." These are all part of the cultural mix, but at bottom I think citing Ayn Rand just gives right-wing politicians the fake intellectual gloss they need for protecting the .01%. If they succeed we may wind up with a future dystopia of the sort often seen in SF too! Bruce Rockwood On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Easterbrook, Neil wrote: Ok, this one's a stretch for an sf research group. Apologies. But two of Rand's three novels have snfal elements, and one is explicitly sf. Moreover, many people (not me, I need to say) found Rand their springboard into both sf and into a literature of ideas. And given US politics, she's much in the news. This is just devastating:http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/2012/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/ The particular slant has to do with Rand's contribution to philosophy, but I continue to think that philosophical thot is central to sf's project. --Neil _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -- ""We believe we teach students before we teach subjects." And then we try to live that every day." - Chris Lehmann quoting Nel Noddings. Operor plures res. 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URL: From clan.rockwood at gmail.com Tue Aug 28 16:21:49 2012 From: clan.rockwood at gmail.com (Sue & Bruce Rockwood) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:21:49 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand In-Reply-To: <8CF52D7BE003492-B1C-3370A@webmail-m075.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CF52D7BE003492-B1C-3370A@webmail-m075.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Another reference to Ayn Rand in our politics from The Nation blog just now, http://www.thenation.com/blogs/katrina-vanden-heuvel : "As George Zornick observedMonday, the current GOP House has ?consistently played dangerous politics with disaster relief funds and slashed the budgets of storm monitoring agencies, thereby executing the same small-government-at-all-costs mentality that led to widespread destruction in New Orleans.? The storm wasn?t the only reality to intrude on the GOP?s Ayn Rand fantasy in 2008. A month before the convention, two vehicles were hit by a 1,200-pound piece of concrete that fell off of a bridge in St. Paul; a year before, thirteen people had died when a Minneapolis bridge collapsed. While the tragedy drew attention from some congressional Democrats, *Politico* reported in the lead-up to the ?08 convention that Republicans were literally steering clear of the bridge?s reconstruction in planning their event. The following year, the American Society of Civil Engineers issued its quadrennial report card on America?s Infrastructure. Overall Grade: D. Particularly shameful in all this is the role of the Chamber of Commerce: vocal and generous in its support for the GOP?s low-tax, no-regulation agenda, timid and perfunctory in its defense of infrastructure spending. Maybe that?s one reason local affiliates are defecting ." Meanwhile, while we await private sector success in replacing our mothballed space shuttle we are relying on Russia to get astronauts and supplies to and from the Space Station, and not investing in space exploration. Would Ayn Rand like the fact we are relying on private enterprise for our space program (and back Obama) or oppose our reliance on Russia in the interim? Interesting situation. I share the late Neil Armstrong's view that we should have kept on building on the successes of the Apollo program. Bruce Rockwood On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:58 PM, jim warner wrote: > One current book that comes to mind is "Freehold", by Michael Z. > Williamson, which is explicitly libertarian in the tradition of "Moon is a > Harsh Mistress". > > Jim Warner > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue & Bruce Rockwood > To: Easterbrook, Neil > Cc: sfra-l > Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2012 3:30 pm > Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] ayn rand > > One could explore her links, such as they are, to today's libertarian > strand in SF and contemporary politics. I have noticed some discussion of > SF on the libertarian legal blog "The Volokh Conspiracy" you may wish to > check out from time to time. http://www.volokh.com/ > I'd say her view of capitalism is not very positive or practical, but if > one wanted to take the time to deconstruct her work (I do not) a useful > counterpoint could be found in many of Philip K. Dick's works and in > Sinclair Lewis' It Can't Happen Here. And then compare her views to DVD > documentaries like The Corporation and The Koch Brothers Exposed. > On the other hand, we seem to privatizing our space program under Obama, > in a way that reminds me of Heinlein's "The Man Who Sold the Moon." These > are all part of the cultural mix, but at bottom I think citing Ayn Rand > just gives right-wing politicians the fake intellectual gloss they need for > protecting the .01%. If they succeed we may wind up with a future dystopia > of the sort often seen in SF too! > > Bruce Rockwood > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Easterbrook, Neil wrote: > >> Ok, this one's a stretch for an sf research group. Apologies. But two >> of Rand's three novels have snfal elements, and one is explicitly sf. >> Moreover, many people (not me, I need to say) found Rand their >> springboard into both sf and into a literature of ideas. >> >> And given US politics, she's much in the news. >> >> This is just devastating: >> http://www.rotman.uwo.ca/2012/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/ >> >> The particular slant has to do with Rand's contribution to philosophy, >> but I continue to think that philosophical thot is central to sf'sproject. >> >> --Neil >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SFRA-L mailing list >> SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l >> >> > > > -- > ""We believe we teach students before we teach subjects." And then we try > to live that every day." > - Chris Lehmann quoting Nel Noddings. > > Operor plures res. > Nunquam trado navis navis. > > > _______________________________________________ > SFRA-L mailing listSFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.eduhttp://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l > > -- ""We believe we teach students before we teach subjects." And then we try to live that every day." - Chris Lehmann quoting Nel Noddings. Operor plures res. Nunquam trado navis navis. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n.easterbrook at tcu.edu Tue Aug 28 19:24:45 2012 From: n.easterbrook at tcu.edu (Easterbrook, Neil) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:24:45 -0500 Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: My apologies to everyone for my initial post. I ought to have understood it might precipitate partisan wrangling, whether dressed in the rhetoric of reason or not. It was a moment of exuberance that moved me, and since I've been writing on the topic, I lost my sense of, ahem, objectivism. Again, apologies. --Neil ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com Tue Aug 28 21:02:33 2012 From: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com (pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 01:02:33 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand Message-ID: She sure is a third rail. But I've noticed that a lot of her critics apply a double standard. There've been a lot of posts here and there, for example, about how she tried to make a Nietzchean hero out of William Hickman, a child killer, in notes for a projected novel back in 1928. Although she insisted that he was NOT going to be a model for the hero of her novel, her excuses for him were practically like those of liberals -- he was just a victim of society, and the people who comdemned him wwre expressing only the mass-hatred of the majority for what we might now call the Other. Rand changed her mind later, without admitting it, and produced Howard Roark -- who I think was her best character in her best novel (AS was, among other things entirely too self-indulgent, and although I consider myself a libertarian, I have all kinds of issues with her.). Cut to some decades later. Norman Mailer campaigned for the release of Jack Henry Abbott, who'd written a book about the injustice of the System, and killed a man shortly after he got out. He was criticized for this at the time, but I don't think he's as much a pariah as Rand -- who never actually campaigned for the release of Hickman, or for Leopold and Loeb, or any others of their ilk in later years when she might have been listened to. (I leraned only recently that Susan Sarandon had named a son "Jack Henry" after Abbott. Way to go!). Austrian playwright and novelist Elfriede Jelinik took part in a campaign for the release of Johnann Unterweger, who had been sent up for murdering a woman and (like Abbott) written a cri de coeur. After she helped get him sprung, he went on a killing spree, but that didn't stop Jelinik from gettimg a Nobel prize after he was caught for the second time. Her role is referred to in his Wikipedia entry, but not in hers. I think there's an issue here that goes beyond Rand, or any other personalities. It's the one George Orwell discussed in "Notes on Nationalism" (http://orwell.ru/library/essays/nationalism/english/e_nat). Orwell admitted that "nationalism" wasn't quite the right term for it, couldn't think of a better one. I think I may have a better one, since his argument is against ideological blindness and double standards of all sorts. How about just Ismism? --J.J.P. @font-face { font-family: "Times New Roman";}@font-face { font-family: "Courier New";}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }span.MsoEndnoteReference { vertical-align: super; }p.MsoEndnoteText, li.MsoEndnoteText, div.MsoEndnoteText { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }p.MsoPlainText, li.MsoPlainText, div.MsoPlainText { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New"; }table.MsoNormalTable { font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; } -----Original Message----- From: Easterbrook, Neil [mailto:n.easterbrook at tcu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 07:24 PM To: 'Sue & Bruce Rockwood' Cc: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] ayn rand My apologies to everyone for my initial post. I ought to have understood it might precipitate partisan wrangling, whether dressed in the rhetoric of reason or not. It was a moment of exuberance that moved me, and since I've been writing on the topic, I lost my sense of, ahem, objectivism. Again, apologies. --Neil ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeller at iupui.edu Wed Aug 29 09:16:43 2012 From: jeller at iupui.edu (Jon Eller) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:16:43 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: As the Ayn Rand discussion winds down, it might be useful to offer a comment related to the fields of science fiction and fantasy. As it turns out, Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead was one of the great early influences on Ray Bradbury's approach to writing. During the years that I worked with him on Becoming Ray Bradbury, I was often fascinated by his reaction to her novel; it wasn't her Modernist aesthetic stance, or her philosophical system of Objectivism, that attracted him: "I needed to believe in my own character, to hold still in spite of people doubting me, or [doubting] me being a science fiction writer-and I wasn't really a science fiction writer anyway. I was a fantasy writer, and most of my stuff that established my career was in Weird Tales....So when I read The Fountainhead, it gave me courage to just stand and say to people, 'Go away and leave me alone'." Bradbury, age 24, read The Fountainhead when it came out in 1944, and and he found parallels between the emotions of Rand's architect Howard Roark and his own responses to the pressures of agents, editors, and publishers who wanted to bend him to formula writing. It was the right book at the right time for him, solely in terms of plot and character. Jon Jonathan R. Eller, Professor of English Senior Textual Editor, Institute for American Thought Director, Center for Ray Bradbury Studies General Editor, Collected Stories of Ray Bradbury Textual Editor, Writings of Charles S. Peirce Textual Editor, Works of George Santayana Indiana University School of Liberal Arts At 6:24 PM -0500 8/28/12, Easterbrook, Neil wrote: >Content-Language: en-US >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="_000_E7642732E5FEDA4EAFBB9213012893010124F280346DFSMAILCL2tc_" > >My apologies to everyone for my initial post. I ought to have >understood it might precipitate partisan wrangling, whether dressed >in the rhetoric of reason or not. > >It was a moment of exuberance that moved me, and since I've been >writing on the topic, I lost my sense of, ahem, objectivism. > >Again, apologies. > >--Neil > > > >_______________________________________________ >SFRA-L mailing list >SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu >http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -- From pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com Wed Aug 29 14:48:19 2012 From: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com (pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:48:19 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand Message-ID: That really startled me. It usually seems to be a given that people either love or hate Rand for strictly ideological reasons. I was planning to get your book anyway, so I got around to ordering it today -- but not just for that reason, obviously. Bradbury was a very distinctive writer, not like anyone else. I suppose any writer worth his/her salt must be, and it is only those writers that we not only read faithfullt but want to read about. Cathy Young, who grew up in Russia, took a somewhat revisionist stance towards Rand in a recent op-ed piece: ?http://articles.boston.com/2012-08-23/opinion/33325224_1_ayn-rand-anti-altruism-flaws Much of what Rand wrote flies in the face of common sense, but the same goes for the ideologues of the left. We are expected to believe that either the individual has no use for society, or that society has no use for the individual. I have a couple of maxims in that regard: "We are neither solitary wasps nor worker bees," and "In a decent society, somebody's got your back without being on your back." --J.J.P. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Eller [mailto:jeller at iupui.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 09:16 AM To: 'Easterbrook, Neil', 'Sue & Bruce Rockwood' Cc: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] ayn rand As the Ayn Rand discussion winds down, it might be useful to offer a comment related to the fields of science fiction and fantasy.As it turns out, Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead was one of the great early influences on Ray Bradbury's approach to writing. During the years that I worked with him on Becoming Ray Bradbury, I was often fascinated by his reaction to her novel; it wasn't her Modernist aesthetic stance, or her philosophical system of Objectivism, that attracted him: "I needed to believe in my own character, to hold still in spite of people doubting me, or [doubting] me being a science fiction writer-and I wasn't really a science fiction writer anyway. I was a fantasy writer, and most of my stuff that established my career was in Weird Tales....So when I read The Fountainhead, it gave me courage to just stand and say to people, 'Go away and leave me alone'."Bradbury, age 24, read The Fountainhead when it came out in 1944, and and he found parallels between the emotions of Rand's architect Howard Roark and his own responses to the pressures of agents, editors, and publishers who wanted to bend him to formula writing. It was the right book at the right time for him, solely in terms of plot and character.JonJonathan R. Eller, Professor of EnglishSenior Textual Editor, Institute for American ThoughtDirector, Center for Ray Bradbury StudiesGeneral Editor, Collected Stories of Ray BradburyTextual Editor, Writings of Charles S. PeirceTextual Editor, Works of George SantayanaIndiana University School of Liberal ArtsAt 6:24 PM -0500 8/28/12, Easterbrook, Neil wrote:>Content-Language: en-US>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;> > boundary="_000_E7642732E5FEDA4EAFBB9213012893010124F280346DFSMAILCL2tc_">>My apologies to everyone for my initial post. I ought to have >understood it might precipitate partisan wrangling, whether dressed >in the rhetoric of reason or not.>>It was a moment of exuberance that moved me, and since I've been >writing on the topic, I lost my sense of, ahem, objectivism.>>Again, apologies.>>--Neil>>>>_______________________________________________>SFRA-L mailing list>SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu>http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l-- _______________________________________________SFRA-L mailing listSFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.eduhttp://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeller at iupui.edu Wed Aug 29 16:03:15 2012 From: jeller at iupui.edu (Jon Eller) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:03:15 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The more subtle appeal to individualism found in Aldous Huxley's After Many a Summer Dies the Swan was an earlier influence on Bradbury, but his 1944 reading of Rand's The Fountainhead provided a far more enduring creative model for him. That same year he read Arthur Koestler's Darkness at Noon, which inspired his own future confrontations with authoritarianism and, eventually, Fahrenheit 451. He read an amazing number of modern and contemporary writers between 1942 and 1944, and this experience had a significant effect on his development as a writer. Thanks for your comment about Ayn Rand; Ray's wartime reading provides many such surprises. Best, Jon Jonathan R. Eller, Professor of English Senior Textual Editor, Institute for American Thought Director, Center for Ray Bradbury Studies General Editor, Collected Stories of Ray Bradbury Textual Editor, Writings of Charles S. Peirce Textual Editor, Works of George Santayana Indiana University School of Liberal Arts At 6:48 PM +0000 8/29/12, pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com wrote: >That really startled me. It usually seems to be a given that people >either love or hate Rand for strictly ideological reasons. I was >planning to get your book anyway, so I got around to ordering it >today -- but not just for that reason, obviously. Bradbury was a >very distinctive writer, not like anyone else. I suppose any writer >worth his/her salt must be, and it is only those writers that we not >only read faithfullt but want to read about. > >Cathy Young, who grew up in Russia, took a somewhat revisionist >stance towards Rand in a recent op-ed piece: > >? > >http://articles.boston.com/2012-08-23/opinion/33325224_1_ayn-rand-anti-altruism-flaws > > >Much of what Rand wrote flies in the face of common sense, but the >same goes for the ideologues of the left. We are expected to believe >that either the individual has no use for society, or that society >has no use for the individual. I have a couple of maxims in that >regard: "We are neither solitary wasps nor worker bees," and "In a >decent society, somebody's got your back without being on your back." > >--J.J.P. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jon Eller [mailto:jeller at iupui.edu] >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 09:16 AM >To: 'Easterbrook, Neil', 'Sue & Bruce Rockwood' >Cc: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu >Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] ayn rand > >As the Ayn Rand discussion winds down, it might be useful to offer a >comment related to the fields of science fiction and fantasy. As it >turns out, Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead was one of the great early >influences on Ray Bradbury's approach to writing. During the years >that I worked with him on Becoming Ray Bradbury, I was often >fascinated by his reaction to her novel; it wasn't her Modernist >aesthetic stance, or her philosophical system of Objectivism, that >attracted him: "I needed to believe in my own character, to hold >still in spite of people doubting me, or [doubting] me being a >science fiction writer-and I wasn't really a science fiction writer >anyway. I was a fantasy writer, and most of my stuff that >established my career was in Weird Tales....So when I read The >Fountainhead, it gave me courage to just stand and say to people, >'Go away and leave me alone'." Bradbury, age 24, read The >Fountainhead when it came out in 1944, and and he found parallels >between the emotions of Rand's architect Howard Roark and his own >responses to the pressures of agents, editors, and publishers who >wanted to bend him to formula writing. It was the right book at the >right time for him, solely in terms of plot and character. Jon >Jonathan R. Eller, Professor of English Senior Textual Editor, >Institute for American Thought Director, Center for Ray Bradbury >Studies General Editor, Collected Stories of Ray Bradbury Textual >Editor, Writings of Charles S. Peirce Textual Editor, Works of >George Santayana Indiana University School of Liberal Arts At 6:24 >PM -0500 8/28/12, Easterbrook, Neil wrote: >Content-Language: >en-US >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > > boundary="_000_E7642732E5FEDA4EAFBB9213012893010124F280346DFSMAILCL2tc_" > >My >apologies to everyone for my initial post. I ought to >have >understood it might precipitate partisan wrangling, whether >dressed >in the rhetoric of reason or not. > >It was a moment of >exuberance that moved me, and since I've been >writing on the topic, >I lost my sense of, ahem, objectivism. > >Again, >apologies. > >--Neil > > > >_______________________________________________ >SFRA-L >mailing >list >SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu >http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l >-- _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing >list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu >http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -- From pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com Wed Aug 29 20:00:53 2012 From: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com (pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:00:53 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand Message-ID: But that maxim already existed. The ones I posted I made up myself, and a Google search doesn't indicate that anybody else already had. Back in 1987 I coined "the hubris of altruism" for one of my sf histories, regarding the kind of utopia imposed in the cause of some arbitrary "good," and some critic later cited me as a source. But another jibe I thought was original, "ideological wind-up toys," turned out to have been used in a review of an Allen Drury book 40 years or more ago. --J.J.P. -----Original Message----- From: peter brigg [mailto:pbrigg at uoguelph.ca] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 03:13 PM To: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] ayn rand Perhaps you could add to your maxims Ben Franklin's "Gentlemen, we must all hang together or we shall all hang separately." (at the signing of the Declaration) Peter home: 416-763-2263 cell:416-556-7156 ------------------------------------------------------------- On 2012-08-29, at 2:48 PM, pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com wrote: That really startled me. It usually seems to be a given that people either love or hate Rand for strictly ideological reasons. I was planning to get your book anyway, so I got around to ordering it today -- but not just for that reason, obviously. Bradbury was a very distinctive writer, not like anyone else. I suppose any writer worth his/her salt must be, and it is only those writers that we not only read faithfullt but want to read about. Cathy Young, who grew up in Russia, took a somewhat revisionist stance towards Rand in a recent op-ed piece: ?http://articles.boston.com/2012-08-23/opinion/33325224_1_ayn-rand-anti-altruism-flaws Much of what Rand wrote flies in the face of common sense, but the same goes for the ideologues of the left. We are expected to believe that either the individual has no use for society, or that society has no use for the individual. I have a couple of maxims in that regard: "We are neither solitary wasps nor worker bees," and "In a decent society, somebody's got your back without being on your back." --J.J.P. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Eller [mailto:jeller at iupui.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 09:16 AM To: 'Easterbrook, Neil', 'Sue & Bruce Rockwood' Cc:sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] ayn rand As the Ayn Rand discussion winds down, it might be useful to offer acomment related to the fields of science fiction and fantasy.As it turns out, Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead was one of the greatearly influences on Ray Bradbury's approach to writing. During theyears that I worked with him on Becoming Ray Bradbury, I was oftenfascinated by his reaction to her novel; it wasn't her Modernistaesthetic stance, or her philosophical system of Objectivism, thatattracted him: "I needed to believe in my own character, to holdstill in spite of people doubting me, or [doubting] me being ascience fiction writer-and I wasn't really a science fiction writeranyway. I was a fantasy writer, and most of my stuff that establishedmy career was in Weird Tales....So when I read The Fountainhead, itgave me courage to just stand and say to people, 'Go away and leaveme alone'."Bradbury, age 24, read The Fountainhead when it came out in 1944,and and he found parallels between the emotions of Rand's architectHoward Roark and his own responses to the pressures of agents,editors, and publishers who wanted to bend him to formula writing. Itwas the right book at the right time for him, solely in terms of plotand character.JonJonathan R. Eller, Professor of EnglishSenior Textual Editor, Institute for American ThoughtDirector, Center for Ray Bradbury StudiesGeneral Editor, Collected Stories of Ray BradburyTextual Editor, Writings of Charles S. PeirceTextual Editor, Works of George SantayanaIndiana University School of Liberal ArtsAt 6:24 PM -0500 8/28/12, Easterbrook, Neil wrote:>Content-Language: en-US>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;>> boundary="_000_E7642732E5FEDA4EAFBB9213012893010124F280346DFSMAILCL2tc_">>My apologies to everyone for my initial post. I ought to have>understood it might precipitate partisan wrangling, whether dressed>in the rhetoric of reason or not.>>It was a moment of exuberance that moved me, and since I've been>writing on the topic, I lost my sense of, ahem, objectivism.>>Again, apologies.>>--Neil>>>>_______________________________________________>SFRA-L mailing list>SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu>http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l--_______________________________________________SFRA-L mailing listSFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.eduhttp://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l_______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ErlichRD at MUOhio.edu Wed Aug 29 20:24:35 2012 From: ErlichRD at MUOhio.edu (Richard Erlich) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:24:35 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand tangent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6006C823-FA59-4DE8-8CE6-E1AD349148CC@MUOhio.edu> On 29/08/2012, at 17:00, pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com wrote: > But that maxim already existed. The ones I posted I made up myself, and a Google search doesn't indicate that anybody else already had. Back in 1987 I coined "the hubris of altruism" for one of my sf histories, regarding the kind of utopia imposed in the cause of some arbitrary "good," and some critic later cited me as a source. But another jibe I thought was original, "ideological wind-up toys," turned out to have been used in a review of an Allen Drury book 40 years or more ago. > > --J.J.P. > It might make for a useful values-clarification exercise off on this tangent to consider whether one would most value maxims that were * original with a contemporary writer; * from a documented source from some famous occasion (e.g., B. Franklin at signing of Declaration of US Independence); * from an attributed source from some occasion, or just casually; * from the sayings hoard of traditional lore. It'd be like the exercise of whether to value Christopher Wren's St. Paul's over a Gothic Cathedral: The Architect as Hero vs. an arguably more communal effort (or so the clich? went when I was an undergrad [somewhat after the time of Wren and the cathedral builders]). Or auteur films vs. more collaborative movies, or a conducted orchestra vs. a more communal chamber group. Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: peter brigg [mailto:pbrigg at uoguelph.ca] > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 03:13 PM > To: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com > Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] ayn rand > > Perhaps you could add to your maxims Ben Franklin's "Gentlemen, we must all hang together or we shall all hang separately." (at the signing of the Declaration) > > > Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From APett at ric.edu Wed Aug 29 23:31:10 2012 From: APett at ric.edu (Pett, A William) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 23:31:10 -0400 Subject: [SFRA-L] ayn rand In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -Sounds like a good description of political novels of that era by Drury or practically any others of whatever political bent. Of course plenty of pop novels are wind-up toys (and still entertaining, depending on your mood and how much disposable time you have.l (I'd llike to think i originated "disposable time" but it's so obvious I don't imagine I did.) Bill Pett ________________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com [pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:00 PM To: peter brigg Cc: sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] ayn rand But that maxim already existed. The ones I posted I made up myself, and a Google search doesn't indicate that anybody else already had. Back in 1987 I coined "the hubris of altruism" for one of my sf histories, regarding the kind of utopia imposed in the cause of some arbitrary "good," and some critic later cited me as a source. But another jibe I thought was original, "ideological wind-up toys," turned out to have been used in a review of an Allen Drury book 40 years or more ago. --J.J.P. -----Original Message----- From: peter brigg [mailto:pbrigg at uoguelph.ca] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 03:13 PM To: pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] ayn rand Perhaps you could add to your maxims Ben Franklin's "Gentlemen, we must all hang together or we shall all hang separately." (at the signing of the Declaration) Peter home: 416-763-2263 cell: 416-556-7156 ------------------------------------------------------------- On 2012-08-29, at 2:48 PM, pierceqfpl at ewwpi.com wrote: That really startled me. It usually seems to be a given that people either love or hate Rand for strictly ideological reasons. I was planning to get your book anyway, so I got around to ordering it today -- but not just for that reason, obviously. Bradbury was a very distinctive writer, not like anyone else. I suppose any writer worth his/her salt must be, and it is only those writers that we not only read faithfullt but want to read about. Cathy Young, who grew up in Russia, took a somewhat revisionist stance towards Rand in a recent op-ed piece: http://articles.boston.com/2012-08-23/opinion/33325224_1_ayn-rand-anti-altruism-flaws Much of what Rand wrote flies in the face of common sense, but the same goes for the ideologues of the left. We are expected to believe that either the individual has no use for society, or that society has no use for the individual. I have a couple of maxims in that regard: "We are neither solitary wasps nor worker bees," and "In a decent society, somebody's got your back without being on your back." --J.J.P. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Eller [mailto:jeller at iupui.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 09:16 AM To: 'Easterbrook, Neil', 'Sue & Bruce Rockwood' Cc: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] ayn rand As the Ayn Rand discussion winds down, it might be useful to offer a comment related to the fields of science fiction and fantasy. As it turns out, Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead was one of the great early influences on Ray Bradbury's approach to writing. During the years that I worked with him on Becoming Ray Bradbury, I was often fascinated by his reaction to her novel; it wasn't her Modernist aesthetic stance, or her philosophical system of Objectivism, that attracted him: "I needed to believe in my own character, to hold still in spite of people doubting me, or [doubting] me being a science fiction writer-and I wasn't really a science fiction writer anyway. I was a fantasy writer, and most of my stuff that established my career was in Weird Tales....So when I read The Fountainhead, it gave me courage to just stand and say to people, 'Go away and leave me alone'." Bradbury, age 24, read The Fountainhead when it came out in 1944, and and he found parallels between the emotions of Rand's architect Howard Roark and his own responses to the pressures of agents, editors, and publishers who wanted to bend him to formula writing. It was the right book at the right time for him, solely in terms of plot and character. Jon Jonathan R. Eller, Professor of English Senior Textual Editor, Institute for American Thought Director, Center for Ray Bradbury Studies General Editor, Collected Stories of Ray Bradbury Textual Editor, Writings of Charles S. Peirce Textual Editor, Works of George Santayana Indiana University School of Liberal Arts At 6:24 PM -0500 8/28/12, Easterbrook, Neil wrote: >Content-Language: en-US >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="_000_E7642732E5FEDA4EAFBB9213012893010124F280346DFSMAILCL2tc_" > >My apologies to everyone for my initial post. I ought to have >understood it might precipitate partisan wrangling, whether dressed >in the rhetoric of reason or not. > >It was a moment of exuberance that moved me, and since I've been >writing on the topic, I lost my sense of, ahem, objectivism. > >Again, apologies. > >--Neil > > > >_______________________________________________ >SFRA-L mailing list >SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu >http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -- _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From shalabare at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 00:43:00 2012 From: shalabare at gmail.com (Sha LaBare) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:43:00 -0600 Subject: [SFRA-L] quick question re: extrapolation Message-ID: <503EEF54.1000801@gmail.com> Dear All, I can't find the journal Extrapolation on JSTOR. Anyone know off-hand what journal database I might find it in? Thanks in advance, Sha From vallen at iastate.edu Thu Aug 30 00:46:46 2012 From: vallen at iastate.edu (Allen, Virginia [ENGL]) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 04:46:46 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] quick question re: extrapolation In-Reply-To: <503EEF54.1000801@gmail.com> References: <503EEF54.1000801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <820E510FBA39CC4696E3ACDB529C97A73A6184A2@ITSDAG2D.its.iastate.edu> Source: Extrapolation [0014-5483] Full text: Full text available in Chadwyck PAO Collection 9 Available from 1959 until 2000 Note: Full text available in Gale Cengage Literature Resource Center Available from 1994 Full text available in MetaPress Liverpool University Press Available from 2002 volume: 43 issue:1 ? 2012 SFX by Ex Libris Inc. CrossRef Enabled ________________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu] on behalf of Sha LaBare [shalabare at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:43 PM To: sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu Subject: [SFRA-L] quick question re: extrapolation Dear All, I can't find the journal Extrapolation on JSTOR. Anyone know off-hand what journal database I might find it in? Thanks in advance, Sha _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From blbousfi at syr.edu Thu Aug 30 05:45:36 2012 From: blbousfi at syr.edu (Brenda Wendy Lee Bousfield) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:45:36 +0000 Subject: [SFRA-L] quick question re: extrapolation In-Reply-To: <820E510FBA39CC4696E3ACDB529C97A73A6184A2@ITSDAG2D.its.iastate.edu> References: <503EEF54.1000801@gmail.com>, <820E510FBA39CC4696E3ACDB529C97A73A6184A2@ITSDAG2D.its.iastate.edu> Message-ID: It is available, also, in full text in Literature Online (LION) and in Proquest. Wendy Bousfield ________________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu] on behalf of Allen, Virginia [ENGL] [vallen at iastate.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:46 AM To: Sha LaBare; sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu Subject: Re: [SFRA-L] quick question re: extrapolation Source: Extrapolation [0014-5483] Full text: Full text available in Chadwyck PAO Collection 9 Available from 1959 until 2000 Note: Full text available in Gale Cengage Literature Resource Center Available from 1994 Full text available in MetaPress Liverpool University Press Available from 2002 volume: 43 issue:1 ? 2012 SFX by Ex Libris Inc. CrossRef Enabled ________________________________________ From: sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu [sfra-l-bounces at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu] on behalf of Sha LaBare [shalabare at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:43 PM To: sfra-l at charlemagne.cddc.vt.edu Subject: [SFRA-L] quick question re: extrapolation Dear All, I can't find the journal Extrapolation on JSTOR. Anyone know off-hand what journal database I might find it in? Thanks in advance, Sha _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l From bradburymedia at yahoo.co.uk Thu Aug 30 04:51:32 2012 From: bradburymedia at yahoo.co.uk (Phil Nichols) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:51:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: [SFRA-L] quick question re: extrapolation In-Reply-To: <503EEF54.1000801@gmail.com> References: <503EEF54.1000801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1346316692.47218.YahooMailNeo@web29504.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Sha, I find it in EBSCOHost Humanities International Complete and also in Literature Online. - Phil Phil Nichols www.bradburymedia.co.uk ________________________________ From: Sha LaBare To: sfra-l at wiz.cath.vt.edu Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012, 5:43 Subject: [SFRA-L] quick question re: extrapolation Dear All, I can't find the journal Extrapolation on JSTOR.? Anyone know off-hand what journal database I might find it in? Thanks in advance, Sha _______________________________________________ SFRA-L mailing list SFRA-L at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sfra-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sherryl.vint at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 09:18:31 2012 From: sherryl.vint at gmail.com (Sherryl Vint) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:18:31 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] Reminder: Deadline Sept 14 for Eaton/SFRA Conference Message-ID: *Call for Papers** * *The 2013 Joint Eaton/SFRA Conference* *Science Fiction Media* *April 10-14, 2013* *Riverside Marriott Hotel* *Riverside, California* This conference?cosponsored by the Eaton Collection of Science Fiction and Fantasy (UC Riverside) and the Science Fiction Research Association?will examine science fiction in multiple media. The past several decades have witnessed an explosion in SF texts across the media landscape, from film and TV to comics and digital games. We are interested in papers that explore SF as a multimedia phenomenon, whether focusing on popular mass media, such as Hollywood blockbusters, or on niche and subcultural forms of expression, such as MUDs and vidding. We invite paper and panel proposals that focus on all forms of SF, including prose fiction, and that address (but are not limited to) the following topics: - Mainstream Hollywood vs. Global SF Cinema - SF Comics and Manga - SF Anime and Animation - SF on the Internet and the World Wide Web - Multimedia ?dispersed? SF narratives - Fandom, Cosplay, Mashups, and Remixing - Broadcast and Cable SF Television - SF Videogames - World?s Fairs, Theme Parks, and other ?Material? SF Media - Short-form SF film - Afrofuturism - SF and/in Music - SF Idiom and Imagery in Advertising - Webisodes and TV Games - SF Art and Illustration The conference will also feature the fourth *Science Fiction Studies* Symposium on the topic of ?SF Media(tions),? with speakers Mark Bould, Istvan Csicsery-Ronay, Jr., and Vivian Sobchack. Keynote speakers and special guests will be announced as they are confirmed; see the conference website at for periodic updates. Conference sessions will be held at the newly remodeled and centrally located Riverside Marriott Hotel, with rooms at a reduced conference rate ($109). For more about the hotel, see their website at . A block of rooms will also be available at a discount ($139) at the historic Mission Inn Hotel and Spa two blocks from the Marriott: . Rooms in both hotels are limited and will be available on a first-come, first-served basis. 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This takes place on a number of different levels. Firstly, the concept of the human is questioned on the genetic level through the creation of entities such as clones (Tranter and Statham 2007), cyborgs (Harraway 1991) and the admixed embryo (Karpin 2006, Travis 2011). Secondly, the human in science fiction is routinely questioned on the essential level through the use of language, will and rationality by non-human entities such as artificial intelligence (Solum 1992, Tranter 2007, Hubbard 2010) and Aliens in texts such as *District 9*, *The Matrix*, *Battlestar Galactica*. These narratives also raise trenchant questions about our own technological culture and what it means to be included or excluded from the realms of humanity. In this way science fiction can be seen as a cultural negotiation for ? and, in some instances reinterpretations of ? the human. *Themes addressed could include:* What can science fiction tell us about cultural perceptions of the human in terms of fluidity, embodiment or hierarchy? How does science fiction open up dialogue about law, enhancement and the post-human? Indeed are these themes unique to science fiction? How important is science fiction to understanding the future of humanity and human relations with technology? Are science fiction blockbusters necessarily conservative in their understandings, deployment or articulation of law and the human? How far do science fictive portrayals of the non-human alien correspond to national and international norms of alien and citizen? How do legal understandings of the human manifest themselves in science fiction? What is the relationship between law and science fiction or within specific science fiction franchises? Please send abstracts of 250 words to Kieran Tranter ( k.tranter at griffith.edu.au) or Mitchell Travis (m.travis at exeter.ac.uk) by the 10th October. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sherryl.vint at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 15:20:21 2012 From: sherryl.vint at gmail.com (Sherryl Vint) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:20:21 -0700 Subject: [SFRA-L] Science Fiction and Technoculture Studies Book Prize Message-ID: The Science Fiction and Technoculture Studies program at University of California, Riverside welcomes nominations for the SFTS book award. This prize honors an outstanding scholarly monograph that explores the intersection between popular culture and the sciences. We welcome submissions from a variety of disciplinary perspectives including cultural studies, the history of science, media studies, and the sociology of science. The award is established for the purpose of recognizing groundbreaking and exceptional contributions to the field. Books must be published in English between January 1 and December 31 2012; edited volumes as well as works by more than two authors are not eligible. The jury for the 2012 prize will be Rob Latham (University of California, Riverside), Patrick Sharp (California State University, Los Angeles), and Sherryl Vint (University of California, Riverside). The recipient will be announced at the joint Eaton/SFRA conference from April 11-14, 2013. Please send nominations for the book prize to Sherryl Vint at sherryl.vint at gmail.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: