[New-Poetry] "The Crisis of the Humanities Officially Arrives"
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Thu Oct 14 22:10:19 EDT 2010
>I'm against government subsidies, but since we
>can't avoid them, one I'd like to see would be a
>full-scale neurophysiology-based study of
>epistemology to determine just how people
>learn. It'd be interesting to see the results
>of a long-term study of a million or more people
>from birth to the age of fifty and try to
>analyze why some turn out well by their own
>standards and some don't, and why some turn out
>well by society's standards and some don't. I
>doubt that such a study would be feasible, or
>could cover all the variables that it'd have to,
>not to mention how politicians out for votes
>would allow any of the inevitably
>anti-egalitarian results to be widely known,
>much less acted upon by educational institutes.
It's not always subsidies. A lot of grants are
fees for service. Much of the basic research and
engineering that the government buys is performed by universities.
There's a lot of research on how people learn.
Turns out there's more than one way. No surprise
there. And of course a lot of variables, as you say.
Your idea for a grand fifty year study has a
bunch of fatal flaws, not least that studying why
someone "turns out well by society's standards"
would certainly influence the behavior of those
being studied. And the there's the question of
what that criterion means. Do poets qualify as
that kind of success? Does Donald Trump? Are
there maybe a whole lot of different answers?
>(I just read somewhere that some study showed
>that home-taught kids come out between the
>sixtieth percentile and eightieth percentile on
>the SATs--or whatever the main test is, the idea
>being that the home-taught have better
>educations than the publicly-taught, the
>possibility that smart people prefer
>home-teaching for their kids, who do better
>because of their genes, not their formal education, is not considered.)
Aghain, a bunch of variables. Home schoolers come
in basically two varieties, religious types who
want to protect their children from sin in the
form of, among other things, much of science, and
highly educated folks likely to have lots of
books in the house who have an income sufficient
to allow one parent to stay home. All that
attention may be good for a kid (except when it's
not), but also the level of accomplishment of the
parents is likely a factor in the children's
school success (or at least their success at
standardiized tests). I'd be willing to bet that
no matter how educated children of the educated
and professional do better than average, perhaps
as well as the home educated of the same class,
and that the home-schooled fundamentalist kids don't do as well.
But I'm not sure what you're advocating. Rousseauian education?
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New from Chax Press: Mark Weiss, As Landscape.
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"What a beautiful set of circumstances! What a
lovely concatenation of particulars. Here is the
poet alive in every sense of the word, and
through every one of his senses. Instead of
missing a beat or a part, Weiss fragments are
like Chekhovs short storiesthe more that gets
left out, the more they seem to contain
hear echoes from all the various
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[it] opens a window, not only
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M.G. Stephens, in Jacket.
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