[New-Poetry] remembering Kunitz
Mark Weiss
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Sun Nov 28 23:54:11 EST 2010
He was also well aware of the poetry he chose not
to acknowledge. As was his right.
At 09:59 PM 11/28/2010, you wrote:
>One interesting link between Stanley Kunitz and
>Gerald Stern is that they both had to wait a
>long time for recognition, and thus to join the
>world of the Poetry Establishment. Both
>eventually enjoyed what seem to us like long and
>laurel-filled careers, but both were in their
>fifties before they became well known.
>
>Kunitz won the Pulitzer in 1959 when he was 54
>years old; and Stern's first major press book,
>*Lucky Life*, appeared in 1977, when he was 52
>(he had a couple minuscule press pamphlets prior
>to that). *Lucky Life*'s back flap informs us
>that Gerald Stern was teaching then at Somerset
>County College in New Jersey--not exactly the
>Iowa Writers Workshop at that point.
>
>We look back now and think of them both,
>perhaps, as quintessential insiders, but that's
>at least an oversimplification. And each one, I
>think, carried the mindset of the outsider into
>the academy, when they finally made their marks there.
>
>Not sure that any of this has much to do with
>the work, of course. In any case, Kunitz was
>highly revered by poets like Roethke, Lowell,
>Kinnell, Rukeyser, and many younger figures; and
>served himself as a kind of father figure to
>many generations of younger writers.
>
>I for one am not inclined to dismiss him too
>readily. And I very much agree with Barry that
>about the art of poetry his knowledge of poetry
>seemed encyclopedic--at least if we're talking
>about the whole history of poetry, and not just
>the skirmishes of our own times.
>
>
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