[New-Poetry] Re: my unofficial survey

[Anny Ballardini]

This gives me the shivers, not specifically what Al Maginnes writes, but the
entire story on plagiarism. My high school students do the same and I
inevitably compare them with me when I was their age. I would have been
terrified to do something like that, not only, such an attitude shows me a
complete lack of pride. Some so-called contemporary poets also recycle and
steal wherever and whenever they can, and _really/fundamentally_ what is it
worth? What for? To impress ___me___??? Don't they have a little soul
somewhere that tells them they are not learning anything
/progressing/devolping?
They are stuck in their little black putrid ditch of ignorance.

On the other hand, and going back to school, with the teachers they
sometimes have, what can you expect from those students ...

I usually read in class a paper published by a university:
http://www.google.it/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=w33&ei=C4YGSsWmFsjDsgbT4qWsCA&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=plagiarism+university+of&spell=1

but the idea of having them sign a statement where they will receive a 2
(our evaluation goes from 1 to 10) could be a good idea. I will have to keep
it in mind at the beginning of next year.


On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 2:06 AM, <almaginnes at aol.com> wrote:

> In my argument based research class (I'm still trying to figure out how I
> got stuck with this one) I give an MLA exam early on and I hcange some of
> the questions every semester. This spring one little dear submitted an exam
> with the answers to last semester's questions on it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rsgwynn1 at cs.com
> To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
> Sent: Sat, 9 May 2009 6:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Re: my unofficial survey
>
> In a message dated 5/9/2009 4:54:09 PM Central Daylight Time,
> grahamd at ripon.edu writes:
>
>
>
> 'Tis the season for teachers to tell plagiarism &cheating stories. . . .
>
> Students keep coming up with new ways to amaze, it seems.  Couple years
> back I had a paper turned in, and the student didn't even bother to change
> the header.  There it was:  another course number, a different professor's
> name, and a date from the previous year.
>
>
> Which raises the perennial question of whether some students read their own
> papers, much less proofread them....
>
>
>
>
>
> I had a creative writing student turn in Millay's "Love Is Not All" for a
> sonnet assignment.  She'd made a few changes, including "Nor any *tube*for men about to sink," which I thought rather brilliant. When I confronted
> her, she first said she'd written it in the waiting room while her mother
> was dying.  I pointed out that it was in our anthology.  No response.
> Awhile later I got a phone call from her saying that actually her *sister*had written it.  Now this second excuse may well have been true, and I have
> had many jollies thinking about the confrontation between the two that
> evening.
>
> That was when I decided to have *all* of my students sign and return a
> statement at the beginning of the semester that acknowledged that *any*act of plagiarism would result in an F in the course.  Even with that, I've
> had a couple since.  They're never very hard to track down, of course.  Just
> Google a sentence or so and it'll come up on one of those "free" papers
> sites (most students are too cheap to actually *pay* for a paper).
>
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