[New-Poetry] Scanned

TheOldMole Opus40-01 at opus40.org
Sun May 3 13:22:17 EDT 2009


Yeah, but if you start with the premise of an accentual-syllabic line, 
can't you then chart the variations from that pattern? And at a certain 
point (which may change from reader to reader), aren't you going to say 
"too many variations -- this just doesn't scan"? Or "too many places 
where the accent wants to fall on the wrong syllable -- this just 
doesn't scan"?

David Graham wrote:
> I've never seen the experts agree on *any* specific scansion, I don't 
> think.  Which doesn't mean it's utterly arbitrary:  if someone calls a 
> 5 syllable foot an iamb they're just wrong.  But there is so much 
> disagreement about allowable substitutions (how loose is too loose); 
> what individual ears hear as stress; matters of regional accents; 
> changes of taste over time;  etc., that scansion often *seems* purely 
> arbitrary.  Not to mention the many competing systems of gridding-out 
> metrics. . . .
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> On May 3, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Chris Lott wrote:
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>> I'm curious about this-- can our resident experts come to agreement on
>>
>> the scansion of Baer's poem? Or is the whole process really as
>>
>> arbitrary as it feels?
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>> c
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