[New-Poetry] looking for poems (and other writing) on "the idea"

Chris Lott chris at chrislott.org
Sat May 2 17:38:58 EDT 2009


Bob-- you may just be kidding, but I don't really dislike your
poetics. In many ways I admire your project (to the extent I
understand it), even if I think it's doooooomed...

My only dislike it toward those who use attempts to create taxonomies
to derive blindly from them valuey systems and hierarchies that are
damaging and non-productive. But I lapse into that kind of thing
sometimes myself, so it's hard for me to get too worked up about it.

c

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Bob Grumman <bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net> wrote:
> I'm as interested in your subject, which seems to me to be epistemology, as
> I am in poetics, so have my theories that you will probably dislike as much
> as you do my poetics, Chris, but I thought I'd pipe in that I believe in
> innate concepts (which I call "urcepts") for circle, person, father, two and
> so forth, so wonder if in your reading you've come across any speculation as
> to the origins of a belief in ideas.  I particularly wonder what the first
> idea might have been.
>
> Incidentally, thanks for simply mentioning your project--because it got me
> thinking about the ideas we have that are not innate, and how, according to
> my theory they are formed.  I think they're simply generalities.  An idea of
> pig is simply all one's memories of pigs in a big clot with all the
> differences between the pigs involved becoming effaced with time until all
> that's left is a kind of pig-universal.  My newest thought is that the brain
> tags such universals, but I can't figure out how it recognizes them as such
> before tagging them.  Which has nothing to do with your project, just me
> solipsissing away.
>
> Whee, Bob
>
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