[New-Poetry] Does no one write good poetry criticism?
Bob Grumman
bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net
Fri Mar 27 19:53:26 EST 2009
jforjames at aol.com wrote:
> It seems Zapruder is asking critics to do a lot of hand-holding.
I think it a duty of critics to hold hands. Seems to me one goes to a
critic either for help, or to compare notes. And people do need help
with unconventional poetry.
> And, as far of critics who have mounted
> defenses of difficult work, has he missed all the excellent and
> thoughtful essays of Majorie Perloff?
Perloff is the only mainstreamer to got outside Wilshberia. She
deserves praise for that. I've read some of her stuff, even have a book
or two by her. Haven't seen any excellent essays, though.
--Bob G.
> Finnegan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Grumman <bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net>
> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:55 pm
> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Does no one write good poetry criticism?
>
> Michael Snider wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2009/3/25 TheOldMole <Opus40-01 at opus40.org <mailto:Opus40-01 at opus40.org>>
>>
>> Except Bob Grumman?
>>
>> http://www.poetryfoundation.org/journal/feature.html?id=186047
>>
>>
>> Maybe not!
>>
>> Does anyone else think it's a little weird that the guy associates
>> "narrative" and "conservative" on the one hand and "lyric" and
>> "experimental" on the other?
>>
>> Mike, bewildered.
> Strange piece, for me. I kept thinking I got the writer's drift, then
> lost it. Oddly, I was thinking about narrative and lyric as two
> distinct kinds of poems--but certainly not as conservative and
> "experimental." Narrative poets do seem to me more conservative than
> other poets, including lyric poets, but most lyric poets seem almost
> as conservative. The language poets are contemptuous of both
> narrative and lyricism. I'm big on lyricism but not on narrative.
>
> I think I may well be the sort of critic Zapruder is calling for, but
> I think it'd take him thirty years to realize it if he seriously
> wanted to find his kind of critic. He seems not to have much of a
> clue as to what's going on in poetry. Or poetry criticism.
>
> --Bob
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