[New-Poetry] Re: New-Poetry Digest, Vol 57, Issue 11
David Baratier
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Thu Mar 5 15:24:16 EST 2009
no!
Be well
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:12:17 -0600
> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Re: New-Poetry Digest, Vol 57,
> Issue 8
> To: editor at pavementsaw.org,
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> Hey, get off digest mode.
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>
> Hal
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:01 PM, David Baratier <editor at pavementsaw.org>wrote:
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> >
> > Hey--
> >
> > Everybody stop hitting the repeat / whole copy button,
> see below. I cannot
> > even tell what the new messages are.
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> > > From: new-poetry-request at wiz.cath.vt.edu
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> > > Subject: New-Poetry Digest, Vol 57, Issue 8
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> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > > 1. Re: Kindle 2 (Millicent Accardi)
> > > 2. Re: Kindle 2 (Halvard Johnson)
> > > 3. Re: Kindle 2 (Halvard Johnson)
> > > 4. Re: Kindle 2 (Jeff Newberry)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:27:58 -0500
> > > From: Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
> > > To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
> > > Message-ID: <8CB6BD73E621D03-AA0-CD9 at FWM-D25.sysops.aol.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > > Hey Jeff--
> > >
> > > I'm a luddite as well! No TV, no
> microwave.
> > >
> > > And I have to agree with you that nothing
> replaces books
> > > (at least not now).
> > >
> > > Like I said at the beginning of this discussion
> when Anny
> > > posed a question about the Kindle: it's great for
> travel and
> > > commuting and the backyard or beach. I think I
> use it about
> > > 10-20% and, the rest of the time, I still read
> regular
> > > books. At this point, my Kindle (which a prized
> possession)
> > > has not replaced the thousands of books that
> crowd my little
> > > shack in the canyon. It's an additional
> tool that, for
> > > me, is surprisingly useful.
> > >
> > > For someone who travels or goes on residencies or
> who has a
> > > long commute on a train, and wants to take decent
> reading
> > > material along, it's a great, light-weight
> tool.Â
> > >
> > > Before I left for Spain, I downloaded most of the
> books I
> > > needed for my writing project (those that were
> not avail
> > > thru Amazon, I shipped in a box). I also
> downloaded literary
> > > blogs, the Irish Times, the London Times and a
> bank of book
> > > reviews and The New Yorker. Since in EU
> whisper net is
> > > not available, I figured I would load up.Â
> It made my
> > > trip a lot lighter! And I felt rather
> stocked up on
> > > reading material in the airports I managed to be
> stuck
> > > inside.
> > >
> > > For me the Kindle (at this point) is to books as
> a bicycle
> > > is to a car.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Millicent
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jeff Newberry <jeff.newberry at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:06 am
> > > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Me? I20doubt I'll ever own one of these
> things. I'm
> > > still saving for a 1972 Fender Telecaster
> Reissue, and in
> > > this economy, that guitar is becoming more pipe
> dream and
> > > less something I'll actually own.
> > >
> > > But I'm and odd duck. I like the visceral
> quality of
> > > owning a book--the feel of the pages, the smell
> of the ink,
> > > the slight variances in font and spacing.Â
> I guess
> > > because I edit a college maagazine, I'm attuned
> to such
> > > qualities, though I doubt that I'm alone.
> > >
> > > I also like browsing in real bookstores, even if
> they are
> > > huge stores like Borders or B&N. I
> like picking up
> > > different books, paging through them, and
> skimming the
> > > contents. I like the subtle surprise of
> finding a book
> > > I'd not hear of, picking it up off the shelf, and
> being
> > > captivated. I like looking at covers and
> feeling the
> > > different kinds of textures that books have.
> > >
> > > I suppose that I'm an odd one, but (again) I
> refuse to
> > > believe that I am alone.
> > >
> > > If I ever owned a Kindle, it would be in addition
> to the
> > > books I own and will continue to buy.
> > >
> > > Ye olde luddite,
> > > Jeff Newberry
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Millicent
> Accardi <millb at aol.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > It's the same thing (to me) as sitting in a
> bookstore and
> > > leafing through a book I may want to buy.
> > >
> > > .. . .Yeah, Kindle is not perfect. Yeah, Amazon
> is a
> > > business not a university and needs to make
> money. Yeah,
> > > it's not like a mortar and pestle book store, but
> I think
> > > that being able to read or review a T of C and
> sample chapt
> > > ers is a very useful feature. I actually
> LIKE being
> > > able (in the quiet of my own home) to read sample
> chapters
> > > before I spend money on a book! In
> bookstores I always
> > > feel as if I am sneaking around doing that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Millicent
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > To: Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com>
> > > Cc: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 9:46 am
> > > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That's great, Mill. Nothing can save you money
> like sample
> > > chapters of
> > > a book you meant to buy.
> > >
> > > Hal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Millicent
> Accardi <millb at aol.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Hal
> > >
> > > You can see sample chapters at Amazon too. If you
> don't
> > > have a Kindle.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Millicent
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Or iginal Message-----
> > >
> > > From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com>
> > > Cc: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
> > > Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 9:15 am
> > > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Very hard work--when you don't have a Kindle,
> though.
> > >
> > > Hal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Millicent
> Accardi <millb at aol.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It may be a lot of work but you CAN download
> sample
> > > chapters on Kindle to see which edition you are
> getting.
> > >
> > > Although Kindle has a lot of blogs and popular
> novels,
> > > there is a fair amount of literary (new literary
> fiction)
> > > offered.
> > >
> > > At this point, Kindle is still in the early
> stages.Â
> > > when I got mine over a year ago, I was lucky
> there were a
> > > few hun
> > > dred books, now, there is a lot larger selection.
> Now,
> > > Kindle is not the NY Public Library or Gutenberg,
> but it
> > > does have potential.Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Millicent
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > To: Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu>
> > > Cc: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News
> &,Views
> > > <new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>
> > > Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 8:06 am
> > > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Quite so. I checked out Chekhov among its Kindle
> books and
> > > couldn't even tell
> > > who'd done the translations.
> > >
> > > Hal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My problem with Amazon Books (that they sometimes
> are not
> > > easy to search and that they often give too
> little
> > > information about the books contents and/or
> edition) is
> > > exasperated with Kindle Books. Which
> edition is best of
> > > Moby Dick? Are there truncations? I.e., are you
> reading a
> > > good version of the book, or have the
> editors’
> > > “fixed� Dickinson’s
> punctuation and
> > > capitalization (as Perrine and Arp did in a
> freshman text
> > > and as the Barnes & Noble version of her
> poems...Â
> > >
> > > Â
> > > =0 A
> > >
> > > The designation of Kindle Edition or Kindle Book
> does not
> > > give me confidence.
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > > This is not a minor problem. Sometimes Amazon
> just says
> > > four novels by an author without telling which.
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Their customers for Kindle seem to be probably
> readers of
> > > popular fiction, not those who are concerned
> about the text
> > > they are getting20(like writers and sch
> > > olars). And the Amazon Kindle operation seems
> like a vendor
> > > which is not overly concerned with its product.
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > > That’s from looking over the list for
> about an hour
> > > so I could be wrong.
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "A hypocrite is a person who--but who isn't?"
> > > Â Â Â --Don Marquis
> > >
> > > Halvard Johnson
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:30:05 -0600
> > > From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
> > > To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News
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> > > Another forest weeps.
> > >
> > > Hal
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Jeff Newberry
> <jeff.newberry at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Me? I doubt I'll ever own one of
> these
> > > things. I'm still saving for a
> > > > 1972 Fender Telecaster Reissue, and in this
> economy,
> > > that guitar is becoming
> > > > more pipe dream and less something I'll
> actually own.
> > > >
> > > > But I'm and odd duck. I like the
> visceral
> > > quality of owning a book--the
> > > > feel of the pages, the smell of the ink, the
> slight
> > > variances in font and
> > > > spacing. I guess because I edit a
> college
> > > magazine, I'm attuned to such
> > > > qualities, though I doubt that I'm alone.
> > > >
> > > > I also like browsing in real bookstores,
> even if they
> > > are huge stores like
> > > > Borders or B&N. I like picking up
> different
> > > books, paging through them, and
> > > > skimming the contents. I like the
> subtle
> > > surprise of finding a book I'd not
> > > > hear of, picking it up off the shelf, and
> being
> > > captivated. I like looking
> > > > at covers and feeling the different kinds of
> textures
> > > that books have.
> > > >
> > > > I suppose that I'm an odd one, but (again) I
> refuse to
> > > believe that I am
> > > > alone.
> > > >
> > > > If I ever owned a Kindle, it would be in
> *addition* to
> > > the books I own and
> > > > will continue to buy.
> > > >
> > > > Ye olde luddite,
> > > > Jeff Newberry
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Millicent
> Accardi
> > > <millb at aol.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It's the same thing (to me) as sitting
> in a
> > > bookstore and leafing through
> > > >> a book I may want to buy.
> > > >>
> > > >> . . .Yeah, Kindle is not perfect. Yeah,
> Amazon is
> > > a business not a
> > > >> university and needs to make money.
> Yeah, it's not
> > > like a mortar and pestle
> > > >> book store, but I think that being able
> to read or
> > > review a T of C and
> > > >> sample chapters is a very useful
> feature. I
> > > actually LIKE being able (in
> > > >> the quiet of my own home) to read sample
> chapters
> > > before I spend money on a
> > > >> book! In bookstores I always feel
> as if I am
> > > sneaking around doing that.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >>
> > > >> Millicent
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > >> To: Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com>
> > > >> Cc: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
> > > >> Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 9:46 am
> > > >> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
> > > >>
> > > >> That's great, Mill. Nothing can
> save you
> > > money like sample chapters of
> > > >> a book you meant to buy.
> > > >>
> > > >> Hal
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:32 AM,
> Millicent Accardi
> > > <millb at aol.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Hal
> > > >>>
> > > >>> You can see sample chapters at
> Amazon too. If
> > > you don't have a Kindle.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Cheers,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Millicent
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Or iginal Message-----
> > > >>> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > >>> To: Millicent
> Accardi <millb at aol.com>
> > > >>> Cc: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
> > > >>> Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 9:15 am
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Very hard work--when
> you don't
> > > have a Kindle, though.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hal
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:04 AM,
> Millicent
> > > Accardi <millb at aol.com>wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> It may be a lot of work but you
> CAN
> > > download sample chapters on Kindle
> > > >>>> to see which edition you are
> getting.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Although Kindle has a lot of
> blogs and
> > > popular novels, there is a fair
> > > >>>> amount of literary (new literary
> fiction)
> > > offered.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> At this point, Kindle is still
> in the
> > > early stages. when I got mine
> > > >>>> over a year ago, I was lucky
> there were a
> > > few hundred books, now, there is a
> > > >>>> lot larger selection. Now,
> Kindle is not
> > > the NY Public Library or Gutenberg,
> > > >>>> but it does have potential.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Cheers,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Millicent
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > >>>> To: Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu>
> > > >>>> Cc: NewPoetry: Contemporary
> Poetry News
> > > &,Views <
> > > >>>> new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>
> > > >>>> Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 8:06 am
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle
> 2
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Quite so. I
> checked out
> > > Chekhov among its Kindle books and couldn't
> > > >>>> even tell
> > > >>>> who'd done the translations.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hal
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at
> 10:02 AM,
> > > Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> My problem
> with
> > > Amazon Books (that they sometimes are not easy
> to
> > > >>>>> search and that they often
> give too
> > > little information about the books
> > > >>>>> contents and/or edition) is
> > > exasperated with Kindle Books. Which
> edition is
> > > >>>>> best of Moby Dick? Are
> there
> > > truncations? I.e., are you reading a good
> > > >>>>> version of the book, or have
> the
> > > editors’ “fixed” Dickinson’s punctuation
> > > >>>>> and capitalization (as
> Perrine and Arp
> > > did in a freshman text and as the
> > > >>>>> Barnes & Noble version
> of her
> > > poems..
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> =0 AThe designation of
> Kindle Edition
> > > or Kindle Book does not give me
> > > >>>>> confidence.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> This is not a minor problem.
> Sometimes
> > > Amazon just says four novels by
> > > >>>>> an author without telling
> which.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Their customers for
> Kindle seem
> > > to be probably readers of popular
> > > >>>>> fiction, not those who are
> concerned
> > > about the text they are getting20(like
> > > >>>>> writers and scholars). And
> the Amazon
> > > Kindle operation seems like a vendor
> > > >>>>> which is not overly
> concerned with its
> > > product.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> That’s from looking over
> the list
> > > for about an hour so I could be
> > > >>>>> wrong.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> "A hypocrite is a person
> who--but who
> > > isn't?"
> > > >>>>
> --Don
> > > Marquis
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Halvard Johnson
> > > >>>> ================
> > > >>>> halvard at gmail.com
> > > >>>> http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home
> > > >>>> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com
> > > >>>> http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com
> > > >>>> http://www.hamiltonstone.org
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ___________________
> > > >>>> ____________________________
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> > wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry
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> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> "A hypocri te is a person
> who--but who
> > > isn't?"
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --Don
> Marquis
> > > >>> < br> Halvard Johnson
> > > >>> ================
> > > >>> halvard at gmail.com
> > > >>> http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home
> > > >>> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com
> > > >>> http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com
> > > >>> http://www.hamiltonstone.org
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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> > wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry
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> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> "A hypocrite is a person who--but who
> isn't?"
> > > >> --Don
> Marquis
> > > >>
> > > >> Halvard Johnson
> > > >> ================
> > > >> halvard at gmail.com
> > > >> http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home
> > > >> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com
> > > >> http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com
> > > >> http://www.hamiltonstone.org
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry
> > > >>
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> > > >> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > You cannot tell people what to do, you can
> only tell
> > > them parables; and
> > > > that is what art really is, particular
> stories of
> > > particular people and
> > > > experience, from which each according to his
> own
> > > immediate and peculiar
> > > > needs may drawn his own conclusion. --W.H.
> Auden
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "A hypocrite is a person who--but who isn't?"
> > > --Don Marquis
> > >
> > > Halvard Johnson
> > > ================
> > > halvard at gmail.com
> > > http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home
> > > http://entropyandme.blogspot.com
> > > http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com
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> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:34:04 -0600
> > > From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
> > > To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News
> > > &, Views"
> > > <new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <f160a1210903051034p9e10e99s7f8ef8a34fc307b1 at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> > >
> > > Forgot to mention, I like the smell of books
> > > too--especially the moldy
> > > ones--almost as much as
> > > I love the warmly metallic smell of my laptop,
> the feel and
> > > sound of its
> > > keys, the play of ambient
> > > light on the screen.
> > >
> > > Hal
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Jeff Newberry
> <jeff.newberry at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Me? I doubt I'll ever own one of
> these
> > > things. I'm still saving for a
> > > > 1972 Fender Telecaster Reissue, and in this
> economy,
> > > that guitar is becoming
> > > > more pipe dream and less something I'll
> actually own.
> > > >
> > > > But I'm and odd duck. I like the
> visceral
> > > quality of owning a book--the
> > > > feel of the pages, the smell of the ink, the
> slight
> > > variances in font and
> > > > spacing. I guess because I edit a
> college
> > > magazine, I'm attuned to such
> > > > qualities, though I doubt that I'm alone.
> > > >
> > > > I also like browsing in real bookstores,
> even if they
> > > are huge stores like
> > > > Borders or B&N. I like picking up
> different
> > > books, paging through them, and
> > > > skimming the contents. I like the
> subtle
> > > surprise of finding a book I'd not
> > > > hear of, picking it up off the shelf, and
> being
> > > captivated. I like looking
> > > > at covers and feeling the different kinds of
> textures
> > > that books have.
> > > >
> > > > I suppose that I'm an odd one, but (again) I
> refuse to
> > > believe that I am
> > > > alone.
> > > >
> > > > If I ever owned a Kindle, it would be in
> *addition* to
> > > the books I own and
> > > > will continue to buy.
> > > >
> > > > Ye olde luddite,
> > > > Jeff Newberry
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Millicent
> Accardi
> > > <millb at aol.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It's the same thing (to me) as sitting
> in a
> > > bookstore and leafing through
> > > >> a book I may want to buy.
> > > >>
> > > >> . . .Yeah, Kindle is not perfect. Yeah,
> Amazon is
> > > a business not a
> > > >> university and needs to make money.
> Yeah, it's not
> > > like a mortar and pestle
> > > >> book store, but I think that being able
> to read or
> > > review a T of C and
> > > >> sample chapters is a very useful
> feature. I
> > > actually LIKE being able (in
> > > >> the quiet of my own home) to read sample
> chapters
> > > before I spend money on a
> > > >> book! In bookstores I always feel
> as if I am
> > > sneaking around doing that.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >>
> > > >> Millicent
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > >> To: Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com>
> > > >> Cc: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
> > > >> Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 9:46 am
> > > >> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
> > > >>
> > > >> That's great, Mill. Nothing can
> save you
> > > money like sample chapters of
> > > >> a book you meant to buy.
> > > >>
> > > >> Hal
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:32 AM,
> Millicent Accardi
> > > <millb at aol.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Hal
> > > >>>
> > > >>> You can see sample chapters at
> Amazon too. If
> > > you don't have a Kindle.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Cheers,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Millicent
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Or iginal Message-----
> > > >>> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > >>> To: Millicent
> Accardi <millb at aol.com>
> > > >>> Cc: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
> > > >>> Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 9:15 am
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Very hard work--when
> you don't
> > > have a Kindle, though.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hal
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:04 AM,
> Millicent
> > > Accardi <millb at aol.com>wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> It may be a lot of work but you
> CAN
> > > download sample chapters on Kindle
> > > >>>> to see which edition you are
> getting.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Although Kindle has a lot of
> blogs and
> > > popular novels, there is a fair
> > > >>>> amount of literary (new literary
> fiction)
> > > offered.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> At this point, Kindle is still
> in the
> > > early stages. when I got mine
> > > >>>> over a year ago, I was lucky
> there were a
> > > few hundred books, now, there is a
> > > >>>> lot larger selection. Now,
> Kindle is not
> > > the NY Public Library or Gutenberg,
> > > >>>> but it does have potential.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Cheers,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Millicent
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > >>>> To: Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu>
> > > >>>> Cc: NewPoetry: Contemporary
> Poetry News
> > > &,Views <
> > > >>>> new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>
> > > >>>> Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 8:06 am
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle
> 2
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Quite so. I
> checked out
> > > Chekhov among its Kindle books and couldn't
> > > >>>> even tell
> > > >>>> who'd done the translations.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hal
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at
> 10:02 AM,
> > > Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> My problem
> with
> > > Amazon Books (that they sometimes are not easy
> to
> > > >>>>> search and that they often
> give too
> > > little information about the books
> > > >>>>> contents and/or edition) is
> > > exasperated with Kindle Books. Which
> edition is
> > > >>>>> best of Moby Dick? Are
> there
> > > truncations? I.e., are you reading a good
> > > >>>>> version of the book, or have
> the
> > > editors’ “fixed” Dickinson’s punctuation
> > > >>>>> and capitalization (as
> Perrine and Arp
> > > did in a freshman text and as the
> > > >>>>> Barnes & Noble version
> of her
> > > poems..
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> =0 AThe designation of
> Kindle Edition
> > > or Kindle Book does not give me
> > > >>>>> confidence.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> This is not a minor problem.
> Sometimes
> > > Amazon just says four novels by
> > > >>>>> an author without telling
> which.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Their customers for
> Kindle seem
> > > to be probably readers of popular
> > > >>>>> fiction, not those who are
> concerned
> > > about the text they are getting20(like
> > > >>>>> writers and scholars). And
> the Amazon
> > > Kindle operation seems like a vendor
> > > >>>>> which is not overly
> concerned with its
> > > product.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> That’s from looking over
> the list
> > > for about an hour so I could be
> > > >>>>> wrong.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> "A hypocrite is a person
> who--but who
> > > isn't?"
> > > >>>>
> --Don
> > > Marquis
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Halvard Johnson
> > > >>>> ================
> > > >>>> halvard at gmail.com
> > > >>>> http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home
> > > >>>> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com
> > > >>>> http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com
> > > >>>> http://www.hamiltonstone.org
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ___________________
> > > >>>> ____________________________
> > > >>>> New-Poetry mailing listNew-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.eduhttp://
> > wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
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> > > from anywhere on the web. Get
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> > > >>>> !
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> "A hypocri te is a person
> who--but who
> > > isn't?"
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --Don
> Marquis
> > > >>> < br> Halvard Johnson
> > > >>> ================
> > > >>> halvard at gmail.com
> > > >>> http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home
> > > >>> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com
> > > >>> http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com
> > > >>> http://www.hamiltonstone.org
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > >>> New-Poetry mailing listNew-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.eduhttp://
> > wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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> > > >>> !
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> "A hypocrite is a person who--but who
> isn't?"
> > > >> --Don
> Marquis
> > > >>
> > > >> Halvard Johnson
> > > >> ================
> > > >> halvard at gmail.com
> > > >> http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home
> > > >> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com
> > > >> http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com
> > > >> http://www.hamiltonstone.org
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > >> New-Poetry mailing listNew-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.eduhttp://
> > wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry
> > > >>
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> from
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> > > >>
> _______________________________________________
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> > > >> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > You cannot tell people what to do, you can
> only tell
> > > them parables; and
> > > > that is what art really is, particular
> stories of
> > > particular people and
> > > > experience, from which each according to his
> own
> > > immediate and peculiar
> > > > needs may drawn his own conclusion. --W.H.
> Auden
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> _______________________________________________
> > > > New-Poetry mailing list
> > > > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
> > > > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "A hypocrite is a person who--but who isn't?"
> > > --Don Marquis
> > >
> > > Halvard Johnson
> > > ================
> > > halvard at gmail.com
> > > http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home
> > > http://entropyandme.blogspot.com
> > > http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com
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> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:36:55 -0500
> > > From: Jeff Newberry <jeff.newberry at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
> > > To: halvard at gmail.com,
> > > "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &,
> > > Views" <new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <731bb17a0903051036v693f2a8bsa256516d640de4e8 at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> > >
> > > Tell it to the textbook publishers . . .
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Halvard Johnson
> <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Another forest weeps.
> > > >
> > > > Hal
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Jeff
> Newberry <
> > jeff.newberry at gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Me? I doubt I'll ever own one of
> these
> > > things. I'm still saving for a
> > > >> 1972 Fender Telecaster Reissue, and in
> this
> > > economy, that guitar is becoming
> > > >> more pipe dream and less something I'll
> actually
> > > own.
> > > >>
> > > >> But I'm and odd duck. I like the
> visceral
> > > quality of owning a book--the
> > > >> feel of the pages, the smell of the ink,
> the
> > > slight variances in font and
> > > >> spacing. I guess because I edit a
> college
> > > magazine, I'm attuned to such
> > > >> qualities, though I doubt that I'm
> alone.
> > > >>
> > > >> I also like browsing in real bookstores,
> even if
> > > they are huge stores like
> > > >> Borders or B&N. I like picking
> up
> > > different books, paging through them, and
> > > >> skimming the contents. I like the
> subtle
> > > surprise of finding a book I'd not
> > > >> hear of, picking it up off the shelf,
> and being
> > > captivated. I like looking
> > > >> at covers and feeling the different
> kinds of
> > > textures that books have.
> > > >>
> > > >> I suppose that I'm an odd one, but
> (again) I
> > > refuse to believe that I am
> > > >> alone.
> > > >>
> > > >> If I ever owned a Kindle, it would be
> in
> > > *addition* to the books I own
> > > >> and will continue to buy.
> > > >>
> > > >> Ye olde luddite,
> > > >> Jeff Newberry
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM,
> Millicent Accardi
> > > <millb at aol.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> It's the same thing (to me) as
> sitting in a
> > > bookstore and leafing through
> > > >>> a book I may want to buy.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> . . .Yeah, Kindle is not perfect.
> Yeah, Amazon
> > > is a business not a
> > > >>> university and needs to make money.
> Yeah, it's
> > > not like a mortar and pestle
> > > >>> book store, but I think that being
> able to
> > > read or review a T of C and
> > > >>> sample chapters is a very useful
> > > feature. I actually LIKE being able (in
> > > >>> the quiet of my own home) to read
> sample
> > > chapters before I spend money on a
> > > >>> book! In bookstores I always
> feel as if
> > > I am sneaking around doing that.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Cheers,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Millicent
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > >>> To: Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com>
> > > >>> Cc: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
> > > >>> Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 9:46 am
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
> > > >>>
> > > >>> That's great, Mill. Nothing
> can save you
> > > money like sample chapters of
> > > >>> a book you meant to buy.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hal
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:32 AM,
> Millicent
> > > Accardi <millb at aol.com>wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi Hal
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> You can see sample chapters at
> Amazon too.
> > > If you don't have a Kindle.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Cheers,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Millicent
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -----Or iginal Message-----
> > > >>>> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > >>>> To: Millicent
> Accardi
> > > <millb at aol.com>
> > > >>>> Cc: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
> > > >>>> Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 9:15 am
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle
> 2
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Very hard
> work--when you
> > > don't have a Kindle, though.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hal
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:04 AM,
> Millicent
> > > Accardi <millb at aol.com>wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> It may be a lot of work but
> you CAN
> > > download sample chapters on Kindle
> > > >>>>> to see which edition you are
> getting.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Although Kindle has a lot of
> blogs and
> > > popular novels, there is a fair
> > > >>>>> amount of literary (new
> literary
> > > fiction) offered.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> At this point, Kindle is
> still in the
> > > early stages. when I got mine
> > > >>>>> over a year ago, I was lucky
> there
> > > were a few hundred books, now, there is a
> > > >>>>> lot larger selection. Now,
> Kindle is
> > > not the NY Public Library or Gutenberg,
> > > >>>>> but it does have potential.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Cheers,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Millicent
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com>
> > > >>>>> To: Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu>
> > > >>>>> Cc: NewPoetry: Contemporary
> Poetry
> > > News &,Views <
> > > >>>>> new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>
> > > >>>>> Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 8:06
> am
> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry]
> Kindle 2
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Quite so. I
> checked
> > > out Chekhov among its Kindle books and couldn't
> > > >>>>> even tell
> > > >>>>> who'd done the
> translations.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hal
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at
> 10:02 AM,
> > > Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> My
> problem with
> > > Amazon Books (that they sometimes are not easy
> to
> > > >>>>>> search and that they
> often give
> > > too little information about the books
> > > >>>>>> contents and/or edition)
> is
> > > exasperated with Kindle Books. Which
> edition is
> > > >>>>>> best of Moby Dick? Are
> there
> > > truncations? I.e., are you reading a good
> > > >>>>>> version of the book, or
> have the
> > > editors’ “fixed” Dickinson’s punctuation
> > > >>>>>> and capitalization (as
> Perrine and
> > > Arp did in a freshman text and as the
> > > >>>>>> Barnes & Noble
> version of her
> > > poems..
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> =0 AThe designation of
> Kindle
> > > Edition or Kindle Book does not give me
> > > >>>>>> confidence.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> This is not a minor
> problem.
> > > Sometimes Amazon just says four novels by
> > > >>>>>> an author without
> telling which.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Their customers
> for Kindle
> > > seem to be probably readers of popular
> > > >>>>>> fiction, not those who
> are
> > > concerned about the text they are getting20(like
> > > >>>>>> writers and scholars).
> And the
> > > Amazon Kindle operation seems like a vendor
> > > >>>>>> which is not overly
> concerned with
> > > its product.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> That’s from looking
> over the
> > > list for about an hour so I could be
> > > >>>>>> wrong.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --
> > > >>>>> "A hypocrite is a person
> who--but who
> > > isn't?"
> > > >>>>>
> --Don
> > > Marquis
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Halvard Johnson
> > > >>>>> ================
> > > >>>>> halvard at gmail.com
> > > >>>>> http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home
> > > >>>>> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com
> > > >>>>> http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com
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