[New-Poetry] Kindle 2
Anny Ballardini
anny.ballardini at gmail.com
Thu Mar 5 13:59:35 EST 2009
Graceful. The entire discussion. And yes, the furthest idea was also
somewhere deep in the forest (no television, no microwave, but 2 laptops and
a desktop - talk of contradictions, but no car). Like all those who are
teachers here, every year there are tons of new books, and new books and new
books. A set of kindles could solve at least the most urgent problems.
Let alone the weight for those who travel.
As it seems to me, Kindle is not perfect yet, but it will be quite soon -
also because Amazon is an eager and rampant company, and I think that many
of us are already looking forward to it.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:51 PM, TheOldMole <Opus40-01 at opus40.org> wrote:
> hypocritical but true is my favorite combination, next to beer and
> hamburgers.
>
> Jeff Newberry wrote:
>
>> Hi Mill,
>>
>> I think that you're probably right. I rarely go on long residencies or
>> trips, so the Kindle may not be the best thing for me. However, I will
>> admit that I lied a teensy bit: I do like technology quite a bit. I've a
>> laptop and a desktop as well as a tv and a microwave and a Blackberry. So,
>> my position on books is probably a bit hypocritical, but that doesn't mean
>> that what I posted isn't true.
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts on the Kindle. I appreciate hearing what you
>> have to say.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com <mailto:
>> millb at aol.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Jeff--
>>
>> I'm a luddite as well! No TV, no microwave.
>>
>> And I have to agree with you that nothing replaces books (at least
>> not now).
>>
>> Like I said at the beginning of this discussion when Anny posed a
>> question about the Kindle: it's great for travel and commuting and
>> the backyard or beach. I think I use it about 10-20% and, the rest
>> of the time, I still read regular books. At this point, my Kindle
>> (which a prized possession) has not replaced the thousands of
>> books that crowd my little shack in the canyon. It's an
>> additional tool that, for me, is surprisingly useful.
>>
>> For someone who travels or goes on residencies or who has a long
>> commute on a train, and wants to take decent reading material
>> along, it's a great, light-weight tool.
>> Before I left for Spain, I downloaded most of the books I needed
>> for my writing project (those that were not avail thru Amazon, I
>> shipped in a box). I also downloaded literary blogs, the Irish
>> Times, the London Times and a bank of book reviews and The New
>> Yorker. Since in EU whisper net is not available, I figured I
>> would load up. It made my trip a lot lighter! And I felt rather
>> stocked up on reading material in the airports I managed to be
>> stuck inside.
>>
>> For me the Kindle (at this point) is to books as a bicycle is to a
>> car.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Millicent
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeff Newberry <jeff.newberry at gmail ..com>
>> Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:06 am
>> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
>>
>> Me? I doubt I'll ever own one of these things. I'm still saving
>> for a 1972 Fender Telecaster Reissue, and in this economy, that
>> guitar is becoming more pipe dream and less something I'll
>> actually own.
>>
>> But I'm and odd duck. I like the visceral quality of owning a
>> book--the feel of the pages, the smell of the ink, the slight
>> variances in font and spacing. I guess because I edit a college
>> magazine, I'm attuned to such qualities, though I doubt that I'm
>> alone.
>>
>> I also like browsing in real bookstores, even if they are huge
>> stores like Borders or B&N. I like picking up different books,
>> paging through them, and skimming the contents. I like the subtle
>> surprise of finding a book I'd not hear of, picking it up off the
>> shelf, and being captivated. I like looking at covers and feeling
>> the different kinds of textures that books have.
>>
>> I suppose that I'm an odd one, but (again) I refuse to believe
>> that I am alone.
>>
>> If I ever owned a Kindle, it would be in /addition/ to the books I
>> own and will continue to buy.
>>
>> Ye olde luddite,
>> Jeff Newberry
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com
>> <mailto:millb at aol.com>> wrote:
>>
>> It's the same thing (to me) as sitting in a bookstore and
>> leafing through a book I may want to buy.
>>
>> .. . .Yeah, Kindle is not perfect. Yeah, Amazon is a business
>> not a university and needs to make money. Yeah, it's not like
>> a mortar and pestle book store, but I think that being able to
>> read or review a T of C and sample chapters is a very useful
>> feature. I actually LIKE being able (in the quiet of my own
>> home) to read sample chapters before I spend money on a book!
>> In bookstores I always feel as if I am sneaking around doing that.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Millicent
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com
>> <mailto:halvard at gmail.com>>
>> To: Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com <mailto:millb at aol.com>>
>> Cc: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu <mailto:new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>
>> Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 9:46 am
>> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
>>
>> That's great, Mill. Nothing can save you money like sample
>> chapters of
>> a book you meant to buy.
>>
>> Hal
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Millicent Accardi
>> <millb at aol.com <mailto:millb at aol.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Hal
>>
>> You can see sample chapters at Amazon too. If you don't
>> have a Kindle.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Millicent
>>
>>
>> -----Or iginal Message-----
>>
>> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com
>> <mailto:halvard at gmail.com>>
>> To: Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com <mailto:millb at aol.com>>
>> Cc: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
>> <mailto:new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>
>> Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 9:15 am
>> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
>>
>> Very hard work--when you don't have a Kindle, though.
>>
>> Hal
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Millicent Accardi
>> <millb at aol.com <mailto:millb at aol.com>> wrote:
>>
>> It may be a lot of work but you CAN download sample
>> chapters on Kindle to see which edition you are getting.
>>
>> Although Kindle has a lot of blogs and popular novels,
>> there is a fair amount of literary (new literary
>> fiction) offered.
>>
>> At this point, Kindle is still in the early stages.
>> when I got mine over a year ago, I was lucky there
>> were a few hundred books, now, ther e is a lot larger
>> selection. Now, Kindle is not the NY Public Library or
>> Gutenberg, but it does have potential.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Millicent
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com
>> <mailto:halvard at gmail.com>>
>> To: Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu
>> <mailto:skip at louisiana.edu>>
>> Cc: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &,Views
>> <new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
>> <mailto:new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>>
>> Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 8:06 am
>> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
>>
>> Quite so. I checked out Chekhov among its Kindle books
>> and couldn't even tell
>> who'd done the translations.
>>
>> Hal
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Skip Fox
>> <skip at louisiana.edu <mailto:skip at louisiana.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> My problem with Amazon Books (that they sometimes
>> are not easy to search and that they often give
>> too little information about the books contents
>> and/or edition) is exasperated with Kindle Books.
>> Which edition is best of Moby Dick? Are there trun
>> cations? I.e., are you reading a good version of
>> the book, or have the editors’ “fixed” Dickinson’s
>> punctuation and capitalization (as Perrine and Arp
>> did in a freshman text and as the Barnes & Noble
>> version of her poems...
>> =0 A
>> The designation of Kindle Edition or Kindle Book
>> does not give me confidence.
>> This is not a minor problem.
>> Sometimes Amazon just
>> says four novels by an author without telling which.
>> Their customers for Kindle seem to
>> be probably
>> readers of popular fiction, not those who are
>> concerned about the text they are getting20(like
>> writers and scholars). And the Amazon Kindle
>> operation seems like a vendor which is not overly
>> concerned with its product.
>> That’s from looking over the list
>> for about an
>> hour so I could be wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- "A hypocrite is a person who--but who
>> isn't?"
>> --Don Marquis
>>
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