[New-Poetry] Kindle 2

TheOldMole Opus40-01 at opus40.org
Thu Mar 5 13:51:05 EST 2009


hypocritical but true is my favorite combination, next to beer and 
hamburgers.

Jeff Newberry wrote:
> Hi Mill,
>
> I think that you're probably right.  I rarely go on long residencies 
> or trips, so the Kindle may not be the best thing for me.  However, I 
> will admit that I lied a teensy bit:  I do like technology quite a 
> bit.  I've a laptop and a desktop as well as a tv and a microwave and 
> a Blackberry.  So, my position on books is probably a bit 
> hypocritical, but that doesn't mean that what I posted isn't true.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts on the Kindle.  I appreciate hearing what you 
> have to say.
>
> Best,
> Jeff
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com 
> <mailto:millb at aol.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hey Jeff--
>
>     I'm a luddite as well!  No TV, no microwave.
>
>     And I have to agree with you that nothing replaces books (at least
>     not now).
>
>     Like I said at the beginning of this discussion when Anny posed a
>     question about the Kindle: it's great for travel and commuting and
>     the backyard or beach. I think I use it about 10-20% and, the rest
>     of the time, I still read regular books. At this point, my Kindle
>     (which a prized possession) has not replaced the thousands of
>     books that crowd my little shack in the canyon.  It's an
>     additional tool that, for me, is surprisingly useful.
>
>     For someone who travels or goes on residencies or who has a long
>     commute on a train, and wants to take decent reading material
>     along, it's a great, light-weight tool. 
>
>     Before I left for Spain, I downloaded most of the books I needed
>     for my writing project (those that were not avail thru Amazon, I
>     shipped in a box). I also downloaded literary blogs, the Irish
>     Times, the London Times and a bank of book reviews and The New
>     Yorker.  Since in EU whisper net is not available, I figured I
>     would load up.  It made my trip a lot lighter!  And I felt rather
>     stocked up on reading material in the airports I managed to be
>     stuck inside.
>
>     For me the Kindle (at this point) is to books as a bicycle is to a
>     car.
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Millicent
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Jeff Newberry <jeff.newberry at gmail ..com>
>     Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:06 am
>     Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
>
>     Me?  I doubt I'll ever own one of these things.  I'm still saving
>     for a 1972 Fender Telecaster Reissue, and in this economy, that
>     guitar is becoming more pipe dream and less something I'll
>     actually own.
>
>     But I'm and odd duck.  I like the visceral quality of owning a
>     book--the feel of the pages, the smell of the ink, the slight
>     variances in font and spacing.  I guess because I edit a college
>     magazine, I'm attuned to such qualities, though I doubt that I'm
>     alone.
>
>     I also like browsing in real bookstores, even if they are huge
>     stores like Borders or B&N.  I like picking up different books,
>     paging through them, and skimming the contents.  I like the subtle
>     surprise of finding a book I'd not hear of, picking it up off the
>     shelf, and being captivated.  I like looking at covers and feeling
>     the different kinds of textures that books have.
>
>     I suppose that I'm an odd one, but (again) I refuse to believe
>     that I am alone.
>
>     If I ever owned a Kindle, it would be in /addition/ to the books I
>     own and will continue to buy.
>
>     Ye olde luddite,
>     Jeff Newberry
>
>     On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com
>     <mailto:millb at aol.com>> wrote:
>
>         It's the same thing (to me) as sitting in a bookstore and
>         leafing through a book I may want to buy.
>
>         .. . .Yeah, Kindle is not perfect. Yeah, Amazon is a business
>         not a university and needs to make money. Yeah, it's not like
>         a mortar and pestle book store, but I think that being able to
>         read or review a T of C and sample chapters is a very useful
>         feature.  I actually LIKE being able (in the quiet of my own
>         home) to read sample chapters before I spend money on a book! 
>         In bookstores I always feel as if I am sneaking around doing that.
>
>         Cheers,
>
>         Millicent
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com
>         <mailto:halvard at gmail.com>>
>         To: Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com <mailto:millb at aol.com>>
>         Cc: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu <mailto:new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>
>         Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 9:46 am
>         Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
>
>         That's great, Mill. Nothing can save you money like sample
>         chapters of
>         a book you meant to buy.
>
>         Hal
>
>         On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Millicent Accardi
>         <millb at aol.com <mailto:millb at aol.com>> wrote:
>
>             Hi Hal
>
>             You can see sample chapters at Amazon too. If you don't
>             have a Kindle.
>
>             Cheers,
>
>             Millicent
>
>
>             -----Or iginal Message-----
>
>             From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com
>             <mailto:halvard at gmail.com>>
>             To: Millicent Accardi <millb at aol.com <mailto:millb at aol.com>>
>             Cc: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
>             <mailto:new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>
>             Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 9:15 am
>             Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
>
>             Very hard work--when you don't have a Kindle, though.
>
>             Hal
>
>             On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Millicent Accardi
>             <millb at aol.com <mailto:millb at aol.com>> wrote:
>
>                 It may be a lot of work but you CAN download sample
>                 chapters on Kindle to see which edition you are getting.
>
>                 Although Kindle has a lot of blogs and popular novels,
>                 there is a fair amount of literary (new literary
>                 fiction) offered.
>
>                 At this point, Kindle is still in the early stages. 
>                 when I got mine over a year ago, I was lucky there
>                 were a few hundred books, now, ther e is a lot larger
>                 selection. Now, Kindle is not the NY Public Library or
>                 Gutenberg, but it does have potential. 
>
>
>                 Cheers,
>
>                 Millicent
>
>
>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com
>                 <mailto:halvard at gmail.com>>
>                 To: Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu
>                 <mailto:skip at louisiana.edu>>
>                 Cc: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &amp,Views
>                 <new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
>                 <mailto:new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>>
>                 Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 8:06 am
>                 Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Kindle 2
>
>                 Quite so. I checked out Chekhov among its Kindle books
>                 and couldn't even tell
>                 who'd done the translations.
>
>                 Hal
>
>                 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Skip Fox
>                 <skip at louisiana.edu <mailto:skip at louisiana.edu>> wrote:
>
>                     My problem with Amazon Books (that they sometimes
>                     are not easy to search and that they often give
>                     too little information about the books contents
>                     and/or edition) is exasperated with Kindle Books. 
>                     Which edition is best of Moby Dick? Are there trun
>                     cations? I.e., are you reading a good version of
>                     the book, or have the editors’ “fixed” Dickinson’s
>                     punctuation and capitalization (as Perrine and Arp
>                     did in a freshman text and as the Barnes & Noble
>                     version of her poems... 
>                      
>                     =0 A
>                     The designation of Kindle Edition or Kindle Book
>                     does not give me confidence.
>                      
>                     This is not a minor problem. Sometimes Amazon just
>                     says four novels by an author without telling which.
>                      
>                     Their customers for Kindle seem to be probably
>                     readers of popular fiction, not those who are
>                     concerned about the text they are getting20(like
>                     writers and scholars). And the Amazon Kindle
>                     operation seems like a vendor which is not overly
>                     concerned with its product.
>                      
>                     That’s from looking over the list for about an
>                     hour so I could be wrong.
>                      
>
>
>
>
>                 -- 
>                 "A hypocrite is a person who--but who isn't?"
>                       --Don Marquis
>
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