[New-Poetry] beauty

[Mark Weiss]

I'd guess you didn't read the article, Anny, and 
I'm not suggesting you do. Among the works he 
cites as deliberately anti-beauty is Berg's Lulu, 
which I think extravagantly beautiful, though 
it's about a girl of questionable morals. What 
he's really advocating, from a barely-concealed 
conservative Christian position, is 
beauty-as-sweetness, as opposed to art that makes 
one uncomfortable enough to question. That, and 
he doesn't conceal his dislike of 
abstraction--beauty is for him about depiction of 
"reality." So much for Rothko.

What would he do with Balthus, I wonder, or for 
that matter Dryden and Davenant's romp through 
The Tempest, which has to be the high temple of its kind of beauty?

The D&D Tempest is great fun, by the way, if you 
can suppress your gag reflex. Like Mel Brooks taking on the Sublime.

Mark

At 03:05 PM 6/11/2009, you wrote:
>I anyhow agree on 'Beauty'
>
>and I also think that Poetry, or any other Art 
>should remember it/She - la bellezza, la 
>beaute', die Schoenheit, la belleza, they are all feminine.
>Literary and Art Criticism, as much as 
>Philosophy or Sociology have their own jobs to 
>do, and since Mark is here, also Psychology has its own burden.
>
>On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:39 PM, 
><<mailto:jforjames at aol.com>jforjames at aol.com> wrote:
>Remember I don't post only those things I agree 
>with...it's my job as CC to this list, to drag 
>the web for things that might be of use to our intermittent discussions.
>Finnegan
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Weiss <<mailto:junction at earthlink.net>junction at earthlink.net>
>Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:25 am
>Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] beauty
>
>Did I miss something here? Hopper's paintings 
>are about bleak absence and the anxiety caused 
>by absence, Barber's piece is from a child's 
>point of view, its loveliness interrupted by a 
>starkly terrified outburst, and Stevens is most 
>often engaged with the slipperiness of what we 
>call reality. But that's just a start. I read 
>the article. This is some sort of neocon nonsense.
>
>Mark
>
>At 09:27 PM 6/10/2009, you wrote:
> ><<http://www.city-journal.org/2009/19_2_beauty. 
> html%3Ehttp://www.city-journal.org/2009/19_2_beauty.html>http://www.city-journal.org/2009/19_2_beauty.html>http://www.city-journal.org/2009/19_2_beauty.html 
>
> >For artists like Hopper, Samuel Barber, 
> and >Wallace Stevens, ostentatious 
> transgression was >mere sentimentality, a cheap 
> way to stimulate an >audience, and a betrayal 
> of the sacred task of >art, which is to magnify 
> life as it is and to >reveal its beauty—as 
> Stevens reveals the beautyy >of “An Ordinary 
> Evening in New H aven†and >Barber that of 
> Knoxville: Summer of 1915. But >somehow those 
> great life-affirmers lost their >position at the forefront of modern culture.
>
> >
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