[New-Poetry] litmag watch: shampoo

[Bob Grumman]

Michael Snider wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Bob Grumman <bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net> wrote:
>   
>> Chris Lott wrote:
>>     
>>> The question is, Bob, do you find Blowdryer's poetry interesting? My
>>> assessment of the poems in the Shampoo link: pretty freakin' boring.
>>>       
>> Didn't find any poems of hers but have already forgotten what the first
>> prose piece was about.  The second I tired of after six or seven paragraphs.
>>  She seems accurately to catch a contemporary young airhead's psychology and
>> diction but what's the point?  Who cares?
>>
>> --Bob
>>     
>
> Just a mild tease from me, Bob -- aside from its quality why isn't her
> work poetry? She says it is, and the "prose poem" is a recognized
> genre.
>   
I simply have ordained that there is a difference between poetry and 
prose.  It makes no sense to recognize this kind of "prose poetry" as 
poetry because that makes the term "poetry" meaningless.  Or the term 
"prose."  I have an even bigger problem with all my good friends in 
visual poetry who count as visual poems designs with letters but no 
words in them--and sometimes even designs that suggest to them some kind 
of "textual gesture."  It's insane.  Poetry has to have aesthetically 
meaningful words.  When I tell them that, they act as though I am asking 
for the abolition of textual designs, some of which I extremely like.  
It's hard having a rational mind in the world of poets.

--Bob
> As it happens, I agree - it's neither poetry nor interesting.
>
> But since there's been so much talk of penises, what about Wayne
> Koestenbaum's contribution here:
> http://www.shampoopoetry.com/ShampooThirtyfive/koestenbaum.html
>
>
> I did kind of like these from Brian Teare (
> http://www.shampoopoetry.com/ShampooThirtyfive/teare.html ), but for
> the most part I was just awfully glad no trees were pulped for
> Shampoo.
>
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