Re: [New-Poetry] An Era of DÃ(c)tente for Creative- Wri ting Programs

[Mark Weiss]

Chris: The kids who were raised on it for the most part don't have 
much background on how it got there. For the rest of us that 
background is seriously helpful There's a long tradition behind it 
that folks on the other side haven't for the most part been exposed 
to, and it's transnational. A good place to start would be the 
Rothenberg and Joris Poems for the Millennium, in two volumes. Don't 
skip the first volume, which runs to 1950--the foundations of much of 
what's followed is in it. And it's a lot of fun.

Mark

At 02:27 PM 7/3/2009, you wrote:
>Actually, forget this post. I'm just not interested in the argument.
>I'm much more interested-- and have been for a long time-- in how I
>can figure out how some of these new poems work.
>
>I'm not looking for explication in the traditional sense. I'm also not
>excluding the possibility that I'm simply not smart enough to do so.
>
>c
>
>On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Chris Lott<chris at chrislott.org> wrote:
> > Your being circular, Bob. The only thing not having an MFA "blocks" is
> > being a member of the MFA club, which surely isn't going to help one
> > much if they want to work in academia, for obvious reasons. You won't
> > find me disagreeing that our higher ed system is broken. But this
> > isn't an aspect of poetry, but of the academic system in general.
> > Where are you going to get any teaching position in anything in higher
> > ed without having those credentials?
> >
> > c
> >
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