Re: [New-Poetry] An Era of Détente for Creati ve-Wri ting Programs

Mark Weiss junction at earthlink.net
Fri Jul 3 11:51:05 EDT 2009


That would be circa 1962. A different world. How many MFAs or MAs in 
creative writing were granted that year (in the entire country), how 
many programs were there?

At 11:30 AM 7/3/2009, you wrote:


>Graham, David wrote:
>>Also, the "standardization" charge is meaningless without 
>>illustration. Furthermore, if one wanted to argue rather than 
>>merely assert it, that would require some effort.  Certainly it 
>>would require more than citing a bland poem or three, since 
>>mediocrity is the default mode of all poetry in every era.
>>
>>
>>
>My classmates in the MFA program at Iowa included Marvin Bell, Mark 
>Strand, Charles Wright, James Tate, Frank Chin, Lawson Inada, 
>Michael S. Harper, and of course me. No L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E or vizpoets, 
>but short of Wilshberia, it would be hard to find a cookie cutter 
>that would stamp all of them out. And others who went in still 
>different directions. Ken Rosen, dyspeptic and brilliant. George 
>Keithley, author of a book-length poem on the Donner Party. A couple 
>of poet laureates whose work could not be more different -- 
>Mary  Crow (Colorado), influenced by her Spanish-language 
>translations as much by anything that happened at Iowa, and Edmund 
>Skellings (Florida), who went through Iowa without absorbing any 
>influences at all, and has remained an unregenerate formalist.
>
>--
>Tad Richards
>Read my NY Writing Careers Examiner column today!
>http://www.examiner.com/x-2862-NY-Writing-Careers-Examiner
>
>http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/
>http://opusforty.blogspot.com/
>
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