Re: [New-Poetry] An Era of Détente for Creative-Wri ting Programs

[Mark Weiss]

An official literary culture tends to exclude. We're developing an 
official literary culture.

OK, it's been fun. I've said what I wanted to. You're free to ignore 
it or misread it. I have proofreading to do.

Mark



At 11:12 PM 7/2/2009, you wrote:
>As has already been mentioned, these poets weren't all teacher free.
>
>Further, I fail to see how Hugo's position that you can't teach
>someone to write good poems but you can help them avoid and get past
>writing crappy ones stands in the way of "paradigm shifts." At least
>it certainly seems more in line with what you appear to desire than
>trying TO teach someone to write good poems.
>
>And, really, if those who we assume capable of making that kind of
>paradigm shifting leap are squelched so easily then perhaps they
>weren't really capable of doing so in the first place.
>
>c
>
>On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Mark Weiss<junction at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > I'm sorry this bugs you. Let's try it another way. You don't get a Rimbaud,
> > or a Ginsberg, or an Olson, or a Dickinson. Add your own.
> >
> > At 10:12 PM 7/2/2009, you wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Mark Weiss<junction at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Again, you don't get paradigm shifts by teaching people how not to
> >> > write.
> >> > There's something at stake here beyond the cultivation of a polite
> >> > accomplishment.
> >>
> >> "Paradigm shifts?" Sweet Jesus deliver me...
> >>
> >> c
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