[New-Poetry] Art of the Small Poem. Chapter 5: The Title

[James Cervantes]

Ditto, and for me it's because he did better with the variations aspect than
the fugue.
- Jim

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu> wrote:

>  In a way Ashbery’s “Variations, Calypso and Fugue on a Theme of Ella
> Wheeler Wilcox” is much greater than the poem which *does*, however, go on
> for several pages. (Brilliant to have included in his *Selected*.)
>
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> *From:* new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:
> new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] *On Behalf Of *James Cervantes
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>
> Or, in a totally different direction:  titles bigger (in any respect)  than
> the poems themselves.
>
>
>
> - Jim
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu> wrote:
>
> I think the NY School of poets read Stevens well. Esp. Ashbery. An
> interesting thesis might even propose that Stevens' titling (esp. the ones
> you mentioned) influenced the NY Poets' titles. The NY School just torqued
> them with a wilder humor.
>
> The ones you mentioned are all lushly descriptive (like "Sea Surface" for
> the description of the world itself, which also established the bounds of
> the poem in one sense) or very "smart" (I'm trying to avoid the term
> "intellectual") (as "The Palm" is at mind's end as both world and self,
> tree
> and hand, the actual and fortune's fleshy sign). Beautiful examples.
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:19 PM
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>
> Are we allowed to mention Wilshberians? If so, I'll go with Stevens -
> "The Palm at the End of the Mind," "Sea Surface Full of Clouds," "The
> Comedian as the Letter C."
>
> Skip Fox wrote:
> >
> > Ted Berrigan wrote that titles should be tiny poems. I love those by
> > Berrigan, Ashbery, O'Hara, and Mayer especially, like O'Hara's
> > "Meditations in an Emergency," "In Memory of My Feelings," or
> > Berrigan's "Tambourine Life" or "So Going Around Cities," or Mayer's
> > /The Desires of Mothers to Please Others in Letters/, etc.
> >
> > Favorite titles anyone?
> >
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