[New-Poetry] An Era of Détente for Creative-Wri ting Programs

[TheOldMole]

I don't even understand the question. He was hired to do the job because 
he had credentials as a poet and he impressed someone in his job 
interview, same as anyone else who teaches anything, By all accounts, he 
was good at his job.

Mark Weiss wrote:
> Are you saying all these things would make him a better poet?
>
> A lot of people seem to enjoy their MFA experience, and a lot of 
> people fatten at the trough. Neither is particularly problematic. It's 
> the bureaucratization of poetry that's the problem, and it's an 
> ongoing disaster. Somewbody quoted Richard Hugo. Not to speak ill of 
> the dead, but where did he come off teaching people how not to write?
>
> Mark
>
> At 12:09 PM 7/2/2009, you wrote:
>> Yes.  While I don't teach in an MFA program, I imagine it's irksome 
>> to be lectured on how cushy and safe one's life is by someone who 
>> skims off the cream of the university creative writing system while 
>> shouldering no institutional commitments or responsibilities--never 
>> teaching big sophomore lit classes or freshman comp; never chairing a 
>> department or faculty committee; never advising or counseling 
>> students; never writing letters of recommendation; never serving on 
>> institutional task forces or search committees; and, of course, never 
>> organizing the visiting writers' series which provides the blowhard 
>> in question the platform for such lofty dismissals.
>>
>>
>> ========================================
>> David Graham
>> <mailto:grahamd at ripon.edu>grahamd at ripon.edu
>>
>> Home Page:
>> <http://web.mac.com/drjazz>http://web.mac.com/drjazz
>>
>> Poetry Library:
>> <http://web.mac.com/drjazz/iWeb/Site/DGPoLibrary.html>http://web.mac.com/drjazz/iWeb/Site/DGPoLibrary.html 
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:51 AM, 
>> <mailto:AlMaginnes at aol.com>AlMaginnes at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> True. August Kleinzhaler might find "real life" a lot more real if 
>>> he practiced what he preached and didn't take any university or 
>>> grant money.
>>>
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