[New-Poetry] Re: confusing concision with brevity: W/S/Merwin
Halvard Johnson
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Wed Jul 1 11:01:26 EDT 2009
Welcome aboard, Stephen. Our friend David sometimes carries brevity
to the heights of nullity.
Hal
"Those who cast the ballots decide nothing.
Those who count the ballots decide everything."
--Joseph Stalin
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On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:49 AM, stephen russell <
poet_in_hell_files at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> i'm new to the list. can't find Merwin's 7 liner ... he wrote a beautiful
> homage to Berryman,
> 2nd stanza:
>
> don't lose your arrogance yet he said
> you can do that when you're older
> lose it to soon and you may
> merely replace it with vanity
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> 1. Tiny (Graham, David)
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> 3. RE: Tiny (Skip Fox)
> 4. Tny review (Skip Fox)
> 5. Re: Tiny (Anny Ballardini)
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> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:58:27 -0500
> From: "Graham, David" <GrahamD at ripon.edu<http://us.mc552.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=GrahamD@ripon.edu>
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> Subject: [New-Poetry] Tiny
> To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views"
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> I think not. But feel free to edit Merwin's seven word poem down to
> more concise form if you can.
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> David Graham
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> On Jun 30, 2009, at 2:50 PM, "Halvard Johnson" <halvard at gmail.com<http://us.mc552.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=halvard@gmail.com>>
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> wrote:
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> > Now you're confusing concision with brevity.
> >
> > Hal
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> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Graham, David <GrahamD at ripon.edu<http://us.mc552.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=GrahamD@ripon.edu>>
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> > wrote:
> > W. S. Merwin is hard to top in the concision department.
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> > Elegy
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> > Who would I show it to
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> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Tiny
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> More concise Merwin:
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> Who'd I show't to?
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> Hal
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> --Joseph Stalin
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> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Graham, David <GrahamD at ripon.edu<http://us.mc552.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=GrahamD@ripon.edu>>
> wrote:
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> > I think not. But feel free to edit Merwin's seven word poem down to more
> > concise form if you can.
> >
> >
> >
> > David GrahamGrahamd at Ripon.edu<http://us.mc552.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=GrahamGrahamd@Ripon.edu>
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> > On Jun 30, 2009, at 2:50 PM, "Halvard Johnson" <halvard at gmail.com<http://us.mc552.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=halvard@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Now you're confusing concision with brevity.
> >
> > Hal
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Graham, David < <GrahamD at ripon.edu<http://us.mc552.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=GrahamD@ripon.edu>
> >
> > GrahamD at ripon.edu<http://us.mc552.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=GrahamD@ripon.edu>>
> wrote:
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> >> W. S. Merwin is hard to top in the concision department.
> >>
> >> Elegy
> >>
> >>
> >> Who would I show it to
> >>
> >>
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> From: "Skip Fox" <skip at louisiana.edu<http://us.mc552.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=skip@louisiana.edu>
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> Elegy
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> Who . . .how . . to
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> On Behalf Of Graham, David
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:58 PM
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> Subject: [New-Poetry] Tiny
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> I think not. But feel free to edit Merwin's seven word poem down to more
> concise form if you can.
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> David Graham
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> On Jun 30, 2009, at 2:50 PM, "Halvard Johnson" <halvard at gmail.com<http://us.mc552.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=halvard@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
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> Now you're confusing concision with brevity.
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> Hal
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> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Graham, David < <mailto:GrahamD at ripon.edu<http://us.mc552.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=GrahamD@ripon.edu>
> >
> GrahamD at ripon.edu<http://us.mc552.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=GrahamD@ripon.edu>>
> wrote:
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> W. S. Merwin is hard to top in the concision department.
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> Elegy
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> Who would I show it to
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> A warm bath with words.
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