[New-Poetry] Alexander's text

[Judy Prince]

If you've written this Ashbery accessible thing in an article or a book,
I'll buy it, because he's not getting more accessible to me in this message
of yours, unfortunately for me.  I recall truly loving 3 lines of one of his
otherwise disconnections-packed poem.  [I think he said once that he creates
his poems while he watches tv; this explains much.]
I approve your teaching enthusiasm, Skip----and wot's not to 'dig' about
Parturition? <g>

Judy

2009/1/22 Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu>

>  But Ashbery is accessibly so. You can talk about lack of determinacy and
> confusions while noting so much in terms of shifting scenes, tones,
> ambiguities squared, and then show them "Instruction Manual" (and have *
> them* point out the clichéd travelogue . . . because someone always does
> if you start reading from it), and then his Ella Wheeler Wilcox poem would
> have the students howling, esp. noting the fact he put it in his Selected.
> (And then you can talk about jokes on terrible poetry and you're back to
> Twain and E. Grangerford.)
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> Steven's "Sunday Morning" would be great as well. Some Jeffers because of
> his beauty and the fact everyone likes to see someone darker than themselves
> at their worst.
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> I'd do some Pound. Even parts of the Cantos.
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> Yesterday an entire class of undergrads (all Eng. majors, but some told me
> previously of high anxiety approaching poetry, let alone difficult poetry)
> all seemed not just to understand but really *dig* Mina Loy's
> "Parturition."  A really great 40 mins. all round.
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> Bernadette Mayer, even. From *Midwinter's Day *maybe.
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> But then I remember the line, "It's easy to be a Romantic. Especially if
> you don't mind the evidence."
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> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:
> new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] *On Behalf Of *Judy Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:30 AM
> *To:* NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &amp,Views
> *Subject:* Re: [New-Poetry] Alexander's text
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> YES!  [Except that most of Ashbery's works are Way Inaccessible, I find]
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> Judy
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> 2009/1/22 Skip Fox <skip at louisiana.edu>
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> Bob,
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> Of course *I'd* drag them in deeper. Into Dickinson and Eliot, Williams
> and H.D., Stevens and Ashbery even. Hell, I'd be chanting Hopkins on
> occasion.
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> And we'd see that they weren't so inaccessible and much, much more.
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> Of course.
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> Skip
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