[New-Poetry] book art (or autopsies)

Bob Grumman bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net
Sat Jan 3 16:23:10 EST 2009


James Cervantes wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Bob Grumman <bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net 
> <mailto:bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net>> wrote:
>
>     James Cervantes wrote:
>
>         Terrific. The printed book has a future.  Makes you want to go
>         out and buy a bunch of xacto knives and start in on the old
>         library.
>
>         Visual poetry truly.
>
>         - Jim
>
>     You really don't find these things interesting, Jim?  I don't
>     expect others necessarily to find them more interesting than the
>     poems published in those newspaper columns Poet Laureates are
>     blessing us with, but I can understand how one with any interest
>     in books or visual art would not find them interesting.  It's
>     actually 3-D collage--but (for me) fascinatingly constrained by
>     the limitations on what cut-up can be used and where it can be used.
>
>
> I find them quite interesting and I wish the visual poetry I see on 
> the web had that extra dimension that Dettmer's work has (no pun 
> intended).  I know it's a different medium, but not that different 
> since it utilizes the word to a great degree.  Most visual poetry I 
> see is also collage but a flat collage, even when animated.  One could 
> add 3-D, I suppose, and holographs, and music . . . but then it's 
> becoming something else, no?  Not that there's anything wrong with that.
>
> -- Jim
Okay, Jim, I forgive you for what I took as a disparaging remark about 
Dettmer's work.  You're right about most visual poetry, and stuff called 
visual poetry that I don't consider visual poetry (although I like a lot 
of it) is collage.  3-D visual poetry isn't too common but it's been 
around for a while.  My friend K.S. Ernst has long made fascinating 
pieces out of wooden letters, for instance.  Sculpted books aren't new, 
either, though I think Dettmer may be doing something new with it.

--Bob G.
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