[New-Poetry] Re: Excellence in Poetry

[Anny Ballardini]

It is just astounding to notice how Bob Grumman, the rebel of the list,
needs rules to quantify something that he likes. If someone signed in for
the first time to the present list, that someone would get the idea that BG
is the judging judge of verse in general, and Jeff, David and James the
uncorrectable children who need to escape from written standards to which
people usually conform.

Re.: graveyard_
I feel totally alive.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:56 AM, <jforjames at aol.com> wrote:

> I think the sonnet is poetry's elephant graveyard. A place old poets go to
> die.
> Finnegan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Graham <grahamd at ripon.edu>
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> Sent: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 8:32 pm
> Subject: [New-Poetry] Re: Excellence in Poetry
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>  On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Bob Grumman wrote:
>
> (6) avoids excessive use of dead language, imagery, sentiment, ideation,
> technique and  form.
>
>
> --Bob G.
>
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>
>  Hmmmm.  Excessive use of dead form or technique. . . .  I'll need an
> example to help me grasp that.  What's a dead form, for starters?  Would the
> sonnet, perhaps, be a dead form?  If not, what is?  Iambic pentameter?
>  Triolets?  Masques?  Heroic couplets?
>
>  On the other hand, if the sonnet is a dead form, then why would we care
> if one uses it "excessively"?  Dead is dead, after all.
>
>  I'm afraid that #6 as stated strikes me as close to nonsensical.   As
> opposed to #1-5, which strike me as merely misguided. . . .
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