[New-Poetry] oh my oh my, Can poetry have greatness?
Anny Ballardini
anny.ballardini at gmail.com
Wed Feb 25 07:03:25 EST 2009
This diatribe came out several years ago in a most powerful way in France.
The book to be questioned was Lagarde et Michaux - their litterature
francaise of all centuries had set the path to many. I also studied on those
books.
In art it was l'Academie francaise that chose who was fit for immortality or
not.
Many were in history the factors that allowed one to be considered better
than the other, many are still today.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com> wrote:
> Time and, to a large extent, chance or luck.
>
> HJ
>
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> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:53 PM, TheOldMole <Opus40-01 at opus40.org> wrote:
>
>> See that's the thing. No one's going to agree. 19th century contemporaries
>> would as like as not have given a YAWK to Walt Whitman's YAWP (not the 19th
>> century equivalent of Judy, but many others). Time is the only separator of
>> wheat from chaff.
>>
>> Judy Prince wrote:
>>
>>> Orr could've used a few runs around Bob's WEPD list and our debates. He
>>> comes off as a big waffle. I propose Bob Grumman as the NYTBR poetry wotsit,
>>> after me, natch. John Ashbery the best of his generation---YAWK!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Judy
>>>
>>> 2009/2/24 <jforjames at aol.com <mailto:jforjames at aol.com>>
>>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/22/books/review/Orr-t.html?ref=arts
>>> In October, John Ashbery became the first poet to have an edition
>>> of his works released by the Library of America in his own
>>> lifetime. That honor says a number of things about the state of
>>> contemporary poetry — some good, some not so good — but perhaps
>>> the most important and disturbing question it raises is this: What
>>> will we do when Ashbery and his generation are gone? Because for
>>> the first time since the early 19th century, American poetry may
>>> be about to run out of greatness.
>>>
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I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing
star!
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