[New-Poetry] Excellence in Poetry, the Andrews Text
Anny Ballardini
anny.ballardini at gmail.com
Fri Feb 20 16:30:27 EST 2009
>From what you write, and from what we read, Andrews has to be considered an
artist rather than a poet, like Philip Corner of the Fluxus team. The
discussion on whether his (Andrew's) is a poem, also by Robert Pinsky, is
highly valuable. Many times at the Venice Biennale I had to face and
understand sets of words that were put there in a frame or without frame and
I was compelled to try to create philosophical, artistic, poetic
interpretations to justify the presence of such an 'object' at a Biennale.
They probably convey more than other poetic or philosophical or artistic
'objects' because they force the spectator to invent something intelligent.
See for example pages of a dictionary glued to the wall or on canvas, to
have an idea. Or like Andrew's, a simple, but not too logical, statement.
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Halvard Johnson <halvard at gmail.com> wrote:
> Lynda and I heard Andrews "read" at the Ear Inn in NYC a few years back,
> and I must say
> the "reading" was remarkable. He stood before a small group of listeners
> "reading" from a sheaf
> of papers he held in his hand. The language flow was strongly rhythmical
> (though not
> necessarily metrical) and it was really quite amazing to hear bits and
> pieces of the chatter
> in the bar behind him working their way into the reading.
>
> Hal
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Bob Grumman <bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net>wrote:
>
>> Michael Snider wrote:
>>
>>> Not hostile to you, Bob, but to the kind of "artist" who thinks other
>>> people must reach out to them — who feel entitled to the time and money of
>>> other people simply because they think themselves creative, or worse, think
>>> they can successfully pose as creative.
>>>
>> Didn't take it personally, Michael, just wondering why you think Andrews
>> is that sort of "artist?" He's part of the language poetry crew that I've
>> been antagonistic to, on and off, for years. because I think they've not
>> helped their brother and sister otherstreamersperimentalists in visual
>> poetry as much as I feel they ought to have (from positions of much greater
>> influence than any of my crew have gotten). But I like some of the things
>> he's done, and met him a few years ago--attending one of my crew's
>> exhibitions--and he seemed affable and supportive. I didn't immediately
>> take to this text of his--because it indeed doesn't seem like much, and
>> because it appeared in the Paris Review, for me another Enemy of Poetry.
>> And I still have a bias against anything a language poet does. But I have
>> to say the thing now appeals to me quite a lot.
>>
>>
>> --Bob
>>
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