[New-Poetry] 'The turn' has its own blog

[Michael Snider]

Tad, I'm sorry, but I don't like you that way.
But I'm all for keeping "turn." It's a good English word with a
non-technical mening which lends tself well to the things described in that
blog as well as a long history of use as a technial term in the sonnet.

Using "volta" reminds me of what happens with food -- if you have to catch
it or shovel its shit, its an English deer or  pig or cow. When you eat it,
it's French venison or pork or beef. But in that case, at least, it's a kind
of linguistic fossil,  a reminder of the three hundred years when the Norman
French ate what the Anglo-Saxon peasantry worked for. Then I suppose you
could argue the same for the sonnet's "turn" here, since the sonnet came
from the Italians.

And here's a littly ditty of mine about mixing Greek and Latin roots:

Triple Meter: *Lexicography*





Three hundred miles in an automobile

And my mind begins wandering far from the wheel:

Shouldn’t we call this machine for the autobahn

An ipsomobile or an autokineticon?



Google’s my answer when settling disputes

Such as “Who did this mixing of classical roots?

Joined Latin and Greek with a lexical wrench?”—

“Auto” and “mobile” are both from the French.


On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:52 PM, TheOldMole <Opus40-01 at opus40.org> wrote:

> Fuck the musicians.
>
> Halvard Johnson wrote:
>
>> "Turn" has a very specific meaning in music, so let the musicians have
>> it. How about "volta"--or "revoltin" or "revolver" or something like that.
>>
>> Hal
>>
>> "There is poetry in everything. That
>> is the biggest argument against poetry."
>>                 --Miroslav Holub
>>
>> Halvard Johnson
>> ================
>> halvard at gmail.com <mailto:halvard at gmail.com>
>> http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home
>> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com
>> http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com
>> http://www.hamiltonstone.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bob Grumman <bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net<mailto:
>> bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net>> wrote:
>>
>>    I don't like "turn" as a poetics or art term, though.  Nor
>>    "clang."  I think it deserves and needs a more narrowly-focused
>>    and unique name.
>>
>>    --Bob G.
>>
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