[New-Poetry] Concrete & fluid poetry

[David Graham]

One of the first poetry anthologies I ever purchased, and probably  
still the best on my shelf in terms of aesthetic inclusiveness, is  
Milton Klonsky's 1973 *Shake the Kaleidoscope:  A New Anthology of  
Modern Poetry*.  Long out of print, but it still pops up in used  
bookstores from time to time.  I highly recommend it.

First place I ever read Weldon Kees, Bill Knott, Russell Edson,  
Charles Reznikoff, Melvin Tolson, Kenneth Fearing, Mina Loy, Gertrude  
Stein, George Oppen, Edward Field, and many others.  Jim Harrison,  
too, then calling himself James. . . .

It also had the first spread of what was then termed concrete poetry  
that I'd encountered.  International in scope, too.  Bob G. probably  
knows the names, which in addition to the famous Aram Saroyan, also  
included Ronald Johnson, Decio Pignatari, Emmett Williams, Ronaldo  
Azeredo, Ian Hamilton Finlay, Reinhard Dohl, et al.

That really was a golden time in publishing, when such mass market  
paperbacks really were to be found in drug stores (where I bought  
mine, as I recall), airline terminals, and so forth; and when an  
anthology gathering the likes of Walter De La Mare, Philip Larkin,  
Mina Loy, J. V. Cunningham, Denise Levertov, Robert Lowell, Sylvia  
Plath, Richard Brautigan, James Merrill, Charles Simic, and Aram  
Saroyan raised no particular eyebrows.


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On Nov 3, 2008, at 8:16 PM, John Jeffrey wrote:

> Here's another none-word poem, though this one has a title.  (It's  
> by Don Patterson.)
>
>
> On Going to Meet a Zen Master in the Kyushu Mountains and Not  
> Finding Him
>      for A.G.
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> JohnJ
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> From: Halvard Johnson <halvard at earthlink.net>
> To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" <new- 
> poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>
> Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 7:56:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poetics (was Poetic Justice)
>
> Hmm, I thought the one-word poem school was pretty much
> in obscurity now.
>
> Here's one by Saroyan that makes one-word poems seem verbose:
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> --Aram Saroyan
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>
> Hal
>
> McCain / Palin -- Just say thanks but no thanks.
> They're a bridge to nowhere.
>
> Halvard Johnson
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> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com
> http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com
> http://www.hamiltonstone.org
> http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard/vidalocabooks.html
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> On Nov 3, 2008, at 6:02 PM, Bob Grumman wrote:
>
> > Halvard Johnson wrote:
> >> The future of one-word poems looks bright to me,
> >> compared, say, to the future of poems consisting
> >> of exactly 367 words. There's not much of a past
> >> there either.
> >>
> >> Hal
> > I guess that's one way of looking at it, Hal.  But I think implicit
> > in the idea of one-word poems is the idea of maximally condensed
> > poems.  I would add that my second thought is that there may well be
> > a lot of new things that can be done with such poems, especially
> > using animation.  Also, like any other form, it will surely go into
> > obscurity for a while, then be re-discovered.
> >
> >
> > --Bob G.
> >
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