[New-Poetry] Never Mind The Pollocks

[Judy Prince]

OK, R'Owl.  I'm a colour-freak but can't handle it aesthetically responsibly
like geniuses such as Pollock.  If I had my way, I'd stare at a rainbow or
wall washed in prism-colours all day, tiny coloured lites on every tree and
bush.  So I hafta begin like a baby with b/w.  Paul Oxborough [sp?] did the
2 year only black painting thing.  Some of his works're nifty [I've only
seen the ones in colours]; my faves are woman at the piano, a tiny work; and
his self-portrait peeling an orange.
Pretty much all styles and periods intrigue me, but recently mainly bcuz of
Peter Ciccariello's poems that blow my mind, I'm tryna figure out why, and
experimenting with poems and drawings that give me the same 'feel' as his
poems do.

Main feeling I get is that somehow the top of my head lifts up and stays
that way while I'm reading Peter's poems or writing/reading my lately ones.
 The rest of my head, from eyes down, functions as an indulgent, sleepy but
alert, sharp, benign editor.

Same things with the latest b/w illustrations, but it's a lot more
difficult.  The editor-eyes pull the top of my head down quite frequently,
alas.  Don't know why the diff btn poetry and painting headtop actions.
 Mite be as simple as my feeling more comfortable with words than with
image-jugglings.  Helps me to get blank paper and marker, think about how
I'm gonna illustrate a thing; then, having thought of the ways, to just say
"oh fuck" and go with something altogether different and weird.  It's
possible to do this more easily when the viewers are my 5 yr old grandtwins
bcuz they make fewer assumptions about what's 'normal' [or at least they
don't seem surprised at what they see].  The whole area of 'mistakes'
doesn't really apply, therefore. Lovely, nah?  ;-)

Your turn now,

joodles





2008/11/3 Roger Day <rog3r.day at gmail.com>

> I was wondering about the relationship of your work with Pollocks?
>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Judy Prince
> <jbalizsprince at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > You're asking all the delicious questions, R'Owl, and you've the talent,
> > background, and perseverance to get a spread of answers.  How about
> xpanding
> > your field of artists unlimitedly, both the painters and the poets?
> > On NP, am loving the chat about Franz Kline, for example, looking at the
> > sublim[e]inal samenesses in old Chinese calligraphy, FK's works, and my
> > recent attempts at illustrating using fat black marker pens [as a quick
> way
> > to approximate some of the look of woodcuts]---and most excitingly to
> note
> > those techniques' and effects' similarities in the poems of Peter
> > Ciccariello and my latest ones.
> > What say you about your works, fine art and poetic, and their possible
> > relationships with others'?
> > Best,
> > joodles
> >
> > 2008/11/3 Roger Day <rog3r.day at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> The admiration for Pollock expressed in this forum is shared by me.
> >> However, I have .. questions. Art practice is about control: control
> >> of media, the reader/viewer, experience ... yet Pollock pushes those
> >> boundaries. Oh, he has a modicum control in that each painting is a
> >> selection of colours and he places them - approximately and this is
> >> the rub - where he wants but if Art practice is continuum of control
> >> to un-control, then his methods swing to the latter unlike, say,
> >> Rothko whose methods veer towards absolute control. Who are Pollocks
> >> heirs? Not many, I think. Damien Hirst for one, possibly. Any others?
> >>
> >> My tutor hated Pollock to the extent that Pollock disappeared off his
> >> teaching map.
> >>
> >> How does this translate into poetry? If poetic practice is about
> >> control, whose poetical methods resemble Pollocks? Whose poetry is the
> >> parallel of Pollocks paintings?
> >>
> >> Roger
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