[New-Poetry] Poetic Justice

Judy Prince jbalizsprince at googlemail.com
Sun Nov 2 08:13:23 EST 2008


Up so early R U, Bob?  First read what I said that you copied in below; then
let me know that you read it by a unique paraphrase that tells me you
understood it.  [getting up early in the morning after 14 grueling hours
trying to be at least not screamingly obnoxious to twenty 5 yr olds and 18
parents as well as all of my family west of the Mississippi has not been
easy and now I hear the sneezing waking noises of an extra mother-in-law, my
5 yr old grandboy who will soon expect the birthday gifts I haven't been
able to locate which I'd carefully made and tucked into my luggage 3 days
ago do you get my basic point here Bob?  I'd rather not repeat myself like
I'm now doing simply bcuz females love to talk more than males like to talk]
soon, then, if you are still awake and I have magically become human.

Judy

2008/11/2 Bob Grumman <bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net>

>
>
>  I label the following poem Tongue-Tinsel and Brain-Reset, with a flying
> approach to near-Breathtaking:
>
> You're supposed to say why it's breath-taking, Judy.
>
> --Bob
>
>
>  Oct 24, 2008 12:16 AM
> I love the purring of knowing them<http://poemsfromprovidence.blogspot.com/2008/10/i-love-purring-of-knowing-them.html>
> by Peter Ciccariello
>   I love the purring of knowing them,
> So I will be moving the useless telephone
> Of my monstrous self to the ubiquitous ringtone
> That has been disrupting everyone's sleep
> When is a heaven such a useless tell?
> The letters and burning envelopes
> Resting so soft and full on the edge of your bedside table
> Are the only existing explanations of our archeology.
> Listening to the warm purring of the flames against the laid paper
> Reminds one how unpredictably disaster follows reticulation
> These all should arrive in your post next week,
> the edges of the burning, the purring, and the love.
> Asking you only to tell them that I am gone, lover,
> That we found all the evidence lover, and went ahead
> anyway, with full knowledge of our actions.
> I scratched all this conveniently in the mahogany
> On your side of the bed
>
>
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> 2008/10/30 John Jeffrey <jjeffreymail at yahoo.com>
>
>>  Bob,
>>
>> I didn't mean to give the impression that I was attacking your kind of
>> art, and I apologize if you felt that.  I only disagree with the definition
>> of creativity.  I wouldn't have the snowballs to attack your fort because,
>> to be honest, I don't understand New Poetry.  I've tried.  I've read it.
>> I've read theory.  But I get nothing.
>>
>> And not just the otherstreams, either.  Even the major rivers leave me
>> nodding off on the banks.  A few weeks ago, the Writer's Almanac had one of
>> those yawners that makes me weep at the state of poetry.  The title was "The
>> Poet Goes to Indiana" (by Mary Oliver) and the first stanza read:
>>
>>    I'll tell you a half-dozen things
>>    that happened to me
>>    in Indiana
>>    when I went that far west to teach.
>>    You tell me if it was worth it.
>>
>> By the time I got to the third line I was thinking, What do I care?  And
>> look at that third line: "In Indiana."  In Indiana?  That's worthy of its
>> own line? a principal unit? a piece of the pie? a lego block? a thought that
>> adds to the whole?  Bah!  No beauty in the writing.  No form to flatter.  No
>> images.  No surprises.  Nothing but chit-chatty broken out by grammatical
>> clauses.  Bah, I say again.
>>
>> And I'd dismiss is except that it's not atypical.
>>
>> I think we're in a poetic bear market.  Those near-empty spaces that you
>> see if you look at poetry timelines, like the post Milton dirth.  We're in
>> the dirth after a pretty good early 20th century.  It's been trending
>> downward since.  (Though I'll admit my tastes are demode.)
>>
>> That's one of the reasons I joined this group: to read contemporary poets
>> talking about contemporary poetry.  I thought that maybe some understanding
>> would leap from the emails into my eyes.  But it's slow coming.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
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