[New-Poetry] Re: New-Poetry Digest, Vol 47, Issue 26

Dave Bonta bontasaurus at yahoo.com
Sat May 17 11:39:43 EDT 2008


Fortunately, the practice of kindness rarely depends upon having the right thoughts.

*uguisu ya kuso shi nagara mo hokkekyoh*

The bush warbler
intones the Lotus Sutra
even as it shits.

- Kobayashi Issa

> Ms. Baren misunderstands my original objections, assuming
> that by "grammar &
> rhetoric" I meant the sort of surface features
> one's sixth grade teacher
> corrects in red pen. But of course that's not what
> I'm talking about at all,
> but about empty grammatical forms put to specious
> rhetorical uses. The
> quotation that began this conversation is as bathetic as
> the poem above. I'm
> offended by this kind of language and the fact that it is
> not howled down
> even on a poetry discussion list is a mark of intellectual
> decrepitude. No
> doubt such sentiments will earn me the spit-flecked
> epithets of "sir" and
> (even more damning) "professor" again. So be it.
> 
> jd
> 
> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 8:14 AM, <shin02143 at aol.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I agree completely, Joseph. But it is important to
> alert people to the
> > danger of cults such as SGI.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Duemer <duemer at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:08 pm
> > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] World's worst poet
> >
> >  Teh stupid! Please make it stop! Buddhist
> evangelicalism! And all this
> > making nice in a poetic political correctness sort of
> way? Let's call a cult
> > a cult. My god, this is a depressing discussion. No
> wonder nobody respects
> > poets -- their brains have all turned to fucking mush.
> The grammar &
> > rhetoric of Ms. Baran's sentences in the posts
> above are evidence enough for
> > me to never credit anything she says. Complete
> twaddle. Language matters.
> > (Just an attempt to bring this thread into some sort
> of relevance for a *
> > poetry* discussion list.)
> >
> > jd
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Joseph Duemer
> > Professor of Humanities
> > Clarkson University
> > Weblog: sharpsand.net

Dave Bonta
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