[New-Poetry] World's worst poet from edward mycue

Sat May 17 17:02:30 EDT 2008

This is my last attempt to respond to this thread. My email is a nickname, a
bastardization of my name, Suzanne. Insert jokes here___.

I no longer wish to engage in acrimonious discussions about the SGI,
Buddhism, Daisaku Ikeda (UN Peace Ambassador). I was simply trying to defend
personal attacks on my Buddhist practice, my character, and other matters
not relating to poetry.

I think I provided enough entertainment and discussion fodder. Glad I could
amuse you all.

Edward, I was simply keeping you abreast of the comments made by a certain
list member -- since you asked for evidence of the "F word." I have never
met this person, and he has insulted me a few times.

[When you point a finger at another, three point back at you...insert
hackneyed remarks here_________.]

Despite our harsh words, I wish Joseph well. He's bright and opinionated.  I
was wrong to forward his remarks. I also regret upsetting anyone on this
list.

As for purposeful put-ons, perhaps you needn't jump into discussions to call
attention to what you render the "whole glossolalia of nonsense."

A lesson to us all,
The ever-unpopular
Suzanne

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 1:34 PM, edward mycue <mycueed at yahoo.com> wrote:

> dear suzanne baran,
>
> ah, now i see the phrase you object to that you have highlighted
> ("...fucking mush....") in joseph duemer's response to this whole
> glossolalia of nonsense. .
>
> but don't you see also that by jumping onto his wording that you are
> engaging in dissembling?  you are attempting changing the focus of what the
> arguement is about by resorting to what amounts to an ad hominem
> distraction.
>
> this is especially odd since your email moniker is written as
> screwzbaran at gmail.com.  "screwz" alone might refer to crazy or screwball
> or screwing, the latter another term for "fucking"--and both these latter
> often called "bad" words even though i don't think of it that way.
>
> what is going on here? it doesn't seem to be a purposeful put-on.
>
> sincerely, edward mycue
>
>
>
> *Suzanne Baran <screwzbaran at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> "Teh stupid! Please make it stop! Buddhist evangelicalism! And all this
> making nice in a poetic political correctness sort of way? Let's call a cult
> a cult. My god, this is a depressing discussion. No wonder nobody respects
> poets -- their brains have all turned to *fucking* mush. The grammar &
> rhetoric of Ms. Baran's sentences in the posts above are evidence enough for
> me to never credit anything she says. Complete twaddle. Language matters.
> (Just an attempt to bring this thread into some sort of relevance for a *
> poetry* discussion list.)"
>
> jd
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:10 AM, edward mycue <mycueed at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> i missed the "f" word referred to.  "the 'f' word" generally in my world
>> means "fuck".  i haven't been following this conversation closely; i just
>> joined this newpoetry site. i went back and looked at posts identified as
>> coming from joseph
>> and failed to locate that word. edward mycue
>> p.s. if i find it, what shall i infer?
>> *Suzanne Baran <screwzbaran at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>> At least I have the sense and common decency not to use the "F" word. Too
>> bad you don't have any poetry worth reading. Your hollow words tear down
>> others. How academic!
>>
>> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Joseph Duemer <duemer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Funny, the original post led to a story about the "world's worst poet" &
>>> he was pretty bad, but Daisaku Ikeda<http://www.sgi.org/about/president/works/exhibit.html>gives William
>>> McGonagall
>>> <http://real-us.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080516/ennew_afp/entertainmentbritainpoetryauction>serious
>>> competition. Here is an excerpt from a poem called "Poetry":
>>>
>>> This rich fountain of the spirit I call the poetic heart
>>> the poetic heart that is the source
>>> of all human creativity
>>> and power of imagination
>>> It fashions the dreams
>>> and daring and hopes of this earth
>>> creates harmony and concord
>>> It possesses a force no person whosoever can defy
>>> It transforms the wasteland within us into a fertile plain
>>>
>>> Great poems trenchantly capture the truth
>>> of that human life force
>>> that blends with and beats in rhythm
>>> with nature and the universe
>>> They overflow with compassion
>>> and feeling for all beings
>>> They rouse and call forth the poetic heart in others
>>> They bring out the flower and fragrance
>>> in human nature
>>> This I believe: restitution of the poetic heart means
>>> nothing less than transforming the coming age
>>> into the century of the human being!
>>>
>>> Ms. Baren misunderstands my original objections, assuming that by
>>> "grammar & rhetoric" I meant the sort of surface features one's sixth grade
>>> teacher corrects in red pen. But of course that's not what I'm talking about
>>> at all, but about empty grammatical forms put to specious rhetorical uses.
>>> The quotation that began this conversation is as bathetic as the poem above.
>>> I'm offended by this kind of language and the fact that it is not howled
>>> down even on a poetry discussion list is a mark of intellectual decrepitude.
>>> No doubt such sentiments will earn me the spit-flecked epithets of "sir" and
>>> (even more damning) "professor" again. So be it.
>>>
>>> jd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 8:14 AM, <shin02143 at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree completely, Joseph. But it is important to alert people to the
>>>> danger of cults such as SGI.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Joseph Duemer <duemer at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:08 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] World's worst poet
>>>>
>>>>  Teh stupid! Please make it stop! Buddhist evangelicalism! And all this
>>>> making nice in a poetic political correctness sort of way? Let's call a cult
>>>> a cult. My god, this is a depressing discussion. No wonder nobody respects
>>>> poets -- their brains have all turned to fucking mush. The grammar &
>>>> rhetoric of Ms. Baran's sentences in the posts above are evidence enough for
>>>> me to never credit anything she says. Complete twaddle. Language matters.
>>>> (Just an attempt to bring this thread into some sort of relevance for a
>>>> *poetry* discussion list.)
>>>>
>>>> jd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Joseph Duemer
>>>> Professor of Humanities
>>>> Clarkson University
>>>> Weblog: sharpsand.net
>>>>
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>>>
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>>> Clarkson University
>>> Weblog: sharpsand.net
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human greatness. A great person is someone who forges unity among human
beings through sincere dialogue, armed with a solid philosophy, feet firmly
planted on the ground. A great person is one who lives among the people and
earns their unshakable trust. Fickle popularity and temporary fads are
nothing but illusions."

Daily Encouragement - Daisaku Ikeda
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