[New-Poetry] Borges

[Anny Ballardini]

the question is if you are doing better by being slaughtered or by surviving 
and if you choose the latter if there is any possibility of saving anybody 
you know.
If you want to dismantle power you have to work from inside, this is what I 
have always thought.
Otherwise you end up being a suicide bomber,

what is strange is that he survived. I know that a friend of a friend who 
was an anthropologist interested in religions was seized and disappeared. I 
really wonder how Borges made it. They practically killed out an entire 
generation.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger Day" <rog3r.day at gmail.com>
To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &amp,Views" 
<new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Borges


> He lost his job under Peron for apparently being outspoken so maybe he
> was trying to keep his job? I don't think I'd do any different in the
> circumstances.
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 8:48 PM, David Bircumshaw
> <david.bircumshaw at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Thanks to Anny for the interesting link. Regarding Borges, I knew about
>>  his being criticised for not publicly opposing the generals, what I
>>  don't know about is the precise nature of the difficulties between him
>>  and the earlier post-war Peronist regime (under which he certainly was
>>  victimised) and how much this influenced, and compromised, his attitudes
>>  towards the deposing of its latter incarnation.
>>  Where feet are concerned, Roger, unmetrically, my own are made of sand
>>  (my peripheries have neuropathy) but where those whose feet are made of
>>  clay occur I have compassion as long as they don't tread on me as it is
>>  a rather sticky, suffocating and geologically  long-term fate to suffer.
>>
>>  Best
>>
>>  Dave
>>
>> > I think the art for art's sake is a red-herring in this context. Jorge
>>  > Luis undoubtedly supported a dictatorship (I believe he knew exactly
>>  > what he was doing) and there are many other examples: Heidegger and
>>  > von Karajan Nazis, Eliot, royalist and anti-semite. Gertrude Stein
>>  > spent  the Second World War in a secluded French villa living very
>>  > nicely, thankyou very much, in direct contrast to Claude Cahun who
>>  > actively tried to obstruct the Nazi cause
>>  > (http://www.lrb.co.uk/v29/n24/cast01_.html). All our heroes have feet
>>  > of clay. Lawrence said trust the tale and not the teller, and I urge
>>  > compassion when thinking of those who transgress.
>>  >
>>  > Roger
>>  > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Anny Ballardini 
>> <anny.ballardini at tin.it> wrote:
>>  >
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > > [..] The belief in art for art's sake, according to the Russian 
>> Communist
>>  > > theorist Georgy Plekhanov, "arises when artists and also people 
>> keenly
>>  > > interested in art are hopelessly out of harmony with their social
>>  > > environment." [...]
>>  > > 
>> http://dailyscare.com/2751/on-the-trail-of-jorge-luis-borges-in-buenos-aires
>>  > >
>>
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