Fwd: [New-Poetry] As to ....

Steve Moore s.allen.moore at mac.com
Fri Mar 7 02:20:42 EST 2008


Thanks for the illumination Robin. I feel brighter and and somehow  
more attractive now.

S. Allen Moore

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Robin Hamilton <robin.hamilton2 at btinternet.com>
> Date: March 6, 2008 4:38:46 PM AKST
> To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &amp;	Views" <new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu 
> >
> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] As to ....
> Reply-To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &amp;	Views" <new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu 
> >
>
> From: "Steve Moore" <s.allen.moore at mac.com>
>
>>> the same reason why Brits have a different take on Robert Frost to  
>>> USAmericans
>>
>> I feel a bit shy about asking this, as though I should know, but I  
>> was wondering if you could explain what you mean by the Brit take  
>> on  Frost, just for my own edification. I've never encountered a  
>> literary  brit who didn't speak highly of Frost (of course, my  
>> experience is  limited).
>>
>> S. Allen Moore
>
> You're entirely right, Steve, that Brits think highly of Frost [who  
> couldn't? he's a wonderful poet] but Frost is *unique in USAmerica,  
> while in Britland, he would be part of a tradition.
>
> [Think Thomas Hardy, who for me is the supreme poet in this area.   
> Apples and oranges, admittedly, but for me, there's a range of  
> metrical outreach in Hardy that's not there in Frost.]
>
> Then there's how Frost developed out of his encounter with Edward  
> Thomas, the two walking the Downs and reciting poetry to each other.
>
> There's a whole matrix in England (Robert Graves, the Georgians)  
> that doesn't exist in the States, that would encompass Frost.  And  
> right on to Philip Larkin, god help us here.
>
>           :-(
>
> {Geoffrey Hill might be the strongest living voice in that tradition  
> in the UK.}
>
> ... so Frost *has to be seen differently here (as with langpo --  
> scan J.H.Prynne -- and New Formalism, here as contrasted to there  
> where you are).
>
> But this is my particular take -- there are other Brits on this list  
> who would read it differently, I'd guess.
>
> I stand (and would love to be) corrected.
>
> Robin
>
> (Totally personal aside -- if there is for me, as a Scottish poet, a  
> USAmerican poet who does something metrically among other things  
> that interests me that I can't find elsewhere, it would be John Crow  
> Ransom. Which undoubtedly says much about my preconceptions and  
> predelictions.
>
> The closest here to Ransom would be William Empsom, but he's so much  
> drier and dustier ...
>
> R.}
>

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