[New-Poetry] when metacriticism goes bad

[Halvard Johnson]

Or how about "post derriere" poets?--those who no longer guard
their rears. Or "post postal" poets?--those who no longer use the
mails to disseminate their works. Or "post toasties" poets?--those
who still eat those crispy little things. Or "post nasal drip" poets,
or  . . .

Hal

"Music is continuous. Only listening
  is intermittent."
                 --Henry David Thoreau

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On Feb 10, 2008, at 10:27 AM, JforJames at aol.com wrote:

> I agree there's some good stuff in the give and take. Harriet a blog  
> I often check in with, because it seems to make a point of having  
> disparate set of characters doing blogging. Where else would you  
> find A.E. Stallings, Major Jackson, Christian Bok, et al, in any  
> sort of proximity or potential colloquy.
>
> I resist the need to strictly define 'post avant' (and thus fence  
> out certain poets) in such an early stage of its emergence. I know  
> these categorizations can be useful in identifying trends and  
> fashions, but it makes me crazy when people get territorial before  
> time has a chance to settle things out a bit. The 'post' prefix,  
> being a graft from 'post-modern' means or certainly implies a wide  
> and unwieldy set of practices. So does the list of names matter as  
> much as trying to identify some of the practices that might be in  
> play under heading 'post avant'?
>
> Pedigree also seems to matter too much. Or maybe it's like Adam  
> getting to name the animals. Their can only be one Adam, it seems.
> Finnegan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Lott <chris.lott at gmail.com>
> Bcc: jforjames at aol.com
> Sent: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 6:33 pm
> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] when metacriticism goes bad
>
> On the whole, I found it to be quite an interesting discussion. I am
> inclined to be averse to Mlinko based on some past correspondence,
> which may be the source of my perception that she was basically
> subjected to a good old-fashioned smackdown for about the first half
> of the argument, then it took a strange turn that I don't really
> understand and I no longer know what either she nor Shepherd think.
>
> I see her as having an outsized and idealized view of writing poetry
> as a historical political act. I'm sure she would point out how
> misguided I am. Maybe it comes from being too young to have
> experienced it and living in a time where that kind of thing is so
> impossible as to seem that it must have ever been so. It seems to me
> that when politics enters the picture, the poetry gets shoved out the
> back door.
>
> c
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2008 6:00 PM,  <jforjames at aol.com> wrote:
> > http://poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2008/02/who_you_callin_postavant.html
> >
> >  You wouldn't know a 'post avant' if one hit you in head.
> >
> >  I was 'post avant' before you were a gleam in your mama's eye.
> >
> >  Some of my best friends are 'post avants'.
> >
> >  'Post avant' up yours!
> >
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