[New-Poetry] Advice -- Film/Lit course w "Poetry" angle

[Roger Day]

Also, thinking about this, I think it's no coincident that poets like
Apollinaire started dividing the page up visually just at the time
that photography and film hove into view. Then there's collage and
montage, both being introduced into poetry and film. Surrealism,
dadaism, each find themselves at play in literature then film and
photography. The circuit back found that portraiture and landscape in
painting being profoundly changed by film. I wonder how this affected
poetry? It's pace, it's narrative. Both film and poetry happen in a
linear fashion but film, suddenly, starts swapping and changing. So we
have concrete poetry, visual poetry but also "flash poetry", i.e.
poets who compose for the Web with Flash animations.

I think also that poetry loses it's voice of the tribe position. In
America, possibly, film begins to colonise the mythic life of a
nation. In England, I think, the BBC occupies the same position. See
Charge Of The Light Brigade. See any amount of praise poetry. At the
time of the English Civil War, poets would naturally celebrate events.
I don't think that's the case now. Such things are more effectively
done via television.

And so on and so forth.

Roger

On 8/12/08, Roger Day <rog3r.day at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think you sell it short too. I don't think it is all biog or
> voice-over. I think Jean Cocteau deserves a look at. Poet and
> film-maker. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blood_of_a_Poet - but
> my list is there.
>
> Roger
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Robin Hamilton
> <robin.hamilton2 at btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> V aroused the politicos to have questions in the house, IIRC. It's not
> >> so much that I hate these films, but I think the lists that
> >> concentrate on biography do not do justice to the connection between
> >> these arts.
> >>
> >> Roger
> >
> > It was the naughty words wot raised the questions, as I remember, other than
> > anything substantive in the film.  Go figure.  Harrison was already past his
> > best when he perpetrated it.
> >
> > V is only biography insofar as it uses Harrison's much-smudged personal
> > biography as the material -- otherwise it's basically a voice over (or out
> > of) a talking head, as such not terribly innovative.
> >
> > TW3 did it before, and better.
> >
> > Un Chien Andalou?
> >
> > Intersect between a poet and a film-maker happens but rarely, why we come
> > back to "Night Mail".
> >
> > Otherwise, I can see why you want to scream, it's either voice-over (and
> > even "Night Mail" skates on the edge of that) or gossip.
> >
> > K, sera ...
> >
> > R.
> > _______________________________________________
> > New-Poetry mailing list
> > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
> > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry
> >
>
>
>
> --
> My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/
> "I began to warm and chill
> to objects and their fields"
> Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
>


-- 
My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/
"I began to warm and chill
to objects and their fields"
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds