[New-Poetry] conspiracies

[Judy Prince]

"....the writer makes the mistake of assuming that there's a coherent,
systematic policy behind it...."
Yes, you've put your finger on (most of) it---that "they" purposefully,
deviously and cleverly engineered the (carefully selected) bits revealed.
 I'm sure there's a fallacy label, perhaps a twist on post hoc ergo propter
hoc, that applies to the writer's logic; I just don't know what it is.

It seems to be the converse of how most of us reason about our heroes:  that
they were/are somehow Super Prescient of their futures, plotting actions
accordingly.  Most Christians are presumed to believe that underpins the man
Jesus' life path and power.  These days, in Barack Obama's case, it would
seem near the truth.  <g>

Judy


2008/8/8 David Bircumshaw <david.bircumshaw at ntlworld.com>

>  Judy
>
> I picked on the piece as a fascinating piece of craziness. That there has
> been a long and dubious association between the Secret Services and a
> succession of British writers and intellectuals is though a matter of known
> record, the writer makes the mistake of assuming that there's a coherent,
> systematic policy behind it.
>
>  Hmmmm.....
>  I just read the interminable site Birk URL'ed---the equivalent of
> listening to USA's post-midnight AM talk radio that's loaded with
> obsessed-about-conspiracies dudes.  The topics often are crop circles,
> aliens from outerspace landing at Roslyn Air Force Base, and the
> Rockefellers and Rothschilds at the centre of the intrigues.
>
>  Re the intellectuals vilified in this piece and some others not skewered
> in it, it's fascinating as well as profoundly negativing to get biog-data on
> them.  Many of them, as foggy-thinking as any other folks on drugs, manage
> to take over impressive hunks of our cultures and wrestle them to the ground
> with impunity.  It's a mistake to think that intellectuals, like actors, are
> good to follow.  Some intellectuals have the ear of wealthy folk, if they're
> not themselves wealthy; hence, they're in the catbird seat to set up the
> artists and lifestyles they favour.  As with many conspiracy theorists' spun
> rationality, then, there is a bit of logical reasoning in this theorist's
> conclusions.  On balance, though, I think, these amazing and energetic
> little manifestoes are a fascinating art form if you haven't been exposed to
> them much.  After that, well, it'll feel natural to turn off the radio,
> smile, and go to sleep.  However, it would be well to pick out the pieces of
> this theorist's argument that "resonate".  Few folks are entirely nutty, as
> you know from knowing yourself and your own family members and friends.
>  Locking out all of their fervent theses might be shortsighted.
>
>  Judy
>
> 2008/8/7 Anny Ballardini <anny.ballardini at tin.it>
>
>>  David Bircumshaw forwarded the following link to another list, I just
>> scrolled it quickly but what I read seems quite interesting:
>> http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/aquarian.htm
>>
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>> I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing
>> star!
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