[New-Poetry] Visual poetry

[jforjames at aol.com]

Wouldn't you say that in visual art that the?collage elements, generally speaking,?can still be individually recognized? Like a torn corner of sheet music,?an swatch of ornate wallpaper, a train schedule,?a flattened beer can, etc. In most art collages there is both the 'all-at-once' effect that Jim C mentioned, but also a very compelling draw to look closely at the elements themselves,?to mentally isolate certain bits & pieces, even to the point of ?'reading' the words (when words are part of a particular element.

That may or may not be true in text cut-ups, particularly if you are using single words/half phrases from an obscure?text. If you cut up?a speech from Hamlet and rearrange the words/phrases, they're likely to retain some echo or familiarity. Not so much if the pieces come from page 4 of two-year old?newspaper. 

In music you now have mashups, too...is there an?analog in poetry?
Finnegan


-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Day <rog3r.day at gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Visual poetry



Collage in writing - to my limited understanding - is usually a
disjoint set of phrases. Burroughs cut-ups, etc. Sound-sense not
required, indeed, discouraged by it's very disjointedness. An
anti-music if you will.

Heading into the visual, into collage, vizpo begins to be
indiscernible from collage. Indeed, looking at the work that started
this thread, it is collage. Looked at from this angle, "visual poetry"
begins to occupy a very tiny plinth, almost disappearing up it's own
fundamental.

Roger


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