[New-Poetry] Organic?

[Joseph Duemer]

Bob, you'll be interested to note that Paul Lake, in the essay I cited,
argues that metrical poets are the most "organic" because the brain works in
patterns. (I'm obviously simplifying his argument, but not misrepresenting
it, I think.)

jd

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Bob Grumman <bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net>
wrote:

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>
> TheOldMole wrote:
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> > I've always thought of the opposite of organic, in art, as /conceptual/.
> > Organic art is art that comes from the making of it, that's worked and takes
> > shape through your hands. Christo I see as conceptual rather than organic.
> > Much of Duchamp. Much of Johns.  Poetry -- I'll step out of the way nimbly,
> > and let the flying brickbats hit Jeff -- Aram Saroyan. Joan Retallack.
> >
> >  Saroyan's pwoermds are too short to be characterized organic or
> conceptual, I think.  In your sense.  They are certainly conceptual, though.
>  But conceptuality can be organic, it seems to me.  I'm sure most poets are
> partly each.  But for the opposite of organic, I'd cite Pope, all
> formalists, really.  When I make my own long division poems, I have a strong
> sense of when one is coming out mechanically, when organically.  It's all
> subjective, though.
>
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Joseph Duemer
Professor of Humanities
Clarkson University
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