[New-Poetry] terror dactyls
Halvard Johnson
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Sat Apr 5 10:38:33 EST 2008
Yawn, indeed.
4 Subprime-Mortgage Sonnets
i.
talent for vanishing
dance suites
repossessed pulque
bars, luxury-class
rigors of cold
climate
who's that on tenor?
ii.
backroom brawls
back in the news
raunchy endeavors
under review
local calls at long-
distance rates
empty before filling
iii.
away all boats
ask me about
red houses all
in a row
tonight's rock
concerto
cancelled
iv.
glossy enlargements
no extra cost
some ice cubes
on a blanket
your house or
mine?
Hungry, a country?
Hal
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On Apr 5, 2008, at 11:26 AM, David Graham wrote:
> These discussions sometimes make me scratch my head, but more often
> they just make my eyes glaze over. I agree with John Jeffrey, as it
> happens, but so what? I'm very interested in whether or not a given
> poem is a good one. But whether it is or is not a sonnet?
> Yawn . . . .
>
> I'm content when someone says that a sonnet must have 14 lines and a
> rhyme scheme; and I'm equally happy when Gerald Stern insists that a
> sonnet is simply a "little song" and need have no particular shape.
> I probably wouldn't follow his example myself, but again: who
> cares? And why?
>
> Show me the poems, not the dictionary, I say.
>
> Why, here's one now:
>
> September, 1999
>
> I was thinking about pears—or you were—I
> don't remember who first started to think,
> though you said Seckle pears and I said Bartlett
> and nothing I could do could budge you; I
> could cut the skin so quickly and keep it so thin
> the light goes through it, and I held it to the light
> to catch the rose, and I knew when the core was
> already brown and it was spreading just by
> touching the flesh, and sometimes the neck was gone,
> as far as eating, though you would call it the nose,
> you with your Seckles, you with your freckles, and no one
> but me has quite such pleasure extruding the stem,
> and no one I know puts a pear in his coat pocket
> when he goes out in the rain, as I do, though what
> was the pleasure eating in sheets of water compared to
> the loneliness eating by yourself, and even though
> hornets were in your bowl and ten or twenty
> were crawling over a rotten peach and three or
> four were already after my pear since it was
> autumn again and hornets were dying and they were
> angry, and drunk, I just wiped them away.
>
> -- Gerald Stern. American Sonnets. Norton, 2002.
>
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> On Apr 4, 2008, at 10:15 PM, John Jeffrey wrote:
>> These are the discussions that make me scratch my head. Why the
>> argument against the idea that a sonnet has a certain form--which,
>> yes, is flexible to a point, but a poem that wants to live in the
>> sonnet neighborhood has to conform to the rules in some major way.
>> (I bet that word "rules" really set some teeth on edge, eh?)
>> Otherwise it's simple: it's not a sonnet. A chicken liver dropped
>> on the cat's back is not a sonnet. Neither is a toaster. And
>> neither is fourteen single word lines. You can call it a sonnet,
>> but it ain't. Nor is this post a sonnet. Nor is it a haiku. It's
>> not a earlobe either. Even if I insist.
>>
>> Now where is that cat?
>>
>> John
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