[New-Poetry] Aesthetic Diversity in Poetry Today

[Halvard Johnson]

"Established avantgardists"--now there's an oxymoron to
reckon with.

Hal

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On Sep 5, 2007, at 12:18 PM, jforjames at aol.com wrote:

> In this arena for aesthetic diversity, I notice that New Formalism  
> seems to be unrepresented in this forum. Is that movement 'So over'  
> already? Unless one counts rhymester Kay Ryan? But I don't really  
> think of her as strongly formal. Though I know
> she's been championed by Dana Gioia among others with formal leanings.
>
> No old formalists for that matter either. Wilbur is one of the last  
> standing...perhaps he was invited but declined.
>
> David Graham's 'ultratalkers' are MIA as well. And the Post-Avants,  
> who are so active in the blogosphere, are likewise
> not present and accounted for. Unless they're going to patched into  
> the discussion via WebX.
>
> Nada performance or slam poets.
>
> Not even a nod to Hispanic influences.
>
> It's not possible that every nook & cranny of contemporary poetics  
> be represented. but I think the 'snooze factor' does have a lot to  
> do with fact the forum is packed with eminences from the mainstream  
> free verse establishment and 2 established avantgardists (Hejinian  
> and Mackey).
> Finnegan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rsgwynn1 at cs.com
> To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu
> Sent: Tue, Sep 4 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Aesthetic Diversity in Poetry Today
>
> In a message dated 9/4/2007 5:18:29 PM Central Daylight Time,  
> JforJames at aol.com writes:
>>
>> Original post was just this announcement:
>>
>>
>> http://www.poets.org/page.php/prmID/380 Poets Forum: Aesthetic  
>> Diversity in Poetry Today
>> Saturday, October 20
>> 10 a.m. - 5 p.m.
>> 4 sessions &a reception
>>
>> Be there as some of the most important poets of our time explore  
>> questions central to poetry today. Intimate panels will discuss  
>> such issues as originality in poetry, poetic lineage, clarity and  
>> obscurity in poetry, and unlikely influences that have shaped  
>> poets’ work. Audience Q &A to follow.
>>
>> Frank Bidart
>> Rita Dove
>> Robert Hass
>> Lyn Hejinian
>> Galway Kinnell
>> Nathaniel Mackey
>> Sharon Olds
>> Carl Phillips
>> Robert Pinsky
>> Kay Ryan
>> Gerald Stern
>> Susan Stewart
>> James Tate
>> Ellen Bryant Voigt
>>
>
> Oh. Zzzzzzzzzzz.  Tate and Ryan might provide some diversion, though.
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