[New-Poetry] SUNY BUFFALO LIST

Sat Nov 10 20:34:13 EST 2007

It does what it should, want, I guess. It has a culture, function, as anything does. Knocking head against wall and should better think these things through silently (as they are my questions). I suppose if one wants to change anything one should go about taking the time and making the investment - the attempting to invent sort of thing, marketplace of ideas, as they say. "All baby steps..."

  agj

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Today's Topics:

1. SUNY BUFFALO LIST (Alexander Jorgensen)
2. Re: SUNY BUFFALO LIST (Bob Grumman)
3. Re: Re: Where are the war poets? (Halvard Johnson)
4. Kooser (David Graham)

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From: Alexander Jorgensen 
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Many of us have talked among ourselves about how our postings, which aren't flares, do not make it to the list. I would be curious to know how rampant this might be. Is there some sort of collusion involved? I don't know.

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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:39:27 -0500
From: Bob Grumman 
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] SUNY BUFFALO LIST
To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views"

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Some of mine haven't made it. I am sure it's some kind of computer 
glitch. It seems random. Several years of archives have also 
disappeared--unless they've been brought back since I last checked.

--Bob

Alexander Jorgensen wrote:
> Many of us have talked among ourselves about how our postings, which 
> aren't flares, do not make it to the list. I would be curious to know 
> how rampant this might be. Is there some sort of collusion involved? I 
> don't know.
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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:52:07 -0600
From: Halvard Johnson 
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Re: Where are the war poets?
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And some of them are here--

http://www.poetsagainstthewar.org/default.asp

Hal

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On Nov 6, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Halvard Johnson wrote:

> Try Keith Wilson's Grave Registry (Grove Press),
> Midwatch (Sumac?) or the expanded version of
> those more recently out from a press the name of
> which escapes me (I think it's in Montana). Very
> good Korean War (ahem, Police Action) work.
>
> Hal
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> Halvard Johnson
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> http://www.hamiltonstone.org
> http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard/vidalocabooks.html
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>
> On Nov 6, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Richard Wilsnack wrote:
>
>> Sam Gwynn wrote,
>>
>> "If a poet wants to get across the reality of a contemporary war 
>> (as Turner does) there is the huge stumbling block of instantaneous 
>> media coverage. Still, this doesn't explain the absence of Korean 
>> War poetry, which certainly provided enough amazing imagery (those 
>> shit-fertilized rice fields) to inspire my junior high school 
>> teachers (who were of that generation) but not the poets."
>>
>> There is an anthology titled Retrieving Bones: Stories and Poems of 
>> the Korean War, edited by W. D. Erhart & Philip K. Jason (Rutgers 
>> University Press, 1999), which includes poems by William Childress, 
>> Rolando Hinojosa, James Magner Jr., Reg Saner, William Wantling, 
>> and Keith Wilson. I don't have access to a copy, so I don't know 
>> about how directly the poems relate to the war, but it might be 
>> worth the effort to track down a copy of the book.
>>
>> Richard W. Wilsnack
>> rwilsnac at medicine.nodak.edu
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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:14:22 -0600
From: David Graham 
Subject: [New-Poetry] Kooser
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David Mason appreciates the work of Ted Kooser for *The Dark Horse*, 
a Scottish journal I recently discovered. The article is in a PDF 
file, address below. The main magazine page is here:

http://www.star.ac.uk/darkhorse.html

http://www.star.ac.uk/darkhorse/archive/MasonOnKooser.pdf

Here's a snippet:

" It’s a great poem ["That Was I," fr. *Delights & Shadows*] without 
making any big gestures at greatness. It has all of Ted’s wisdom in 
it, his compassion and skepticism and respect for life. If you open 
yourself to what this poetry offers, you have to admit that much of 
what seems so simple is deceptively so. For this reason, Ted is 
commonly compared to Frost, and while his vision is not quite Frost’s 
and his technique is less inclined to the sort of formal mastery 
Frost espoused, he is indeed a writer who repays re-reading even 
while he speaks to us directly on a first hearing. Critics who bypass 
Kooser, thinking him insufficiently complex, are missing a rigorous, 
original American voice."

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