From anny.ballardini at tin.it Thu Mar 1 12:06:07 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:06:07 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Cynthia Rylant Message-ID: <002a01c75c23$e72634c0$bc2bb750@ANNY> Welcome to American Life in Poetry. For information on permissions and usage, or to download a PDF version of the column, visit www.americanlifeinpoetry.org. ****************************** American Life in Poetry: Column 101 BY TED KOOSER, U.S. POET LAUREATE, 2004-2006 Wax Lips Todd's Hardware was dust and a monkey-- a real one, on the second floor-- and Mrs. Todd there behind the glass cases. We stepped over buckets of nails and lawnmowers to get to the candy counter in the back, and pointed at the red wax lips, and Mary Janes, and straws full of purple sugar. Said goodbye to Mrs. Todd, she white-faced and silent, and walked the streets of Beaver, our teeth sunk hard in the wax, and big red lips worth kissing. "Wax Lips" by Cynthia Rylant from WAITING TO WALTZ. Copyright (c) 2001 by Cynthia Rylant. Reprinted with permission of the author, whose most recent book of poetry is "Ludie's Life," Harcourt, 2006. This weekly column is supported by The Poetry Foundation, The Library of Congress, and the Department of English at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. This column does not accept unsolicited poetry. ****************************** Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anny.ballardini at tin.it Thu Mar 1 15:28:28 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:28:28 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Special Issue RIAS on 'The Cultural Significance of Modernity in the Americas' Message-ID: <007701c75c40$2c4a07e0$bc2bb750@ANNY> > From: Pawel Jedrzejko [mailto:jedrzej at us.edu.pl] > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:52 PM March 15, 2007. Special Issue RIAS on 'The Cultural Significance of Modernity in the Americas' The third issue of Review of International American Studies will focus on the cultural significance of modernity in the context of the Americas, and its interpellation in the cultures and peoples of both Old and New Worlds. If the 15th century clash that was the cultural encounter of Discovery describes the origins of modernity, then the birth of modernity and its aftermath represent a potentially fruitful avenue for comparative cultural investigation. The study of culture in traditional academic contexts has historically been undertaken within the prescribed parameters of the nation-state and its official language, as well as within neatly demarcated chronological divides. With the advent of the new intellectual paradigm of the Americas, however, these seemingly stable categories and divisions have increasingly come into question, especially when considered in relation to the actual historical record, in which the many encounters and engagements of disparate peoples of the Americas across nations, languages, cultures and centuries often transcend the conventional academic boundaries that would seek to contain them. Considering the meaning of modernity in the Americas from this perspective opens up many possibilities for cross-cultural, multilingual, and transnational dialogue not realizable in more traditional contexts, highlighting the interactions not only of diverse peoples of the New World, but also their encounters with those of the Old. We are particularly interested in essays and short position papers that explore historical points of contact or convergence between two or more peoples of the Americas or between peoples of both the New and the Old Worlds, essays that examine the academic significance of considering the interrelationships between historical periods, or essays that consider the conflict between the Americas as a new intellectual paradigm and traditional academic contexts. We encourage online submissions via the RIAS electronic submission platform. To contribute, please register/log in with the RIAS website and then follow the instructions on the site by clicking on the following links in the menu: submitting texts->submit a text. Or for questions, suggestions for topics, or paper proposals, and the like, you may also contact the RIAS guest editor Cyraina Johnson-Roullier at johnson.64 at nd.edu. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halvard at earthlink.net Thu Mar 1 16:57:25 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:57:25 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Hamilton Stone Review, Issue 11, Winter 2007, Now Online! Message-ID: <5CA56381-8FC2-480C-A2E7-2EED3FEEBBAC@earthlink.net> ********************************************************** Hamilton Stone Review, Issue 11, Winter 2007, Now Online! Featuring nonfiction by Jim Murphy; fiction by Julie Compton, Marilyn Coffey, Suzanne McConnell, Harold Klapper, and Sybil Kollar; and poetry by Maxianne Berger, Roger Day, Andrew Burke, Sally Van Doren, James Davies, Simon Perchik, Mary Rising Higgins, Rodney Nelson, Elizabeth Kate Switaj, Jason Wilkinson, Michael Young, R. L. Swihart, Maurice Oliver, and Chanming Yuan. http://www.hamiltonstone.org/hsr11.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- Submissions to the Hamilton Stone Review Hamilton Stone Review invites submissions of both poetry and fiction for Issue #12, which will be out in June 2007. Poetry submissions should go, only by email, directly to Halvard Johnson at halvard at earthlink.net. Send fiction submissions to Lynda Schor at lynda.schor at gmail.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Hamilton Stone Review is produced by Hamilton Stone Editions http://www.hamiltonstone.org/ PLEASE SEND THIS ALONG TO OTHERS From anny.ballardini at tin.it Fri Mar 2 03:50:39 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:50:39 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] from the Writer's Almanac Message-ID: <002301c75ca7$da845d30$20a93852@ANNY> Poem: "The Shipfitter's Wife" by Dorianne Laux, from Smoke. ? BOA Editions. Reprinted with permission. (buy now) The Shipfitter's Wife I loved him most when he came home from work, his fingers still curled from fitting pipe, his denim shirt ringed with sweat and smelling of salt, the drying weeds of the ocean. I'd go to where he sat on the edge of the bed, his forehead anointed with grease, his cracked hands jammed between his thighs, and unlace the steel-toed boots, stroke his ankles and calves, the pads and bones of his feet. Then I'd open his clothes and take the whole day inside me - the ship's gray sides, the miles of copper pipe, the voice of the foreman clanging off the hull's silver ribs. Spark of lead kissing metal. The clamp, the winch, the white fire of the torch, the whistle, and the long drive home. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From asurkont at localnet.com Fri Mar 2 04:18:27 2007 From: asurkont at localnet.com (Amanda Surkont) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 04:18:27 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Shipfitter's Wife In-Reply-To: <002301c75ca7$da845d30$20a93852@ANNY> References: <002301c75ca7$da845d30$20a93852@ANNY> Message-ID: One of my favorite poems. Thanks for posting. best, manda On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:50:39 -0500, Anny Ballardini wrote: > Poem: "The Shipfitter's Wife" by Dorianne Laux, from Smoke. ? BOA > Editions. Reprinted with permission. (buy now) > > The Shipfitter's Wife > > I loved him most > when he came home from work, > his fingers still curled from fitting pipe, > his denim shirt ringed with sweat > and smelling of salt, the drying weeds > of the ocean. I'd go to where he sat > on the edge of the bed, his forehead > anointed with grease, his cracked hands > jammed between his thighs, and unlace > the steel-toed boots, stroke his ankles > and calves, the pads and bones of his feet. > Then I'd open his clothes and take > the whole day inside me - the ship's > gray sides, the miles of copper pipe, > the voice of the foreman clanging > off the hull's silver ribs. Spark of lead > kissing metal. The clamp, the winch, > the white fire of the torch, the whistle, > and the long drive home. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Anny Ballardini > http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ > http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome > http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html > I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing > star! > Friedrich Nietzsche -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From skip at louisiana.edu Fri Mar 2 13:13:55 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:13:55 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Bumpersticker du jour: In-Reply-To: <45E47A6D.6050303@starve.org> Message-ID: <000201c75cf6$9004eaa0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> YAHWEH'Z A RAPPA! Interestingly, I found out that the Canadian poet, Christian Bok, likes good rap. Especially Eminem. (So do I.) From jorgensen_a at yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 15:04:31 2007 From: jorgensen_a at yahoo.com (Alexander Jorgensen) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:04:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [New-Poetry] LIST SERVS In-Reply-To: <200703021700.l22H04t6027078@wiz.cath.vt.edu> Message-ID: <20070302200431.71036.qmail@web54613.mail.yahoo.com> I just realized something, this returning to States for few weeks and seeing that hope dissolved at the risk of too much self-absorbtion. And I don't know what's happened to SUNY BUFFALO, but I need any info you got. I mean, this is THE BRAIN TRUST. Burning trails, agj --- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail From bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Fri Mar 2 16:22:19 2007 From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net (Bob Grumman) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:22:19 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] LIST SERVS References: 20070302200431.71036.qmail@web54613.mail.yahoo.com Message-ID: <003a01c75d10$dde34ef0$e3fad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> >I just realized something, this returning to States > for few weeks and seeing that hope dissolved at the > risk of too much self-absorbtion. And I don't know > what's happened to SUNY BUFFALO, but I need any info > you got. > I mean, this is THE BRAIN TRUST. > > Burning trails, > agj Dunno what you mean, Alexander--the POETICS listserv is still there doing what it's been doing for the past few years, as far as I can tell. Brain Trust? Well, maybe compared to the New Yorker or the Harvard english Department. --Bob G. From anny.ballardini at tin.it Sat Mar 3 00:41:35 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 06:41:35 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Australian poets Message-ID: <001401c75d57$0e97b630$ebde3052@ANNY> Exporting from Poetryetc: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21296782-5001986,00.html Why we are a nation of poets There is something about this country and its people that agrees with poetry, writes Peter Craven -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hammerword2000 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Mar 3 10:39:32 2007 From: hammerword2000 at yahoo.co.uk (gbemi tijani-mst) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:39:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [New-Poetry] IDOWU OGUNMEFUN- A DRAMATIC POET THAT SUMMONED THE PSALMIST & THE PHILOSOPER TO HIS TOMB Message-ID: <20070303153932.15181.qmail@web26005.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> After the funeral rites ... nb this is memoir no 1 only- TO NEW POETRY REVIEWS AND VIEWS FROM GBEMI TIJANI - MST This trepidatory reflections will be in two parts when the intermen memoirs would have been drained of details of incredible scenes -spiritual,cultural -coincidenttal?-No Not really but surely transcedental...as it would be for any translated friend or admirer -in and out of stage ,mentor to a few Phd guys ...As i earlier said my mind is still clogged with sequential reasoning and it wont be tangetial to IDOWU OGUNMEFUN's philosophical arguemnet style .He 's a dogged student as well as a lecturer of theartre arts basics & Use of English at the under graduate levels.Besides he's been involved in more than 35 dramatic productions as a stage manager,actor,director and several miscellany significant to a stage drama for both academic and commercial audience -before his demise precisely mid-february.In the interim we thank the Creator Supreme for his life-his rare psychological dispositions devoid of bitterness despite any difference in the berthing position of his peers or lay friends in EXISTENTIALIST THEORY...He's been labelled as the author of THE ANTIMONY OF EXISTENTIALISTS AND HUMANISM -the thesis work he was unable to viva voce ...However he would complete and submit this in the great beyond ...Yet i wasn't sure he was trying to hypothesise that there was no heaven nor is there a paradise after death -especially cell death-cessation of somatic physiology,biochemistry and all the scietific indicators of modern science... My mind is still boggled ....till the 2nd part of this witnessed funeral memoir barely a week at the U.I.Catholic church and the Sango cemetry oratory by his fraterninty and the priest concluding concecrations at the sepulcre..O Death is just literally wicked -thouigh no news that it is a necessary end..It doesn't even consider the harvest time for the anthology of toiling from diploma to the mnultiple Bachelor's ,Master's and plus or minus Doctoral degree levels...Life is a mystery just as struggle for or quest at an intellectual cum top-notch career target is a paradox of endeavour ,of becoming somebody or relatively of identity depending on one's outlook or family status or Holy Spirit 's leading .Or again as the Yoruba-africans will wittily say :BA O KU I SE O TAN - translating to unless one dies ther's no end to doing! May God deliver men and women from all inherent imperfections of poetry or philosophy that will always or could sometoimes impact not too positively -yet not too benign values,illusions,desiderata that could be timelessly a raw material for thesis works but may not spiritually,psycho-biologically empowering in holistic survival...His old chums at St Charles Grammar School at Oshogbo practically in their diverse callings in Microbiollogy,public health,marketing of this or that that are equally of social and life -supportive demands anytime anywhere as much as living on academics in a milieu that does not copiously cushion basic allowances let alone work out suitable emoluments that should support a functional academic professional... O lamentation is for the living ...Or is Watteson totally correct -if ,of course his view of the deceased and his survivors are to be taken JUST LIKE THAT If my friends have alabaster boxes laid away full of fragrant perfumes or sympathy and affection that they intend to break over my dead body, I would rather they would bring them in my weary and troubled hours and open them that I might be cheered and refreshed by them when I need them. I would rather have a plain coffin without a flower, a funeral without a eulogy, than a life without the fragrance of love and sympathy. -Watterson A POET SUMMONED THE PSALMIST AND THE PHILOSOPHER TO HIS TOMB IDOWU OGUNMEFUNBA,MATheatre Arts (PhD in ?View, 1957-2007) Most sustainable theatre artist, longest - laughing seeker and finder of the truth of life, perennially one of the most inexorable philosopher ?poet that eventually believed Christ as his Lord and Saviour.His baptismal name ?John re-echoed several times during the final burial rites at The Seat Of Wisdom Catholic Church of the University of Ibadan - where IDOWU fondly called I.D. roamed through the literary and theatre worlds .He could be labeled a doubter ?an agnostic for some years but he was actually never an atheist .It surprised and buoyed many of his friends and surely his senior colleagues in Theater Arts Department too that such a bundle of social poetry and practical philosophy ,undaunted truth searcher eventually stayed in a church, yield to baptismal rites and accepted Christianity without jettisoning the Sea Dog?s Fraternity. --------------------------------- All New Yahoo! 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A cut or slag you'd wish had been > printed on the backcover of a book that you'd rather have > not read. > > So here's one to start... > > A pity, but I couldn't bear to go back into these pages even to save my > favorite bookmark. > > Finnegan > > In a message dated 3/3/2007 4:50:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, > skip at louisiana.edu writes: > > Everyone must be > > at AWP > > save me > > and thee. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at *AOL.com*. > > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > > -- "Memory believes before knowing remembers. Believes longer than recollects, longer than knowing even wonders." ?William Faulkner, Light in August http://museoffireblog.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This game is called "bad blurbs." A cut or slag you'd wish had been printed on the backcover of a book that you'd rather have not read. So here's one to start... A pity, but I couldn't bear to go back into these pages even to save my favorite bookmark. Finnegan In a message dated 3/3/2007 4:50:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, skip at louisiana.edu writes: Everyone must be at AWP save me and thee. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at louisiana.edu Sat Mar 3 18:20:34 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:20:34 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these past fewdays: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c75dea$911c7440$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> "Even my dead cat is of more interest." "Reader, pass by" "Thrash this rascal if he comes your way." -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of JforJames at aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 4:03 PM To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these past fewdays: It has been quiet. For those who are not in Atlanta, I have suggestion, let's play a game. This game is called "bad blurbs." A cut or slag you'd wish had been printed on the backcover of a book that you'd rather have not read. So here's one to start... A pity, but I couldn't bear to go back into these pages even to save my favorite bookmark. Finnegan In a message dated 3/3/2007 4:50:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, skip at louisiana.edu writes: Everyone must be at AWP save me and thee. _____ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anny.ballardini at tin.it Sat Mar 3 18:23:53 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 00:23:53 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: References: <731bb17a0703031435s558cd252pca66cea596fd47a9@mail.gmail.com> <007201c75de8$4c1f6430$81a93252@ANNY> Message-ID: <00a101c75deb$034c0580$81a93252@ANNY> "She is so coquette that the burnt omelette became a better poemette" From: Anny Ballardini Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:04 AM "Absolutely the worse tornado I have ever experimented, better the desert, my word" ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Newberry To: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &,Views Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these past fewdays: Got back yesterday. Here's my entry: "His poems are like inexpensive beer: they seem like a good idea until you open one up and notice the distinct lack of taste and depth." Jeff Newberry On 3/3/07, JforJames at aol.com wrote: It has been quiet. For those who are not in Atlanta, I have suggestion, let's play a game. This game is called "bad blurbs." A cut or slag you'd wish had been printed on the backcover of a book that you'd rather have not read. So here's one to start... A pity, but I couldn't bear to go back into these pages even to save my favorite bookmark. Finnegan In a message dated 3/3/2007 4:50:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, skip at louisiana.edu writes: Everyone must be at AWP save me and thee. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at louisiana.edu Sat Mar 3 18:24:36 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:24:36 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these past fewdays: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000a01c75deb$2191a7c0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Blurb snippets: " . . . fiercely inarticulate . . ." "An occasional stench of a mentality percolating to the surface . . ." " . . . the _e. coli_ of art . . . -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of JforJames at aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 4:03 PM To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these past fewdays: It has been quiet. For those who are not in Atlanta, I have suggestion, let's play a game. This game is called "bad blurbs." A cut or slag you'd wish had been printed on the backcover of a book that you'd rather have not read. So here's one to start... A pity, but I couldn't bear to go back into these pages even to save my favorite bookmark. Finnegan In a message dated 3/3/2007 4:50:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, skip at louisiana.edu writes: Everyone must be at AWP save me and thee. _____ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SLIDINGSCA at aol.com Sat Mar 3 18:45:10 2007 From: SLIDINGSCA at aol.com (SLIDINGSCA at aol.com) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:45:10 EST Subject: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: Message-ID: He is a master of alliterative form--the villanous villanelle, the ponderous pantoum, and the sickening sestina. In a message dated 3/3/2007 6:24:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, anny.ballardini at tin.it writes: She is so coquette that the burnt omelette became a better poemette" From: _Anny Ballardini_ (mailto:anny.ballardini at tin.it) Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:04 AM "Absolutely the worse tornado I have ever experimented, better the desert, my word" ----- Original Message ----- From: _Jeff Newberry_ (mailto:jeff.newberry at gmail.com) To: _NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &,Views_ (mailto:new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu) Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these past fewdays: Got back yesterday. Here's my entry: "His poems are like inexpensive beer: they seem like a good idea until you open one up and notice the distinct lack of taste and depth." Jeff Newberry On 3/3/07, _JforJames at aol.com_ (mailto:JforJames at aol.com) <_JforJames at aol.com_ (mailto:JforJames at aol.com) > wrote: It has been quiet. For those who are not in Atlanta, I have suggestion, let's play a game. This game is called "bad blurbs." A cut or slag you'd wish had been printed on the backcover of a book that you'd rather have not read. So here's one to start... A pity, but I couldn't bear to go back into these pages even to save my favorite bookmark. Finnegan In a message dated 3/3/2007 4:50:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, _skip at louisiana.edu_ (mailto:skip at louisiana.edu) writes: Everyone must be at AWP save me and thee. Larissa Shmailo_ slidingsca at aol.com_ (mailto:slidingsca at aol.com) _http://www.myspace.com/larissaworld_ (http://www.myspace.com/larissaworld) _http://blog.myspace.com/larissaworld_ (http://www.myspace.com/larissaworld) http//:www.cdbaby.com/cd/shmailo _http://cervenabarvapress.com/shmailointerview.htm_ (http://cervenabarvapress.com/shmailointerview.htm) _http://www.bigbridge.org/deathlshmailo.htm_ (http://www.bigbridge.org/deathlshmailo.htm)


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halvard at earthlink.net Sat Mar 3 19:17:28 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:17:28 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these past few days: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "These pages--better read uncut." Gotta go back to old-style French books for that one, but not this next. "I would horsewhip this author if I had a horse." --after Groucho Marx Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 3, 2007, at 4:02 PM, JforJames at aol.com wrote: > It has been quiet. For those who are not in Atlanta, > I have suggestion, let's play a game. This game is > called "bad blurbs." A cut or slag you'd wish had been > printed on the backcover of a book that you'd rather have > not read. > > So here's one to start... > A pity, but I couldn?t bear to go back into these pages even to > save my favorite bookmark. > > Finnegan > > In a message dated 3/3/2007 4:50:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, > skip at louisiana.edu writes: > Everyone must be > > at AWP > > save me > > and thee. > > > > > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's > free from AOL at AOL.com. > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Sat Mar 3 19:21:14 2007 From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net (Bob Grumman) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 19:21:14 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: References: 000001c75dea$911c7440$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu Message-ID: <002a01c75df3$06de8170$f3fad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> Until I read this book, I thought no one could possibly write worse poetry than Skip Fox. (Or choose your favorite.) This has the advantage of making two enemies. --Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JforJames at aol.com Sat Mar 3 21:47:07 2007 From: JforJames at aol.com (JforJames at aol.com) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:47:07 EST Subject: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these past fewdays: Message-ID: May I suggest that not all books need to be printed on acid-free paper.


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By Sigmund Freud, Civilization & its Discontents. last but not least and worst of all, from our contact with bad poetry ----- Original Message ----- From: JforJames at aol.com To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: May I suggest that not all books need to be printed on acid-free paper. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The real and symbolic movements that run at a capillary level the entire planet put into discussion in fact the unilinearity of the relationship traditionally postulated between the single, the group and the territory. By Matilde Callari Galli, Antropologia senza confini. Percorsi nella contemporaneit?, Palermo, Sellerio, 2005. ... the unilinearity of the relationship traditionally postulated between the single, the I, the me, and what should not exist, i.e. tormenting bad beings feigning they are poets ----- Original Message ----- From: JforJames at aol.com To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: May I suggest that not all books need to be printed on acid-free paper. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at louisiana.edu Sun Mar 4 13:32:03 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 12:32:03 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: In-Reply-To: <002a01c75df3$06de8170$f3fad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> Message-ID: <003d01c75e8b$6da407c0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Good. And its simple directness has much to recommend it. How 'bout: "To read Mr. Fox, one needn't be literate. One barely needs to know how to chew." Or: "At least a lobotomy, by contrast, might be of _some_ use." Or: "Skip Fox mistakes indifference for license and thus pollutes culture with his miscreant notions of verse yet once more." -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Grumman Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 6:21 PM To: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &Views Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: Until I read this book, I thought no one could possibly write worse poetry than Skip Fox. (Or choose your favorite.) This has the advantage of making two enemies. --Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at louisiana.edu Sun Mar 4 13:34:10 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 12:34:10 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004201c75e8b$b96c5c20$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Sweet. How 'bout: "The strongest argument to date for forest conservation." -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of JforJames at aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 8:47 PM To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: May I suggest that not all books need to be printed on acid-free paper. _____ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JforJames at aol.com Sun Mar 4 13:38:43 2007 From: JforJames at aol.com (JforJames at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:38:43 EST Subject: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: Message-ID: Or that cutting reviewer who said declaratively, "Skip Fox." In a message dated 3/4/2007 1:32:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, skip at louisiana.edu writes: Good. And its simple directness has much to recommend it. How ?bout: ?To read Mr. Fox, one needn?t be literate. One barely needs to know how to chew.? Or: ?At least a lobotomy, by contrast, might be of _some_ use.? Or: ?Skip Fox mistakes indifference for license and thus pollutes culture with his miscreant notions of verse yet once more.?


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anny.ballardini at tin.it Sun Mar 4 13:46:03 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:46:03 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] bad blurbs References: <245143.17420.qm@web35514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <015b01c75e8d$5c4390c0$598e3052@ANNY> Ok Ok Alexander the Great, only because you are Alexander... I will collect them on the Corner, since I have to mark tests (that is why I am reading messages and having brilliant ideas... finish proof-reading translations due tomorrow studying for tomorrow read and comment a story and it is almost 8pm and tomorrow is Monday (I can continue till you all cry warm tears... is there anybody, someone so generous to collect them and I will put them on the Corner? They are all lovely... Anny the Vampire From: "Alexander Dickow" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 6:04 PM > "A poetic tour de force, moving, full of majestic > natural imagery and landscapes." > > "[Ms. Olds/etc] clearly merits the many poetry prizes > [s]he has won." > > Jim Finnegan and/or Anny Ballardini, I *do* hope > you're recording these somewhere.... > Amicalement, > Alex > > > > www.alexdickow.net/blog/ > > les mots! ah quel d?sert ? la fin > merveilleux. -- Henri Droguet > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ciccariello at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 13:51:41 2007 From: ciccariello at gmail.com (Peter Ciccariello) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:51:41 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] the poem that makes itself Message-ID: <8f3fdbad0703041051v2244cfc7q6cf468fba17f515@mail.gmail.com> the poem that makes itself -- Peter Ciccariello Image - http://invisiblenotes.blogspot.com/ Word - http://poemsfromprovidence.blogspot.com/ Photography - http://uncommonvision.blogspot.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JforJames at aol.com Sun Mar 4 13:56:03 2007 From: JforJames at aol.com (JforJames at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:56:03 EST Subject: [New-Poetry] bad blurbs Message-ID: In a message dated 3/4/2007 1:46:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, anny.ballardini at tin.it writes: finish proof-reading translations due tomorrow Speaking of translation, how 'bout ths one... "It's often said that poetry is impossible to translate. In this case any translation would trigger an international incident."


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at louisiana.edu Sun Mar 4 14:01:06 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:01:06 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] bad blurbs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006501c75e8f$7cc75140$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Or: "I have been a lifelong opponent of censorship. For once I am given pause." -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of JforJames at aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:56 PM To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] bad blurbs In a message dated 3/4/2007 1:46:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, anny.ballardini at tin.it writes: finish proof-reading translations due tomorrow Speaking of translation, how 'bout ths one... "It's often said that poetry is impossible to translate. In this case any translation would trigger an international incident." _____ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JforJames at aol.com Sun Mar 4 14:07:39 2007 From: JforJames at aol.com (JforJames at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:07:39 EST Subject: [New-Poetry] bad blurbs Message-ID: In a message dated 3/4/2007 2:01:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, skip at louisiana.edu writes: Or: ?I have been a lifelong opponent of censorship. For once I am given pause.? That's a good one, Skip, reminds me of... I found my mind flashing on scenes from Fahrenheit 451?it was a real ? page-burner?.


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Or "I have never witnessed anyone so enamored of his (or her) own inadequacies." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anny.ballardini at tin.it Sun Mar 4 14:58:08 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:58:08 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: References: <000001c75e95$161e96f0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Message-ID: <005101c75e97$6ef01950$598e3052@ANNY> there is an expression in Italian one could use to define style: "tagliato con l'accetta" cut down with the hatchet ----- Original Message ----- From: Skip Fox To: 'NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &Views' Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: RE: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: "The difficulty of giving expression to the under realized was apparently of no concern, much less an impediment, for X. Indeed, he (or she) seems quite untroubled by its prospect. No more, perhaps, than the self-consciousness shame of a stupid child begging lemonade from the neighbor lady. A filthy 'pleeeeease' crawls up my spine with every line." Or "I have never witnessed anyone so enamored of his (or her) own inadequacies." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halvard at earthlink.net Sun Mar 4 15:23:19 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:23:19 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hmm, I think that would be "imperatively." Hal, who taught comp for far too many years "A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on." --William S. Burroughs Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 4, 2007, at 12:38 PM, JforJames at aol.com wrote: > Or that cutting reviewer who said declaratively, "Skip Fox." > > In a message dated 3/4/2007 1:32:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, > skip at louisiana.edu writes: > Good. And its simple directness has much to recommend it. > > > How ?bout: ?To read Mr. Fox, one needn?t be literate. One barely > needs to know how to chew.? > > > Or: ?At least a lobotomy, by contrast, might be of _some_ use.? > > > Or: ?Skip Fox mistakes indifference for license and thus pollutes > culture with his miscreant notions of verse yet once more.? > > > > > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's > free from AOL at AOL.com. > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SLIDINGSCA at aol.com Sun Mar 4 15:26:39 2007 From: SLIDINGSCA at aol.com (SLIDINGSCA at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 15:26:39 EST Subject: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: Message-ID: Reading X, we are drawn to ask ourselves: How important *is* universal literacy, after all? In a message dated 3/4/2007 2:58:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, anny.ballardini at tin.it writes: there is an expression in Italian one could use to define style: "tagliato con l'accetta" cut down with the hatchet ----- Original Message ----- From: _Skip Fox_ (mailto:skip at louisiana.edu) To: _'NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &Views'_ (mailto:new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu) Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: RE: [New-Poetry] Poemette on the dearth of postings these pastfewdays: ?The difficulty of giving expression to the under realized was apparently of no concern, much less an impediment, for X. Indeed, he (or she) seems quite untroubled by its prospect. No more, perhaps, than the self-consciousness shame of a stupid child begging lemonade from the neighbor lady. A filthy ? pleeeeease? crawls up my spine with every line.? Or ?I have never witnessed anyone so enamored of his (or her) own inadequacies.? ____________________________________ _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry Larissa Shmailo_ slidingsca at aol.com_ (mailto:slidingsca at aol.com) (http://w ww.myspace.com/larissaworld) http://blog.myspace.com/larissaworld http//:www.cdbaby.com/cd/shmailo (http://cervenabarvapress.com/shmailointerview.htm) http://cervenabarvapress.com/shmailointerview.htm (http://www.bigbridge.org/deathlshmailo.htm) http://www.bigbridge.org/deathlshmailo.htm


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Another celebrated Auden line - "We must love one another or die" - was annexed without his permission and used in Lyndon Johnson's notorious attack ad on Barry Goldwater in 1964, showing a little girl counting petals as she mutates into a thermonuclear countdown. The hideous scene closes with Auden's words. He was so furious at this that he removed the poem from his canon. He was prone to excise things that had been exploited or distorted Tad Richards www.opus40.org http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halvard at earthlink.net Mon Mar 5 11:29:34 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:29:34 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid, and Y'all Can Go Screw In-Reply-To: <000601c75f43$1b27cff0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> References: <000601c75f43$1b27cff0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Message-ID: <9BEDA7F5-C098-4314-9267-FA83EB69EA5F@earthlink.net> Then he could have fixed that by simply changing "or" to "and." Hal "He's the kind of guy who can brighten a room by leaving it." --Milton Berle Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 5, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Skip Fox wrote: > I heard he dropped the line (he was constantly revising) because he > found it untrue on the very simple level that we must die no matter > what. He said something to that effect if I remember correctly. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry- > bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of TheOldMole > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:22 AM > To: NewPo > Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is > Acid,and Y'all Can Go Screw > > > Has anyone ever heard this before? >From Christopher Hitchens. > > > Another celebrated Auden line ? "We must love one another or die" ? > was annexed without his permission and used in Lyndon Johnson's > notorious attack ad on Barry Goldwater in 1964, showing a little > girl counting petals as she mutates into a thermonuclear countdown. > The hideous scene closes with Auden's words. He was so furious at > this that he removed the poem from his canon. He was prone to > excise things that had been exploited or distorted > > > > Tad Richards > www.opus40.org > http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Rsgwynn1 at cs.com Mon Mar 5 11:44:43 2007 From: Rsgwynn1 at cs.com (Rsgwynn1 at cs.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:44:43 EST Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid, and Y'all Ca... Message-ID: In a message dated 3/5/2007 11:22:16 AM Central Daylight Time, tad at opus40.org writes: > Has anyone ever heard this before? From Christopher Hitchens. > > Another celebrated Auden line ? "We must love one another or die" ? was > annexed without his permission and used in Lyndon Johnson's notorious attack ad > on Barry Goldwater in 1964, showing a little girl counting petals as she > mutates into a thermonuclear countdown. The hideous scene closes with Auden's > words. He was so furious at this that he removed the poem from his canon. He > was prone to excise things that had been exploited or distorted > > Can this be verified? Very interesting. There was a long piece on Auden in the TLS a couple of weeks ago. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He said something to that effect if I remember correctly. -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of TheOldMole Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:22 AM To: NewPo Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid,and Y'all Can Go Screw Has anyone ever heard this before? >From Christopher Hitchens. Another celebrated Auden line ? "We must love one another or die" ? was annexed without his permission and used in Lyndon Johnson's notorious attack ad on Barry Goldwater in 1964, showing a little girl counting petals as she mutates into a thermonuclear countdown. The hideous scene closes with Auden's words. He was so furious at this that he removed the poem from his canon. He was prone to excise things that had been exploited or distorted Tad Richards www.opus40.org http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halvard at earthlink.net Mon Mar 5 11:54:11 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:54:11 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid, and Y'all Ca... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Verified? What means "verified"? "metaphor--I use them. They keep me regular." --Paul Violi Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 5, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Rsgwynn1 at cs.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/5/2007 11:22:16 AM Central Daylight Time, > tad at opus40.org writes: >> Has anyone ever heard this before? From Christopher Hitchens. >> >> Another celebrated Auden line ? "We must love one another or die" >> ? was annexed without his permission and used in Lyndon Johnson's >> notorious attack ad on Barry Goldwater in 1964, showing a little >> girl counting petals as she mutates into a thermonuclear >> countdown. The hideous scene closes with Auden's words. He was so >> furious at this that he removed the poem from his canon. He was >> prone to excise things that had been exploited or distorted >> > > Can this be verified? Very interesting. There was a long piece on > Auden in the TLS a couple of weeks ago. > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rsillima at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 12:02:52 2007 From: rsillima at yahoo.com (Ron Silliman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:02:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [New-Poetry] Silliman's Blog: Torqued! Message-ID: <726113.96999.qm@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ RECENT POSTS The twisted notion of torque in poetry In which the heroine doesn?t speak the language (on Irma Vep) Conjuctions at 25 The device poems of Elaine Equi http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/ From skip at louisiana.edu Mon Mar 5 12:30:41 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:30:41 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid, and Y'all Can Go Screw In-Reply-To: <009501c75f42$5a727800$6401a8c0@OldMoleExpress> Message-ID: <001c01c75f4c$05b8aa50$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> The notes in Ellmann's anthology _The Norton Anthology of Modern and Contemporary Poetry_ are wrong on occasion, but I _did_ read this elsewhere as well: "Auden later attempted to revise this line, which struck him as 'dishonest.' In one revision, the line reads 'We must love one another and die.' Another version of the poem leaves out the entire stanza." (ftnt. #4, p. 803 in vol. 1). I remember hearing he even dropped the entire poem in one version of his selected poetry, finding it unrevisable. -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of TheOldMole Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:22 AM To: NewPo Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid,and Y'all Can Go Screw Has anyone ever heard this before? From Christopher Hitchens. Another celebrated Auden line - "We must love one another or die" - was annexed without his permission and used in Lyndon Johnson's notorious attack ad on Barry Goldwater in 1964, showing a little girl counting petals as she mutates into a thermonuclear countdown. The hideous scene closes with Auden's words. He was so furious at this that he removed the poem from his canon. He was prone to excise things that had been exploited or distorted Tad Richards www.opus40.org http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Rsgwynn1 at cs.com Mon Mar 5 13:45:17 2007 From: Rsgwynn1 at cs.com (Rsgwynn1 at cs.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:45:17 EST Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid, and Y'all Ca... Message-ID: In a message dated 3/5/2007 10:45:40 AM Central Standard Time, jforjames at aol.com writes: > > Particularly during the Cold War, I would say that most readers, if they > weren't trying > to be obtuse about it, would hear an implied extension to the phrase, as > in... > "We must love one another or die (more quickly; in greater numbers; > hideously; etc.)" > > Finnegan > Search "daisy" on wikipedia.org and scroll down to the Politics section. Johnson's speechwriter (probably Moyers) altered the line from Auden. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tad at opus40.org Mon Mar 5 15:12:28 2007 From: tad at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:12:28 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid, and Y'all Can Go Screw References: <000601c75f43$1b27cff0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> <9BEDA7F5-C098-4314-9267-FA83EB69EA5F@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002001c75f62$99836f70$6401a8c0@OldMoleExpress> Hal -- he did. But that turned out to be a terrible solution. Skip -- that's what I've heard, too. I'm wondering if Hitchens just pulled this out of his ass. ----- Original Message ----- From: Halvard Johnson To: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid,and Y'all Can Go Screw Then he could have fixed that by simply changing "or" to "and." Hal "He's the kind of guy who can brighten a room by leaving it." --Milton Berle Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 5, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Skip Fox wrote: I heard he dropped the line (he was constantly revising) because he found it untrue on the very simple level that we must die no matter what. He said something to that effect if I remember correctly. -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of TheOldMole Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:22 AM To: NewPo Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid,and Y'all Can Go Screw Has anyone ever heard this before? >From Christopher Hitchens. Another celebrated Auden line ? "We must love one another or die" ? was annexed without his permission and used in Lyndon Johnson's notorious attack ad on Barry Goldwater in 1964, showing a little girl counting petals as she mutates into a thermonuclear countdown. The hideous scene closes with Auden's words. He was so furious at this that he removed the poem from his canon. He was prone to excise things that had been exploited or distorted Tad Richards www.opus40.org http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at louisiana.edu Mon Mar 5 15:19:09 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:19:09 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid, and Y'all Can Go Screw In-Reply-To: <002001c75f62$99836f70$6401a8c0@OldMoleExpress> Message-ID: <001201c75f63$8e710100$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Wouldn't surprise me. (He's go a big one. . . . metaphorically speaking, of course.) Yet it sound like something that might have been believed, something half right. Auden might have been upset with Johnson's use, but I believe his difficulties with the poem came long before. (It would be nice to document and if I get time later . . .). So, people noting his feeling about LBJ's appropriation might have conflated the two incidents. -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of TheOldMole Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:12 PM To: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &Views Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid,and Y'all Can Go Screw Hal -- he did. But that turned out to be a terrible solution. Skip -- that's what I've heard, too. I'm wondering if Hitchens just pulled this out of his ass. ----- Original Message ----- From: Halvard Johnson To: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid,and Y'all Can Go Screw Then he could have fixed that by simply changing "or" to "and." Hal "He's the kind of guy who can brighten a room by leaving it." --Milton Berle Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 5, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Skip Fox wrote: I heard he dropped the line (he was constantly revising) because he found it untrue on the very simple level that we must die no matter what. He said something to that effect if I remember correctly. -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of TheOldMole Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:22 AM To: NewPo Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid,and Y'all Can Go Screw Has anyone ever heard this before? >From Christopher Hitchens. Another celebrated Auden line - "We must love one another or die" - was annexed without his permission and used in Lyndon Johnson's notorious attack ad on Barry Goldwater in 1964, showing a little girl counting petals as she mutates into a thermonuclear countdown. The hideous scene closes with Auden's words. He was so furious at this that he removed the poem from his canon. He was prone to excise things that had been exploited or distorted Tad Richards www.opus40.org http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry _____ _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From robin.hamilton2 at btinternet.com Mon Mar 5 16:42:33 2007 From: robin.hamilton2 at btinternet.com (Robin Hamilton) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:42:33 -0000 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid, and Y'all Can Go Screw References: <001c01c75f4c$05b8aa50$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Message-ID: <020801c75f6f$32164f80$4101a8c0@pc2b565f661721> As usual, _The English Auden_ is pretty much lacking in necessary textual details -- did Edward Mendelson deliberately go out of his way to ensure you have to consult every one of his books to get a full picture? That gives the full originally-published text, with the poem noted as written in September 1939 and first published in book form in _Another Time_ (1940). Even Mendelson's biography, _Early Auden_ (see pp. 334 to 330) isn't entirely clear as to which was the last edition that Auden kept the poem in. There, we're told that Auden included the poem, but with the entire stanza containing "We must love one another or die" omitted, in his _Collected Poetry_ (1945). But in 1955, it +was+ reprinted in _The New Pocket Anthology of American Verse_, which printed the line as revised to "and die" for the first time. Presumably this is the last time Auden allows the poem to be reprinted before it joins the metaphorical bonfire of some of his best pre-1940 work, along with "Spain" and the Kipling/Claudel stanzas in "In Memory of W.B.Yeats". The deleted poems and stanzas are included in Mendelson's _Selected Poetry_ but not in his edition of Auden's _Collected Poetry_. Writing in 1964, retrospectively, Auden says he first revised "We must love one another or die" -- 'That's a damn lie! We must die anyway' -- to "and die", then scrapped the whole poem on the grounds that it was, in his words, 'infected with an incurable dishonesty.' (Mendelson, _Early Auden_, p. 326.) So well before LBJ expropriates it. Where did LBJ's speechwriter pick up the line from anyway? A first edition of _Another Time_ or the 1955 anthology? Auden was less cutting, so to speak, with regard to his post-1940 poetry, though there is the case of the Amazing Vanishing Dildo in "In Praise of Limestone", and "A Platonic Blow" still isn't part of the formal Auden canon. Robin Hamilton ----- Original Message ----- From: Skip Fox To: 'NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &Views' Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: RE: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid,and Y'all Can Go Screw The notes in Ellmann's anthology _The Norton Anthology of Modern and Contemporary Poetry_ are wrong on occasion, but I _did_ read this elsewhere as well: "Auden later attempted to revise this line, which struck him as 'dishonest.' In one revision, the line reads 'We must love one another and die.' Another version of the poem leaves out the entire stanza." (ftnt. #4, p. 803 in vol. 1). I remember hearing he even dropped the entire poem in one version of his selected poetry, finding it unrevisable. From jforjames at aol.com Mon Mar 5 17:12:38 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:12:38 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] circumference In-Reply-To: <45EC6D3D.9000504@hfa.umass.edu> References: <45EC6D3D.9000504@hfa.umass.edu> Message-ID: <8C92D8A851FDC1B-111C-5A5@FWM-D25.sysops.aol.com> CIRCUMFERENCE is a biannual, multi-lingual journal that presents translations of new work being written around the globe, new visions of classical poems, and translations of foreign language poets of the past who have fallen under the radar of American readers. Issue 5 of CIRCUMFERENCE presents work translated from Ahtna, Albanian, Chinese, French, Norwegian, Spanish, and over a dozen other languages. To subscribe or read sample poems visit www.circumferencemag.com. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at louisiana.edu Mon Mar 5 17:28:28 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:28:28 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid, and Y'all Can Go Screw In-Reply-To: <020801c75f6f$32164f80$4101a8c0@pc2b565f661721> Message-ID: <001401c75f75$9f1b0930$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Great data, thanks. It confirmed what we had been thinking with great detail. -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Robin Hamilton Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:43 PM To: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &Views Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid,and Y'all Can Go Screw As usual, _The English Auden_ is pretty much lacking in necessary textual details -- did Edward Mendelson deliberately go out of his way to ensure you have to consult every one of his books to get a full picture? That gives the full originally-published text, with the poem noted as written in September 1939 and first published in book form in _Another Time_ (1940). Even Mendelson's biography, _Early Auden_ (see pp. 334 to 330) isn't entirely clear as to which was the last edition that Auden kept the poem in. There, we're told that Auden included the poem, but with the entire stanza containing "We must love one another or die" omitted, in his _Collected Poetry_ (1945). But in 1955, it +was+ reprinted in _The New Pocket Anthology of American Verse_, which printed the line as revised to "and die" for the first time. Presumably this is the last time Auden allows the poem to be reprinted before it joins the metaphorical bonfire of some of his best pre-1940 work, along with "Spain" and the Kipling/Claudel stanzas in "In Memory of W.B.Yeats". The deleted poems and stanzas are included in Mendelson's _Selected Poetry_ but not in his edition of Auden's _Collected Poetry_. Writing in 1964, retrospectively, Auden says he first revised "We must love one another or die" -- 'That's a damn lie! We must die anyway' -- to "and die", then scrapped the whole poem on the grounds that it was, in his words, 'infected with an incurable dishonesty.' (Mendelson, _Early Auden_, p. 326.) So well before LBJ expropriates it. Where did LBJ's speechwriter pick up the line from anyway? A first edition of _Another Time_ or the 1955 anthology? Auden was less cutting, so to speak, with regard to his post-1940 poetry, though there is the case of the Amazing Vanishing Dildo in "In Praise of Limestone", and "A Platonic Blow" still isn't part of the formal Auden canon. Robin Hamilton ----- Original Message ----- From: Skip Fox To: 'NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &Views' Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: RE: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid,and Y'all Can Go Screw The notes in Ellmann's anthology _The Norton Anthology of Modern and Contemporary Poetry_ are wrong on occasion, but I _did_ read this elsewhere as well: "Auden later attempted to revise this line, which struck him as 'dishonest.' In one revision, the line reads 'We must love one another and die.' Another version of the poem leaves out the entire stanza." (ftnt. #4, p. 803 in vol. 1). I remember hearing he even dropped the entire poem in one version of his selected poetry, finding it unrevisable. _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry From skip at louisiana.edu Mon Mar 5 17:48:49 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:48:49 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid . . . etc. In-Reply-To: <020801c75f6f$32164f80$4101a8c0@pc2b565f661721> Message-ID: <000001c75f78$7688a790$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Small addition: Humphrey Carpenter, in _W. H. Auden: A Biography_ writes that the editor of the 1955 edition "pleaded with Auden to let him include the entire text of the poem, [and that] Auden agreed, provided the reading 'We must love one another and die' was used." (ftnt 1, p. 331) Interestingly, Oscar Williams's _The Pocket Book of Modern Verse_ (1954) has the original stanza with "or," not "and." I wonder what happened there? (Maybe LBJ speechwriter had Williams' anthology at hand . . . it was quite popular after all.) Like Whitman, Auden is a textual editor's (and bibliographer's) nightmare. Again, Hamilton's was a fine post. It's always of value to cut through the misinformation no matter how good it sounds. -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Robin Hamilton Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:43 PM To: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &Views Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid,and Y'all Can Go Screw As usual, _The English Auden_ is pretty much lacking in necessary textual details -- did Edward Mendelson deliberately go out of his way to ensure you have to consult every one of his books to get a full picture? That gives the full originally-published text, with the poem noted as written in September 1939 and first published in book form in _Another Time_ (1940). Even Mendelson's biography, _Early Auden_ (see pp. 334 to 330) isn't entirely clear as to which was the last edition that Auden kept the poem in. There, we're told that Auden included the poem, but with the entire stanza containing "We must love one another or die" omitted, in his _Collected Poetry_ (1945). But in 1955, it +was+ reprinted in _The New Pocket Anthology of American Verse_, which printed the line as revised to "and die" for the first time. Presumably this is the last time Auden allows the poem to be reprinted before it joins the metaphorical bonfire of some of his best pre-1940 work, along with "Spain" and the Kipling/Claudel stanzas in "In Memory of W.B.Yeats". The deleted poems and stanzas are included in Mendelson's _Selected Poetry_ but not in his edition of Auden's _Collected Poetry_. Writing in 1964, retrospectively, Auden says he first revised "We must love one another or die" -- 'That's a damn lie! We must die anyway' -- to "and die", then scrapped the whole poem on the grounds that it was, in his words, 'infected with an incurable dishonesty.' (Mendelson, _Early Auden_, p. 326.) So well before LBJ expropriates it. Where did LBJ's speechwriter pick up the line from anyway? A first edition of _Another Time_ or the 1955 anthology? Auden was less cutting, so to speak, with regard to his post-1940 poetry, though there is the case of the Amazing Vanishing Dildo in "In Praise of Limestone", and "A Platonic Blow" still isn't part of the formal Auden canon. Robin Hamilton ----- Original Message ----- From: Skip Fox To: 'NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &Views' Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: RE: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid,and Y'all Can Go Screw The notes in Ellmann's anthology _The Norton Anthology of Modern and Contemporary Poetry_ are wrong on occasion, but I _did_ read this elsewhere as well: "Auden later attempted to revise this line, which struck him as 'dishonest.' In one revision, the line reads 'We must love one another and die.' Another version of the poem leaves out the entire stanza." (ftnt. #4, p. 803 in vol. 1). I remember hearing he even dropped the entire poem in one version of his selected poetry, finding it unrevisable. _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry From robin.hamilton2 at btinternet.com Mon Mar 5 18:11:11 2007 From: robin.hamilton2 at btinternet.com (Robin Hamilton) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:11:11 -0000 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid, and Y'all Can Go Screw References: <001401c75f75$9f1b0930$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Message-ID: <023a01c75f7b$9373e290$4101a8c0@pc2b565f661721> > Great data, thanks. It confirmed what we had been thinking with great > detail. Thanks, Skip. I suppose I should stick it into Wikipedia, save me repeating myself . I'm not an Auden specialist, but I do have most of the books on my shelves. An expensive hobby if you're textual obsessive like me. Anyone wants only one (cheap) text, the paperback _Selected Auden_ edited by Mendelson is the one to go for. Has exactly 100 poems, about 50/50 pre- and post-1940, giving the original printed versions. Thus the dildo returns to "In Praise of Limestone". Doesn't have "A Platonic Blow", but that's here and there on the web. And a pretty dreadful poem anyway. Back to trying to work out what the hell is happening in the new translation of (the collected) Zbigniew Herbert. As far as I can make out, roughly half of the first 150 poems (pre-1969) are simply the Milosz/Dale Scott 1968 Penguin translations integrated into the new text. The information is there, but it take some digging to get to it. Irritates the hell out of me. Anyone who's that interested, I've done a spreadsheet correlating the page numbers of the Penguin and Ecco texts that I could send backchannel. Still haven't got round to actually *looking at the new translations by Valles. :-( Robin From jforjames at aol.com Mon Mar 5 18:26:24 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:26:24 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] bad blurbs by others: Dorothy Parker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C92D94D382DEF3-CC4-52A@webmail-mf16.sysops.aol.com> This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force. This book of essays ... has all the depth and glitter of a worn dime. This must be a gift book. That is to say a book, which you wouldn't take on any other terms. --Dorothy Parker ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin.hamilton2 at btinternet.com Mon Mar 5 18:51:46 2007 From: robin.hamilton2 at btinternet.com (Robin Hamilton) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:51:46 -0000 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid . . . etc. References: <000001c75f78$7688a790$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Message-ID: <024f01c75f81$3ed82100$4101a8c0@pc2b565f661721> Skip, This doesn't quite correspond with what Mendelson says (p. 326) -- if I'm following it correctly, Williams and the editor of the 1955 text would seem to be the same, and the change *was made there. (The 1955 date I gave in my earlier post was a guess at Mendelson's "ten years", so maybe 1954. Or was the Williams anthology printed a year later in the UK?) I'll paste in the appropriate bits from Mendelson. Incidentally: > Interestingly, Oscar Williams's _The Pocket Book of Modern Verse_ (1954) > has > the original stanza with "or," not "and." I wonder what happened there? Do you have a copy of the above to hand? I'm simply repeating Mendelson, who may have got the change wrong. Or was the Williams text changed [back] to "or die" in a reprint after the first edition of the anthology? Yeah, talk about a bibliographer's nightmare! (Or goldmine, given the mileage Mendelson gets out of it.) Robin *********************************** " ... the stanza ends with a resonant affirmation: "We must love one another or die." But a few years later Auden decided this too was a lie. He recalled in 1964 that when he reread the poem after it was published, he came to this line < [Auden] said to myself: "That's a damned lie! We must die anyway." So, in the next edition, I altered it to We must love one another and die. This didn't seem to do either; so I cut the stanza. Still no good. The whole poem, I realised, was infected with an incurable dishonesty and must be scrapped.* > * For the record, the textual history was in fact more complicated than this. Auden may have intended to use "and die" in a new edition, but by the time he had an op?portunity to revise the text, for the 1945 Collected Poetry, he dropped the whole stanza. The reading "and die" appeared ten years later, in _The New Pocket Anthol?ogy of American Verse_, edited by Oscar Williams; Williams asked to restore the omitted stanza, and Auden agreed on condition that he make this change." *************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Fox" To: "'NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &Views'" Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:48 PM Subject: RE: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue,Auden is Acid . . . etc. > Small addition: Humphrey Carpenter, in _W. H. Auden: A Biography_ writes > that the editor of the 1955 edition "pleaded with Auden to let him include > the entire text of the poem, [and that] Auden agreed, provided the reading > 'We must love one another and die' was used." (ftnt 1, p. 331) > > Interestingly, Oscar Williams's _The Pocket Book of Modern Verse_ (1954) > has > the original stanza with "or," not "and." I wonder what happened there? > (Maybe LBJ speechwriter had Williams' anthology at hand . . . it was quite > popular after all.) > > Like Whitman, Auden is a textual editor's (and bibliographer's) nightmare. > > Again, Hamilton's was a fine post. It's always of value to cut through the > misinformation no matter how good it sounds. From tad at opus40.org Mon Mar 5 20:26:17 2007 From: tad at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 20:26:17 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] bad blurbs by others: Dorothy Parker References: <8C92D94D382DEF3-CC4-52A@webmail-mf16.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <003e01c75f8e$70aae070$6401a8c0@OldMoleExpress> Katharine Cornell ran the gamut of emotions from A to B. Maurice Evans played the king as though he was afraid someone would play the ace. and, of Winnie the Pooh: Tonstant Weader fwowed up. ----- Original Message ----- From: jforjames at aol.com To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: [New-Poetry] bad blurbs by others: Dorothy Parker This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force. This book of essays ... has all the depth and glitter of a worn dime. This must be a gift book. That is to say a book, which you wouldn't take on any other terms. --Dorothy Parker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JforJames at aol.com Mon Mar 5 20:31:35 2007 From: JforJames at aol.com (JforJames at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 20:31:35 EST Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid . . . etc. Message-ID: In a message dated 3/5/2007 5:49:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, skip at louisiana.edu writes: Small addition: Humphrey Carpenter, in _W. H. Auden: A Biography_ writes that the editor of the 1955 edition "pleaded with Auden to let him include the entire text of the poem, [and that] Auden agreed, provided the reading 'We must love one another and die' was used." (ftnt 1, p. 331) Interestingly, Oscar Williams's _The Pocket Book of Modern Verse_ (1954) has the original stanza with "or," not "and." I wonder what happened there? (Maybe LBJ speechwriter had Williams' anthology at hand . . . it was quite popular after all.) I have to agree with the speechwriter choice and Bob G who suggested that 'and' makes the phrase trivial. Only with the 'or' could be have any polemical/politic/poetic sense. It's suprising that Auden rejected it for failing on a basis of a logical truth. Plato would have been proud of him. I half-remember a Pinsky quote from a early book, Explanation of America, something like, 'we're all dying, but the pace of it matters.' Finnegan


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Auden: A Biography_ writes that the editor of the 1955 edition "pleaded with Auden to let him include the entire text of the poem, [and that] Auden agreed, provided the reading 'We must love one another and die' was used." (ftnt 1, p. 331) Interestingly, Oscar Williams's _The Pocket Book of Modern Verse_ (1954) has the original stanza with "or," not "and." I wonder what happened there? (Maybe LBJ speechwriter had Williams' anthology at hand . . . it was quite popular after all.) I have to agree with the speechwriter choice and Bob G who suggested that 'and' makes the phrase trivial. Only with the 'or' could be have any polemical/politic/poetic sense. It's suprising that Auden rejected it for failing on a basis of a logical truth. Plato would have been proud of him. I half-remember a Pinsky quote from a early book, Explanation of America, something like, 'we're all dying, but the pace of it matters.' Finnegan AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Tue Mar 6 06:47:22 2007 From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net (Bob Grumman) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 06:47:22 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid . . . etc. References: c17.12c7d972.331e1e77@aol.com Message-ID: <002501c75fe5$3686ec70$53fad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> In a message dated 3/5/2007 5:49:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, skip at louisiana.edu writes: Small addition: Humphrey Carpenter, in _W. H. Auden: A Biography_ writes that the editor of the 1955 edition "pleaded with Auden to let him include the entire text of the poem, [and that] Auden agreed, provided the reading 'We must love one another and die' was used." (ftnt 1, p. 331) Interestingly, Oscar Williams's _The Pocket Book of Modern Verse_ (1954) has the original stanza with "or," not "and." I wonder what happened there? (Maybe LBJ speechwriter had Williams' anthology at hand . . . it was quite popular after all.) I have to agree with the speechwriter choice and Bob G who suggested that 'and' makes the phrase trivial. Only with the 'or' could be have any polemical/politic/poetic sense. It's suprising that Auden rejected it for failing on a basis of a logical truth. Plato would have been proud of him. I half-remember a Pinsky quote from a early book, Explanation of America, something like, 'we're all dying, but the pace of it matters.' Finnegan I have Auden's problem with the orginal version but agree he it is much better than the revision, and close enough to logic for poetry--since it implies not that we will die but that we will die shortly, do to not loving one another. But . . . how about, "we must love one another or soon die?" Trouble with that is that it's not as sharp as the simple "or die." Anyway, I very much empathize with Auden on this. --Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rog3r.day at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 09:05:39 2007 From: rog3r.day at gmail.com (Roger Day) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 14:05:39 +0000 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid, and Y'all Can Go Screw In-Reply-To: <023a01c75f7b$9373e290$4101a8c0@pc2b565f661721> References: <001401c75f75$9f1b0930$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> <023a01c75f7b$9373e290$4101a8c0@pc2b565f661721> Message-ID: "The Dildo Returns" should be the title of something, or maybe your motto(^_^)? I've ploughed through Mendelson's Auden(s) and I think you're right: he deliberately structures the books so you're corralled into buying all of them, which I had at one point. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Mendelson's leeching career still on-going? Aren't there more books coming out? Roger On 3/5/07, Robin Hamilton wrote: > > Great data, thanks. It confirmed what we had been thinking with great > > detail. > > Thanks, Skip. I suppose I should stick it into Wikipedia, save me repeating > myself . > > I'm not an Auden specialist, but I do have most of the books on my shelves. > An expensive hobby if you're textual obsessive like me. Anyone wants only > one (cheap) text, the paperback _Selected Auden_ edited by Mendelson is the > one to go for. Has exactly 100 poems, about 50/50 pre- and post-1940, > giving the original printed versions. Thus the dildo returns to "In Praise > of Limestone". Doesn't have "A Platonic Blow", but that's here and there on > the web. And a pretty dreadful poem anyway. > > Back to trying to work out what the hell is happening in the new translation > of (the collected) Zbigniew Herbert. As far as I can make out, roughly half > of the first 150 poems (pre-1969) are simply the Milosz/Dale Scott 1968 > Penguin translations integrated into the new text. The information is > there, but it take some digging to get to it. Irritates the hell out of me. > > Anyone who's that interested, I've done a spreadsheet correlating the page > numbers of the Penguin and Ecco texts that I could send backchannel. Still > haven't got round to actually *looking at the new translations by Valles. > > :-( > > Robin > > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/ "Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious." Oscar Wilde From skip at louisiana.edu Tue Mar 6 09:59:53 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 08:59:53 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid, and Y'all Can Go Screw In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003701c76000$1eaab940$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> I was thinking about "We must love one another and die" this a.m. and see the problem from a slightly different angle. This is an imprecise poem. It's meant to be relaxed in diction, but firmly aware of its relevations/recognitions. The poet in full touch with himself in a monologue at night, say. Even the line reflects that relaxation and understated surety. In this type of poem, with this kind of honesty, Auden was distressed with a breech of the literal, which would seem dishonest. (We must be honest with ourselves, in a quiet but certain way, and the use of the metaphorical in that line would rupture that sense of honesty.) Dickinson is more precise than this poem and uses "die" metaphorically all the time. ("I felt a funeral in my brain" etc.) As Dorn wrote, there are deaths at twenty and burials at eighty. Dorn was also being precise. Auden's poem of imprecise honesty cannot allow for the metaphorical use, whereas Dickinson's poetry of precisions can. I, too, see Auden's quandary. And I wonder if he felt a pang when he originally wrote the line. From skip at louisiana.edu Tue Mar 6 10:11:02 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:11:02 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid . . . etc. In-Reply-To: <024f01c75f81$3ed82100$4101a8c0@pc2b565f661721> Message-ID: <003801c76001$ad7c5970$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Robin, Yes. I quoted directly from the book. The Cardinal Giant edition published 1954, 4th printing (1957). So the issuance is 1954 or 1955. (A book can be copyrighted in one year and published the next.) Williams' book is an old anthology I just happen to have around. It went through many issues and editions. I also have the newly revised third edition (after 23 printings of the first) which contains the same line: "or die." -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Robin Hamilton Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:52 PM To: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &Views Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue,Auden is Acid . . . etc. Skip, This doesn't quite correspond with what Mendelson says (p. 326) -- if I'm following it correctly, Williams and the editor of the 1955 text would seem to be the same, and the change *was made there. (The 1955 date I gave in my earlier post was a guess at Mendelson's "ten years", so maybe 1954. Or was the Williams anthology printed a year later in the UK?) I'll paste in the appropriate bits from Mendelson. Incidentally: > Interestingly, Oscar Williams's _The Pocket Book of Modern Verse_ (1954) > has > the original stanza with "or," not "and." I wonder what happened there? Do you have a copy of the above to hand? I'm simply repeating Mendelson, who may have got the change wrong. Or was the Williams text changed [back] to "or die" in a reprint after the first edition of the anthology? Yeah, talk about a bibliographer's nightmare! (Or goldmine, given the mileage Mendelson gets out of it.) Robin *********************************** " ... the stanza ends with a resonant affirmation: "We must love one another or die." But a few years later Auden decided this too was a lie. He recalled in 1964 that when he reread the poem after it was published, he came to this line < [Auden] said to myself: "That's a damned lie! We must die anyway." So, in the next edition, I altered it to We must love one another and die. This didn't seem to do either; so I cut the stanza. Still no good. The whole poem, I realised, was infected with an incurable dishonesty and must be scrapped.* > * For the record, the textual history was in fact more complicated than this. Auden may have intended to use "and die" in a new edition, but by the time he had an op-portunity to revise the text, for the 1945 Collected Poetry, he dropped the whole stanza. The reading "and die" appeared ten years later, in _The New Pocket Anthol-ogy of American Verse_, edited by Oscar Williams; Williams asked to restore the omitted stanza, and Auden agreed on condition that he make this change." *************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Fox" To: "'NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &Views'" Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:48 PM Subject: RE: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue,Auden is Acid . . . etc. > Small addition: Humphrey Carpenter, in _W. H. Auden: A Biography_ writes > that the editor of the 1955 edition "pleaded with Auden to let him include > the entire text of the poem, [and that] Auden agreed, provided the reading > 'We must love one another and die' was used." (ftnt 1, p. 331) > > Interestingly, Oscar Williams's _The Pocket Book of Modern Verse_ (1954) > has > the original stanza with "or," not "and." I wonder what happened there? > (Maybe LBJ speechwriter had Williams' anthology at hand . . . it was quite > popular after all.) > > Like Whitman, Auden is a textual editor's (and bibliographer's) nightmare. > > Again, Hamilton's was a fine post. It's always of value to cut through the > misinformation no matter how good it sounds. _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry From hawkbrwn at msn.com Tue Mar 6 14:32:31 2007 From: hawkbrwn at msn.com (Elaine Brown) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:32:31 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Auden is Acid, and Y'all Can Go Screw In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes. From what I've seen there are still books coming out. On 3/6/07 9:05 AM, "Roger Day" wrote: > "The Dildo Returns" should be the title of something, or maybe your > motto(^_^)? > > I've ploughed through Mendelson's Auden(s) and I think you're right: > he deliberately structures the books so you're corralled into buying > all of them, which I had at one point. Correct me if I'm wrong but > isn't Mendelson's leeching career still on-going? Aren't there more > books coming out? > > Roger > > On 3/5/07, Robin Hamilton wrote: >>> Great data, thanks. It confirmed what we had been thinking with great >>> detail. >> >> Thanks, Skip. I suppose I should stick it into Wikipedia, save me repeating >> myself . >> >> I'm not an Auden specialist, but I do have most of the books on my shelves. >> An expensive hobby if you're textual obsessive like me. Anyone wants only >> one (cheap) text, the paperback _Selected Auden_ edited by Mendelson is the >> one to go for. Has exactly 100 poems, about 50/50 pre- and post-1940, >> giving the original printed versions. Thus the dildo returns to "In Praise >> of Limestone". Doesn't have "A Platonic Blow", but that's here and there on >> the web. And a pretty dreadful poem anyway. >> >> Back to trying to work out what the hell is happening in the new translation >> of (the collected) Zbigniew Herbert. As far as I can make out, roughly half >> of the first 150 poems (pre-1969) are simply the Milosz/Dale Scott 1968 >> Penguin translations integrated into the new text. The information is >> there, but it take some digging to get to it. Irritates the hell out of me. >> >> Anyone who's that interested, I've done a spreadsheet correlating the page >> numbers of the Penguin and Ecco texts that I could send backchannel. Still >> haven't got round to actually *looking at the new translations by Valles. >> >> :-( >> >> Robin >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New-Poetry mailing list >> New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry >> > From Rsgwynn1 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 03:01:27 2007 From: Rsgwynn1 at cs.com (Rsgwynn1 at cs.com) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 03:01:27 EST Subject: [New-Poetry] B. H. 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Somber, secretive and seemingly humorless, with little more than a high school education, Mr. Gallo ? working closely with his brother, Julio ? created a wine empire that became one of the world?s largest. While Julio, who died in an auto accident in 1993, preferred the winemaking, Ernest had a head for business. His entrepreneurial skills, instinctive command of marketing and distribution, and his compulsive need to be the best at what he did, created the large company that he controlled at the time of his death. And the company, entirely family controlled, was indeed large. Industry analysts estimate that Gallo produces some 80 million cases of wine a year, which is about 220,000 cases or 2.64 million bottles every day. The company reportedly owns 10,000 acres of vineyards in California and buys grapes from hundreds of independent growers. According to Forbes magazine, Gallo had sales of about $980 million in 2005 with a net profit of $44 million. In 2006, according to Forbes, Ernest Gallo was No. 283 on its list of the 400 richest Americans, with an estimated net worth of $1.2 billion. The company also imported wine from France, Italy and New Zealand and, last year, according to one estimate, exported some seven million cases of wine to some 85 countries. Survivors include Mr. Gallo?s son, Joseph; five grandchildren; and three great-grandchildren. Mr. Gallo?s wife, Amelia, died in 1993. A son, David, died in 1997. According to the legend, the two brothers, virtually penniless farm boys from the Central Valley of California, scraped together $5,900 and started their winery in a rented shed in Modesto. It was 1933 and repeal of Prohibition was weeks away. Ernest was 24, Julio 23; the two knew nothing about winemaking, according to the story, and relied on a pamphlet from the Modesto Public Library to explain their trade. But in fact, they were from the second generation of an Italian immigrant family long immersed in the wine business. Ernest Gallo was born on March 18, 1909, to Giuseppe Gallo, known as Joseph, and Assunta Bianco Gallo, who was called Susie, in Jackson, Calif. The father, and his younger brother, Michael, had a business buying wine from small wineries and selling it in bars in Oakland and San Francisco. As early as 1906, they operated as the Gallo Wine Company. Their mother?s family, the Biancos, were successful winemakers, and when their maternal grandfather died in 1916, he left 9,000 gallons of red wine ready to be sold. In the 1920s, Ernest?s parents bought a farm near Modesto and like their neighbors, began to grow grapes. Their fruit was loaded on railcars and shipped east (private winemaking was still allowed during Prohibition). The railheads in Eastern cities, from Boston to the Carolinas, from Pittsburgh to Cleveland and Buffalo, were dominated by thugs who took a cut of whatever was sold. By the time he was 17, Ernest was traveling with the grapes to ensure the family received top dollar. At first, Prohibition meant prosperity for the growers, but the Depression ended that. Ernest?s parents were saddled with a nonproductive farm and apparently heavily in debt. On the morning of June 21, 1933, in the kitchen of the farmhouse, Joseph Gallo shot and killed his wife and then himself, leaving three sons, Ernest, Julio, and their younger brother, Joseph, then 12. That was also the year that Prohibition was repealed and the two older brothers, with $5,900, most of it borrowed from Ernest?s mother- in-law, opened a winery. Hundreds of wineries were starting, but as Ernest said years later: ?We could do anything anyone else could do, not because I was brilliant or well-educated, but because I was willing to devote as much time and energy as was necessary, regardless of the sacrifice.? ?We could afford one tractor,? he said, ?and there were times when I drove it for 12 hours, then turned it over to Julio who drove it for another 12 hours.? The brothers were successful from the start, but in those days were no match for industry giants like Petri, Cribari and Italian Swiss Colony. But the company?s introduction of Thunderbird wine would change that. In 1957, the Gallos developed the brand, a concoction of inexpensive fortified white wine with added citrus flavors. It was named after the Ford sports car and was aimed directly at ?the misery market,? according to ?Blood and Wine,? Ellen Hawkes?s unauthorized biography of the family. By the end of 1957, Ms. Hawkes reported, Gallo was making 32 million gallons of Thunderbird. By the mid-1970s, the Gallos realized that the market for cheap table wines and the sweet fortified wine market would not sustain the company. America was moving upscale in its wines and Ernest insisted Gallo go along. Over the next 20 years. Gallo moved into the fine wine market. Ernest himself, aside from his service on the Wine Institute, the industry?s promotional arm, usually kept apart from the rest of the wine business. Only in his last years did he begin to appear at wine events, often in the company of Robert Mondavi, another winemaker, who had long urged him to become more open to the trade and to his customers. ----- "I hate flowers. 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PRIAL Ernest Gallo, who with his brother Julio started a winery seven decades ago that now sells one of every four bottles of wine that Americans drink, died yesterday at his home on Modesto, Calif. He was 97. ?He passed away peacefully this afternoon surrounded by his family,? said Susan Hensley, vice president of public relations for E.& J. Gallo Winery. Somber, secretive and seemingly humorless, with little more than a high school education, Mr. Gallo ? working closely with his brother, Julio ? created a wine empire that became one of the world?s largest. While Julio, who died in an auto accident in 1993, preferred the winemaking, Ernest had a head for business. His entrepreneurial skills, instinctive command of marketing and distribution, and his compulsive need to be the best at what he did, created the large company that he controlled at the time of his death. And the company, entirely family controlled, was indeed large. Industry analysts estimate that Gallo produces some 80 million cases of wine a year, which is about 220,000 cases or 2.64 million bottles every day. The company reportedly owns 10,000 acres of vineyards in California and buys grapes from hundreds of independent growers. According to Forbes magazine, Gallo had sales of about $980 million in 2005 with a net profit of $44 million. In 2006, according to Forbes, Ernest Gallo was No. 283 on its list of the 400 richest Americans, with an estimated net worth of $1.2 billion. The company also imported wine from France, Italy and New Zealand and, last year, according to one estimate, exported some seven million cases of wine to some 85 countries. Survivors include Mr. Gallo?s son, Joseph; five grandchildren; and three great-grandchildren. Mr. Gallo?s wife, Amelia, died in 1993. A son, David, died in 1997. According to the legend, the two brothers, virtually penniless farm boys from the Central Valley of California, scraped together $5,900 and started their winery in a rented shed in Modesto. It was 1933 and repeal of Prohibition was weeks away. Ernest was 24, Julio 23; the two knew nothing about winemaking, according to the story, and relied on a pamphlet from the Modesto Public Library to explain their trade. But in fact, they were from the second generation of an Italian immigrant family long immersed in the wine business. Ernest Gallo was born on March 18, 1909, to Giuseppe Gallo, known as Joseph, and Assunta Bianco Gallo, who was called Susie, in Jackson, Calif. The father, and his younger brother, Michael, had a business buying wine from small wineries and selling it in bars in Oakland and San Francisco. As early as 1906, they operated as the Gallo Wine Company. Their mother?s family, the Biancos, were successful winemakers, and when their maternal grandfather died in 1916, he left 9,000 gallons of red wine ready to be sold. In the 1920s, Ernest?s parents bought a farm near Modesto and like their neighbors, began to grow grapes. Their fruit was loaded on railcars and shipped east (private winemaking was still allowed during Prohibition). The railheads in Eastern cities, from Boston to the Carolinas, from Pittsburgh to Cleveland and Buffalo, were dominated by thugs who took a cut of whatever was sold. By the time he was 17, Ernest was traveling with the grapes to ensure the family received top dollar. At first, Prohibition meant prosperity for the growers, but the Depression ended that. Ernest?s parents were saddled with a nonproductive farm and apparently heavily in debt. On the morning of June 21, 1933, in the kitchen of the farmhouse, Joseph Gallo shot and killed his wife and then himself, leaving three sons, Ernest, Julio, and their younger brother, Joseph, then 12. That was also the year that Prohibition was repealed and the two older brothers, with $5,900, most of it borrowed from Ernest?s mother-in-law, opened a winery. Hundreds of wineries were starting, but as Ernest said years later: ?We could do anything anyone else could do, not because I was brilliant or well-educated, but because I was willing to devote as much time and energy as was necessary, regardless of the sacrifice.? ?We could afford one tractor,? he said, ?and there were times when I drove it for 12 hours, then turned it over to Julio who drove it for another 12 hours.? The brothers were successful from the start, but in those days were no match for industry giants like Petri, Cribari and Italian Swiss Colony. But the company?s introduction of Thunderbird wine would change that. In 1957, the Gallos developed the brand, a concoction of inexpensive fortified white wine with added citrus flavors. It was named after the Ford sports car and was aimed directly at ?the misery market,? according to ?Blood and Wine,? Ellen Hawkes?s unauthorized biography of the family. By the end of 1957, Ms. Hawkes reported, Gallo was making 32 million gallons of Thunderbird. By the mid-1970s, the Gallos realized that the market for cheap table wines and the sweet fortified wine market would not sustain the company. America was moving upscale in its wines and Ernest insisted Gallo go along. Over the next 20 years. Gallo moved into the fine wine market. Ernest himself, aside from his service on the Wine Institute, the industry?s promotional arm, usually kept apart from the rest of the wine business. Only in his last years did he begin to appear at wine events, often in the company of Robert Mondavi, another winemaker, who had long urged him to become more open to the trade and to his customers. ----- "I hate flowers. I only paint them because they're cheaper than models and they don't move." --Georgia O'Keefe Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org = _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From hawkbrwn at msn.com Wed Mar 7 18:28:33 2007 From: hawkbrwn at msn.com (Elaine Brown) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:28:33 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] kindly thought about bad books In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Don?t get me wrong with this question. I?m a total bookophile. But why should we regard books as sacred? I mean, a thing just *being* a book is enough to mean the thing is sacred? This seems not obviously right to me (which does not mean it is wrong). Anyone have a well-argued reason? On 3/7/07 9:06 AM, "JforJames at aol.com" wrote: > As bab blurbs have ebbed away, here's a thought to end that thread... > > Even bad books are books and therefore sacred. > --(narrator Oskar Matzerath) G?nther Grass. 1959. ?Rasputin and the Alphabet.? > The Tin Drum, bk. 1. tr. R. Manheim. 1961. > > > > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from > AOL at AOL.com > %3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom> . > > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Rsgwynn1 at cs.com Wed Mar 7 18:44:47 2007 From: Rsgwynn1 at cs.com (Rsgwynn1 at cs.com) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:44:47 EST Subject: [New-Poetry] kindly thought about bad books Message-ID: In a message dated 3/7/2007 5:29:15 PM Central Standard Time, hawkbrwn at msn.com writes: > > Don?t get me wrong with this question. I?m a total bookophile. > > But why should we regard books as sacred? I mean, a thing just *being* a > book is enough to mean the thing is sacred? This seems not obviously right to > me (which does not mean it is wrong). Anyone have a well-argued reason? I regard my annotated (usually in red or pink or blue ink) books as more than sacred. I have no problem with "defiling" a teaching copy of a book and trust the authors would have no problem either. What do you suppose Nabokov's edition of Kafka's stories looked like?! I love my children too, but would not have had them persist and mature in the natural, Rousseauian state! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halvard at earthlink.net Wed Mar 7 18:47:44 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:47:44 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] kindly thought about bad books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6BBD95B4-9156-498F-BE89-8D8B8041F2E3@earthlink.net> It's much to be preferred that people believe ALL books all sacred than to believe ONE book is sacred. Hal, the unreasoning "If there is anyone here I have not offended, I apologize." --Johannes Brahms Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 7, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Elaine Brown wrote: > Don?t get me wrong with this question. I?m a total bookophile. > > But why should we regard books as sacred? I mean, a thing just > *being* a book is enough to mean the thing is sacred? This seems > not obviously right to me (which does not mean it is wrong). > Anyone have a well-argued reason? > > > On 3/7/07 9:06 AM, "JforJames at aol.com" wrote: > >> As bab blurbs have ebbed away, here's a thought to end that thread... >> >> Even bad books are books and therefore sacred. >> --(narrator Oskar Matzerath) G?nther Grass. 1959. ?Rasputin and >> the Alphabet.? The Tin Drum, bk. 1. tr. R. Manheim. 1961. >> >> >> >> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's >> free from AOL at AOL.com > 1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol% >> 2Ecom> . >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New-Poetry mailing list >> New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halvard at earthlink.net Wed Mar 7 18:57:06 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:57:06 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] kindly thought about bad books In-Reply-To: <6BBD95B4-9156-498F-BE89-8D8B8041F2E3@earthlink.net> References: <6BBD95B4-9156-498F-BE89-8D8B8041F2E3@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <9FB381A8-6248-4A72-8C32-B9729F86614C@earthlink.net> Meant to say "It's much to be preferred that people believe ALL books are sacred than to believe ONE book is sacred," but then you knew that, didn't you? Hal Not responsible for typographical terrors. Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 7, 2007, at 5:47 PM, Halvard Johnson wrote: > It's much to be preferred that people believe ALL books > all sacred than to believe ONE book is sacred. > > Hal, the unreasoning > > "If there is anyone here I have not > offended, I apologize." > --Johannes Brahms > > Halvard Johnson > ================ > halvard at gmail.com > halvard at earthlink.net > http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard > http://entropyandme.blogspot.com > http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com > http://www.hamiltonstone.org > > On Mar 7, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Elaine Brown wrote: > >> Don?t get me wrong with this question. I?m a total bookophile. >> >> But why should we regard books as sacred? I mean, a thing just >> *being* a book is enough to mean the thing is sacred? This seems >> not obviously right to me (which does not mean it is wrong). >> Anyone have a well-argued reason? >> >> >> On 3/7/07 9:06 AM, "JforJames at aol.com" wrote: >> >>> As bab blurbs have ebbed away, here's a thought to end that >>> thread... >>> >>> Even bad books are books and therefore sacred. >>> --(narrator Oskar Matzerath) G?nther Grass. 1959. ?Rasputin and >>> the Alphabet.? The Tin Drum, bk. 1. tr. R. Manheim. 1961. >>> >>> >>> >>> AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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You can separate the good from the bad based on taste, always subjective & fraught with bias, but you can never have an existence, a real world, with only good books. And probably he's talkiing not about books but people. Finnegan


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Gerald, ever spasticus > Well, it's not American / Canadian, but: > > "Should I mourn your decline with some Thunderbird wine and a black > handkerchief?" Ian Dury and the Blockheads, "Sweet Gene Vincent." > > Alan, ever tasteful > > > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry From anny.ballardini at tin.it Thu Mar 8 06:39:09 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:39:09 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Todd Davis from the Writer's Almanac Message-ID: <00a501c76176$63577660$f4af3852@ANNY> Poem: "Prayer Requests at a Mennonite Church" by Todd Davis from Some Heaven. ? Michigan State University Press. Reprinted with permission. (buy now) Prayer Requests at a Mennonite Church Pray for the Smucker family. Their son Nathaniel's coat and shirt were caught in the gears while grinding grain. Nothing would give, so now he is gone. We made his clothes too well. Perhaps this is our sin. Pray for the Birky family. Their son Jacob fell to his death in the granary. He was covered in corn before they could stop the pouring- chest crushed by the weight, seed spilling from his mouth. We hope something will grow from this, besides our grief. Pray for the Hartzler family. Their youngest has left the church and no longer believes that Christ died for her sins. She buys clothes at the mall. Tongue pierced, nose as well. Her shirt shows her belly where a ring of gold sprouts. We pray she will remember that her Lord's side was pierced, that His crown held no gold, only the dried blood of His brow. Pray for the Miller family. Last week their daughter, who lives in Kalona, lost her baby at birth. Child only half-formed: head turned the wrong way; heart laid on the outside of her chest; one leg little more than an afterthought. Lord, help them know that life may come again, that we are all made whole in heaven. Pray for the Stutzman family. Their son fights in the war. We call him back to the Prince of Peace, to our Savior who knelt to gather the slave's ear, brushed the dirt away, lifted it to the side of his flushed face. May we leave no scars. May we ask no blessing for the killing done in His name. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hawkbrwn at msn.com Thu Mar 8 08:21:53 2007 From: hawkbrwn at msn.com (Elaine Brown) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 08:21:53 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Todd Davis from the Writer's Almanac In-Reply-To: <00a501c76176$63577660$f4af3852@ANNY> Message-ID: Thank you for posting that, Anny! On 3/8/07 6:39 AM, "Anny Ballardini" wrote: > Poem: "Prayer Requests at a Mennonite Church" by Todd Davis from Some Heaven. > ? Michigan State University Press. Reprinted with permission. (buy now > ) > > Prayer Requests at a Mennonite Church > > Pray for the Smucker family. Their son Nathaniel's coat and shirt were > caught in the gears while grinding grain. Nothing would give, so now > he is gone. We made his clothes too well. Perhaps this is our sin. > > Pray for the Birky family. Their son Jacob fell to his death in the > granary. He was covered in corn before they could stop the pouring? > chest crushed by the weight, seed spilling from his mouth. We hope > something will grow from this, besides our grief. > > Pray for the Hartzler family. Their youngest has left the church and no > longer believes that Christ died for her sins. She buys clothes at the > mall. Tongue pierced, nose as well. Her shirt shows her belly where a > ring of gold sprouts. We pray she will remember that her Lord's side > was pierced, that His crown held no gold, only the dried blood of His > brow. > > Pray for the Miller family. Last week their daughter, who lives in > Kalona, lost her baby at birth. Child only half-formed: head turned the > wrong way; heart laid on the outside of her chest; one leg little more > than an afterthought. Lord, help them know that life may come again, > that we are all made whole in heaven. > > Pray for the Stutzman family. Their son fights in the war. We call him > back to the Prince of Peace, to our Savior who knelt to gather the > slave's ear, brushed the dirt away, lifted it to the side of his flushed face. > May we leave no scars. May we ask no blessing for the killing done in > His name. > > > Anny Ballardini > http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ > http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome > http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html > I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! > Friedrich Nietzsche > > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halvard at earthlink.net Thu Mar 8 10:49:06 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:49:06 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] "Sonnet Industry Shorts" Message-ID: <7ABE0867-DCD3-4D14-B7EA-1743CB7078B0@earthlink.net> Sonnet Industry Shorts I have a feeling I'm not the only one, but my headshots have never been up to industry standards. Using those of others, however, raises ethical questions I?m not yet prepared to answer. My crown of sonnets entitled ?How I Learned to Salivate? garnered prizes galore but failed to find quick publication. And my Harvard degree didn?t help, though I was slathered with advice by seasoned adults, well-meaning though they were. I know, let me tell you, the dangers of getting stuck on selling an image both youthful and exotic. The work, after all, is the thing (as I?m incessantly told). Yet, if a sonnet tree falls in an empty forest, does it even make so much as a ripple on the cowpond of my asp- irations? Whatcha think? I really wanna know. (:D) Hal "I hate flowers. I only paint them because they're cheaper than models and they don't move." --Georgia O'Keefe Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at louisiana.edu Thu Mar 8 12:18:26 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:18:26 -0600 Subject: [BULK] Re: [New-Poetry] kindly thought about bad books In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002e01c761a5$ce734f30$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> I?d had a few books I?ve had to trash (water damage, etc.) and a few I?ve gotten rid of because I dislike, but I generally subscribe to the sentiment, for that is what it is. The simple feeling that every book is a verbal gesture. They are generally less harmful than many physical gestures, though there are, arguably some which are more. Words are how we make ourselves most known, for the writer (I?m not referring to biographical material in the work), and that gesture is respected by other writers. Anyway, that?s how I took it. -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Elaine Brown Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:29 PM To: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views Subject: [BULK] Re: [New-Poetry] kindly thought about bad books Importance: Low Don?t get me wrong with this question. I?m a total bookophile. But why should we regard books as sacred? I mean, a thing just *being* a book is enough to mean the thing is sacred? This seems not obviously right to me (which does not mean it is wrong). Anyone have a well-argued reason? On 3/7/07 9:06 AM, "JforJames at aol.com" wrote: As bab blurbs have ebbed away, here's a thought to end that thread... 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I much prefer my Halvard degree. Amicalement, Alex www.alexdickow.net/blog/ les mots! ah quel d?sert ? la fin merveilleux. -- Henri Droguet From jforjames at aol.com Thu Mar 8 14:05:06 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:05:06 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] a book that takes pride in its imperfections Message-ID: <8C92FCBD1774BB4-1F4-1597@webmail-md07.sysops.aol.com> http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20070312&s=ree The Strains of Inspiration by JONATHAN R&EACUTE;E [from the March 12, 2007 issue] Samuel Taylor Coleridge made quite a splash with his first book, a small volume of Poems on Various Subjects printed and published in Bristol in the spring of 1796. He was a young man, 23 years of age, well-known in the Bristol area as a lecturer and dissenting lay preacher, and notorious as a political radical, or--to use the language of the time--a "democrat" and "liberty man." He now took the opportunity to expatiate in verse on his commitment to "equality," his "joy" at the blood-red French Revolution, his longing to live in a community without "individual property" and his hopes of moving to America with his democratic friends to "follow the sweet dream,/Where Susquehannah pours his untam'd stream." He compounded the provocation with a long philosophical poem in which his energetic Christianity was harnessed to the heretical themes of Unitarianism and pantheism and further onslaughts on private ownership as the root of all evil. But what really stirred up Coleridge's readers, at a time when poetry was debated with as much passion as politics or religion, was his peculiar literary style. Poems on Various Subjects is a book that takes pride in its imperfections. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anny.ballardini at tin.it Thu Mar 8 14:39:28 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:39:28 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Todd Davis from the Writer's Almanac References: Message-ID: <005d01c761b9$7c7cdbb0$88ad3452@ANNY> Re: [New-Poetry] Todd Davis from the Writer's AlmanacIt's incredible, isn't it? From: Elaine Brown Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:21 PM Thank you for posting that, Anny! On 3/8/07 6:39 AM, "Anny Ballardini" wrote: Poem: "Prayer Requests at a Mennonite Church" by Todd Davis from Some Heaven. ? Michigan State University Press. Reprinted with permission. (buy now ) Prayer Requests at a Mennonite Church Pray for the Smucker family. Their son Nathaniel's coat and shirt were caught in the gears while grinding grain. Nothing would give, so now he is gone. We made his clothes too well. Perhaps this is our sin. Pray for the Birky family. Their son Jacob fell to his death in the granary. He was covered in corn before they could stop the pouring~ chest crushed by the weight, seed spilling from his mouth. We hope something will grow from this, besides our grief. Pray for the Hartzler family. Their youngest has left the church and no longer believes that Christ died for her sins. She buys clothes at the mall. Tongue pierced, nose as well. Her shirt shows her belly where a ring of gold sprouts. We pray she will remember that her Lord's side was pierced, that His crown held no gold, only the dried blood of His brow. Pray for the Miller family. Last week their daughter, who lives in Kalona, lost her baby at birth. Child only half-formed: head turned the wrong way; heart laid on the outside of her chest; one leg little more than an afterthought. Lord, help them know that life may come again, that we are all made whole in heaven. Pray for the Stutzman family. Their son fights in the war. We call him back to the Prince of Peace, to our Savior who knelt to gather the slave's ear, brushed the dirt away, lifted it to the side of his flushed face. May we leave no scars. May we ask no blessing for the killing done in His name. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hawkbrwn at msn.com Thu Mar 8 15:49:07 2007 From: hawkbrwn at msn.com (Elaine Brown) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:49:07 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Todd Davis from the Writer's Almanac In-Reply-To: <005d01c761b9$7c7cdbb0$88ad3452@ANNY> Message-ID: Yes! It?s powerful, slow building (but engaging right from the start), moving. On 3/8/07 2:39 PM, "Anny Ballardini" wrote: > It's incredible, isn't it? >> >> From: Elaine Brown >> >> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:21 PM >> >> >> Thank you for posting that, Anny! >> >> >> On 3/8/07 6:39 AM, "Anny Ballardini" wrote: >> >> >>> Poem: "Prayer Requests at a Mennonite Church" by Todd Davis from Some >>> Heaven. ? Michigan State University Press. Reprinted with permission. (buy >>> now >>> ">>> > >>> >> vj> ) >>> >>> Prayer Requests at a Mennonite Church >>> >>> Pray for the Smucker family. Their son Nathaniel's coat and shirt were >>> caught in the gears while grinding grain. Nothing would give, so now >>> he is gone. We made his clothes too well. Perhaps this is our sin. >>> >>> Pray for the Birky family. Their son Jacob fell to his death in the >>> granary. He was covered in corn before they could stop the pouring? >>> chest crushed by the weight, seed spilling from his mouth. We hope >>> something will grow from this, besides our grief. >>> >>> Pray for the Hartzler family. Their youngest has left the church and no >>> longer believes that Christ died for her sins. She buys clothes at the >>> mall. Tongue pierced, nose as well. Her shirt shows her belly where a >>> ring of gold sprouts. We pray she will remember that her Lord's side >>> was pierced, that His crown held no gold, only the dried blood of His >>> brow. >>> >>> Pray for the Miller family. Last week their daughter, who lives in >>> Kalona, lost her baby at birth. Child only half-formed: head turned the >>> wrong way; heart laid on the outside of her chest; one leg little more >>> than an afterthought. Lord, help them know that life may come again, >>> that we are all made whole in heaven. >>> >>> Pray for the Stutzman family. Their son fights in the war. We call him >>> back to the Prince of Peace, to our Savior who knelt to gather the >>> slave's ear, brushed the dirt away, lifted it to the side of his flushed >>> face. >>> May we leave no scars. May we ask no blessing for the killing done in >>> His name. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anny Ballardini >>> http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ >>> http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome >>> http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html >>> I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing >>> star! >>> Friedrich Nietzsche >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tad at opus40.org Thu Mar 8 20:16:21 2007 From: tad at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:16:21 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Helping Frost out Message-ID: <005c01c761e8$8c3292a0$6401a8c0@OldMoleExpress> >From the current Harper's, this list of ideas from Frost's notebooks. Story of the cigar box and the counter?revolutionary. Story of the unhappy child at the amateur theatricals. Story of not being chosen by the eagle for Jove's cup bearer. Story of Darwinian suicides and Marxian murderers. Story of the very poor man on fifteen a week for forty years. Story of the very rich man in the Pullman car. Story of the man who wouldn't let himself be lost by one fatal mistake. Blood poison, tetanus, syphilis. Story of the equalitarian who thought it would be all right to use your literary reputation to get the better of an officious official. Story of the campaign speech in favor of slavery. Story of planned economy on Easter Island where the population was limited to nine hundred by killing either the newborn at one end or an old person at the other. Story of the one-armed teacher who became first citizen of Glastonbury. Story of the encounter with the man who thought too well of humanity to despair of its becoming Utopian. Not just our faults, but our virtues stand in the way of the perfect state. Story of Tristan da Cunha and the Circumnavigators. Story of Joseph Albany's singing daughter. Story of the hard drinker's disbelief in disinterestedness. Story of the man who originated the slogan, No rivers to the sea. And, since Frost is no longer around to turn these ideas into verse, it seems to me that it falls to us to help him out. So I propose that we each take a turn in writing up one of these in the style of Robert Frost. I'll get the ball rolling. STORY OF THE CIGAR BOX AND THE COUNTER?REVOLUTIONARY. I'd just come from the field, pulled off my boots, And settled in before the fire, when Discovering I was fresh out of cheroots, I told myself, "I must go out again." An empty box at the tobacconist's: El Rey Havanas, with a list of contacts Whom I suspected might be Communists >From north of Boston to the Adirondacks. Well, truth be told, I'd contacts of my own, Dick Nixon, Parnell Thomas, Martin Dies; I rang up Central on the telephone, Gave her a number: 'twas the FBI's. Here in New England, we can't be too wary: Poets are counterrevolutionary. Tad Richards www.opus40.org http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at louisiana.edu Thu Mar 8 20:24:10 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:24:10 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Setting idea for poem or incident in short story (though I'll bet it already exists): In-Reply-To: <613089.27007.qm@web35504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000701c761e9$a990ecb0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> A mugger on his cell phone (telling his girl friend he loves her or asking her to pick up beans at the store) while robbing someone. Maybe this has actually happened? From tad at opus40.org Thu Mar 8 22:13:03 2007 From: tad at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:13:03 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] a book that takes pride in its imperfections References: <8C92FCBD1774BB4-1F4-1597@webmail-md07.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <00fd01c761f8$dade8bb0$6401a8c0@OldMoleExpress> I've often imagined the difference in two national literary traditions if Coleridge had moved to America. And Keats, for that matter, to join his brother. ----- Original Message ----- From: jforjames at aol.com To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: [New-Poetry] a book that takes pride in its imperfections http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20070312&s=ree The Strains of Inspiration by JONATHAN R&EACUTE;E [from the March 12, 2007 issue] Samuel Taylor Coleridge made quite a splash with his first book, a small volume of Poems on Various Subjects printed and published in Bristol in the spring of 1796. He was a young man, 23 years of age, well-known in the Bristol area as a lecturer and dissenting lay preacher, and notorious as a political radical, or--to use the language of the time--a "democrat" and "liberty man." He now took the opportunity to expatiate in verse on his commitment to "equality," his "joy" at the blood-red French Revolution, his longing to live in a community without "individual property" and his hopes of moving to America with his democratic friends to "follow the sweet dream,/Where Susquehannah pours his untam'd stream." He compounded the provocation with a long philosophical poem in which his energetic Christianity was harnessed to the heretical themes of Unitarianism and pantheism and further onslaughts on private ownership as the root of all evil. But what really stirred up Coleridge! 's readers, at a time when poetry was debated with as much passion as politics or religion, was his peculiar literary style. Poems on Various Subjects is a book that takes pride in its imperfections. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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Thank, Linda Sue ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Question: I am trying to identify an 18th or 19th century narrative poem I read as an adolescent, whose essence is this: A wealthy, admired, handsome man, perhaps a judge, is travelling down a country road, where he encounters a peasant girl in the adjacent fields. Does he ask her for water for himself or his horse? Perhaps. In any case, although the interaction, whatever its nature, is exceptionally brief it has an emotional impact on both that belies its apparently triviality. Each instantly and intensely imagines himself (herself) rescued from their societally-decreed destiny, he to forsake a demanding and artificial life to live as a simple farmer, she to be lifted from the dusty drudgery of the peasant existence to be the mistress of a manor. My faint recollection is that their ardent yearnings were NOT simply a general desire to be transported out of their current lives but included a fair measure of old-fashioned boy-girl attraction, perhaps heightened by the impossibility of its being consummated. And indeed it was not- each goes on to do exactly what is expected of them , however regretfully. (Although I recall thinking when I read it that the poet, in simultaneously presenting these two essentially contrary fantasies, might have been suggesting that neither way of life was inherently satisfying (or stultifying) and had either attained their desire they would eventually have been as dissatisfied with their new existence as they were with their old, due to "human nature" or their own particular natures.) But what poem is this, whose name and author have eluded the fumbling attempts of this novice researcher to ascertain them? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, agj --- new-poetry-request at wiz.cath.vt.edu wrote: > Send New-Poetry mailing list submissions to > new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > new-poetry-request at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > new-poetry-owner at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of New-Poetry digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: bad blurbs by others: Dorothy Parker > (Suzanne Burns) > 2. poetry degrees (Alexander Dickow) > 3. a book that takes pride in its imperfections > (jforjames at aol.com) > 4. Re: Todd Davis from the Writer's Almanac (Anny > Ballardini) > 5. Re: Todd Davis from the Writer's Almanac > (Elaine Brown) > 6. Helping Frost out (TheOldMole) > 7. Setting idea for poem or incident in short > story (though I'll > bet it already exists): (Skip Fox) > 8. Re: a book that takes pride in its > imperfections (TheOldMole) > 9. Poem ID (Linda Sue Grimes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:38:31 -0500 > From: "Suzanne Burns" > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] bad blurbs by others: > Dorothy Parker > To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &, > Views" > > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I think Ms. Parker also wrote in a particularly > scathing review: > "So-and-so's poetry will be read long after Homer, > Shakespeare, and Keats > are forgotten-- but not until then." > > :-) > > Suzanne Burns > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/pipermail/new-poetry/attachments/20070308/33b8b8ce/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:03:29 -0800 (PST) > From: Alexander Dickow > Subject: [New-Poetry] poetry degrees > To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > Message-ID: > <613089.27007.qm at web35504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > "And my Harvard / degree didn?t help" > > Ain't that the truth? I much prefer my Halvard > degree. > Amicalement, > Alex > > www.alexdickow.net/blog/ > > les mots! ah quel d?sert ? la fin > merveilleux. -- Henri Droguet > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:05:06 -0500 > From: jforjames at aol.com > Subject: [New-Poetry] a book that takes pride in its > imperfections > To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > Message-ID: > <8C92FCBD1774BB4-1F4-1597 at webmail-md07.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20070312&s=ree > > The Strains of Inspiration > by JONATHAN R&EACUTE;E > [from the March 12, 2007 issue] > > Samuel Taylor Coleridge made quite a splash with his > first book, a small volume of Poems on Various > Subjects printed and published in Bristol in the > spring of 1796. He was a young man, 23 years of age, > well-known in the Bristol area as a lecturer and > dissenting lay preacher, and notorious as a > political radical, or--to use the language of the > time--a "democrat" and "liberty man." He now took > the opportunity to expatiate in verse on his > commitment to "equality," his "joy" at the blood-red > French Revolution, his longing to live in a > community without "individual property" and his > hopes of moving to America with his democratic > friends to "follow the sweet dream,/Where > Susquehannah pours his untam'd stream." He > compounded the provocation with a long philosophical > poem in which his energetic Christianity was > harnessed to the heretical themes of Unitarianism > and pantheism and further onslaughts on private > ownership as the root of all evil. But what really > stirred up Coleridge's re! > aders, at a time when poetry was debated with as > much passion as politics or religion, was his > peculiar literary style. > > Poems on Various Subjects is a book that takes pride > in its imperfections. > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out > more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/pipermail/new-poetry/attachments/20070308/ee21b660/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:39:28 +0100 > From: "Anny Ballardini" > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Todd Davis from the > Writer's Almanac > To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & > Views" > > Message-ID: <005d01c761b9$7c7cdbb0$88ad3452 at ANNY> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Re: [New-Poetry] Todd Davis from the Writer's > AlmanacIt's incredible, isn't it? > From: Elaine Brown > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:21 PM > > > Thank you for posting that, Anny! > > > On 3/8/07 6:39 AM, "Anny Ballardini" > wrote: > > > Poem: "Prayer Requests at a Mennonite Church" by > Todd Davis from Some Heaven. ? Michigan State > University Press. Reprinted with permission. (buy > now > > ) > > Prayer Requests at a Mennonite Church > > Pray for the Smucker family. Their son > Nathaniel's coat and shirt were > caught in the gears while grinding grain. > Nothing would give, so now > he is gone. We made his clothes too well. > Perhaps this is our sin. > > Pray for the Birky family. Their son Jacob fell > to his death in the > granary. He was covered in corn before they > could stop the pouring~ > chest crushed by the weight, seed spilling from > his mouth. We hope > something will grow from this, besides our > grief. > > Pray for the Hartzler family. Their youngest has > left the church and no > longer believes that Christ died for her sins. > She buys clothes at the > mall. Tongue pierced, nose as well. Her shirt > shows her belly where a > ring of gold sprouts. We pray she will remember > that her Lord's side > was pierced, that His crown held no gold, only > the dried blood of His > brow. > > Pray for the Miller family. Last week their > daughter, who lives in > Kalona, lost her baby at birth. Child only > half-formed: head turned the > wrong way; heart laid on the outside of her > chest; one leg little more > than an afterthought. Lord, help them know that > life may come again, > that we are all made whole in heaven. > > Pray for the Stutzman family. Their son fights > in the war. We call him > back to the Prince of Peace, to our Savior who > knelt to gather the > slave's ear, brushed the dirt away, lifted it to > the side of his flushed face. > May we leave no scars. May we ask no blessing > for the killing done in > His name. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Anny Ballardini > http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome > http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html > I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to > give birth to a dancing star! > Friedrich Nietzsche > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/pipermail/new-poetry/attachments/20070308/5e6b08d9/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:49:07 -0500 > From: Elaine Brown > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Todd Davis from the > Writer's Almanac > To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & > Views" > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Yes! It?s powerful, slow building (but engaging > right from the start), > moving. > > > On 3/8/07 2:39 PM, "Anny Ballardini" > wrote: > > > It's incredible, isn't it? > >> > >> From: Elaine Brown > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:21 PM > >> > >> > >> Thank you for posting that, Anny! > >> > >> > >> On 3/8/07 6:39 AM, "Anny Ballardini" > wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Poem: "Prayer Requests at a Mennonite Church" > by Todd Davis from Some > >>> Heaven. ? Michigan State University Press. > Reprinted with permission. (buy > >>> now > >>> > "> >>> > > >>> > >>> vj> ) > >>> > >>> Prayer Requests at a Mennonite Church > >>> > >>> Pray for the Smucker family. Their son > Nathaniel's coat and shirt were > >>> caught in the gears while grinding grain. > Nothing would give, so now > >>> he is gone. We made his clothes too well. > Perhaps this is our sin. > >>> > >>> Pray for the Birky family. Their son Jacob fell > to his death in the > >>> granary. He was covered in corn before they > could stop the pouring? > >>> chest crushed by the weight, seed spilling from > his mouth. We hope > >>> something will grow from this, besides our > grief. > >>> > >>> Pray for the Hartzler family. Their youngest > has left the church and no > >>> longer believes that Christ died for her sins. > She buys clothes at the > >>> mall. Tongue pierced, nose as well. Her shirt > shows her belly where a > >>> ring of gold sprouts. We pray she will remember > that her Lord's side > >>> was pierced, that His crown held no gold, only > the dried blood of His > >>> brow. > >>> > >>> Pray for the Miller family. Last week their > daughter, who lives in > >>> Kalona, lost her baby at birth. Child only > half-formed: head turned the > >>> wrong way; heart laid on the outside of her > chest; one leg little more > >>> than an afterthought. Lord, help them know that > life may come again, > >>> that we are all made whole in heaven. > >>> > >>> Pray for the Stutzman family. Their son fights > in the war. We call him > >>> back to the Prince of Peace, to our Savior who > knelt to gather the > >>> slave's ear, brushed the dirt away, lifted it to > the side of his flushed > >>> face. > >>> May we leave no scars. May we ask no blessing > for the killing done in > >>> His name. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Anny Ballardini > >>> http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ > >>> > http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome > >>> http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html > >>> I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to > give birth to a dancing > >>> star! > >>> Friedrich Nietzsche > >>> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New-Poetry mailing list > > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/pipermail/new-poetry/attachments/20070308/b1981036/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:16:21 -0500 > From: "TheOldMole" > Subject: [New-Poetry] Helping Frost out > To: "NewPo" > Message-ID: > <005c01c761e8$8c3292a0$6401a8c0 at OldMoleExpress> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > >From the current Harper's, this list of ideas from > Frost's notebooks. > > Story of the cigar box and the > counter?revolutionary. > > Story of the unhappy child at the amateur > > theatricals. > > > > Story of not being chosen by the eagle for Jove's > cup bearer. > > > > Story of Darwinian suicides and Marxian > > murderers. > > > > Story of the very poor man on fifteen a week > > for forty years. > > > > Story of the very rich man in the Pullman car. > > > > Story of the man who wouldn't let himself be > > lost by one fatal mistake. Blood poison, > > tetanus, syphilis. > > > > Story of the equalitarian who thought it would be > all right to use your literary reputation to get the > better of an officious official. > > > > Story of the campaign speech in favor of slavery. > > > > Story of planned economy on Easter Island where the > population was limited to nine hundred by killing > either the newborn at one end or an old person at > the other. > > > > Story of the one-armed teacher who became first > citizen of Glastonbury. > > > > Story of the encounter with the man who thought too > well of humanity to despair of its becoming Utopian. > Not just our faults, but our virtues stand in the > way of the perfect state. > > > > Story of Tristan da Cunha and the Circumnavigators. > > > > Story of Joseph Albany's singing daughter. > > > > Story of the hard drinker's disbelief in > disinterestedness. > > > > Story of the man who originated the slogan, No > rivers to the sea. > > > > And, since Frost is no longer around to turn these > ideas into verse, it seems to me that it falls to us > to help him out. So I propose that we each take a > turn in writing up one of these in the style of > Robert Frost. I'll get the ball rolling. > > > > STORY OF THE CIGAR BOX AND THE > COUNTER?REVOLUTIONARY. > > > > I'd just come from the field, pulled off my boots, > > And settled in before the fire, when > > Discovering I was fresh out of cheroots, > > I told myself, "I must go out again." > > > > An empty box at the tobacconist's: > > El Rey Havanas, with a list of contacts > > Whom I suspected might be Communists > > >From north of Boston to the Adirondacks. > > > > Well, truth be told, I'd contacts of my own, > > Dick Nixon, Parnell Thomas, Martin Dies; > > I rang up Central on the telephone, > > Gave her a number: 'twas the FBI's. > > > > Here in New England, we can't be too wary: > > Poets are counterrevolutionary. > > > > Tad Richards > www.opus40.org > http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/pipermail/new-poetry/attachments/20070308/7d249b1c/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:24:10 -0600 > From: "Skip Fox" > Subject: [New-Poetry] Setting idea for poem or > incident in short story > (though I'll bet it already exists): > To: "'NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & > Views'" > > Message-ID: > <000701c761e9$a990ecb0$f4954682 at win.louisiana.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > A mugger on his cell phone (telling his girl friend > he loves her or asking > her to pick up beans at the store) while robbing > someone. > > Maybe this has actually happened? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:13:03 -0500 > From: "TheOldMole" > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] a book that takes pride in > its imperfections > To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & > Views" > > Message-ID: > <00fd01c761f8$dade8bb0$6401a8c0 at OldMoleExpress> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I've often imagined the difference in two national > literary traditions if Coleridge had moved to > America. And Keats, for that matter, to join his > brother. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jforjames at aol.com > To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:05 PM > Subject: [New-Poetry] a book that takes pride in > its imperfections > > > > http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20070312&s=ree > > The Strains of Inspiration > by JONATHAN R&EACUTE;E > [from the March 12, 2007 issue] > > Samuel Taylor Coleridge made quite a splash with > his first book, a small volume of Poems on Various > Subjects printed and published in Bristol in the > spring of 1796. He was a young man, 23 years of age, > well-known in the Bristol area as a lecturer and > dissenting lay preacher, and notorious as a > political radical, or--to use the language of the > time--a "democrat" and "liberty man." He now took > the opportunity to expatiate in verse on his > commitment to "equality," his "joy" at the blood-red > French Revolution, his longing to live in a > community without "individual property" and his > hopes of moving to America with his democratic > friends to "follow the sweet dream,/Where > Susquehannah pours his untam'd stream." He > compounded the provocation with a long philosophical > poem in which his energetic Christianity was > harnessed to the heretical themes of Unitarianism > and pantheism and further onslaughts on private > ownership as the root of all evil. But what really > stirred up Coleridge! '! > s readers, at a time when poetry was debated with as > much passion as politics or religion, was his > peculiar literary style. > > Poems on Various Subjects is a book that takes > pride in its imperfections. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out > more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/pipermail/new-poetry/attachments/20070308/bf9b038f/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:08:17 -0600 > From: "Linda Sue Grimes" > Subject: [New-Poetry] Poem ID > To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & > Views" > > Message-ID: > <000b01c76254$635af9f0$0201a8c0 at LindaSue> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Dear New-Poetry Listers, > > I have received the following question where I > volunteer, and I cannot think what poem this might > be. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank, > Linda Sue > ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Question: > I am trying to identify an 18th or 19th century > narrative poem I read as an adolescent, whose > essence is this: A wealthy, admired, handsome man, > perhaps a judge, is travelling down a country road, > where he encounters a peasant girl in the adjacent > fields. Does he ask her for water for himself or > his horse? Perhaps. In any case, although the > interaction, whatever its nature, is exceptionally > brief it has an emotional impact on both that belies > its apparently triviality. Each instantly and > intensely imagines himself (herself) rescued from > their societally-decreed destiny, he to forsake a > demanding and artificial life to live as a simple > farmer, she to be lifted from the dusty drudgery of > the peasant existence to be the mistress of a manor. > My faint recollection is that their ardent yearnings > were NOT simply a general desire to be transported > out of their current lives but included a fair > measure of old-fashioned boy-girl attraction, > perhaps heightened by the impossibility! > of its being consummated. And indeed it was not- > each goes on to do exactly what is expected of them > , however regretfully. (Although I recall thinking > when I read it that the poet, in simultaneously > presenting these two essentially contrary fantasies, > might have been suggesting that neither way of life > was inherently satisfying (or stultifying) and had > either attained their desire they would eventually > have been as dissatisfied with their new existence > as they were with their old, due to "human nature" > or their own particular natures.) But what poem is > this, whose name and author have eluded the fumbling > attempts of this novice researcher to ascertain > them? > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/pipermail/new-poetry/attachments/20070309/1b9a118a/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > > > End of New-Poetry Digest, Vol 33, Issue 13 > ****************************************** > --- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From Rsgwynn1 at cs.com Fri Mar 9 23:04:55 2007 From: Rsgwynn1 at cs.com (Rsgwynn1 at cs.com) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:04:55 EST Subject: [New-Poetry] Poem ID Message-ID: Maud Muller, by Whittier. Also see Bret Harte's parody of it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From suelin7184 at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 07:33:53 2007 From: suelin7184 at gmail.com (Linda Sue Grimes) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:33:53 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poem ID References: Message-ID: <001a01c76310$5db49210$0201a8c0@LindaSue> Thank you so much! LSG ----- Original Message ----- From: Rsgwynn1 at cs.com To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poem ID Maud Muller, by Whittier. 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If I'm not, he wants to be scratched; if I am He'll think of something. He settles on my chest, breathing his breath of burped-up meat and musty sofas, purring like a washboard. Some other tomcat, not yet a capon, has been spraying our front door, declaring war. It's all about sex and territory, which are what will finish us off in the long run. Some cat owners around here should snip a few testicles. If we wise hominids were sensible, we'd do that too, or eat our young, like sharks. But it's love that does us in. Over and over Again, He shoots, he scores! and famine crouches in the bedsheets, ambushing the pulsing eiderdown, and the windchill factor hits thirty below, and the pollution pours out of our chimneys to keep us warm. February, month of despair, with a skewered heart in the centre. I think dire thoughts, and lust for French fries with a splash of vinegar. Cat, enough of your greedy whining and your small pink bumhole. Off my face! You're the life principle, more or less, so get going on a little optimism around here. Get rid of death. Celebrate increase. Make it be spring. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From skip at louisiana.edu Mon Mar 12 12:30:28 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:30:28 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] How is Bill Sylvester? Anyone know? In-Reply-To: <7ABE0867-DCD3-4D14-B7EA-1743CB7078B0@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <004201c764c3$c4a0c7a0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> " . . . for all the tricks, and for all the hard thinking, we have to rely upon intuition." (Bill Sylvester. _Fever Spreading into Light: Five Lectures on the Sources of Energy in Literature_. Ashland, OH: Ashland Poetry Press, 1992. 59.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halvard at earthlink.net Mon Mar 12 13:13:42 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:13:42 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] How is Bill Sylvester? Anyone know? In-Reply-To: <004201c764c3$c4a0c7a0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> References: <004201c764c3$c4a0c7a0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Message-ID: <70F5B3DD-6847-46DC-B16C-A37FC594A151@earthlink.net> I heard from him via email back around the end of Jan. Seemed fine. Hal "If Gladstone fell into the Thames, that would be a misfortune, and if someone pulled him out, that, I suppose, would be a calamity." --Benjamin Disraeli Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 12, 2007, at 10:30 AM, Skip Fox wrote: > ? . . . for all the tricks, and for all the hard thinking, we have > to rely upon intuition.? > > (Bill Sylvester. _Fever Spreading into Light: Five Lectures > > on the Sources of Energy in Literature_. Ashland, OH: > > Ashland Poetry Press, 1992. 59.) > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at louisiana.edu Mon Mar 12 15:36:32 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:36:32 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Magic Spells (word squares) In-Reply-To: <613089.27007.qm@web35504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005801c764dd$c305b670$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Have you ever tried this? Here's a beautiful one from mid-19th cent.: CIRCLE ICARUS RAREST CREATE LUSTER ESTEEM I've not done any with six letters, but here's a 5-letter spell that erases itself: ERASE RARER ARENA SENDS ERASE (erase around all sides) Some groupings are rather interesting: mind idea nest data Story goes that many of these were done in Latin with religious terms/ideas/elements and used by Romans and others for luck and fortune by placing the "spell" 9n a notable place like outside their front gate. From anny.ballardini at tin.it Mon Mar 12 16:06:07 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:06:07 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Magic Spells (word squares) References: <005801c764dd$c305b670$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Message-ID: <002c01c764e2$1dec9960$89a33852@ANNY> I like the erase one, have a look at Zimmerman's Isotopes: http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=Content&pa=list_pages_categories&cid=44 p.s.: I would love to have one to place outside my door in any language From: "Skip Fox" Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:36 PM > Have you ever tried this? Here's a beautiful one from mid-19th cent.: > > CIRCLE > ICARUS > RAREST > CREATE > LUSTER > ESTEEM > > I've not done any with six letters, but here's a 5-letter spell that > erases > itself: > > ERASE > RARER > ARENA > SENDS > ERASE > > (erase around all sides) > > Some groupings are rather interesting: > > mind > idea > nest > data > > Story goes that many of these were done in Latin with religious > terms/ideas/elements and used by Romans and others for luck and fortune by > placing the "spell" 9n a notable place like outside their front gate. > From queenmouse at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 10:20:39 2007 From: queenmouse at gmail.com (Suzanne Burns) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Magic Spells (word squares) In-Reply-To: <005801c764dd$c305b670$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> References: <613089.27007.qm@web35504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <005801c764dd$c305b670$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Message-ID: Whoooooooaaaah! I want to dig up more of these! I see a calligraphy project. Any sources? Thanks! Suzanne On 3/12/07, Skip Fox wrote: > > Have you ever tried this? Here's a beautiful one from mid-19th cent.: > > CIRCLE > ICARUS > RAREST > CREATE > LUSTER > ESTEEM > > I've not done any with six letters, but here's a 5-letter spell that > erases > itself: > > ERASE > RARER > ARENA > SENDS > ERASE > > (erase around all sides) > > Some groupings are rather interesting: > > mind > idea > nest > data > > Story goes that many of these were done in Latin with religious > terms/ideas/elements and used by Romans and others for luck and fortune by > placing the "spell" 9n a notable place like outside their front gate. > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- "I will take the Ring to Mordor...though...I do not know the way." Frodo Baggins, Fellowship of the Ring -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at louisiana.edu Tue Mar 13 11:52:26 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:52:26 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Magic Spells (word squares) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c76587$9ef560a0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Can't remember where I saw with the Latin information. That's pretty standard. I saw the 6 word one in _Jess_, the book of art by Jess Collins, and he gives the source at a 1859 _Notes & Queries_ piece by W. W. titled "Squaring the Circle" (July 2, p. 8). When I mentioned them to Christin Bok, it seemed as though he knew much about them. (Did he do a Rubric's Cube instillation with one?) Tried to write one this morning which might work well as asking blessings on this dwelling, but didn't do so well: STOP TIME 0MEN PENT Some earlier ones: time alba code epos Isis loam open pine miss bade dead once esse amen ends seen (I kind of like the last one. Sort of an ubi sunt, right?) You can do 4-letter magic spells in your head (laying awake at night, for instance). Maybe someone really sharp can do 5- or 6-letter ones in this fashion. I can't do 6-letter ones at all, but I hear someone did an 11-letter one. (Or, perhaps, that they were working on it.) Someone who is trilingual or bilingual would really be able to tear these up. style trout youth lutea Ethan -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Suzanne Burns Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:21 AM To: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &,Views Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Magic Spells (word squares) Whoooooooaaaah! I want to dig up more of these! I see a calligraphy project. Any sources? Thanks! Suzanne On 3/12/07, Skip Fox wrote: Have you ever tried this? Here's a beautiful one from mid-19th cent.: CIRCLE ICARUS RAREST CREATE LUSTER ESTEEM I've not done any with six letters, but here's a 5-letter spell that erases itself: ERASE RARER ARENA SENDS ERASE (erase around all sides) Some groupings are rather interesting: mind idea nest data Story goes that many of these were done in Latin with religious terms/ideas/elements and used by Romans and others for luck and fortune by placing the "spell" 9n a notable place like outside their front gate. _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -- "I will take the Ring to Mordor...though...I do not know the way." Frodo Baggins, Fellowship of the Ring -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Suzanne On 3/12/07, Skip Fox wrote: Have you ever tried this? Here's a beautiful one from mid-19th cent.: CIRCLE ICARUS RAREST CREATE LUSTER ESTEEM I've not done any with six letters, but here's a 5-letter spell that erases itself: ERASE RARER ARENA SENDS ERASE (erase around all sides) Some groupings are rather interesting: mind idea nest data Story goes that many of these were done in Latin with religious terms/ideas/elements and used by Romans and others for luck and fortune by placing the "spell" 9n a notable place like outside their front gate. _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -- "I will take the Ring to Mordor...though...I do not know the way." Frodo Baggins, Fellowship of the Ring -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From longing for the family in the very midst of the family, to the play of the mind which mimics and shepherds the visible games of children, Browne offers here the mimesis of the possible, a moving reflection of action and intimacy, a letting go and a grasping of the poetic and the political, all in the firm hold of song. http://www.spdbooks.org/Details.asp?BookID=9781933996004 **New Poetry from Black Ocean** THE MAN SUIT Schomburg, Zachary $12.95 / PA / 105pp. Black Ocean 2007 ISBN: 978-0-9777709-3-9 Poetry. THE MAN SUIT, a darkly comic debut from poet Zachary Schomburg, assembles a macabre cast of doppelgangers, talking animals and dead presidents in poems that explore concepts of identity, truth and fate. The resulting body of work walks a dynamic line?often reading like anecdotal fables or cautionary tales in the form of prose poems. Through it all, Schomburg balances irony with sincerity; wit with candor; and a playful tone with the knowledge of inevitable sorrow. 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Moving between doubt and vulnerability, the body and its unresolved spiritual fate, these poems dedicate themselves to the pursuit of redemption. "In these tight and resonant lyrics, logic, precision, and affection coalesce. Opening with the self as a winged fruit, Kryah goes on to find more and more facets of being that negotiate body, name, and world in a way that brings out both their reverence and their rigor. Like prayer that needs nothing to pray to, these poems continually open, enlarging our view"?Cole Swenson. GLEAN is the winner of the 2005 Nightboat Poetry Prize. http://www.spdbooks.org/Details.asp?BookID=0976718545 **New Poetry from Ahsahta Press** IN NO ONE'S LAND Ackerson-Kiely, Paige $16.00 / PA / 75pp. Ahsahta Press 2007 ISBN: 978-0-916272-92-0 Poetry. Winner of the 2006 Sawtooth Poetry Prize, Paige Ackerson-Kiely's IN NO ONE'S LAND "...stakes a claim on wilderness and, most assuredly, mannages to homestead there. These are not the poems borne of quiet contemplation; they are edgy and lurid, painfully administering to the world of convenience stores, diners, one-night stands..daring to pick at the raw skin of being and to call it beauty...From the starkness of glaciers to the empty refrigerator, these poems rise from the most barren landscapes and manage to make of them fabled islands, joyful joyful things"?D.A. Powell. http://www.spdbooks.org/Details.asp?BookID=9780916272920 **New Poetry from Fairweather Books/Bedbug Press** FRIDAY AND THE YEAR THAT FOLLOWED Morales, Juan J. $13.95 / PA / 80pp. Fairweather Books/Bedbug Press 2006 ISBN: 978-0-9771973-5-4 Poetry. Latino/Latina Studies. Juan J. Morales was born in the U.S. but has extended family in Ecuador and Puerto Rico; family stories inspired much of the poems in FRIDAY AND THE YEAR THAT FOLLOWED. Juan received his MFA from the University of New Mexico in 2005. His poetry has appeared in Blue Mesa Review, Borderlands: Texas Poetry Review, Poet Lore, and War, Literature, and the Arts. >From Ecuador to Puerto Rico to Vietnam and some points in between, this collection covers a great deal of space and time: we're shown the devastation of an earthquake along with the kind of magic one associates with One Hundred Years of Solitude?mystical healing, capturing witches, curing imbecility. Striking imagery, concrete use of detail, and vigorous language make these poems important contributions to U.S./Hispanic culture. http://www.spdbooks.org/Details.asp?BookID=9780977197354 GUTTED Chin, Justin $13.95 / PA / 96pp. Manic D Press 2006 ISBN: 978-1-933149-07-3 Poetry. Gay/Lesbian Studies. GUTTED, Justin Chin's third collection, is forged with wry wit from the defining events of a troubled period in the poet's life. While trying to make sense of this ever-churning, terror-filled world, Chin found himself traveling repeatedly home to Southeast Asia?a region unnerved and raging with SARS and the Avian Flu?to help care for his father who had suddenly been declared terminally ill with cancer. In addition to his father's illness, Chin was managing his own health and medical annoyances and preparing for a looming US citizenship test. GUTTED is a document of growing older?a massively moving work of grief, loss, comfort, illness, and resolve?imbued with Chin's screwy perspective, ever-defective grace, and scabrous humor. http://www.spdbooks.org/Details.asp?BookID=1933149078 _______________________________________________________________________ Powered by Microsoft Small Business To unsubscribe follow the link: http://lb.bcentral.com/ex/sp?c=11423&s=15565EE8C787A222&m=272 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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URL: From anny.ballardini at tin.it Thu Mar 15 18:22:13 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:22:13 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry References: <8C9353F972A3E01-D70-64DF@webmail-db15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001e01c76750$61f306b0$8aed3652@ANNY> If I were rich enough to be a benefactor I would also support a Zen monastery. ----- Original Message ----- From: jforjames at aol.com To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/arts/story.html?id=d1227742-43f0-448a-98dc-05f22c1bdd25 A poetry festival beyond description Montreal Zen centre launches event as it looks toward a move from benevolent landlord Leonard Cohen PAT DONNELLY, The Gazette Published: Thursday, March 15, 2007 The abbess is in. Her name is Myokyo. She serves green tea and talks of a newborn literary festival devoted to Zen poetry and her dreams of raising enough funds to secure a larger, permanent home temple (called Enpuku-ji) for Rinzai Zen in Montreal. For 12 years, the Centre Zen de la Main at 30 Vallieres St. on the Plateau has been living rent-free, thanks to the generosity of a landlord who also happens to be a Zen Buddhist - and a poet, not to mention a pop music icon: Leonard Cohen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cervantes.james at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 20:37:52 2007 From: cervantes.james at gmail.com (James Cervantes) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:37:52 -0700 Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry In-Reply-To: <001e01c76750$61f306b0$8aed3652@ANNY> References: <8C9353F972A3E01-D70-64DF@webmail-db15.sysops.aol.com> <001e01c76750$61f306b0$8aed3652@ANNY> Message-ID: <648208b60703151737g259895b8y2a6e6392e821acbc@mail.gmail.com> Gad. I completely ignored this due to my misreading: "The abscess is in." for " The abbess is in." A world and pain of difference. - Jim On 3/15/07, Anny Ballardini wrote: > > If I were rich enough to be a benefactor I would also support a Zen > monastery. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jforjames at aol.com > To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:36 PM > Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry > > > http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/arts/story.html?id=d1227742-43f0-448a-98dc-05f22c1bdd25 > > A poetry festival beyond description > > Montreal Zen centre launches event as it looks toward a move from benevolent > landlord Leonard Cohen > PAT DONNELLY, The Gazette > Published: Thursday, March 15, 2007 > > The abbess is in. Her name is Myokyo. She serves green tea and talks of a > newborn literary festival devoted to Zen poetry and her dreams of raising > enough funds to secure a larger, permanent home temple (called Enpuku-ji) > for Rinzai Zen in Montreal. > > For 12 years, the Centre Zen de la Main at 30 Vallieres St. on the Plateau > has been living rent-free, thanks to the generosity of a landlord who also > happens to be a Zen Buddhist - and a poet, not to mention a pop music icon: > Leonard Cohen. > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Salt River Review: http://www.poetserv.org ~ http://www.hamiltonstone.org/catalog.html#temporarymeaning ~ http://www.poetserv.net/jvchome/index.html ~ http://home.earthlink.net/~jvcervantes/ From halvard at earthlink.net Thu Mar 15 20:50:24 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:50:24 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry In-Reply-To: <648208b60703151737g259895b8y2a6e6392e821acbc@mail.gmail.com> References: <8C9353F972A3E01-D70-64DF@webmail-db15.sysops.aol.com> <001e01c76750$61f306b0$8aed3652@ANNY> <648208b60703151737g259895b8y2a6e6392e821acbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <987ED86F-236E-42CD-89D6-D072A56391DD@earthlink.net> Every worse, I misread it as "The Abyssinian is in." Maybe it was an Abysinninian abbess, eh? Hal Flotsam, please, and a side order of jetsam. Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 15, 2007, at 6:37 PM, James Cervantes wrote: > Gad. I completely ignored this due to my misreading: "The abscess is > in." for " The abbess is in." > > A world and pain of difference. > > - Jim > > On 3/15/07, Anny Ballardini wrote: >> >> If I were rich enough to be a benefactor I would also support a Zen >> monastery. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: jforjames at aol.com >> To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:36 PM >> Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry >> >> >> http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/arts/story.html? >> id=d1227742-43f0-448a-98dc-05f22c1bdd25 >> >> A poetry festival beyond description >> >> Montreal Zen centre launches event as it looks toward a move from >> benevolent >> landlord Leonard Cohen >> PAT DONNELLY, The Gazette >> Published: Thursday, March 15, 2007 >> >> The abbess is in. Her name is Myokyo. She serves green tea and >> talks of a >> newborn literary festival devoted to Zen poetry and her dreams of >> raising >> enough funds to secure a larger, permanent home temple (called >> Enpuku-ji) >> for Rinzai Zen in Montreal. >> >> For 12 years, the Centre Zen de la Main at 30 Vallieres St. on the >> Plateau >> has been living rent-free, thanks to the generosity of a landlord >> who also >> happens to be a Zen Buddhist - and a poet, not to mention a pop >> music icon: >> Leonard Cohen. From halvard at earthlink.net Thu Mar 15 21:13:32 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:13:32 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry In-Reply-To: <987ED86F-236E-42CD-89D6-D072A56391DD@earthlink.net> References: <8C9353F972A3E01-D70-64DF@webmail-db15.sysops.aol.com> <001e01c76750$61f306b0$8aed3652@ANNY> <648208b60703151737g259895b8y2a6e6392e821acbc@mail.gmail.com> <987ED86F-236E-42CD-89D6-D072A56391DD@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <98191E93-E849-43B6-A727-ACE0CCE5D1EC@earthlink.net> Or maybe Abbaess. You know, those Swedish chicks. Hal "You are not thinking. You are merely being logical." --Niels Bohr to Albert Einstein Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 15, 2007, at 6:50 PM, Halvard Johnson wrote: > Every worse, I misread it as "The Abyssinian is in." > Maybe it was an Abysinninian abbess, eh? > > Hal > > Flotsam, please, and a side order of jetsam. > > Halvard Johnson > ================ > halvard at gmail.com > halvard at earthlink.net > http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard > http://entropyandme.blogspot.com > http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com > http://www.hamiltonstone.org > > > On Mar 15, 2007, at 6:37 PM, James Cervantes wrote: > >> Gad. I completely ignored this due to my misreading: "The abscess is >> in." for " The abbess is in." >> >> A world and pain of difference. >> >> - Jim >> >> On 3/15/07, Anny Ballardini wrote: >>> >>> If I were rich enough to be a benefactor I would also support a Zen >>> monastery. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: jforjames at aol.com >>> To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:36 PM >>> Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry >>> >>> >>> http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/arts/story.html? >>> id=d1227742-43f0-448a-98dc-05f22c1bdd25 >>> >>> A poetry festival beyond description >>> >>> Montreal Zen centre launches event as it looks toward a move from >>> benevolent >>> landlord Leonard Cohen >>> PAT DONNELLY, The Gazette >>> Published: Thursday, March 15, 2007 >>> >>> The abbess is in. Her name is Myokyo. She serves green tea and >>> talks of a >>> newborn literary festival devoted to Zen poetry and her dreams of >>> raising >>> enough funds to secure a larger, permanent home temple (called >>> Enpuku-ji) >>> for Rinzai Zen in Montreal. >>> >>> For 12 years, the Centre Zen de la Main at 30 Vallieres St. on >>> the Plateau >>> has been living rent-free, thanks to the generosity of a landlord >>> who also >>> happens to be a Zen Buddhist - and a poet, not to mention a pop >>> music icon: >>> Leonard Cohen. > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry From editor at pavementsaw.org Fri Mar 16 14:42:55 2007 From: editor at pavementsaw.org (David Baratier) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [New-Poetry] sells out In-Reply-To: <200703161700.l2GH05t5004356@wiz.cath.vt.edu> Message-ID: <20070316184255.81974.qmail@web83505.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> you all had a similar thread on blurbing just recently, thought someone might have something for me for this ------------ --------- I am working on the forward for the next issue, Pavement Saw 11, the sell out issue, and was wondering if any of you had statements you have used, or that others have said to you, that are terribly blunt about how bad someones poems are. This all stems from a recent conference where I was talking with this lady who tried to confer upon me a copy of a book called _Toxic Feedback_ for gratis, which I only agreed to take if it was inscribed "to the most magnificent editor in the United States ." Anyways, I was very disappointed when I started reading it at home as does not offer usable toxic feedback but rather advocates against the notion. A pity. Please backchannel nasty feedback of literary value, I can mention your name in the forward if it is a good one, or you can be anonymous it is up to you. What I cannot do is give you a free issue as the issues are accounted for and disappear within a year. Be well David Baratier, Editor Pavement Saw Press PO Box 6291 Columbus, OH 43206 http://pavementsaw.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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These elements are crucial to understanding the full story of the creation of a structure of stable relationships that maintained world peace and protected U.S. interests and values. Most of the interviews in the collection come from foreign service officers, but there also are some with political appointees and other officials. While some 1920s-, 1930s-, and World War II-era diplomacy is covered, most of the interviews involve post-World War II diplomacy, from the late 1940s to the 1990s. This collection captures the post-World War II period in vivid terms and intimate detail, documenting the way U.S. diplomacy defended the United States and its interests in a challenging world. The narratives span the major diplomatic crises and issues that faced the United States during the second half of the 20th century and, as new interviews are added, will include developments in the 21st century. The 1,301 transcripts of oral history interviews were donated by the Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training, a private, nonprofit organization. The collection includes extensive personal recollections from luminaries of American 20th century diplomatic history, including Alfred "Roy" Atherton (ambassador to Egypt), Zbigniew Brzezinski (national security adviser under President Carter), Frank Carlucci (ambassador to Portugal under Presidents Nixon and Ford; also served as secretary of defense under President Reagan), Julia Child (spouse of foreign service officer Paul Cushing Child), Lawrence Eagleburger (secretary of state under President George H.W. Bush), Averell Harriman (ambassador to the Soviet Union and England under President Franklin Roosevelt), Jeane Kirkpatrick (ambassador to the United Nations), Winston Lord (played a critical role in opening relations with China under President Nixon), Clare Boothe Luce (ambassador to Italy under President Eisenhower), Douglas MacArthur II (nephew of Gen. Douglas MacArthur and ambassador to Japan, Belgium, Austria and Iran), Charles H. Percy (senator from Illinois), Rozanne Ridgway (ambassador to Finland and East Germany), Dean Rusk (secretary of state under Presidents Kennedy and Johnson), John S. Service (foreign service officer specializing in China before World War II), Cyrus Vance (secretary of state under President Carter) and Marion Post Wolcott (photographer, married to USAID official Lee Wolcott). The full text of the official press release is available at: < http://www.loc.gov/today/pr/2007/07-029.html >. For further information please contact the Library's Manuscript Division: < http://www.loc.gov/rr/askalib/ask-mss2.html >. >>>>> Laura Gottesman Digital Reference Team The Library of Congress < http://www.loc.gov/rr/askalib/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anny.ballardini at tin.it Sat Mar 17 13:31:36 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:31:36 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] call for papers Message-ID: <004701c768ba$1da4e4e0$1dc93a52@ANNY> Conference: "Poets and Theory," organized by the GRAAT, Universit? Fran?ois Rabelais, Tours, January 22-23, 2008 This conference aims to explore the relationship between English-language poets and theory. Many openly address technical matters in the course of their poems-Pope, Bishop, Ferlinghetti, Marechera-, in their letters-Sydney, Keats, Dickinson, Hopkins, Lowell-in theoretical and polemical texts-Coleridge, Whitman, Stevens, Auden, O'Hara Olson, Ashbery, Howe, Taban lo Liyong, Hejinian-when they do not adopt several, if not all, of the above strategies to question their own artistic practices. Those texts often present their authors' programmatic orientations along lines that appear to conform or call into question their own poetic endeavors. What is more, they often present poetry as a choice medium to access the world. The "Poets and Theory" conference will be keen to question those texts penned by poets-poems, translations, manifestoes, prefaces, reviews, essays, books, etc.-that offer up a reasoned critique of their art in relation to their own poems as well as those of their predecessors and their contemporaries. Discussion of the topic might eventually confirm or invalidate Eliot's well-known statement that ? [t]he poetic critic is criticizing poetry in order to create poetry ? (The Sacred Wood, 1922). Paper proposals should be emailed by 30 June, 2007 to ?ric Athenot (eric.athenot at wanadoo.fr) and Guillaume Cingal (guillaume.cingal at univ-tours.fr). -- Marc CHENETIER Universit? Paris 7-Denis Diderot Institut Universitaire de France President, European Association for American Studies 30 rue Pouchet 75017-Paris Tel : +33 (0)1 48 56 15 54 e-mail : chenetier at eaas.eu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hawkbrwn at msn.com Sun Mar 18 09:11:28 2007 From: hawkbrwn at msn.com (Elaine Brown) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:11:28 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry In-Reply-To: <001e01c76750$61f306b0$8aed3652@ANNY> Message-ID: Well, Leonard Cohen had that whole kafafel last year with one of his money managers (I can?t remember which one exactly) and practically lost it all. The person just skipped town with L.C.?s money. Others that had basically made their living from his work came forward and gave money back to him. It?s a nice little monestary, by the way. And Myokyo is a diligent, grounded, dear woman. A friend of mine lived at Centre Zen (or Rinzai Zen, as they call it in the article) for a while so I was able to visit the center and meet Myokyo, though I never did any of the morning or evening sits. Happened to eat breakfast next to Leonard Cohen one morning too. He?s a deep voiced, quiet, nice man, as you?d expect. Though we only talked about restaurants with espresso machines and matching freezers. On 3/15/07 6:22 PM, "Anny Ballardini" wrote: > If I were rich enough to be a benefactor I would also support a Zen monastery. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: jforjames at aol.com >> >> To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> >> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:36 PM >> >> Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry >> >> >> >> http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/arts/story.html?id=d1227742-43f0-4 >> 48a-98dc-05f22c1bdd25 >> >> A poetry festival beyond description >> >> >> >> Montreal Zen centre launches event as it looks toward a move from benevolent >> landlord Leonard Cohen >> PAT DONNELLY, The Gazette >> Published: Thursday, March 15, 2007 >> >> >> >> The abbess is in. Her name is Myokyo. She serves green tea and talks of a >> newborn literary festival devoted to Zen poetry and her dreams of raising >> enough funds to secure a larger, permanent home temple (called Enpuku-ji) for >> Rinzai Zen in Montreal. >> >> >> >> For 12 years, the Centre Zen de la Main at 30 Vallieres St. on the Plateau >> has been living rent-free, thanks to the generosity of a landlord who also >> happens to be a Zen Buddhist - and a poet, not to mention a pop music icon: >> Leonard Cohen. >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anny.ballardini at tin.it Sun Mar 18 09:42:37 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:42:37 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry References: Message-ID: <001f01c76963$4a958460$87df3052@ANNY> Re: [New-Poetry] Zen PoetryLeonard Cohen, I used to listen to him when I was way younger and was surprised to find him back again on the scene a couple of years ago with some good songs. My comment before was meant to show respect towards Zen philosphy, not to disregard the support of a benefactor. From: Elaine Brown Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 2:11 PM Well, Leonard Cohen had that whole kafafel last year with one of his money managers (I can't remember which one exactly) and practically lost it all. The person just skipped town with L.C.'s money. Others that had basically made their living from his work came forward and gave money back to him. It's a nice little monestary, by the way. And Myokyo is a diligent, grounded, dear woman. A friend of mine lived at Centre Zen (or Rinzai Zen, as they call it in the article) for a while so I was able to visit the center and meet Myokyo, though I never did any of the morning or evening sits. Happened to eat breakfast next to Leonard Cohen one morning too. He's a deep voiced, quiet, nice man, as you'd expect. Though we only talked about restaurants with espresso machines and matching freezers. On 3/15/07 6:22 PM, "Anny Ballardini" wrote: If I were rich enough to be a benefactor I would also support a Zen monastery. ----- Original Message ----- From: jforjames at aol.com To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/arts/story.html?id=d1227742-43f0-448a-98dc-05f22c1bdd25 A poetry festival beyond description Montreal Zen centre launches event as it looks toward a move from benevolent landlord Leonard Cohen PAT DONNELLY, The Gazette Published: Thursday, March 15, 2007 The abbess is in. Her name is Myokyo. She serves green tea and talks of a newborn literary festival devoted to Zen poetry and her dreams of raising enough funds to secure a larger, permanent home temple (called Enpuku-ji) for Rinzai Zen in Montreal. For 12 years, the Centre Zen de la Main at 30 Vallieres St. on the Plateau has been living rent-free, thanks to the generosity of a landlord who also happens to be a Zen Buddhist - and a poet, not to mention a pop music icon: Leonard Cohen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halvard at earthlink.net Sun Mar 18 11:03:05 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:03:05 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Or maybe "moneystary"--that look of having dollar signs in the eyes? Hal You Are Not Authorized To View This Page Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 18, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Elaine Brown wrote: > Well, Leonard Cohen had that whole kafafel last year with one of > his money managers (I can?t remember which one exactly) and > practically lost it all. The person just skipped town with L.C.?s > money. Others that had basically made their living from his work > came forward and gave money back to him. > > It?s a nice little monestary, by the way. And Myokyo is a > diligent, grounded, dear woman. A friend of mine lived at Centre > Zen (or Rinzai Zen, as they call it in the article) for a while so > I was able to visit the center and meet Myokyo, though I never did > any of the morning or evening sits. Happened to eat breakfast next > to Leonard Cohen one morning too. He?s a deep voiced, quiet, nice > man, as you?d expect. Though we only talked about restaurants with > espresso machines and matching freezers. > > > On 3/15/07 6:22 PM, "Anny Ballardini" wrote: > >> If I were rich enough to be a benefactor I would also support a >> Zen monastery. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: jforjames at aol.com >>> >>> To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:36 PM >>> >>> Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/arts/story.html? >>> id=d1227742-43f0-448a-98dc-05f22c1bdd25 >>> >>> A poetry festival beyond description >>> >>> >>> >>> Montreal Zen centre launches event as it looks toward a move >>> from benevolent landlord Leonard Cohen >>> PAT DONNELLY, The Gazette >>> Published: Thursday, March 15, 2007 >>> >>> >>> >>> The abbess is in. Her name is Myokyo. She serves green tea and >>> talks of a newborn literary festival devoted to Zen poetry and >>> her dreams of raising enough funds to secure a larger, permanent >>> home temple (called Enpuku-ji) for Rinzai Zen in Montreal. >>> >>> >>> >>> For 12 years, the Centre Zen de la Main at 30 Vallieres St. on >>> the Plateau has been living rent-free, thanks to the generosity >>> of a landlord who also happens to be a Zen Buddhist - and a >>> poet, not to mention a pop music icon: Leonard Cohen. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New-Poetry mailing list >> New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 3/18/07 9:42 AM, "Anny Ballardini" wrote: > Leonard Cohen, I used to listen to him when I was way younger and was > surprised to find him back again on the scene a couple of years ago with some > good songs. > My comment before was meant to show respect towards Zen philosphy, not to > disregard the support of a benefactor. >> >> From: Elaine Brown >> >> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 2:11 PM >> >> >> Well, Leonard Cohen had that whole kafafel last year with one of his money >> managers (I can?t remember which one exactly) and practically lost it all. >> The person just skipped town with L.C.?s money. Others that had basically >> made their living from his work came forward and gave money back to him >> >> It?s a nice little monestary, by the way. And Myokyo is a diligent, >> grounded, dear woman. A friend of mine lived at Centre Zen (or Rinzai Zen, >> as they call it in the article) for a while so I was able to visit the >> center and meet Myokyo, though I never did any of the morning or evening >> sits. Happened to eat breakfast next to Leonard Cohen one morning too. >> He?s a deep voiced, quiet, nice man, as you?d expect. Though we only talked >> about restaurants with espresso machines and matching freezers. >> >> >> On 3/15/07 6:22 PM, "Anny Ballardini" wrote: >> >> >>> If I were rich enough to be a benefactor I would also support a Zen >>> monastery. >>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> From: jforjames at aol.com >>>> >>>> To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >>>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:36 PM >>>> >>>> Subject: [New-Poetry] Zen Poetry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/arts/story.html?id=d1227742-43f0 >>>> -448a-98dc-05f22c1bdd25 >>>> >>>> A poetry festival beyond description >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Montreal Zen centre launches event as it looks toward a move from >>>> benevolent landlord Leonard Cohen >>>> PAT DONNELLY, The Gazette >>>> Published: Thursday, March 15, 2007 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The abbess is in. Her name is Myokyo. She serves green tea and talks of a >>>> newborn literary festival devoted to Zen poetry and her dreams of raising >>>> enough funds to secure a larger, permanent home temple (called Enpuku-ji) >>>> for Rinzai Zen in Montreal. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For 12 years, the Centre Zen de la Main at 30 Vallieres St. on the >>>> Plateau has been living rent-free, thanks to the generosity of a landlord >>>> who also happens to be a Zen Buddhist - and a poet, not to mention a pop >>>> music icon: Leonard Cohen. >>>> > > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Harper & Row. Copyright ? 1977 by Yehuda Amichai. ======================================== David Graham grahamd at ripon.edu Home Page: http://www.ripon.edu/academics/faculty/GrahamD/index.html Poetry Library: http://www.ripon.edu/academics/faculty/GrahamD/poetrylib.html ========================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anny.ballardini at tin.it Sun Mar 18 15:04:28 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:04:28 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Amichai References: <6DF7CE48-381F-4F23-A6B7-1863F1CCFCF3@ripon.edu> Message-ID: <00e001c76990$4135a3f0$87df3052@ANNY> An excellent poem. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Graham To: NewPoetry & Views Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: [New-Poetry] Amichai Letter of Recommendation On summer nights I sleep naked in Jerusalem on my bed, which stands on the brink of a deep valley without rolling down into it. During the day I walk about, the Ten Commandments on my lips like an old song someone is humming to himself. Oh, touch me, touch me, you good woman! This is not a scar you feel under my shirt. It's a letter of recommendation, folded, from my father: "He is still a good boy and full of love." I remember my father waking me up for early prayers. He did it caressing my forehead, not tearing the blanket away. Since then I love him even more. And because of this let him be woken up gently and with love on the Day of Resurrection. --Yehuda Amichai. Amen. Translated from the Hebrew by the author and Ted Hughes. Harper & Row. 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I am therefore sending here the page I just put on the Corner: http://www.fieralingue.it/modules/poemreviews/corner.php?pa=printpage&pid=260 otherwise under Reviews: Carnevali, Emanuel. http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poemreviews Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cervantes.james at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 07:51:58 2007 From: cervantes.james at gmail.com (James Cervantes) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 04:51:58 -0700 Subject: [New-Poetry] Spring, 2007 Salt River Review is online Message-ID: <648208b60703210451s2500f26fnfeceabb8ed395609@mail.gmail.com> The Spring, 2007 issue of The Salt River Review is now online. Poetry by Tony Burfield, Sheila Black, Nathaniel Rounds, Frances Ruhlen McConnel, Margo Solod, David Brendan Hopes, Flavia Cosma, Glenna Luschei, Michael Scott Cain, Katherine Holmes, & Alexis Quinlan. Fiction by Noah McGee, Donna D. Vitucci, Mark McBride, & Tiffany Promise. The Salt River Review: http://www.poetserv.org Please feel free to forward! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Salt River Review: http://www.poetserv.org ~ http://www.hamiltonstone.org/catalog.html#temporarymeaning ~ http://www.poetserv.net/jvchome/index.html ~ http://home.earthlink.net/~jvcervantes/ From jeff.newberry at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 16:50:49 2007 From: jeff.newberry at gmail.com (Jeff Newberry) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:50:49 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Scott Cairns to Read in Athens In-Reply-To: <1174507534874.f6c35cfc-bdbf-483b-9578-3c63eee103b2@google.com> References: <1174507534874.f6c35cfc-bdbf-483b-9578-3c63eee103b2@google.com> Message-ID: <731bb17a0703211350g599a897uab7830657294f3a1@mail.gmail.com> *The Georgia Poetry Circuit* * and **The Georgia Review* * Present: Scott Cairns in Athens* Award-winning poet Scott Cairnswill read from his work at 7:30 p.m. on Tuesday, April 3, at Hot Corner Caf?(Washington and Hull, downtown Athens). Cairns' visit is sponsored by the Georgia Poetry Circuit and by *The Georgia Review*, the circuit's Athens coordinator. Scott Cairns was born in Tacoma, Washington, in 1954. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Utah in 1990. Cairns' spiritual memoir, Short Trip to the Edge , (HarperSanFrancisco) and a collection of adaptations and translations, Love's Immensity: Mystics on the Endless Life (Paraclete Press), will both appear in 2007. Recent poetry collections include Compass of Affection: Poems New and Selected(Paraclete Press, 2006), Philokalia(Zoo Press, 2002), and Recovered Body(Braziller, 1998). Cairns has published poems in such journals as *Poetry*, *Atlantic Monthly*, and *Paris Review*. Cairns received a Guggenheim Fellowship in 2006. He is Directorof the Creative Writing Program at the University of Missouri-Columbia. -- "Memory believes before knowing remembers. 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AGI MISHOL: All day long, all night, yes, I mean... JEFFREY BROWN: On a farm south of Tel Aviv and just about a half-hour north from Gaza, Agi Mishol and her husband grow peaches and pomegranates for export to Europe. As winter neared its end here, peach trees were beginning to blossom. AGI MISHOL: This is a small baby peach. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anny.ballardini at tin.it Thu Mar 22 10:45:04 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:45:04 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Kooser chooses Marge Saiser Message-ID: <004101c76c90$adee1420$f3eb014f@ANNY> Welcome to American Life in Poetry. For information on permissions and usage, or to download a PDF version of the column, visit www.americanlifeinpoetry.org. ****************************** American Life in Poetry: Column 104 BY TED KOOSER, U.S. POET LAUREATE, 2004-2006 Marge Saiser Where They Lived One last time I unlock the house where they lived and fought and tried again: the air of the place, carpet with its unchanging green, chair with its back to me. On the TV set, the Christmas cactus has bloomed, has spilled its pink flowers down its scraggly arms and died, drying into paper. At the round oak table, ghosts lean toward one another, almost a bow, before rising, before ambling away. Reprinted by permission of Marjorie Saiser, whose most recent book of poems is "Lost in Seward County," Backwaters Press, 2001. Copyright (c) 2006 by Marjorie Saiser. This weekly column is supported by The Poetry Foundation, The Library of Congress, and the Department of English at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. 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Just call our warehouse in Chicago at 773-702-7000 and mention code FL-102-07. If you have any questions, please contact at ahunter at uapress.ua.edu or 205-348-1566. Respectfully, Ashley Hunter Advertising/Direct Mail and Exhibits Manager The University of Alabama Press Box 870380 Tuscaloosa, AL 35487 phone:205.348.1566 fax: 205.348.9201 ahunter at uapress.ua.edu www.uapress.ua.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: McGann.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 66591 bytes Desc: not available URL: From grahamd at ripon.edu Fri Mar 23 11:48:14 2007 From: grahamd at ripon.edu (David Graham) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:48:14 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Goldbarthian Message-ID: A month or so ago, before I vanished to deal with a family emergency, there was some chat about Albert Goldbarth and his new & selected volume. I've now gotten my hands on the book, which is winningly titled *The Kitchen Sink* & beautifully produced by Graywolf. Best cover on a poetry book I've seen in ages. It's a big selection, but if any poet deserves 350 pages to showcase his work, it's Goldbarth. As it is, he omits most work before 1983, including just 20 "poems excavated" from his first decade of publishing. Among the small surprises of the book is that he includes quite a long section of short poems. Yes, I said "short"--all one page or shorter. Just to show that he's written them, perhaps; they do tend to get overlooked when surrounded by the 14 page sequences he often publishes. There's also about a book's worth of new poems, so even Goldbarthian fanatics will want this new collection. Here's one of his longer short poems: Vessels (Alexander von Humboldt) In Caracas, Venezuala, in 1800, one can listen to "the latest modern music"??Mozart, Hayden-- over sweetened ice, and Humboldt does, but once the rainy season ends, he's off for the obdurate forests of the Orinoco, and all of their grim amazements: streaming lengths of anaconda, surly crocodiles, and vampire that hover like nightmare hummingbirds over his hammock . . . yes, but the greatest jawgape amazement is surely a human, Se?or del Pozo of Calabozo (a dusty cattle?trading station), who, with no guide bit the treatise on electricity in Benjamin Franklin's Memoirs, "built an electrical apparatus, almost as good as the most advanced design in the laboratories of Europe." Marvels so often select unlikely vessels. Any alive enough soir?e should offer the example of a troll?like shnook on the arm of a luscious hotchahotcha beauty, or the former diner waitress with her petro?sheik amour . . . and then the tsking disbelief of the envious rest of us. But shouldn't we know? When God / His Son / His Virgin Wife decide on a Message of Ultimate Importance for All of Mankind, do They relay this through a group of visited presidents, sultans, queens, and similar potentates? Do comets spell it out, over Rio, Tokyo, mid?Manhattan? You know. One day in a one?burro scatter of ant?swarmed shacks in Mexico, or clutch of huts in the Urals a mute, retarded girl looks tip from the torpor of street dogs to the sky ??and speaks. Site's eloquent now with the Word, and the Way, and the air in her wake is electric. --Albert Goldbarth. *The Kitchen Sink: New & Selected Poems 1972-2007*. Graywolf. [originally in *Combinations of the Universe*. 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Levine's Tupelo Press, founded eight years ago, had been almost universally praised for setting a new standard among independent literary presses and for sponsoring three successful poetry contests: the Snowbound Series Chapbook Award, the Tupelo Press Poetry Contest, and the Dorset Prize, all of which include a cash prize and publication. But, in the opinion of many, the solid reputation the press had established by publishing nearly fifty books by such poets as Ray Gonzalez, Joy Katz, Anna Rabinowitz, Floyd Skloot, and Matthew Zapruder and fiction writers Lewis Buzbee and David Petruzelli, was tarnished late last year by allegations of unfairness stemming from Levine's administration of an open submission period in July 2006 and his subsequent invitation to a number of poets whose work was rejected during that period to submit to the Dorset Prize?where, he said, they would automatically pass through the first round of competition. The controversy that followed prompted Levine to say, "The world is full of a lot of burning effigies of me at the moment." ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halvard at earthlink.net Fri Mar 23 12:55:54 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:55:54 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] What's Up Message-ID: <83015936-3DAC-4003-91D6-4C1DE50076FB@earthlink.net> What?s Up Duddy wakes up from a nap and takes things seriously for a change. Luther?s mad as hell cuz he can?t change Jews into Christ-huggers. Junior?s out chugalugging Gatorade laced with vodka. Mom?s in the kitchen roastin? taters. Uncle Joe?s up on the roof, banging his head on the skylight. The dog?s asleep on the bath- room floor. Auntie Vanessa?s putting on her face again. Wherever we go we is with us. Nobody knows the color of sky. The trouble I?ve seen. Uncle Moses has taken to parting his hair in the middle nowadays. No one to blame but himself. Melanie?s sister?s hung out to dry. It?s the best of times, the worst of times. Tempus fidgets. Hal Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at louisiana.edu Fri Mar 23 14:21:55 2007 From: skip at louisiana.edu (Skip Fox) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:21:55 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] What's Up In-Reply-To: <83015936-3DAC-4003-91D6-4C1DE50076FB@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000c01c76d78$28d3f0f0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> "Temps fidgets." Right! And drives a big black car with no muffler. (Freakin' fast.) Your "world" sounds like the world of Welty's "Why I Live at the P.O.," the Katzenjammer Kids, or Grandma Moses. Good luck to "keeping it up" under such circumstances. (Informational: Down here the "Sky Is Gray," since Ernest Gaines taught her for 25 years. . . . I was wondering, in fact, if he titled that in response to Crane's "The Open Boat," a story of how nothing beyond science can be "known," whereas Gaines seems to say that there are things we can and should know: dignity, equality, human suffering and grace, etc.) -----Original Message----- From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Halvard Johnson Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:56 AM To: & Views New-Poetry Subject: [New-Poetry] What's Up What's Up Duddy wakes up from a nap and takes things seriously for a change. Luther's mad as hell cuz he can't change Jews into Christ-huggers. Junior's out chugalugging Gatorade laced with vodka. Mom's in the kitchen roastin' taters. Uncle Joe's up on the roof, banging his head on the skylight. The dog's asleep on the bath- room floor. Auntie Vanessa's putting on her face again. Wherever we go we is with us. Nobody knows the color of sky. The trouble I've seen. Uncle Moses has taken to parting his hair in the middle nowadays. No one to blame but himself. Melanie's sister's hung out to dry. It's the best of times, the worst of times. Tempus fidgets. Hal Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(Freakin? fast.) > > > Your ?world? sounds like the world of Welty?s ?Why I Live at the > P.O.,? the Katzenjammer Kids, or Grandma Moses. Good luck to > ?keeping it up? under such circumstances. > > > (Informational: Down here the ?Sky Is Gray,? since Ernest Gaines > taught her for 25 years. . . . I was wondering, in fact, if he > titled that in response to Crane?s ?The Open Boat,? a story of how > nothing beyond science can be ?known,? whereas Gaines seems to say > that there are things we can and should know: dignity, equality, > human suffering and grace, etc.) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu [mailto:new-poetry- > bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Halvard Johnson > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:56 AM > To: & Views New-Poetry > Subject: [New-Poetry] What's Up > > > What?s Up > > > Duddy wakes up from a nap and takes things seriously > > for a change. Luther?s mad as hell cuz he can?t change > > Jews into Christ-huggers. Junior?s out chugalugging > > > Gatorade laced with vodka. Mom?s in the kitchen > > roastin? taters. Uncle Joe?s up on the roof, banging > > his head on the skylight. The dog?s asleep on the bath- > > > room floor. Auntie Vanessa?s putting on her face again. > > Wherever we go we is with us. Nobody knows the color > > of sky. The trouble I?ve seen. Uncle Moses has taken > > > to parting his hair in the middle nowadays. No one to > > blame but himself. Melanie?s sister?s hung out to dry. > > It?s the best of times, the worst of times. Tempus fidgets. > > > > > Hal > > > Halvard Johnson > > ================ > > halvard at gmail.com > > halvard at earthlink.net > > http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard > > http://entropyandme.blogspot.com > > http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com > > http://www.hamiltonstone.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jforjames at aol.com Fri Mar 23 16:40:16 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:40:16 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] What's Up In-Reply-To: <83015936-3DAC-4003-91D6-4C1DE50076FB@earthlink.net> References: <83015936-3DAC-4003-91D6-4C1DE50076FB@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8C93BA2995A3F1A-940-ABB2@webmail-md04.sysops.aol.com> Hal, I admire your ability to write so candidly about your family. Finnegan -----Original Message----- From: halvard at earthlink.net To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Sent: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:55 PM Subject: [New-Poetry] What's Up What?s Up Duddy wakes up from a nap and takes things seriously for a change. Luther?s mad as hell cuz he can?t change Jews into Christ-huggers. Junior?s out chugalugging Gatorade laced with vodka. Mom?s in the kitchen roastin? taters. Uncle Joe?s up on the roof, banging his head on the skylight. The dog?s asleep on the bath- room floor. Auntie Vanessa?s putting on her face again. Wherever we go we is with us. Nobody knows the color of sky. The trouble I?ve seen. Uncle Moses has taken to parting his hair in the middle nowadays. No one to blame but himself. Melanie?s sister?s hung out to dry. It?s the best of times, the worst of times. Tempus fidgets. Hal Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org = _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jforjames at aol.com Fri Mar 23 16:58:27 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:58:27 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] she aint messin wth no broke poetz Message-ID: <8C93BA5237A98A0-940-AC6D@webmail-md04.sysops.aol.com> POETRY CAF? WINS $100,000 SMALL BUSINESS COMPETITION On March 13, a group of three poets won the $100,000 Microsoft "Ultimate Challenge" small business competition for their proposal of establishing a poetry caf?. The Mayhem Poets?Mason Granger, Kyle Sutton, and Scott Tarazevits, three friends who met at Rutgers University in New Jersey?entered the contest with an idea for a full-service restaurant that holds daily poetry workshops and nightly poetry performances. The total prize, valued at $224,000, also includes a rent-free New York City storefront for one year and a package of Microsoft software. The group, which has performed at schools, jails and corporate events for four years, defeated five thousand other entrants, including three finalists who entered ideas for an organic beauty bar, a custom wallpaper store, and a fashion rental service. 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Books by both these wonderful authors are currently available through SPD: SO WHAT: NEW & SELECTED POEMS (2006) Taha Muhammad Ali Copper Canyon Press more info: http://www.spdbooks.org/Details.asp?BookID=1556592450 SADDER THAN WATER: SELECTED POEMS (2006) Samih al-Qasim, IBIS Editions more info: http://www.spdbooks.org/Details.asp?BookID=9659012551 NEVER MIND: TWENTY POEMS & A STORY (2000) Taha Muhammad Ali IBIS Editions more info: http://www.spdbooks.org/Details.asp?BookID=9659012527 Sincerely, Brent Cunningham Operations Director Small Press Distribution 1341 Seventh Street Berkeley, CA 94710 510-524-1668 x308 brent at spdbooks.org http://www.spdbooks.org _______________________________________________________________________ Powered by Microsoft Small Business To unsubscribe follow the link: http://lb.bcentral.com/ex/sp?c=11423&s=FB36700E17AC16CB&m=274 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anny.ballardini at tin.it Fri Mar 23 17:03:08 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:03:08 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Goldbarthian References: Message-ID: <005601c76d8e$a8ee1f70$57d63152@ANNY> Drunk with words, he could not be baroquer, I can understand him, I sometimes go through some of these seizures From: David Graham Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:48 PM A month or so ago, before I vanished to deal with a family emergency, there was some chat about Albert Goldbarth and his new & selected volume. I've now gotten my hands on the book, which is winningly titled *The Kitchen Sink* & beautifully produced by Graywolf. Best cover on a poetry book I've seen in ages. It's a big selection, but if any poet deserves 350 pages to showcase his work, it's Goldbarth. As it is, he omits most work before 1983, including just 20 "poems excavated" from his first decade of publishing. Among the small surprises of the book is that he includes quite a long section of short poems. Yes, I said "short"--all one page or shorter. Just to show that he's written them, perhaps; they do tend to get overlooked when surrounded by the 14 page sequences he often publishes. There's also about a book's worth of new poems, so even Goldbarthian fanatics will want this new collection. Here's one of his longer short poems: Vessels (Alexander von Humboldt) In Caracas, Venezuala, in 1800, one can listen to "the latest modern music"??Mozart, Hayden-- over sweetened ice, and Humboldt does, but once the rainy season ends, he's off for the obdurate forests of the Orinoco, and all of their grim amazements: streaming lengths of anaconda, surly crocodiles, and vampire that hover like nightmare hummingbirds over his hammock . . . yes, but the greatest jawgape amazement is surely a human, Se?or del Pozo of Calabozo (a dusty cattle?trading station), who, with no guide bit the treatise on electricity in Benjamin Franklin's Memoirs, "built an electrical apparatus, almost as good as the most advanced design in the laboratories of Europe." Marvels so often select unlikely vessels. Any alive enough soir?e should offer the example of a troll?like shnook on the arm of a luscious hotchahotcha beauty, or the former diner waitress with her petro?sheik amour . . . and then the tsking disbelief of the envious rest of us. But shouldn't we know? When God / His Son / His Virgin Wife decide on a Message of Ultimate Importance for All of Mankind, do They relay this through a group of visited presidents, sultans, queens, and similar potentates? Do comets spell it out, over Rio, Tokyo, mid?Manhattan? You know. One day in a one?burro scatter of ant?swarmed shacks in Mexico, or clutch of huts in the Urals a mute, retarded girl looks tip from the torpor of street dogs to the sky ??and speaks. Site's eloquent now with the Word, and the Way, and the air in her wake is electric. --Albert Goldbarth. *The Kitchen Sink: New & Selected Poems 1972-2007*. Graywolf. [originally in *Combinations of the Universe*. Ohio State UP, 2003.] ======================================== David Graham grahamd at ripon.edu Home Page: http://www.ripon.edu/academics/faculty/GrahamD/index.html Poetry Library: http://www.ripon.edu/academics/faculty/GrahamD/poetrylib.html ========================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anny.ballardini at tin.it Fri Mar 23 17:06:35 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:06:35 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] What's Up References: <83015936-3DAC-4003-91D6-4C1DE50076FB@earthlink.net> <8C93BA2995A3F1A-940-ABB2@webmail-md04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <007401c76d8f$24227f60$57d63152@ANNY> you mean Finnegan he is Duddy? From: jforjames at aol.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:40 PM Hal, I admire your ability to write so candidly about your family. Finnegan -----Original Message----- From: halvard at earthlink.net To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Sent: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:55 PM Subject: [New-Poetry] What's Up What?s Up Duddy wakes up from a nap and takes things seriously for a change. Luther?s mad as hell cuz he can?t change Jews into Christ-huggers. Junior?s out chugalugging Gatorade laced with vodka. Mom?s in the kitchen roastin? taters. Uncle Joe?s up on the roof, banging his head on the skylight. The dog?s asleep on the bath- room floor. Auntie Vanessa?s putting on her face again. Wherever we go we is with us. Nobody knows the color of sky. The trouble I?ve seen. Uncle Moses has taken to parting his hair in the middle nowadays. No one to blame but himself. Melanie?s sister?s hung out to dry. It?s the best of times, the worst of times. Tempus fidgets. Hal Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halvard at earthlink.net Fri Mar 23 17:24:04 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:24:04 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] What's Up In-Reply-To: <8C93BA2995A3F1A-940-ABB2@webmail-md04.sysops.aol.com> References: <83015936-3DAC-4003-91D6-4C1DE50076FB@earthlink.net> <8C93BA2995A3F1A-940-ABB2@webmail-md04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Nuthin' to hide around here, Finnegan. What's your story? Hal "[News is] what somebody doesn't want you to know. All the rest is advertising." --Dan Rather Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 23, 2007, at 2:40 PM, jforjames at aol.com wrote: > Hal, I admire your ability to write so candidly about your family. > Finnegan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: halvard at earthlink.net > To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > Sent: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:55 PM > Subject: [New-Poetry] What's Up > > What?s Up > > Duddy wakes up from a nap and takes things seriously > for a change. Luther?s mad as hell cuz he can?t change > Jews into Christ-huggers. Junior?s out chugalugging > > Gatorade laced with vodka. Mom?s in the kitchen > roastin? taters. Uncle Joe?s up on the roof, banging > his head on the skylight. The dog?s asleep on the bath- > > room floor. Auntie Vanessa?s putting on her face again. > Wherever we go we is with us. Nobody knows the color > of sky. The trouble I?ve seen. Uncle Moses has taken > > to parting his hair in the middle nowadays. No one to > blame but himself. Melanie?s sister?s hung out to dry. > It?s the best of times, the worst of times. Tempus fidgets. > > > > Hal > > Halvard Johnson > ================ > halvard at gmail.com > halvard at earthlink.net > http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard > http://entropyandme.blogspot.com > http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com > http://www.hamiltonstone.org > > > = > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's > free from AOL at AOL.com. > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Opus40-01 at opus40.org Fri Mar 23 17:52:42 2007 From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:52:42 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] What's Up In-Reply-To: References: <000c01c76d78$28d3f0f0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> Message-ID: <46044C2A.5010408@opus40.org> "The High and the Mighty," right? or "Jane Pittman"? I think "The High and the Mighty" was Ernest Gann. Halvard Johnson wrote: > Ernest Gaines, hmm. I thought for a minute I'd read one > of his novels back in the days when I was reading books, > but then I Wikied his name and found no (unless my > memory gone off to . . . oh, I forget where. > > Temps always fidget, of course. They never know where > their next job is coming from. > > Hal > > Jay Billington Bulworth for President > > Halvard Johnson > ================ > halvard at gmail.com > halvard at earthlink.net > http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard > http://entropyandme.blogspot.com > http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com > http://www.hamiltonstone.org > > > > > > On Mar 23, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Skip Fox wrote: > >> ?Temps fidgets.? Right! And drives a big black car with no muffler. >> (Freakin? fast.) >> >> >> >> Your ?world? sounds like the world of Welty?s ?Why I Live at the >> P.O.,? the Katzenjammer Kids, or Grandma Moses. Good luck to ?keeping >> it up? under such circumstances. >> >> >> >> (Informational: Down here the ?Sky Is Gray,? since Ernest Gaines >> taught her for 25 years. . . . I was wondering, in fact, if he titled >> that in response to Crane?s ?The Open Boat,? a story of how nothing >> beyond science can be ?known,? whereas Gaines seems to say that there >> are things we can and should know: dignity, equality, human suffering >> and grace, etc.) >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> [mailto:new-poetry-bounces at wiz.cath.vt.edu] *On Behalf Of *Halvard >> Johnson >> *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2007 11:56 AM >> *To:* & Views New-Poetry >> *Subject:* [New-Poetry] What's Up >> >> >> >> What?s Up >> >> >> >> Duddy wakes up from a nap and takes things seriously >> >> for a change. Luther?s mad as hell cuz he can?t change >> >> Jews into Christ-huggers. Junior?s out chugalugging >> >> >> >> Gatorade laced with vodka. Mom?s in the kitchen >> >> roastin? taters. Uncle Joe?s up on the roof, banging >> >> his head on the skylight. The dog?s asleep on the bath- >> >> >> >> room floor. Auntie Vanessa?s putting on her face again. >> >> Wherever we go we is with us. Nobody knows the color >> >> of sky. The trouble I?ve seen. Uncle Moses has taken >> >> >> >> to parting his hair in the middle nowadays. No one to >> >> blame but himself. Melanie?s sister?s hung out to dry. >> >> It?s the best of times, the worst of times. Tempus fidgets. >> >> >> >> >> >> Hal >> >> >> >> Halvard Johnson >> >> ================ >> >> halvard at gmail.com >> >> halvard at earthlink.net >> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard >> >> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com >> >> http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com >> >> >> http://www.hamiltonstone.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New-Poetry mailing list >> New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > From bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Sat Mar 24 13:02:38 2007 From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net (Bob Grumman) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:02:38 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] An Innocuous Taxonomy of Poetry References: <000c01c76d78$28d3f0f0$f4954682@win.louisiana.edu> 46044C2A.5010408@opus40.org Message-ID: <004e01c76e36$3c010e60$49fad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> Every once in a while I work up a classification of poems based on size. I just posted one to my blog. Here it is: 24 March 2007: I haven't been able to find any of my writings on the classification of poems by size, but I gave the matter thought last night in bed. Result: I think I taken care of the problem permanently! My breakthrough was coming up with simple, appropriate terminology, to wit: book-length poem, chapter-length poem, page-length poem, half-pagepoem, quarter-page poem and minimalist poem. The approximate size of each kind of poem should be clear, but to pin it down a book-length poem would be the length of any normal or semi-normal book--that is, from 24 to a zillion pages long. A chapter-length poem would be more than a page long but less than 24 pages long. As for a page-length poem, I had in mind a standard book-page, which is about six inches by nine inchs. Half that for the half-page poem, and a quarter of it for the quarter-page poem. I'm assuming the kind of page I have in mind would hold around forty lines of conventional solitextual (solely textual) poems. A half-page solitextual poem by that reasoning would be twenty lines or less in length, but I break logic with my definition, making such poems sixteen lines or less in length. The standard example would be the fourteen-line sonnet. In other words, for me, a half-page poem is more or less the size of a sonnet. A quarter-page poem is eight lines of the equivalent, or less, in length. Each of these kinds of poems has a bottom linit, too: a page-length poem is over sixteen lines or the queivalent in length, a half-page poem over eight lines or the equivalent in length, a quarter-page poem over . . . twenty-five *syllables*, or the equivalent, in length--because a minimalist poem is any poem twenty-five syllables or less in length. Such as a haiku. Because of the importance of minimalist poems to me, I split the minimalist poem category into three parts: maximinimalist poems, microminimalist poems and nanominimalist poems. The first are more than three words (which total less than ten syllables) in length, the second three words (which total lsee than ten syllables), but more than a single word (of no more than three syllables) in length. At this point, the sizes I've given for the three minimalist poem divisions are extremefully tentative--pure guesses as to what would be most appropriate--although the smallest division is probably set. Strictly speaking, a haiku could only be in the maximinimalist category. Those not interested in small poems may question the value of my three divisions--if not the value of my entire scheme. But I think exciting things are going on, in quantity, in all minimalist poetry divisions. In any case, if my extra three classifications are cumbersome, there's no need to use them: the term, "minimalist poem," covers any poem in any of them. Comments welcome. --Bob G. From parkekadian at yahoo.com Sat Mar 24 12:22:01 2007 From: parkekadian at yahoo.com (kadian parke) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [New-Poetry] An Innocuous Taxonomy of Poetry Message-ID: <338818.5404.qm@web63202.mail.re1.yahoo.com> i have been having the same problems too, maybe you are right, i got so frustrated i stopped writing for a while. ----- Original Message ---- From: Bob Grumman To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:02:38 PM Subject: [New-Poetry] An Innocuous Taxonomy of Poetry Every once in a while I work up a classification of poems based on size. I just posted one to my blog. Here it is: 24 March 2007: I haven't been able to find any of my writings on the classification of poems by size, but I gave the matter thought last night in bed. Result: I think I taken care of the problem permanently! My breakthrough was coming up with simple, appropriate terminology, to wit: book-length poem, chapter-length poem, page-length poem, half-pagepoem, quarter-page poem and minimalist poem. The approximate size of each kind of poem should be clear, but to pin it down a book-length poem would be the length of any normal or semi-normal book--that is, from 24 to a zillion pages long. A chapter-length poem would be more than a page long but less than 24 pages long. As for a page-length poem, I had in mind a standard book-page, which is about six inches by nine inchs. Half that for the half-page poem, and a quarter of it for the quarter-page poem. I'm assuming the kind of page I have in mind would hold around forty lines of conventional solitextual (solely textual) poems. A half-page solitextual poem by that reasoning would be twenty lines or less in length, but I break logic with my definition, making such poems sixteen lines or less in length. The standard example would be the fourteen-line sonnet. In other words, for me, a half-page poem is more or less the size of a sonnet. A quarter-page poem is eight lines of the equivalent, or less, in length. Each of these kinds of poems has a bottom linit, too: a page-length poem is over sixteen lines or the queivalent in length, a half-page poem over eight lines or the equivalent in length, a quarter-page poem over . . . twenty-five *syllables*, or the equivalent, in length--because a minimalist poem is any poem twenty-five syllables or less in length. Such as a haiku. Because of the importance of minimalist poems to me, I split the minimalist poem category into three parts: maximinimalist poems, microminimalist poems and nanominimalist poems. The first are more than three words (which total less than ten syllables) in length, the second three words (which total lsee than ten syllables), but more than a single word (of no more than three syllables) in length. At this point, the sizes I've given for the three minimalist poem divisions are extremefully tentative--pure guesses as to what would be most appropriate--although the smallest division is probably set. Strictly speaking, a haiku could only be in the maximinimalist category. Those not interested in small poems may question the value of my three divisions--if not the value of my entire scheme. But I think exciting things are going on, in quantity, in all minimalist poetry divisions. In any case, if my extra three classifications are cumbersome, there's no need to use them: the term, "minimalist poem," covers any poem in any of them. Comments welcome. --Bob G. _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Opus40-01 at opus40.org Sat Mar 24 13:33:42 2007 From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:33:42 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Dorset Prize Dustup In-Reply-To: <8C93B8232DC22C9-11E0-874B@WEBMAIL-DF16.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C93B8232DC22C9-11E0-874B@WEBMAIL-DF16.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <460560F6.2000803@opus40.org> I'm not sure I completely follow this. I do like Levine's response. jforjames at aol.com wrote: > http://www.pw.org/mag/0703/newslarimer.htmnew > > > Jeffrey Levine's Dorset Prize Dustup > By Kevin Larimer > > Jeffrey Levine > ILLUSTRATION BY NATHAN KISSEL > > > Up until last fall, the closest Jeffrey Levine had come to a > controversial contest was when he agreed to publish Priscilla Sneff's > poetry collection, O Woolly City, the 2004 winner of the Kenyon Review > Prize (the book had been orphaned when Neil Azevedo's Zoo Press ceased > operations early last year). Levine's Tupelo Press, founded eight > years ago, had been almost universally praised for setting a new > standard among independent literary presses and for sponsoring three > successful poetry contests: the Snowbound Series Chapbook Award, the > Tupelo Press Poetry Contest, and the Dorset Prize, all of which > include a cash prize and publication. > But, in the opinion of many, the solid reputation the press had > established by publishing nearly fifty books by such poets as Ray > Gonzalez, Joy Katz, Anna Rabinowitz, Floyd Skloot, and Matthew > Zapruder and fiction writers Lewis Buzbee and David Petruzelli, was > tarnished late last year by allegations of unfairness stemming from > Levine's administration of an open submission period in July 2006 and > his subsequent invitation to a number of poets whose work was rejected > during that period to submit to the Dorset Prize?where, he said, they > would automatically pass through the first round of competition. > The controversy that followed prompted Levine to say, "The world is > full of a lot of burning effigies of me at the moment." > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at *AOL.com* > . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > From JforJames at aol.com Sat Mar 24 15:03:23 2007 From: JforJames at aol.com (JforJames at aol.com) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:03:23 EDT Subject: [New-Poetry] Dorset Prize Dustup Message-ID: In a message dated 3/24/2007 1:34:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Opus40-01 at opus40.org writes: I'm not sure I completely follow this. I do like Levine's response. Tad, I think the intensity of the scrutiny and criticism speaks to feeding frenzy that these book prize contest have spawned. That and the fallout from Foetry.com and its outing of various "inside jobs" that have gone on and continue to subvert the 'blind' ("No peeking now!, I mean it.") judging of these contests. Contemporary poetry has fomented a mess of presses offering the Famous Dead Poet Poetry Prize and University Press Poetry Prize and the Who's That First Book Award, and now we poets happily like lemmings follow these Pied Pipers as we haplessly crest over the cliff's edge into an anonymous abyss waving a $20 entry fee check like a broken wing Finnegan ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Opus40-01 at opus40.org Sat Mar 24 16:01:13 2007 From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:01:13 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Dorset Prize Dustup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46058389.2080206@opus40.org> James -- I love that. Great image. JforJames at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/24/2007 1:34:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Opus40-01 at opus40.org writes: > > I'm not sure I completely follow this. I do like Levine's response. > > Tad, I think the intensity of the scrutiny and criticism speaks to > feeding frenzy that these book prize contest > have spawned. That and the fallout from Foetry.com and its outing of > various "inside jobs" that have gone on and continue to > subvert the 'blind' ("No peeking now!, I mean it.") judging of these > contests. Contemporary poetry has fomented a mess of presses offering > the Famous Dead Poet Poetry Prize and University Press Poetry Prize > and the Who's That First Book Award, and now we poets happily like > lemmings follow these Pied Pipers as we haplessly crest over the > cliff's edge into an anonymous abyss waving a $20 entry fee check like > a broken wing > > Finnegan > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at *AOL.com* . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- Tad Richards http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ From anny.ballardini at tin.it Sat Mar 24 17:26:17 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:26:17 +0100 Subject: [New-Poetry] Dorset Prize Dustup References: <46058389.2080206@opus40.org> Message-ID: <003201c76e5b$0ef428b0$e6af3452@ANNY> Since I can't every time praise James, I will second Tad, From: "TheOldMole" Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:01 PM > James -- I love that. Great image. > > JforJames at aol.com wrote: >> In a message dated 3/24/2007 1:34:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> Opus40-01 at opus40.org writes: >> >> I'm not sure I completely follow this. I do like Levine's response. >> >> Tad, I think the intensity of the scrutiny and criticism speaks to >> feeding frenzy that these book prize contest >> have spawned. That and the fallout from Foetry.com and its outing of >> various "inside jobs" that have gone on and continue to >> subvert the 'blind' ("No peeking now!, I mean it.") judging of these >> contests. Contemporary poetry has fomented a mess of presses offering >> the Famous Dead Poet Poetry Prize and University Press Poetry Prize >> and the Who's That First Book Award, and now we poets happily like >> lemmings follow these Pied Pipers as we haplessly crest over the >> cliff's edge into an anonymous abyss waving a $20 entry fee check like >> a broken wing >> >> Finnegan >> >> >> > -- > Tad Richards > http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ > http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ From jforjames at aol.com Sat Mar 24 22:18:49 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:18:49 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Marching orders for the Sonnet Message-ID: <8C93C9B0F41D0CA-284-4395@MBLK-R05.sysops.aol.com> http://www.cortlandreview.com/features/06/december/barnstone_e.html Manifesto On The Contemporary Sonnet: A Personal Aesthetics PRINCIPLE I: MAKE THE SONNET NEW To quote Ezra Pound, the poet must "Make it new." William Carlos Williams took Pound's dictum to mean that poets must be relentless avant-gardists, the shock troops of the new. Thus, for Williams, "all sonnets say the same thing of no importance. What does it matter what the line 'says'? There is no poetry of distinction without formal invention, for it is in the intimate form that works of art achieve their exact meaning. . . ." Williams was so focused on inventing new (i.e., free verse) forms that a fixed form such as the sonnet was to him mere repetition, the stamping out of the same product again and again by a factory press. The form for Williams is the content. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Opus40-01 at opus40.org Sat Mar 24 22:27:02 2007 From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:27:02 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Marching orders for the Sonnet In-Reply-To: <8C93C9B0F41D0CA-284-4395@MBLK-R05.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C93C9B0F41D0CA-284-4395@MBLK-R05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4605DDF6.2080604@opus40.org> When Denise Levertov visited the Iowa Workshop during my long-ago days there, I remember that she really bristled when Paul Engle asked her if she would ever write a sonnet. I remember being surprised by the vehemence of her response. I guess in those days free verse was closely guarded turf. jforjames at aol.com wrote: > http://www.cortlandreview.com/features/06/december/barnstone_e.html > > Manifesto On The Contemporary Sonnet: A Personal Aesthetics > PRINCIPLE I: MAKE THE SONNET NEW > > To quote Ezra Pound, the poet must "Make it new." William Carlos > Williams took Pound's dictum to mean that poets must be relentless > avant-gardists, the shock troops of the new. Thus, for Williams, "all > sonnets say the same thing of no importance. What does it matter what > the line 'says'? There is no poetry of distinction without formal > invention, for it is in the intimate form that works of art achieve > their exact meaning. . . ." Williams was so focused on inventing new > (i.e., free verse) forms that a fixed form such as the sonnet was to > him mere repetition, the stamping out of the same product again and > again by a factory press. The form for Williams is the content. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at *AOL.com* > . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- Tad Richards http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ From SLIDINGSCA at aol.com Sun Mar 25 02:15:21 2007 From: SLIDINGSCA at aol.com (SLIDINGSCA at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:15:21 EDT Subject: [New-Poetry]The Course of Grief Message-ID: . The Course of Grief This sorrow trips your steps like stones on a path, always loosening, always sliding, preventing a climb. You will not emerge from her stone chamber. You, if you could, would not forget her subterranean voice. Her bright call will never return and her eyes will not Open in their sockets. Alone with her gemstones you cry, Tanzanite, iolite, for fingers now ash, for an urn turned and emptied in the sea (you asked it, too). Show me your tear-scarred eyes, show me your face Say to me: I was robbed, the best was taken Because one thing was missing, because the time took too long, was too short. Was I was crucified Because someone was dull or for no reason at all, because some fate failed did I lose my child? Say keening, silence, these hands for tears; I too know the stone?s voice and the chasm of these years. Larissa Shmailo ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hal Art & Plastic Surgery Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 25, 2007, at 2:33 PM, Anny Ballardini wrote: > Composition on beauty by a 15 year-old girl, here is the last > sentence: > > What will we do when we are 80-90 years old and in our life we have > only thought of beauty? > > > Anny Ballardini > http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ > http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome > http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html > I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a > dancing star! > Friedrich Nietzsche > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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THE COUNTDOWN Episode 21, produced by Josh Hinck for MiPoRadio, highlights the poetry of Alan Sondheim, and also stars these fine poets and bloggers: - Tiel Aisha Ansari - Amy Bernier - Ana Bozicevic-Bowling - Glenn Cooper - Alexander Dickow - Brent Goodman - Donald Illich - Edward Nudelman - Tammy Trendle - Letitia Trent Always looking for a good blog to slog through. Comments and conversay appreciated, front or backchannel. Thanks for tuning in to MiPoRadio where poetry tunes in, and special thanks to all the fine poets who recorded work for this one! -- Bob Marcacci It is bad luck to be superstitious. - Andrew Mathis From anny.ballardini at tin.it Mon Mar 26 08:54:40 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:54:40 +0200 Subject: [New-Poetry] classical music Message-ID: <00a301c76fa5$ebbbd130$b1aa3252@ANNY> For those who like classical music here is a page that lists several radio stations: http://classicalwebcast.com/usa.htm Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amyhappens at yahoo.com Mon Mar 26 10:27:32 2007 From: amyhappens at yahoo.com (amy king) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [New-Poetry] This Friday -- Stackhouse, Fieled, & Henriksen In-Reply-To: <00a301c76fa5$ebbbd130$b1aa3252@ANNY> Message-ID: <59928.31537.qm@web83306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MiPOesias presents ~~ CHRISTOPHER STACKHOUSE, ADAM FIELED, and MATT HENRIKSEN ~~ Stain Bar, Brooklyn, NYC March 30, 2007 @ 7:00 p.m. ~~~~~~~~ Christopher Stackhouse's books are: Slip (Corollary Press, 2005), a collection of poems; Seismosis (1913 Press, 2006), a book featuring his drawings with text by writer/professor John Keene. He is a graduate fellow of Cave Canem, and a 2005 Fellow in Poetry from the New York Foundation for The Arts. A poetry editor at FENCE Magazine, he lives and works in Brooklyn, New York. http://www.mipoesias.com/EVIESHOCKLEYISSUE/stackhouse_c.html Adam Fieled is a poet, musician, and critic. His chapbook "Posit" is forthcoming from Dusie Press. He has released four albums, including two spoken word collections, "Raw Rainy Fog" (Radio Eris Records, 2002) and "Virtual Pinball/Madame Psychosis" (WSG Productions, 2006), and edits the blog-journal P.F.S. Post and the blog Stoning the Devil. He has work in Jacket, Rain Taxi, Blazexox, Dusie, Eratio, Nth Position, Cordite, Otoliths, Mipoesias, Cake Train, Words Dance, Word For/Word and Many Mountains Moving. A magna cum laude graduate of the University of Pennsylvania, he also holds an MFA in poetry from New England College and is a PhD candidate at Temple University in Philly. http://www.mipoesias.com/Poetry/fieled_palm.html Matthew Henriksen co-edits Typo and Cannibal and curates The Burning Chair Readings in Brooklyn. Recent poems appear in Absent, Agricultural Reader, and Wildlife. His chapbook, Is Holy, has recently emerged from horse less press. http://www.mipoesias.com/2007/henriksen_matt.htm ~~~~~~~~ STAIN BAR 766 Grand Street Brooklyn, NY 11211 (L train to Grand Street Stop, walk 1 block west) 718/387-7840 http://www.stainbar.com/ ~~~~~~~~ Hope you'll stop by! Amy King MiPO Host http://www.mipoesias.com ~~~~~~~~ --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jforjames at aol.com Mon Mar 26 16:27:11 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:27:11 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry Message-ID: <8C93DFC44684B9F-1698-2530@FWM-M33.sysops.aol.com> Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry, by G. Singh, U. of Kentucky Press 1964 I recently ran across this book and I've been enjoying it quite a bit. G. Singh writes lucid and insightful prose. He quotes (in translation) much of Leopardi's views on poetry and poetics. The book has chapters on Romantic Movement v. Classical Poetry, The Poetic Image, Poetry and Melacholy, Poetry and Myth, etc. Much of the Leopardi material comes from his _Zibaldone_ (hodge-podge), which were the notebooks he kept of his thoughts on various subjects, primarily related to art, poetry and human nature. Leopardi's views of human nature are very dark and hard for me to align myself with...but much of what Leopardi says about art and poetry is useful and still relevant. I'll gather some quotes from the book in next few days and post them. Singh also quotes many poets and critics, from various ages, to compare and contrast to the ideas and remarks of Leopardi. For those, like Anny, who are fluent in Italian, all the Leopardi quotes from the book are in notes in the original Italian. I'm sure this book is not in print. But I found a couple of cheap copies on the web. I often have a notion to give away a copy of book I love. But not my only copy, so when I find a extra one at a good price I pick it up. Finnegan ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jforjames at aol.com Mon Mar 26 16:57:14 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:57:14 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Eyes of the Poet Radio Message-ID: <8C93E00773CAF43-1698-2708@FWM-M33.sysops.aol.com> http://www.pr.com/press-release/33880 Eyes of the Poet Radio Celebrates National Poetry Month and Takes New Poetry Submissions In celebration of National Poetry Month in the Untied States, Eyes Of The Poet Radio will play "blocks" of poetry during the month of April and will accept most new audio poetry submissions. Denver, CO, March 26, 2007 --(PR.COM)-- In celebration of National Poetry Month in the Untied States, Eyes Of The Poet Radio will play "blocks" of poetry during the month of April. Eyes Of The Poet Radio is an internet-based radio station that plays Ambient, World, and New Age music along with interviews, insight, and of course poetry. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anny.ballardini at tin.it Mon Mar 26 17:21:22 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:21:22 +0200 Subject: [New-Poetry] Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry References: <8C93DFC44684B9F-1698-2530@FWM-M33.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <005101c76fec$b426b8b0$0ea83252@ANNY> :-) you mean you wish to send me a free copy? We had to study Leopardi at school, and my mother made me learn by heart some poems when I was very small. I agree with you on Leopardi, there are some very interesting intuitions, even if his general outlook on life is pessimistic. Believe it or not but I understood Leonardo's Italian in English with a big (double) book they had on sale in the States with the original and the English translation. Sometimes translations are wonders. From: jforjames at aol.com Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:27 PM Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry, by G. Singh, U. of Kentucky Press 1964 I recently ran across this book and I've been enjoying it quite a bit. G. Singh writes lucid and insightful prose. He quotes (in translation) much of Leopardi's views on poetry and poetics. The book has chapters on Romantic Movement v. Classical Poetry, The Poetic Image, Poetry and Melacholy, Poetry and Myth, etc. Much of the Leopardi material comes from his _Zibaldone_ (hodge-podge), which were the notebooks he kept of his thoughts on various subjects, primarily related to art, poetry and human nature. Leopardi's views of human nature are very dark and hard for me to align myself with...but much of what Leopardi says about art and poetry is useful and still relevant. I'll gather some quotes from the book in next few days and post them. Singh also quotes many poets and critics, from various ages, to compare and contrast to the ideas and remarks of Leopardi. For those, like Anny, who are fluent in Italian, all the Leopardi quotes from the book are in notes in the original Italian. I'm sure this book is not in print. But I found a couple of cheap copies on the web. I often have a notion to give away a copy of book I love. But not my only copy, so when I find a extra one at a good price I pick it up. Finnegan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grahamd at ripon.edu Mon Mar 26 20:33:47 2007 From: grahamd at ripon.edu (David Graham) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:33:47 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Frosting Message-ID: <13E49433-FAC9-41DA-B05F-642DB3F8F019@ripon.edu> Yes, it's Robert Frost's birthday. What's it like on the Other Side, Robert? Much, or little? The Strong Are Saying Nothing The soil now gets a rumpling soft and damp, And small regard to the future of any weed. The final flat of the hoe's approval stamp Is reserved for the bed of a few selected seed. There is seldom more than a man to a harrowed piece. Men work alone, their lots plowed far apart, One stringing a chain of seed in an open crease, And another stumbling after a halting cart. To the fresh and black of the squares of early mold The leafless bloom of a plum is fresh and white; Though there's more than a doubt if the weather is not too cold For the bees to come and serve its beauty aright. Wind goes from farm to farm in wave on wave, But carries no cry of what is hoped to be. There may be little or much beyond the grave, But the strong are saying nothing until they see. --Robert Frost ======================================== David Graham grahamd at ripon.edu Home Page: http://www.ripon.edu/academics/faculty/GrahamD/index.html Poetry Library: http://www.ripon.edu/academics/faculty/GrahamD/poetrylib.html ========================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Edward.Byrne at valpo.edu Wed Mar 28 19:40:40 2007 From: Edward.Byrne at valpo.edu (Edward Byrne) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:40:40 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Valparaiso Poetry Review: New Issue Message-ID: <1175125240-26467.00038.00245-smmsdV2.1.6@mailhub.valpo.edu> ANNOUNCEMENT: NEW ISSUE http://www.valpo.edu/english/vpr/ The Spring/Summer 2007 issue (Vol. VIII, No. 2) of Valparaiso Poetry Review has been released. Contents include the following. Featured Poet: Diane Lockward Additional Poets: Jon Ballard, Michelle Bitting, Chris Bullard, Michael Diebert, Daniel Donaghy, George Eklund, Clifford Paul Fetters, Anne Haines, Paul Hostovsky, Jen Karetnick, Jessica de Koninck, Sara Lamers, Robert Lietz, Judith Montgomery, Kevin Rabas, Lee Rossi, Rita Signorelli-Pappas, Martha Silano, Dwayne Thorpe, Constance Vogel, Lynn Wagner, Rosemary Winslow, Valerie Wohlfeld Interview: Sondra Gash interviews Diane Lockward Essay: "On the Newer Bees in Darwin's Garden," Joseph Powell Poets Reviewed: Linda Bierds, Jared Carter, Jim Ferris, Mary Karr, Kathryn Levy, Diane Lockward, Ingrid Wendt Cover Art Commentary: Gregg Hertzlieb on Hazel Hannell -------------------------------------------------- Edward Byrne Department of English 322 Huegli Hall Valparaiso University Valparaiso, IN 46383-6493 E-mail: edward.byrne at valpo.edu Home Page: http://www.valpo.edu/home/faculty/ebyrne/homepage/ Blog: http://edwardbyrne.blogspot.com/ Editor, Valparaiso Poetry Review E-mail: vpr at valpo.edu VPR Web Page: http://www.valpo.edu/english/vpr/ Office Phone: (219) 464-5278 Fax: (219) 464-5511 -------------------------------------------------- From jforjames at aol.com Wed Mar 28 21:54:21 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:54:21 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library Message-ID: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> A while back we had a thread that started under the caption "Books a Poet Should Own" and evolved into the "Poet's Ideal Library." Margery Snyde ( http://poetry.about.com/ ) reminded me that I promised to compile a book list from the various posts. I did that. Edited it somewhat, deleting those titles that seemed too far afield. And I added a good number titles, concentrating on Essays (poetry/art/aesthetics), Literary Criticism/Theory, Practical Texts & Guidebooks (but not of an introductory nature) and a few other odd titles. I decided not include Anthologies unless the introductory/thesis esssay was as important as the poems collected in support of the thesis. Similarly I neglected reference books that were not directly related to poetry. Sorted alpha by author/editor, this list continues to be open to suggestions/corrections and an impossible work in progress.... A Glossary of Literary Terms, M.H.Abrams, Literary Reference, Holt Rinehart Winston 1988 Selected Writing of Guillaume Apollinaire, Guillaume Apollinaire (R. Shattuck, trans.), Poetry Essays, New Directions 1971 The Poetics, Aristotle, Poetry Essays, Various Editions Essays Literary & Critical by Matthew Arnold, Matthew Arnold, Poetry Essays, JM Dent & Son 1906 Poetic Rhythm: An Introduction, Derek Attridge, Formalism, Metrics, Cambridge U. Press 1996 The Dyer's Hand, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 Forewords & Afterwords, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, Erich Auerbach, Literary Criticism, Doubleday Anchor Books 1957 The Poetics of Reverie, Gaston Bachelard, Philosophy/Aesthetics, Beacon Press 1971 The Poetics of Space, Gaston Bachelard (Maria Jolas, trans.), Philosophy/Aesthetics ,Beacon Press 1969 Onward: Contemporary Poetry & Poetics, Peter Baker, Poetry Essays, Peter Lang Publishing 1996 An Owen Barfield Reader Owen Barfield, Poetry Criticism, Wesleyan U. Press 1999 The Art of Writing: Teachings of the Chinese Masters, Tony Barnstone & Chou Ping, trans., Poetry Essays, Shambhala 1996 The Making of the Auden Canon , Jos. Warren Beach, Poetry Criticism, Russell & Russell 1971 Illuminations, Walter Benjamin, Literary Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 Reflections, Walter Benjamin (Peter Demetz, ed.), Literary Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 Content's Dream, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Sun & Moon 1986 A Poetics, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press 1992 Anxiety of Influence (2nd edition), Harold Bloom, Literary Criticism, Oxford U. Press 1987 Leaping Poetry, Robert Bly, Poetry Essay & Anthology News of the Universe, Robert Bly, Poetry Essays & Anthology, Sierra Club Books 1980 A Poet's Alphabet: Reflections on the Literary Art & Vocation, Louise Bogan (Robt. Phelps & Ruth Limmer, eds.), Poetry Essays, McGraw Hill 1970 Object Lessons, Eavan Boland, Poetry Essays, Norton 1995 The Act and the Place of Poetry, Yves Bonnefoy, Poetry Essays, U. of Chicago Press 1989 Borges Selected Non-Fictions, Jorge Luis Borges, Poetry & Writing, Penguin 2000 Borges On Writing, Jorge Luis Borges (di Giovanni, Macshane, Halpern, interviewers), Interviews, Ecco Press 1972 In the Blue Pharmacy: Essays on Poetry and Other Transformations, Marianne Boruch,Poetry Essays, Trinity U. Press 2005 Yeats at Work, Curtis Bradford, ed., Poetry Manuscript Analysis, Southern Illinois Univ. Press 1965 The Well-Wrought Urn, Cleanth Brooks, Poetry Criticism, Harvest Books 1956 The Main of Light: On the Concept of Poetry, Justus Buchler, Philosophy, Oxford 1974 The Philosophy of Literary Form: Studies in Symbolic Action, Kenneth Burke, Essays: Poetry, Philosophy, Vintage 1941 A Phlosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful, Edmund Burke (J. T. Boulton, ed.), Philosophy/Aesthetics, U. of Notre Dame Press 1968 Selected Essays & Reviews, Hayden Carruth, Poetry Essays, Copper Canyon 1996 Language and Myth, Ernst Cassirer, Philosophy, Dover 1953 How Does A Poem Mean, John Ciardi, Poetry Essays, Houghton Mifflin 1959 Biographia Literaria, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Literary Essays, Various Editions The Language of Criticism & the Structure of Poetry, R.S. Crane, Literary Criticism, U. of Toronto 1953 Selected Writing of Charles Olson, Robert Creeley, editor, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1966 Poetry & Literature: An Introduction to Its Criticism and History, Benedetto Croce (Giovanni Gullace, trans.), Literary Criticism, S. Illinois U. Press 1981 The Problem of Style, J.V. Cunningham, Literary Essays, Fawcett Publications 1966 Poetry As Persuasion, Carl Dennis, Poetry Essays, U. of Georgia Press 2001 Poetry in our Time, Babette Deutsch, Poetry Criticism, Columbia U. Press 1952 Art as Experience, John Dewey, Philosophy, Perigree Books 1980 Sorties, James Dickey, Poetry Essays, LSU Press 1971 Walking Light, Stephen Dunn, Poetry Essays, Boa Editions 2001 The Use of Poetry & the Use of Criticism, T.S. Eliot, Poetry Criticism, Faber & Faber 1933 The Modern Tradition, Richard Ellman & Chas. Fieldelson, Jr., eds., Literary, Cultural & Art Essays,Oxford 1965 Complete Essays & Other Writings by Ralph Waldo Emerson, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Poetry Essays & Philosophy, Modern Library 1950 Seven Types of Ambiguity, William Empson, Poetry Criticism, New Directions 1966 Expansive Poetry: Essays on the New Narrative and New Formalism, Frederick Feirstein, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1989 The Ghost of Meter: Culture & Prosody in American Free Verse, Annie Finch, Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2000 An Exaltation of Forms, Annie Finch & Katherine Varnes, eds., Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2002 Romantic Criticism 1800-1850, R.A. Foakes, ed., Poetry Essays. Arnold Publishers 1968 A Field Guide to Contemporary Poetics Stuart Friebert, David Walker & David Young, eds., Poetry Essays, Oberlin College Press 1997 Robert Frost on Writing, Robert Frost (Elaine Barry, editor), Poetry Essays, Rutgers 1973 Selected Prose of Robert Frost, Robert Frost (H. Cox & E.C. Lathem, eds.), Collier Books 1968 Feeling As A Foreign Language: The Good Strangeness of Poetry, Alice Fulton, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1999 Poetic Meter & Poetic Form (revised edition), Paul Fussell, Formalism?Metrics, Random House 1979 The Poet's Work: 29 Masters of the 20th Century Poetry on the Origin and Practice of Their Art, Reginald Gibbons, ed., Poetry Essays, Houghton Mifflin 1979 Twentieth-Century American Poetics: Poets on the Art of Poetry, Dana Gioia, David Mason & Meg Schoerke, eds., Poetics, McGraw Hill 2003 Can Poetry Matter?: Essays on Poetry & American Culture, Dana Gioia, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1992 Proofs & Theories, Louise Gl?ck,Poetry Essays. Ecco Press 1994 The Collected Works: Essays on Art & Literature, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (John Gearey, editor), Essays: Art & Poetry, Princeton U. Press 1986 The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth, Robert Graves, Poetry Essay, Farrar Straus Giroux 1966 Oxford Addresses on Poetry, Robert Graves, Poetry Essays, Doubleday 1962 The Sighted Singer: Two Works on Poetry for Readers and Writers, Allen R. Grossman (Mark Halliday, interviewer), Poetics, Johns Hopkins U. Press 1991 Of Manywhere-at-Once, Bob Grumman, Poetry Essays New Expansive Poetry, R.S. Gwynn, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1995 Goatfoot Milktongue Twinbird: Interviews, Essays, and Notes on Poetry, 1970-76, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1978 Poetry & Ambition, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1988 Twentieth Century Pleasures, Robert Hass, Poetry Essays, Ecco Press 1984 Robert Hayden: Collected Prose, Robert Hayden (F. Glaysher, ed.; foreword by Wm. Meredith), Literary Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1984 Preoccupations: Selected Prose 1968-78, Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 The Redress of Poetry. Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 1995 Poetry, Language, Thought, Martin Heidegger (trans. by Albert Hofstadter), Philosophy, Harper Colophon Books 1975 Strong Words: Modern Poets on Modern Poetry, W.N. Herbert & Matthew Hollis, eds., Poetry Essays, Bloodaxe Books 2000 Nine Gates: Entering the Mind of Poetry Jane Hirshfield Poetry Essays, HarperCollins 1997 Metre, Rhythm and Verse Form, Philip Hobsbaum, Formalism/ Metrics, Routledge 1999 Essentials Of Literary Criticism,Philip Hobsbaum, Poetry Criticism, 1983 Tradition and Experiment in English Poetry, Philip Hobsbaum. Poetry Criticism 1979 Rhyme's Reason, John Hollander, Formalism/Metrics, Yale U. Press 1981 My Emily Dickinson, Susan Howe, Poetry Criticism, North Atlantic Books 1985 Donald Justice in Conversation, Philip Hoy, interviewer, Interviews The Triggering Town, Richard Hugo, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 Speculations: Essays on Humanism & Philsophy of Art, T.E. Hulme, Philosophy Essays, Routledge & Kegan Paul 1987 The Auden Generation, Samuel Hynes, Poetry Criticism, Princeton U. Press 1982 The Failure of Poetry, The Promise of Language, Laura (Riding) Jackson (John Nolan, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan 2007 The Instant of Knowing, Josephine Jacobsen, Poetry Essay, Library of Congress (pamphlet) The Reaper Essays, Mark Jarman & Robert McDowell, Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1996 Kipling, Auden & Company: Essays & Reviews 1935-1964, Randall Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 Poetry and The Age, Randall Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews. Vintage 1959 The Complete Perfectionist: A Poetics of Work, Juan Ramon Jim?nez (Christopher Maurer, trans. & ed.), Poetry Aphorisms, Doubleday 1997 Donald Justice Reader, Donald Justice, Poetry Essays, University Press of New England 2003 The Pound Era, Hugh Kenner, Poetry Criticism, U. of California 1971 The Romantic Image, Frank Kermode, Literary Criticism, Vintage 1964 The Poetry of Criticism: Horace Epistles II and Ars Poetica, Rpss S. Kirkpatrick, Poetry Criticism, U. of Alberta Press 1990 Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, Melissa Kwasny, ed., Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 2004 Feeling and Form, Susanne K.Langer, Philosophy/Aesthetics , Chas. Scribners 1953 Paul Val?ry: An Anthology, James Lawler, editor, Art & Literary Essays, Routledge 1977 Russian Formalist Criticism: Four Essays, L.T. Lemon & M.J. Reis, trans., Literary Criticism, U. of Nebraska Press 1965 Light Up the Cave, Denise Levertov, Poetry New Directions New & Selected Essays, Denise Levertov, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1992 Stone Cottage: Pound, Yeats & Modernism James, Logenbach, Poetry Criticism, Oxford 1998 On the Sublime, Loginius, Aesthetics, Various Editions In Search of Duende, Federico Garcia Lorca (N. T. DiGiovanni & C. Maurer, trans.), Essays, New Directions 1999 Poetry & Experience, Archibald MacLeish, Poetry Essays, Houghton Mifflin 1960 Creative Intuition in Art & Poetry, Jacques Maritain, Poetry & Art Essays, Pantheon 1953 Versification: A Short Introduction, James McAuley, Formalism/Metrics. Michigan State U. Press 1966 Worlds into Words: Understanding Modern Poems, Diane Middlebrook, Poetry Criticism, Norton 1980 The Witness of Poetry, Czeslaw Milosz, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press 1983 Selected Essays of Eugenio Montale, Eugenio Montale (Jonathan Galassi, trans.), Poetry Essays, Ecco 1982 Predilections: literary essays, Marianne Moore, Poetry Essays, Viking Press 1955 The Bedford Glossary of Critical & Literary Terms, Ross Murfin & Supryia M. Ray, Literary Reference, Bedford 1997 Basic Writings of Nietzsche, Friedrich Nietzsche, Philosophy/Aesthetics, Modern Library 2000 Rules for the Dance: Handbook for Writing & Reading Metrical Verse, Mary Oliver, Formalism/Metrics, Mariner Books 1998 A Poetry Handbook, Mary Oliver, Poetry Reference, Harvest Books 1994 The Other Voice, Octavio Paz, Poetry Essays, Harvest Books 1992 The Bow & the Lyre, Octavio Paz, U. of Texas Press 1973 Poetics of Inderterminacy: Rimbaud to Cage, Majorie Perloff, Poetry Criticism, Princeton U. Press 1981 The Sounds of Poetry: A Brief Guide, Robert Pinsky, Formalism/Metrics, Farrar Straus Giroux 1998 Poetry And The World, Robert Pinsky, Poetry Criticism, Ecco Press 1988 Selected Prose: 1909-1965, Ezra Pound, Literary Essays, New Directions ABC of Reading, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1934 Guide to Kulchur, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions Literary Essays Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions The Imagist Poem, William Pratt, ed., Poetry Criticism, Dutton The Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetics (3rd Edition), Alex Preminger, ed., Poetry Reference, Princeton U. Press 1993 Like a Writer, Francine Prose, Writing Essays Disjunctive Poetics: From Gertrude Stein and Louis Zukofsky to Susan Howe, Peter Quatermain, Poetry Criticism, Cambridge 1992 Exercises in Style, Raymond Queneau, Writing Essay in Versions of Single Story, New Directions 1981 Assays, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry & Literary Essays, New Directions 1961 American Poetry in the Twentieth Century, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry Essays, Continuum Book 1973 Blood, Bread and Poetry: Selected Prose, 1979-1986, Adrienne Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1986 On Lies, Secrets and Silence: Selected Prose, 1966-1978, Adrienne Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 What Is Found There: Notebooks on Poetry and Politics, Adrienne Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1993 Practical Criticism, I. A. Richards, Literary Criticism, Harvest Books 1956 Letters on Cezanne, Rainer Maria Rilke (ed. Clara Rilke; trans. by Joel Agee), Art Essays, Fromme International 1985 Where Silence Reigns: Selected Prose, Rainer Maria Rilke (G. Craig Houston, trans.), Poetry Essays New Directions 1978 Letters to a Young Poet Rainer Maria Rilke (M. D. Herter, trans.), Poetry Essays, Norton 1934 Straw for the Fire: From the Notebooks of Theodore Roethke 1943-1963, Theodore Roethke (David Wagoner, ed.), Poet's Journal, Doubleday 1972 On the Poet and His Craft: Selected Prose, Theodore Roethke (Ralph J. Mills, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Washington Press 1965 The Dream of the Marsh Wren, Patiann Rogers, Poetry Essays, Milkweed Editions 1999 The Modern Poetic Sequence, M.L.Rosenthal & Sally M. Gall, U. of Oxford Press 1983 The Life of Poetry, Muriel Rukeyser, Poetry Essays, Paris Press 1996 The World of Poetry: Poets & Critics on the Art & Function of Poetry, Clive Sansom, ed., Poetry Quotes, Phoenix House 1959 Na?ve & Sentimental Poetry - On the Sublime, Friedrich von Schiller, Philosophy, Poetry, Aesthetics, Frederick Ungar Publishing 1966 Dialogue on Poetry and Literary Aphorisms, Friedrich Schlegel (trans. by Behler & Struc), Poetics, Penn. St. Univ. Press 1968 John Dryden on Dramatic Poetry and other critical essays, George Watson, ed., Poetry Essays, J.M. Dent & Sons 1962 Lives of the Poets, Michael Schmidt, Poetry Bios and Commentary, Vintage 2000 Schopenhauer: Essays & Aphorisms, Arthur Schopenhauer (RJ Hollingdale, trans.), Philosophy Penguin 1970 A Poet's Journal: Days of 1945-1951, George Seferis, Poet's Journal, Belknap (Harvard U. Press) 1974 Prose Keys to Modern Poetry, Karl Shapiro, ed., Poetry Essays, U. of Nebraska Press 1962 A Defence of Poetry, Sir Philip Sidney, Poetry Essay, Various Editions Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry, G. Singh, Literary Criticism. U. of Kentucky Press 1964 A Poet's Notebook, Edith Sitwell, Poetry Quotes, Macmillan & Co. 1944 De/Compositions, W.S. Snodgrass, Poetry Praxis, Graywolf Press 2001 The Making of a Poem, Stephen Spender, Poetry Essays, Norton 1962 House That Jack Built: Cthe Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer, Jack Spicer (ed. Peter Gizzi), Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 1998 Where The Angels Come Toward Us, David St. John, Poetry Essays, White Pine Press 1995 Apreciation: Paintin, Poetry and Prose, Leo Stein, Art Essays, Random House 1947 Writing the Australian Crawl, William Stafford, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1978 Missing Measures: Moderh Poetry and the Revolt Against Meter, Timonthy Steele, Poetry Essays, U. of Arkansas Press 1990 How Writing is Written: Volume II of the Previously Uncollected Writings, Gertrude Stein (Robert Bartlett Haas, ed.), Essays, Black Sparrow Press 1974 The Necessary Angel: Essays on Reality & the Imagination, Wallace Stevens, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1951 Sur Plusiers Beaux Sujects: Wallace Stevens' Commonplace Books, Wallace Stevens (Milton Bates, ed.), Poet's Commonplace Book, Stanford U. Press 1989 Poetry and the Fate of the Senses, Susan Stewart, Poetry Essays, University of Chicago Press 2002 Theories & Documents of Contemporary Art: A Source Book of Artist's Writings, Kristine Stiles & Peter Selz, eds., Art Essays U. of California 1996 The Three Perfections: Chinese Painting, Poetry, and Calligraphy, Michael Sullivan, Poetry & Art, George Braziller 1999 The Book of Forms: A Handbook of Poetics (3rd Edition), Lewis Turco, Formalism/Metrics, U. of New England Press 2000 45 Contemporary Poems: The Creative Process, Albeta Turner, Poetry Praxis, Longman 1985 Lives of the Poets: The Story of One Thousand Years of English & American Poetry, Louis Untermeyer, Short Biographical Essays, Replica Books 1999 Introduction to Poetry: Commentaries on Thirty Poems, Mark Van Doren, Poetry Essays, Hill & Wang 1968 Lives of the Artists, Giorgio Vasari (E. L. Seeley, trans.), Artist Biographies, Noonday 1957 Soul Says, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, Harvard U. Press 1995 Words Chosen Out of Desire, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, U. of Tenn. Press 1984 Telling It Slant: Avant Garde Poetics in the 1990s, Mark Wallace, Poetry Essays, U. of Alabama Press 2001 Nineteen Ways of Looking at Wang Wei, Eliot Weinberger & Octavio Paz, editors, Poetry Essay, Moyer Bell 1987 Concepts of Criticism, Ren? Wellek, Literary Criticism, Yale U. Press 1963 The Embodiment of Knowledge, William Carlos William, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1974 Selected Essays of William Carlos. Williams William Carlos, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1969 In Defense of Reason, Yvor Winters, Poetry Essays, U. of Denver Press 1937 The Japanese Haiku, Kenneth Yasuda, Poetry Criticism, Chas. E. Tuttle 1957 Essays & Introductions, W. B. Yeats, Literary Essays,Collier Books 1961 A Defence of Ardor, Adam Zagajewski (Clare Cavanaugh, trans.), Poetry and Art Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 2004 Multum in Parvo: an essay in poetic imagination, Carl Zigrosser, Poetry Essays, George Braziller 1965 Lyrical Philosophy, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, U. of Toronto Press 1992 Wisdom & Metaphor, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, Gaspereau Press 2003 Dictionary of World Literature, Poetry Reference The Greenwood Encyclopedia of American Poetry, Poetry Reference Rhyming Dictionary, Poetry Reference, Various Editions nN ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Opus40-01 at opus40.org Wed Mar 28 22:52:21 2007 From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:52:21 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <460B29E5.2080904@opus40.org> The Poet's Dictionary: A Handbook of Prosody and Poetic Devices by William Packard The Art of Poetry Writing: A Guide For Poets, Students, & Readers by William Packard and Karl Shaprio jforjames at aol.com wrote: > A while back we had a thread that started under the caption "Books a > Poet Should Own" and evolved into the "Poet's Ideal Library." Margery > Snyde ( http://poetry.about.com/ ) reminded me that I promised to > compile a book list from the various posts. I did that. Edited it > somewhat, deleting those titles that seemed too far afield. And I > added a good number titles, concentrating on Essays > (poetry/art/aesthetics), Literary Criticism/Theory, Practical Texts > & Guidebooks (but not of an introductory nature) and a few other odd > titles. I decided not include Anthologies unless the > introductory/thesis esssay was as important as the poems collected in > support of the thesis. Similarly I neglected reference books that were > not directly related to poetry. > > Sorted alpha by author/editor, this list continues to be open to > suggestions/corrections and an impossible work in progress.... > > A Glossary of Literary Terms, M.H.Abrams, Literary Reference, Holt > Rinehart Winston 1988 > Selected Writing of Guillaume Apollinaire, Guillaume Apollinaire (R. > Shattuck, trans.), Poetry Essays, New Directions 1971 > The Poetics, Aristotle, Poetry Essays, Various Editions > Essays Literary & Critical by Matthew Arnold, Matthew Arnold, Poetry > Essays, JM Dent & Son 1906 > Poetic Rhythm: An Introduction, Derek Attridge, Formalism, Metrics, > Cambridge U. Press 1996 > The Dyer's Hand, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Forewords & Afterwords, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, Erich > Auerbach, Literary Criticism, Doubleday Anchor Books 1957 > The Poetics of Reverie, Gaston Bachelard, Philosophy/Aesthetics, > Beacon Press 1971 > The Poetics of Space, Gaston Bachelard (Maria Jolas, trans.), > Philosophy/Aesthetics ,Beacon Press 1969 > Onward: Contemporary Poetry & Poetics, Peter Baker, Poetry Essays, > Peter Lang Publishing 1996 > An Owen Barfield Reader Owen Barfield, Poetry Criticism, Wesleyan U. > Press 1999 > The Art of Writing: Teachings of the Chinese Masters, Tony Barnstone & > Chou Ping, trans., Poetry Essays, Shambhala 1996 > The Making of the Auden Canon , Jos. Warren Beach, Poetry Criticism, > Russell & Russell 1971 > Illuminations, Walter Benjamin, Literary Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 > Reflections, Walter Benjamin (Peter Demetz, ed.), Literary Criticism, > Schoken Books 1978 > Content's Dream, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Sun & Moon 1986 > A Poetics, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press 1992 > Anxiety of Influence (2nd edition), Harold Bloom, Literary Criticism, > Oxford U. Press 1987 > Leaping Poetry, Robert Bly, Poetry Essay & Anthology > News of the Universe, Robert Bly, Poetry Essays & Anthology, Sierra > Club Books 1980 > A Poet's Alphabet: Reflections on the Literary Art & Vocation, Louise > Bogan (Robt. Phelps & Ruth Limmer, eds.), Poetry Essays, McGraw Hill 1970 > Object Lessons, Eavan Boland, Poetry Essays, Norton 1995 > The Act and the Place of Poetry, Yves Bonnefoy, Poetry Essays, U. of > Chicago Press 1989 > Borges Selected Non-Fictions, Jorge Luis Borges, Poetry & Writing, > Penguin 2000 > Borges On Writing, Jorge Luis Borges (di Giovanni, Macshane, Halpern, > interviewers), Interviews, Ecco Press 1972 > In the Blue Pharmacy: Essays on Poetry and Other Transformations, > Marianne Boruch,Poetry Essays, Trinity U. Press 2005 > Yeats at Work, Curtis Bradford, ed., Poetry Manuscript Analysis, > Southern Illinois Univ. Press 1965 > The Well-Wrought Urn, Cleanth Brooks, Poetry Criticism, Harvest Books 1956 > The Main of Light: On the Concept of Poetry, Justus Buchler, > Philosophy, Oxford 1974 > The Philosophy of Literary Form: Studies in Symbolic Action, Kenneth > Burke, Essays: Poetry, Philosophy, Vintage 1941 > A Phlosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime and > Beautiful, Edmund Burke (J. T. Boulton, ed.), Philosophy/Aesthetics, > U. of Notre Dame Press 1968 > Selected Essays & Reviews, Hayden Carruth, Poetry Essays, Copper > Canyon 1996 > Language and Myth, Ernst Cassirer, Philosophy, Dover 1953 > How Does A Poem Mean, John Ciardi, Poetry Essays, Houghton Mifflin 1959 > Biographia Literaria, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Literary Essays, > Various Editions > The Language of Criticism & the Structure of Poetry, R.S. Crane, > Literary Criticism, U. of Toronto 1953 > Selected Writing of Charles Olson, Robert Creeley, editor, Poetry > Essays, New Directions 1966 > Poetry & Literature: An Introduction to Its Criticism and History, > Benedetto Croce (Giovanni Gullace, trans.), Literary Criticism, S. > Illinois U. Press 1981 > The Problem of Style, J.V. Cunningham, Literary Essays, Fawcett > Publications 1966 > Poetry As Persuasion, Carl Dennis, Poetry Essays, U. of Georgia Press 2001 > Poetry in our Time, Babette Deutsch, Poetry Criticism, Columbia U. > Press 1952 > Art as Experience, John Dewey, Philosophy, Perigree Books 1980 > Sorties, James Dickey, Poetry Essays, LSU Press 1971 > Walking Light, Stephen Dunn, Poetry Essays, Boa Editions 2001 > The Use of Poetry & the Use of Criticism, T.S. Eliot, Poetry > Criticism, Faber & Faber 1933 > The Modern Tradition, Richard Ellman & Chas. Fieldelson, Jr., eds., > Literary, Cultural & Art Essays,Oxford 1965 > Complete Essays & Other Writings by Ralph Waldo Emerson, Ralph Waldo > Emerson, Poetry Essays & Philosophy, Modern Library 1950 > Seven Types of Ambiguity, William Empson, Poetry Criticism, New > Directions 1966 > Expansive Poetry: Essays on the New Narrative and New Formalism, > Frederick Feirstein, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1989 > The Ghost of Meter: Culture & Prosody in American Free Verse, Annie > Finch, Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2000 > An Exaltation of Forms, Annie Finch & Katherine Varnes, eds., > Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2002 > Romantic Criticism 1800-1850, R.A. Foakes, ed., Poetry Essays. Arnold > Publishers 1968 > A Field Guide to Contemporary Poetics Stuart Friebert, David Walker & > David Young, eds., Poetry Essays, Oberlin College Press 1997 > Robert Frost on Writing, Robert Frost (Elaine Barry, editor), Poetry > Essays, Rutgers 1973 > Selected Prose of Robert Frost, Robert Frost (H. Cox & E.C. Lathem, > eds.), Collier Books 1968 > Feeling As A Foreign Language: The Good Strangeness of Poetry, Alice > Fulton, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1999 > Poetic Meter & Poetic Form (revised edition), Paul Fussell, > Formalism?Metrics, Random House 1979 > The Poet's Work: 29 Masters of the 20th Century Poetry on the Origin > and Practice of Their Art, Reginald Gibbons, ed., Poetry Essays, > Houghton Mifflin 1979 > Twentieth-Century American Poetics: Poets on the Art of Poetry, Dana > Gioia, David Mason & Meg Schoerke, eds., Poetics, McGraw Hill 2003 > Can Poetry Matter?: Essays on Poetry & American Culture, Dana Gioia, > Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1992 > Proofs & Theories, Louise Gl?ck,Poetry Essays. Ecco Press 1994 > The Collected Works: Essays on Art & Literature, Johann Wolfgang von > Goethe (John Gearey, editor), Essays: Art & Poetry, Princeton U. Press > 1986 > The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth, Robert Graves, > Poetry Essay, Farrar Straus Giroux 1966 > Oxford Addresses on Poetry, Robert Graves, Poetry Essays, Doubleday 1962 > The Sighted Singer: Two Works on Poetry for Readers and Writers, Allen > R. Grossman (Mark Halliday, interviewer), Poetics, Johns Hopkins U. > Press 1991 > Of Manywhere-at-Once, Bob Grumman, Poetry Essays > New Expansive Poetry, R.S. Gwynn, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press > 1995 > Goatfoot Milktongue Twinbird: Interviews, Essays, and Notes on Poetry, > 1970-76, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1978 > Poetry & Ambition, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1988 > Twentieth Century Pleasures, Robert Hass, Poetry Essays, Ecco Press 1984 > Robert Hayden: Collected Prose, Robert Hayden (F. Glaysher, ed.; > foreword by Wm. Meredith), Literary Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1984 > Preoccupations: Selected Prose 1968-78, Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, > Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > The Redress of Poetry. Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, Farrar Straus > Giroux 1995 > Poetry, Language, Thought, Martin Heidegger (trans. by Albert > Hofstadter), Philosophy, Harper Colophon Books 1975 > Strong Words: Modern Poets on Modern Poetry, W.N. Herbert & Matthew > Hollis, eds., Poetry Essays, Bloodaxe Books 2000 > Nine Gates: Entering the Mind of Poetry Jane Hirshfield Poetry Essays, > HarperCollins 1997 > Metre, Rhythm and Verse Form, Philip Hobsbaum, Formalism/ Metrics, > Routledge 1999 > Essentials Of Literary Criticism,Philip Hobsbaum, Poetry Criticism, 1983 > Tradition and Experiment in English Poetry, Philip Hobsbaum. Poetry > Criticism 1979 > Rhyme's Reason, John Hollander, Formalism/Metrics, Yale U. Press 1981 > My Emily Dickinson, Susan Howe, Poetry Criticism, North Atlantic Books > 1985 > Donald Justice in Conversation, Philip Hoy, interviewer, Interviews > The Triggering Town, Richard Hugo, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > Speculations: Essays on Humanism & Philsophy of Art, T.E. Hulme, > Philosophy Essays, Routledge & Kegan Paul 1987 > The Auden Generation, Samuel Hynes, Poetry Criticism, Princeton U. > Press 1982 > The Failure of Poetry, The Promise of Language, Laura (Riding) Jackson > (John Nolan, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan 2007 > The Instant of Knowing, Josephine Jacobsen, Poetry Essay, Library of > Congress (pamphlet) > The Reaper Essays, Mark Jarman & Robert McDowell, Poetry Essays, Story > Line Press 1996 > Kipling, Auden & Company: Essays & Reviews 1935-1964, Randall Jarrell, > Poetry Essays & Reviews, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > Poetry and The Age, Randall Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews. Vintage 1959 > The Complete Perfectionist: A Poetics of Work, Juan Ramon Jim?nez > (Christopher Maurer, trans. & ed.), Poetry Aphorisms, Doubleday 1997 > Donald Justice Reader, Donald Justice, Poetry Essays, University Press > of New England 2003 > The Pound Era, Hugh Kenner, Poetry Criticism, U. of California 1971 > The Romantic Image, Frank Kermode, Literary Criticism, Vintage 1964 > The Poetry of Criticism: Horace Epistles II and Ars Poetica, Rpss S. > Kirkpatrick, Poetry Criticism, U. of Alberta Press 1990 > Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, Melissa > Kwasny, ed., Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 2004 > Feeling and Form, Susanne K.Langer, Philosophy/Aesthetics , Chas. > Scribners 1953 > Paul Val?ry: An Anthology, James Lawler, editor, Art & Literary > Essays, Routledge 1977 > Russian Formalist Criticism: Four Essays, L.T. Lemon & M.J. Reis, > trans., Literary Criticism, U. of Nebraska Press 1965 > Light Up the Cave, Denise Levertov, Poetry New Directions > New & Selected Essays, Denise Levertov, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1992 > Stone Cottage: Pound, Yeats & Modernism James, Logenbach, Poetry > Criticism, Oxford 1998 > On the Sublime, Loginius, Aesthetics, Various Editions > In Search of Duende, Federico Garcia Lorca (N. T. DiGiovanni & C. > Maurer, trans.), Essays, New Directions 1999 > Poetry & Experience, Archibald MacLeish, Poetry Essays, Houghton > Mifflin 1960 > Creative Intuition in Art & Poetry, Jacques Maritain, Poetry & Art > Essays, Pantheon 1953 > Versification: A Short Introduction, James McAuley, Formalism/Metrics. > Michigan State U. Press 1966 > Worlds into Words: Understanding Modern Poems, Diane Middlebrook, > Poetry Criticism, Norton 1980 > The Witness of Poetry, Czeslaw Milosz, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press > 1983 > Selected Essays of Eugenio Montale, Eugenio Montale (Jonathan Galassi, > trans.), Poetry Essays, Ecco 1982 > Predilections: literary essays, Marianne Moore, Poetry Essays, Viking > Press 1955 > The Bedford Glossary of Critical & Literary Terms, Ross Murfin & > Supryia M. Ray, Literary Reference, Bedford 1997 > Basic Writings of Nietzsche, Friedrich Nietzsche, > Philosophy/Aesthetics, Modern Library 2000 > Rules for the Dance: Handbook for Writing & Reading Metrical Verse, > Mary Oliver, Formalism/Metrics, Mariner Books 1998 > A Poetry Handbook, Mary Oliver, Poetry Reference, Harvest Books 1994 > The Other Voice, Octavio Paz, Poetry Essays, Harvest Books 1992 > The Bow & the Lyre, Octavio Paz, U. of Texas Press 1973 > Poetics of Inderterminacy: Rimbaud to Cage, Majorie Perloff, Poetry > Criticism, Princeton U. Press 1981 > The Sounds of Poetry: A Brief Guide, Robert Pinsky, Formalism/Metrics, > Farrar Straus Giroux 1998 > Poetry And The World, Robert Pinsky, Poetry Criticism, Ecco Press 1988 > Selected Prose: 1909-1965, Ezra Pound, Literary Essays, New Directions > ABC of Reading, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1934 > Guide to Kulchur, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > Literary Essays Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > The Imagist Poem, William Pratt, ed., Poetry Criticism, Dutton > The Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetics (3rd Edition), Alex Preminger, > ed., Poetry Reference, Princeton U. Press 1993 > Like a Writer, Francine Prose, Writing Essays > Disjunctive Poetics: From Gertrude Stein and Louis Zukofsky to Susan > Howe, Peter Quatermain, Poetry Criticism, Cambridge 1992 > Exercises in Style, Raymond Queneau, Writing Essay in Versions of > Single Story, New Directions 1981 > Assays, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry & Literary Essays, New Directions 1961 > American Poetry in the Twentieth Century, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry > Essays, Continuum Book 1973 > Blood, Bread and Poetry: Selected Prose, 1979-1986, Adrienne Rich, > Poetry Essays, Norton 1986 > On Lies, Secrets and Silence: Selected Prose, 1966-1978, Adrienne > Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > What Is Found There: Notebooks on Poetry and Politics, Adrienne Rich, > Poetry Essays, Norton 1993 > Practical Criticism, I. A. Richards, Literary Criticism, Harvest Books > 1956 > Letters on Cezanne, Rainer Maria Rilke (ed. Clara Rilke; trans. by > Joel Agee), Art Essays, Fromme International 1985 > Where Silence Reigns: Selected Prose, Rainer Maria Rilke (G. Craig > Houston, trans.), Poetry Essays New Directions 1978 > Letters to a Young Poet Rainer Maria Rilke (M. D. Herter, trans.), > Poetry Essays, Norton 1934 > Straw for the Fire: From the Notebooks of Theodore Roethke 1943-1963, > Theodore Roethke (David Wagoner, ed.), Poet's Journal, Doubleday 1972 > On the Poet and His Craft: Selected Prose, Theodore Roethke (Ralph J. > Mills, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Washington Press 1965 > The Dream of the Marsh Wren, Patiann Rogers, Poetry Essays, Milkweed > Editions 1999 > The Modern Poetic Sequence, M.L.Rosenthal & Sally M. Gall, U. of > Oxford Press 1983 > The Life of Poetry, Muriel Rukeyser, Poetry Essays, Paris Press 1996 > The World of Poetry: Poets & Critics on the Art & Function of Poetry, > Clive Sansom, ed., Poetry Quotes, Phoenix House 1959 > Na?ve & Sentimental Poetry - On the Sublime, Friedrich von Schiller, > Philosophy, Poetry, Aesthetics, Frederick Ungar Publishing 1966 > Dialogue on Poetry and Literary Aphorisms, Friedrich Schlegel (trans. > by Behler & Struc), Poetics, Penn. St. Univ. Press 1968 > John Dryden on Dramatic Poetry and other critical essays, George > Watson, ed., Poetry Essays, J.M. Dent & Sons 1962 > Lives of the Poets, Michael Schmidt, Poetry Bios and Commentary, > Vintage 2000 > Schopenhauer: Essays & Aphorisms, Arthur Schopenhauer (RJ Hollingdale, > trans.), Philosophy Penguin 1970 > A Poet's Journal: Days of 1945-1951, George Seferis, Poet's Journal, > Belknap (Harvard U. Press) 1974 > Prose Keys to Modern Poetry, Karl Shapiro, ed., Poetry Essays, U. of > Nebraska Press 1962 > A Defence of Poetry, Sir Philip Sidney, Poetry Essay, Various Editions > Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry, G. Singh, Literary Criticism. U. of > Kentucky Press 1964 > A Poet's Notebook, Edith Sitwell, Poetry Quotes, Macmillan & Co. 1944 > De/Compositions, W.S. Snodgrass, Poetry Praxis, Graywolf Press 2001 > The Making of a Poem, Stephen Spender, Poetry Essays, Norton 1962 > House That Jack Built: Cthe Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer, Jack > Spicer (ed. Peter Gizzi), Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 1998 > Where The Angels Come Toward Us, David St. John, Poetry Essays, White > Pine Press 1995 > Apreciation: Paintin, Poetry and Prose, Leo Stein, Art Essays, Random > House 1947 > Writing the Australian Crawl, William Stafford, Poetry Essays, U. of > Michigan Press 1978 > Missing Measures: Moderh Poetry and the Revolt Against Meter, Timonthy > Steele, Poetry Essays, U. of Arkansas Press 1990 > How Writing is Written: Volume II of the Previously Uncollected > Writings, Gertrude Stein (Robert Bartlett Haas, ed.), Essays, Black > Sparrow Press 1974 > The Necessary Angel: Essays on Reality & the Imagination, Wallace > Stevens, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1951 > Sur Plusiers Beaux Sujects: Wallace Stevens' Commonplace Books, > Wallace Stevens (Milton Bates, ed.), Poet's Commonplace Book, Stanford > U. Press 1989 > Poetry and the Fate of the Senses, Susan Stewart, Poetry Essays, > University of Chicago Press 2002 > Theories & Documents of Contemporary Art: A Source Book of Artist's > Writings, Kristine Stiles & Peter Selz, eds., Art Essays U. of > California 1996 > The Three Perfections: Chinese Painting, Poetry, and Calligraphy, > Michael Sullivan, Poetry & Art, George Braziller 1999 > The Book of Forms: A Handbook of Poetics (3rd Edition), Lewis Turco, > Formalism/Metrics, U. of New England Press 2000 > 45 Contemporary Poems: The Creative Process, Albeta Turner, Poetry > Praxis, Longman 1985 > Lives of the Poets: The Story of One Thousand Years of English & > American Poetry, Louis Untermeyer, Short Biographical Essays, Replica > Books 1999 > Introduction to Poetry: Commentaries on Thirty Poems, Mark Van Doren, > Poetry Essays, Hill & Wang 1968 > Lives of the Artists, Giorgio Vasari (E. L. Seeley, trans.), Artist > Biographies, Noonday 1957 > Soul Says, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, Harvard U. Press 1995 > Words Chosen Out of Desire, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, U. of > Tenn. Press 1984 > Telling It Slant: Avant Garde Poetics in the 1990s, Mark Wallace, > Poetry Essays, U. of Alabama Press 2001 > Nineteen Ways of Looking at Wang Wei, Eliot Weinberger & Octavio Paz, > editors, Poetry Essay, Moyer Bell 1987 > Concepts of Criticism, Ren? Wellek, Literary Criticism, Yale U. Press 1963 > The Embodiment of Knowledge, William Carlos William, Poetry Essays, > New Directions 1974 > Selected Essays of William Carlos. Williams William Carlos, Poetry > Essays, New Directions 1969 > In Defense of Reason, Yvor Winters, Poetry Essays, U. of Denver Press 1937 > The Japanese Haiku, Kenneth Yasuda, Poetry Criticism, Chas. E. Tuttle 1957 > Essays & Introductions, W. B. Yeats, Literary Essays,Collier Books 1961 > A Defence of Ardor, Adam Zagajewski (Clare Cavanaugh, trans.), Poetry > and Art Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 2004 > Multum in Parvo: an essay in poetic imagination, Carl Zigrosser, > Poetry Essays, George Braziller 1965 > Lyrical Philosophy, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, U. of Toronto > Press 1992 > Wisdom & Metaphor, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, Gaspereau Press 2003 > Dictionary of World Literature, Poetry Reference > The Greenwood Encyclopedia of American Poetry, Poetry Reference > Rhyming Dictionary, Poetry Reference, Various Editions > nN > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at *AOL.com* > . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- Tad Richards http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ From Opus40-01 at opus40.org Wed Mar 28 22:58:35 2007 From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:58:35 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <460B2B5B.2020008@opus40.org> Theory Of Literature by Rene Wellek and Austin Warren jforjames at aol.com wrote: > A while back we had a thread that started under the caption "Books a > Poet Should Own" and evolved into the "Poet's Ideal Library." Margery > Snyde ( http://poetry.about.com/ ) reminded me that I promised to > compile a book list from the various posts. I did that. Edited it > somewhat, deleting those titles that seemed too far afield. And I > added a good number titles, concentrating on Essays > (poetry/art/aesthetics), Literary Criticism/Theory, Practical Texts > & Guidebooks (but not of an introductory nature) and a few other odd > titles. I decided not include Anthologies unless the > introductory/thesis esssay was as important as the poems collected in > support of the thesis. Similarly I neglected reference books that were > not directly related to poetry. > > Sorted alpha by author/editor, this list continues to be open to > suggestions/corrections and an impossible work in progress.... > > A Glossary of Literary Terms, M.H.Abrams, Literary Reference, Holt > Rinehart Winston 1988 > Selected Writing of Guillaume Apollinaire, Guillaume Apollinaire (R. > Shattuck, trans.), Poetry Essays, New Directions 1971 > The Poetics, Aristotle, Poetry Essays, Various Editions > Essays Literary & Critical by Matthew Arnold, Matthew Arnold, Poetry > Essays, JM Dent & Son 1906 > Poetic Rhythm: An Introduction, Derek Attridge, Formalism, Metrics, > Cambridge U. Press 1996 > The Dyer's Hand, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Forewords & Afterwords, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, Erich > Auerbach, Literary Criticism, Doubleday Anchor Books 1957 > The Poetics of Reverie, Gaston Bachelard, Philosophy/Aesthetics, > Beacon Press 1971 > The Poetics of Space, Gaston Bachelard (Maria Jolas, trans.), > Philosophy/Aesthetics ,Beacon Press 1969 > Onward: Contemporary Poetry & Poetics, Peter Baker, Poetry Essays, > Peter Lang Publishing 1996 > An Owen Barfield Reader Owen Barfield, Poetry Criticism, Wesleyan U. > Press 1999 > The Art of Writing: Teachings of the Chinese Masters, Tony Barnstone & > Chou Ping, trans., Poetry Essays, Shambhala 1996 > The Making of the Auden Canon , Jos. Warren Beach, Poetry Criticism, > Russell & Russell 1971 > Illuminations, Walter Benjamin, Literary Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 > Reflections, Walter Benjamin (Peter Demetz, ed.), Literary Criticism, > Schoken Books 1978 > Content's Dream, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Sun & Moon 1986 > A Poetics, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press 1992 > Anxiety of Influence (2nd edition), Harold Bloom, Literary Criticism, > Oxford U. Press 1987 > Leaping Poetry, Robert Bly, Poetry Essay & Anthology > News of the Universe, Robert Bly, Poetry Essays & Anthology, Sierra > Club Books 1980 > A Poet's Alphabet: Reflections on the Literary Art & Vocation, Louise > Bogan (Robt. Phelps & Ruth Limmer, eds.), Poetry Essays, McGraw Hill 1970 > Object Lessons, Eavan Boland, Poetry Essays, Norton 1995 > The Act and the Place of Poetry, Yves Bonnefoy, Poetry Essays, U. of > Chicago Press 1989 > Borges Selected Non-Fictions, Jorge Luis Borges, Poetry & Writing, > Penguin 2000 > Borges On Writing, Jorge Luis Borges (di Giovanni, Macshane, Halpern, > interviewers), Interviews, Ecco Press 1972 > In the Blue Pharmacy: Essays on Poetry and Other Transformations, > Marianne Boruch,Poetry Essays, Trinity U. Press 2005 > Yeats at Work, Curtis Bradford, ed., Poetry Manuscript Analysis, > Southern Illinois Univ. Press 1965 > The Well-Wrought Urn, Cleanth Brooks, Poetry Criticism, Harvest Books 1956 > The Main of Light: On the Concept of Poetry, Justus Buchler, > Philosophy, Oxford 1974 > The Philosophy of Literary Form: Studies in Symbolic Action, Kenneth > Burke, Essays: Poetry, Philosophy, Vintage 1941 > A Phlosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime and > Beautiful, Edmund Burke (J. T. Boulton, ed.), Philosophy/Aesthetics, > U. of Notre Dame Press 1968 > Selected Essays & Reviews, Hayden Carruth, Poetry Essays, Copper > Canyon 1996 > Language and Myth, Ernst Cassirer, Philosophy, Dover 1953 > How Does A Poem Mean, John Ciardi, Poetry Essays, Houghton Mifflin 1959 > Biographia Literaria, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Literary Essays, > Various Editions > The Language of Criticism & the Structure of Poetry, R.S. Crane, > Literary Criticism, U. of Toronto 1953 > Selected Writing of Charles Olson, Robert Creeley, editor, Poetry > Essays, New Directions 1966 > Poetry & Literature: An Introduction to Its Criticism and History, > Benedetto Croce (Giovanni Gullace, trans.), Literary Criticism, S. > Illinois U. Press 1981 > The Problem of Style, J.V. Cunningham, Literary Essays, Fawcett > Publications 1966 > Poetry As Persuasion, Carl Dennis, Poetry Essays, U. of Georgia Press 2001 > Poetry in our Time, Babette Deutsch, Poetry Criticism, Columbia U. > Press 1952 > Art as Experience, John Dewey, Philosophy, Perigree Books 1980 > Sorties, James Dickey, Poetry Essays, LSU Press 1971 > Walking Light, Stephen Dunn, Poetry Essays, Boa Editions 2001 > The Use of Poetry & the Use of Criticism, T.S. Eliot, Poetry > Criticism, Faber & Faber 1933 > The Modern Tradition, Richard Ellman & Chas. Fieldelson, Jr., eds., > Literary, Cultural & Art Essays,Oxford 1965 > Complete Essays & Other Writings by Ralph Waldo Emerson, Ralph Waldo > Emerson, Poetry Essays & Philosophy, Modern Library 1950 > Seven Types of Ambiguity, William Empson, Poetry Criticism, New > Directions 1966 > Expansive Poetry: Essays on the New Narrative and New Formalism, > Frederick Feirstein, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1989 > The Ghost of Meter: Culture & Prosody in American Free Verse, Annie > Finch, Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2000 > An Exaltation of Forms, Annie Finch & Katherine Varnes, eds., > Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2002 > Romantic Criticism 1800-1850, R.A. Foakes, ed., Poetry Essays. Arnold > Publishers 1968 > A Field Guide to Contemporary Poetics Stuart Friebert, David Walker & > David Young, eds., Poetry Essays, Oberlin College Press 1997 > Robert Frost on Writing, Robert Frost (Elaine Barry, editor), Poetry > Essays, Rutgers 1973 > Selected Prose of Robert Frost, Robert Frost (H. Cox & E.C. Lathem, > eds.), Collier Books 1968 > Feeling As A Foreign Language: The Good Strangeness of Poetry, Alice > Fulton, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1999 > Poetic Meter & Poetic Form (revised edition), Paul Fussell, > Formalism?Metrics, Random House 1979 > The Poet's Work: 29 Masters of the 20th Century Poetry on the Origin > and Practice of Their Art, Reginald Gibbons, ed., Poetry Essays, > Houghton Mifflin 1979 > Twentieth-Century American Poetics: Poets on the Art of Poetry, Dana > Gioia, David Mason & Meg Schoerke, eds., Poetics, McGraw Hill 2003 > Can Poetry Matter?: Essays on Poetry & American Culture, Dana Gioia, > Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1992 > Proofs & Theories, Louise Gl?ck,Poetry Essays. Ecco Press 1994 > The Collected Works: Essays on Art & Literature, Johann Wolfgang von > Goethe (John Gearey, editor), Essays: Art & Poetry, Princeton U. Press > 1986 > The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth, Robert Graves, > Poetry Essay, Farrar Straus Giroux 1966 > Oxford Addresses on Poetry, Robert Graves, Poetry Essays, Doubleday 1962 > The Sighted Singer: Two Works on Poetry for Readers and Writers, Allen > R. Grossman (Mark Halliday, interviewer), Poetics, Johns Hopkins U. > Press 1991 > Of Manywhere-at-Once, Bob Grumman, Poetry Essays > New Expansive Poetry, R.S. Gwynn, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press > 1995 > Goatfoot Milktongue Twinbird: Interviews, Essays, and Notes on Poetry, > 1970-76, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1978 > Poetry & Ambition, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1988 > Twentieth Century Pleasures, Robert Hass, Poetry Essays, Ecco Press 1984 > Robert Hayden: Collected Prose, Robert Hayden (F. Glaysher, ed.; > foreword by Wm. Meredith), Literary Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1984 > Preoccupations: Selected Prose 1968-78, Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, > Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > The Redress of Poetry. Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, Farrar Straus > Giroux 1995 > Poetry, Language, Thought, Martin Heidegger (trans. by Albert > Hofstadter), Philosophy, Harper Colophon Books 1975 > Strong Words: Modern Poets on Modern Poetry, W.N. Herbert & Matthew > Hollis, eds., Poetry Essays, Bloodaxe Books 2000 > Nine Gates: Entering the Mind of Poetry Jane Hirshfield Poetry Essays, > HarperCollins 1997 > Metre, Rhythm and Verse Form, Philip Hobsbaum, Formalism/ Metrics, > Routledge 1999 > Essentials Of Literary Criticism,Philip Hobsbaum, Poetry Criticism, 1983 > Tradition and Experiment in English Poetry, Philip Hobsbaum. Poetry > Criticism 1979 > Rhyme's Reason, John Hollander, Formalism/Metrics, Yale U. Press 1981 > My Emily Dickinson, Susan Howe, Poetry Criticism, North Atlantic Books > 1985 > Donald Justice in Conversation, Philip Hoy, interviewer, Interviews > The Triggering Town, Richard Hugo, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > Speculations: Essays on Humanism & Philsophy of Art, T.E. Hulme, > Philosophy Essays, Routledge & Kegan Paul 1987 > The Auden Generation, Samuel Hynes, Poetry Criticism, Princeton U. > Press 1982 > The Failure of Poetry, The Promise of Language, Laura (Riding) Jackson > (John Nolan, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan 2007 > The Instant of Knowing, Josephine Jacobsen, Poetry Essay, Library of > Congress (pamphlet) > The Reaper Essays, Mark Jarman & Robert McDowell, Poetry Essays, Story > Line Press 1996 > Kipling, Auden & Company: Essays & Reviews 1935-1964, Randall Jarrell, > Poetry Essays & Reviews, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > Poetry and The Age, Randall Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews. Vintage 1959 > The Complete Perfectionist: A Poetics of Work, Juan Ramon Jim?nez > (Christopher Maurer, trans. & ed.), Poetry Aphorisms, Doubleday 1997 > Donald Justice Reader, Donald Justice, Poetry Essays, University Press > of New England 2003 > The Pound Era, Hugh Kenner, Poetry Criticism, U. of California 1971 > The Romantic Image, Frank Kermode, Literary Criticism, Vintage 1964 > The Poetry of Criticism: Horace Epistles II and Ars Poetica, Rpss S. > Kirkpatrick, Poetry Criticism, U. of Alberta Press 1990 > Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, Melissa > Kwasny, ed., Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 2004 > Feeling and Form, Susanne K.Langer, Philosophy/Aesthetics , Chas. > Scribners 1953 > Paul Val?ry: An Anthology, James Lawler, editor, Art & Literary > Essays, Routledge 1977 > Russian Formalist Criticism: Four Essays, L.T. Lemon & M.J. Reis, > trans., Literary Criticism, U. of Nebraska Press 1965 > Light Up the Cave, Denise Levertov, Poetry New Directions > New & Selected Essays, Denise Levertov, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1992 > Stone Cottage: Pound, Yeats & Modernism James, Logenbach, Poetry > Criticism, Oxford 1998 > On the Sublime, Loginius, Aesthetics, Various Editions > In Search of Duende, Federico Garcia Lorca (N. T. DiGiovanni & C. > Maurer, trans.), Essays, New Directions 1999 > Poetry & Experience, Archibald MacLeish, Poetry Essays, Houghton > Mifflin 1960 > Creative Intuition in Art & Poetry, Jacques Maritain, Poetry & Art > Essays, Pantheon 1953 > Versification: A Short Introduction, James McAuley, Formalism/Metrics. > Michigan State U. Press 1966 > Worlds into Words: Understanding Modern Poems, Diane Middlebrook, > Poetry Criticism, Norton 1980 > The Witness of Poetry, Czeslaw Milosz, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press > 1983 > Selected Essays of Eugenio Montale, Eugenio Montale (Jonathan Galassi, > trans.), Poetry Essays, Ecco 1982 > Predilections: literary essays, Marianne Moore, Poetry Essays, Viking > Press 1955 > The Bedford Glossary of Critical & Literary Terms, Ross Murfin & > Supryia M. Ray, Literary Reference, Bedford 1997 > Basic Writings of Nietzsche, Friedrich Nietzsche, > Philosophy/Aesthetics, Modern Library 2000 > Rules for the Dance: Handbook for Writing & Reading Metrical Verse, > Mary Oliver, Formalism/Metrics, Mariner Books 1998 > A Poetry Handbook, Mary Oliver, Poetry Reference, Harvest Books 1994 > The Other Voice, Octavio Paz, Poetry Essays, Harvest Books 1992 > The Bow & the Lyre, Octavio Paz, U. of Texas Press 1973 > Poetics of Inderterminacy: Rimbaud to Cage, Majorie Perloff, Poetry > Criticism, Princeton U. Press 1981 > The Sounds of Poetry: A Brief Guide, Robert Pinsky, Formalism/Metrics, > Farrar Straus Giroux 1998 > Poetry And The World, Robert Pinsky, Poetry Criticism, Ecco Press 1988 > Selected Prose: 1909-1965, Ezra Pound, Literary Essays, New Directions > ABC of Reading, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1934 > Guide to Kulchur, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > Literary Essays Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > The Imagist Poem, William Pratt, ed., Poetry Criticism, Dutton > The Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetics (3rd Edition), Alex Preminger, > ed., Poetry Reference, Princeton U. Press 1993 > Like a Writer, Francine Prose, Writing Essays > Disjunctive Poetics: From Gertrude Stein and Louis Zukofsky to Susan > Howe, Peter Quatermain, Poetry Criticism, Cambridge 1992 > Exercises in Style, Raymond Queneau, Writing Essay in Versions of > Single Story, New Directions 1981 > Assays, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry & Literary Essays, New Directions 1961 > American Poetry in the Twentieth Century, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry > Essays, Continuum Book 1973 > Blood, Bread and Poetry: Selected Prose, 1979-1986, Adrienne Rich, > Poetry Essays, Norton 1986 > On Lies, Secrets and Silence: Selected Prose, 1966-1978, Adrienne > Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > What Is Found There: Notebooks on Poetry and Politics, Adrienne Rich, > Poetry Essays, Norton 1993 > Practical Criticism, I. A. Richards, Literary Criticism, Harvest Books > 1956 > Letters on Cezanne, Rainer Maria Rilke (ed. Clara Rilke; trans. by > Joel Agee), Art Essays, Fromme International 1985 > Where Silence Reigns: Selected Prose, Rainer Maria Rilke (G. Craig > Houston, trans.), Poetry Essays New Directions 1978 > Letters to a Young Poet Rainer Maria Rilke (M. D. Herter, trans.), > Poetry Essays, Norton 1934 > Straw for the Fire: From the Notebooks of Theodore Roethke 1943-1963, > Theodore Roethke (David Wagoner, ed.), Poet's Journal, Doubleday 1972 > On the Poet and His Craft: Selected Prose, Theodore Roethke (Ralph J. > Mills, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Washington Press 1965 > The Dream of the Marsh Wren, Patiann Rogers, Poetry Essays, Milkweed > Editions 1999 > The Modern Poetic Sequence, M.L.Rosenthal & Sally M. Gall, U. of > Oxford Press 1983 > The Life of Poetry, Muriel Rukeyser, Poetry Essays, Paris Press 1996 > The World of Poetry: Poets & Critics on the Art & Function of Poetry, > Clive Sansom, ed., Poetry Quotes, Phoenix House 1959 > Na?ve & Sentimental Poetry - On the Sublime, Friedrich von Schiller, > Philosophy, Poetry, Aesthetics, Frederick Ungar Publishing 1966 > Dialogue on Poetry and Literary Aphorisms, Friedrich Schlegel (trans. > by Behler & Struc), Poetics, Penn. St. Univ. Press 1968 > John Dryden on Dramatic Poetry and other critical essays, George > Watson, ed., Poetry Essays, J.M. Dent & Sons 1962 > Lives of the Poets, Michael Schmidt, Poetry Bios and Commentary, > Vintage 2000 > Schopenhauer: Essays & Aphorisms, Arthur Schopenhauer (RJ Hollingdale, > trans.), Philosophy Penguin 1970 > A Poet's Journal: Days of 1945-1951, George Seferis, Poet's Journal, > Belknap (Harvard U. Press) 1974 > Prose Keys to Modern Poetry, Karl Shapiro, ed., Poetry Essays, U. of > Nebraska Press 1962 > A Defence of Poetry, Sir Philip Sidney, Poetry Essay, Various Editions > Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry, G. Singh, Literary Criticism. U. of > Kentucky Press 1964 > A Poet's Notebook, Edith Sitwell, Poetry Quotes, Macmillan & Co. 1944 > De/Compositions, W.S. Snodgrass, Poetry Praxis, Graywolf Press 2001 > The Making of a Poem, Stephen Spender, Poetry Essays, Norton 1962 > House That Jack Built: Cthe Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer, Jack > Spicer (ed. Peter Gizzi), Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 1998 > Where The Angels Come Toward Us, David St. John, Poetry Essays, White > Pine Press 1995 > Apreciation: Paintin, Poetry and Prose, Leo Stein, Art Essays, Random > House 1947 > Writing the Australian Crawl, William Stafford, Poetry Essays, U. of > Michigan Press 1978 > Missing Measures: Moderh Poetry and the Revolt Against Meter, Timonthy > Steele, Poetry Essays, U. of Arkansas Press 1990 > How Writing is Written: Volume II of the Previously Uncollected > Writings, Gertrude Stein (Robert Bartlett Haas, ed.), Essays, Black > Sparrow Press 1974 > The Necessary Angel: Essays on Reality & the Imagination, Wallace > Stevens, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1951 > Sur Plusiers Beaux Sujects: Wallace Stevens' Commonplace Books, > Wallace Stevens (Milton Bates, ed.), Poet's Commonplace Book, Stanford > U. Press 1989 > Poetry and the Fate of the Senses, Susan Stewart, Poetry Essays, > University of Chicago Press 2002 > Theories & Documents of Contemporary Art: A Source Book of Artist's > Writings, Kristine Stiles & Peter Selz, eds., Art Essays U. of > California 1996 > The Three Perfections: Chinese Painting, Poetry, and Calligraphy, > Michael Sullivan, Poetry & Art, George Braziller 1999 > The Book of Forms: A Handbook of Poetics (3rd Edition), Lewis Turco, > Formalism/Metrics, U. of New England Press 2000 > 45 Contemporary Poems: The Creative Process, Albeta Turner, Poetry > Praxis, Longman 1985 > Lives of the Poets: The Story of One Thousand Years of English & > American Poetry, Louis Untermeyer, Short Biographical Essays, Replica > Books 1999 > Introduction to Poetry: Commentaries on Thirty Poems, Mark Van Doren, > Poetry Essays, Hill & Wang 1968 > Lives of the Artists, Giorgio Vasari (E. L. Seeley, trans.), Artist > Biographies, Noonday 1957 > Soul Says, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, Harvard U. Press 1995 > Words Chosen Out of Desire, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, U. of > Tenn. Press 1984 > Telling It Slant: Avant Garde Poetics in the 1990s, Mark Wallace, > Poetry Essays, U. of Alabama Press 2001 > Nineteen Ways of Looking at Wang Wei, Eliot Weinberger & Octavio Paz, > editors, Poetry Essay, Moyer Bell 1987 > Concepts of Criticism, Ren? Wellek, Literary Criticism, Yale U. Press 1963 > The Embodiment of Knowledge, William Carlos William, Poetry Essays, > New Directions 1974 > Selected Essays of William Carlos. Williams William Carlos, Poetry > Essays, New Directions 1969 > In Defense of Reason, Yvor Winters, Poetry Essays, U. of Denver Press 1937 > The Japanese Haiku, Kenneth Yasuda, Poetry Criticism, Chas. E. Tuttle 1957 > Essays & Introductions, W. B. Yeats, Literary Essays,Collier Books 1961 > A Defence of Ardor, Adam Zagajewski (Clare Cavanaugh, trans.), Poetry > and Art Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 2004 > Multum in Parvo: an essay in poetic imagination, Carl Zigrosser, > Poetry Essays, George Braziller 1965 > Lyrical Philosophy, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, U. of Toronto > Press 1992 > Wisdom & Metaphor, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, Gaspereau Press 2003 > Dictionary of World Literature, Poetry Reference > The Greenwood Encyclopedia of American Poetry, Poetry Reference > Rhyming Dictionary, Poetry Reference, Various Editions > nN > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at *AOL.com* > . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- Tad Richards http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ From Opus40-01 at opus40.org Wed Mar 28 23:16:19 2007 From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:16:19 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <460B2F83.4020407@opus40.org> And I'd throw in Umberto Eco -- On Literature and 6 Walks in the Fictional Woods jforjames at aol.com wrote: > A while back we had a thread that started under the caption "Books a > Poet Should Own" and evolved into the "Poet's Ideal Library." Margery > Snyde ( http://poetry.about.com/ ) reminded me that I promised to > compile a book list from the various posts. I did that. Edited it > somewhat, deleting those titles that seemed too far afield. And I > added a good number titles, concentrating on Essays > (poetry/art/aesthetics), Literary Criticism/Theory, Practical Texts > & Guidebooks (but not of an introductory nature) and a few other odd > titles. I decided not include Anthologies unless the > introductory/thesis esssay was as important as the poems collected in > support of the thesis. Similarly I neglected reference books that were > not directly related to poetry. > > Sorted alpha by author/editor, this list continues to be open to > suggestions/corrections and an impossible work in progress.... > > A Glossary of Literary Terms, M.H.Abrams, Literary Reference, Holt > Rinehart Winston 1988 > Selected Writing of Guillaume Apollinaire, Guillaume Apollinaire (R. > Shattuck, trans.), Poetry Essays, New Directions 1971 > The Poetics, Aristotle, Poetry Essays, Various Editions > Essays Literary & Critical by Matthew Arnold, Matthew Arnold, Poetry > Essays, JM Dent & Son 1906 > Poetic Rhythm: An Introduction, Derek Attridge, Formalism, Metrics, > Cambridge U. Press 1996 > The Dyer's Hand, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Forewords & Afterwords, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, Erich > Auerbach, Literary Criticism, Doubleday Anchor Books 1957 > The Poetics of Reverie, Gaston Bachelard, Philosophy/Aesthetics, > Beacon Press 1971 > The Poetics of Space, Gaston Bachelard (Maria Jolas, trans.), > Philosophy/Aesthetics ,Beacon Press 1969 > Onward: Contemporary Poetry & Poetics, Peter Baker, Poetry Essays, > Peter Lang Publishing 1996 > An Owen Barfield Reader Owen Barfield, Poetry Criticism, Wesleyan U. > Press 1999 > The Art of Writing: Teachings of the Chinese Masters, Tony Barnstone & > Chou Ping, trans., Poetry Essays, Shambhala 1996 > The Making of the Auden Canon , Jos. Warren Beach, Poetry Criticism, > Russell & Russell 1971 > Illuminations, Walter Benjamin, Literary Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 > Reflections, Walter Benjamin (Peter Demetz, ed.), Literary Criticism, > Schoken Books 1978 > Content's Dream, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Sun & Moon 1986 > A Poetics, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press 1992 > Anxiety of Influence (2nd edition), Harold Bloom, Literary Criticism, > Oxford U. Press 1987 > Leaping Poetry, Robert Bly, Poetry Essay & Anthology > News of the Universe, Robert Bly, Poetry Essays & Anthology, Sierra > Club Books 1980 > A Poet's Alphabet: Reflections on the Literary Art & Vocation, Louise > Bogan (Robt. Phelps & Ruth Limmer, eds.), Poetry Essays, McGraw Hill 1970 > Object Lessons, Eavan Boland, Poetry Essays, Norton 1995 > The Act and the Place of Poetry, Yves Bonnefoy, Poetry Essays, U. of > Chicago Press 1989 > Borges Selected Non-Fictions, Jorge Luis Borges, Poetry & Writing, > Penguin 2000 > Borges On Writing, Jorge Luis Borges (di Giovanni, Macshane, Halpern, > interviewers), Interviews, Ecco Press 1972 > In the Blue Pharmacy: Essays on Poetry and Other Transformations, > Marianne Boruch,Poetry Essays, Trinity U. Press 2005 > Yeats at Work, Curtis Bradford, ed., Poetry Manuscript Analysis, > Southern Illinois Univ. Press 1965 > The Well-Wrought Urn, Cleanth Brooks, Poetry Criticism, Harvest Books 1956 > The Main of Light: On the Concept of Poetry, Justus Buchler, > Philosophy, Oxford 1974 > The Philosophy of Literary Form: Studies in Symbolic Action, Kenneth > Burke, Essays: Poetry, Philosophy, Vintage 1941 > A Phlosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime and > Beautiful, Edmund Burke (J. T. Boulton, ed.), Philosophy/Aesthetics, > U. of Notre Dame Press 1968 > Selected Essays & Reviews, Hayden Carruth, Poetry Essays, Copper > Canyon 1996 > Language and Myth, Ernst Cassirer, Philosophy, Dover 1953 > How Does A Poem Mean, John Ciardi, Poetry Essays, Houghton Mifflin 1959 > Biographia Literaria, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Literary Essays, > Various Editions > The Language of Criticism & the Structure of Poetry, R.S. Crane, > Literary Criticism, U. of Toronto 1953 > Selected Writing of Charles Olson, Robert Creeley, editor, Poetry > Essays, New Directions 1966 > Poetry & Literature: An Introduction to Its Criticism and History, > Benedetto Croce (Giovanni Gullace, trans.), Literary Criticism, S. > Illinois U. Press 1981 > The Problem of Style, J.V. Cunningham, Literary Essays, Fawcett > Publications 1966 > Poetry As Persuasion, Carl Dennis, Poetry Essays, U. of Georgia Press 2001 > Poetry in our Time, Babette Deutsch, Poetry Criticism, Columbia U. > Press 1952 > Art as Experience, John Dewey, Philosophy, Perigree Books 1980 > Sorties, James Dickey, Poetry Essays, LSU Press 1971 > Walking Light, Stephen Dunn, Poetry Essays, Boa Editions 2001 > The Use of Poetry & the Use of Criticism, T.S. Eliot, Poetry > Criticism, Faber & Faber 1933 > The Modern Tradition, Richard Ellman & Chas. Fieldelson, Jr., eds., > Literary, Cultural & Art Essays,Oxford 1965 > Complete Essays & Other Writings by Ralph Waldo Emerson, Ralph Waldo > Emerson, Poetry Essays & Philosophy, Modern Library 1950 > Seven Types of Ambiguity, William Empson, Poetry Criticism, New > Directions 1966 > Expansive Poetry: Essays on the New Narrative and New Formalism, > Frederick Feirstein, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1989 > The Ghost of Meter: Culture & Prosody in American Free Verse, Annie > Finch, Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2000 > An Exaltation of Forms, Annie Finch & Katherine Varnes, eds., > Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2002 > Romantic Criticism 1800-1850, R.A. Foakes, ed., Poetry Essays. Arnold > Publishers 1968 > A Field Guide to Contemporary Poetics Stuart Friebert, David Walker & > David Young, eds., Poetry Essays, Oberlin College Press 1997 > Robert Frost on Writing, Robert Frost (Elaine Barry, editor), Poetry > Essays, Rutgers 1973 > Selected Prose of Robert Frost, Robert Frost (H. Cox & E.C. Lathem, > eds.), Collier Books 1968 > Feeling As A Foreign Language: The Good Strangeness of Poetry, Alice > Fulton, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1999 > Poetic Meter & Poetic Form (revised edition), Paul Fussell, > Formalism?Metrics, Random House 1979 > The Poet's Work: 29 Masters of the 20th Century Poetry on the Origin > and Practice of Their Art, Reginald Gibbons, ed., Poetry Essays, > Houghton Mifflin 1979 > Twentieth-Century American Poetics: Poets on the Art of Poetry, Dana > Gioia, David Mason & Meg Schoerke, eds., Poetics, McGraw Hill 2003 > Can Poetry Matter?: Essays on Poetry & American Culture, Dana Gioia, > Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1992 > Proofs & Theories, Louise Gl?ck,Poetry Essays. Ecco Press 1994 > The Collected Works: Essays on Art & Literature, Johann Wolfgang von > Goethe (John Gearey, editor), Essays: Art & Poetry, Princeton U. Press > 1986 > The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth, Robert Graves, > Poetry Essay, Farrar Straus Giroux 1966 > Oxford Addresses on Poetry, Robert Graves, Poetry Essays, Doubleday 1962 > The Sighted Singer: Two Works on Poetry for Readers and Writers, Allen > R. Grossman (Mark Halliday, interviewer), Poetics, Johns Hopkins U. > Press 1991 > Of Manywhere-at-Once, Bob Grumman, Poetry Essays > New Expansive Poetry, R.S. Gwynn, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press > 1995 > Goatfoot Milktongue Twinbird: Interviews, Essays, and Notes on Poetry, > 1970-76, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1978 > Poetry & Ambition, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1988 > Twentieth Century Pleasures, Robert Hass, Poetry Essays, Ecco Press 1984 > Robert Hayden: Collected Prose, Robert Hayden (F. Glaysher, ed.; > foreword by Wm. Meredith), Literary Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1984 > Preoccupations: Selected Prose 1968-78, Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, > Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > The Redress of Poetry. Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, Farrar Straus > Giroux 1995 > Poetry, Language, Thought, Martin Heidegger (trans. by Albert > Hofstadter), Philosophy, Harper Colophon Books 1975 > Strong Words: Modern Poets on Modern Poetry, W.N. Herbert & Matthew > Hollis, eds., Poetry Essays, Bloodaxe Books 2000 > Nine Gates: Entering the Mind of Poetry Jane Hirshfield Poetry Essays, > HarperCollins 1997 > Metre, Rhythm and Verse Form, Philip Hobsbaum, Formalism/ Metrics, > Routledge 1999 > Essentials Of Literary Criticism,Philip Hobsbaum, Poetry Criticism, 1983 > Tradition and Experiment in English Poetry, Philip Hobsbaum. Poetry > Criticism 1979 > Rhyme's Reason, John Hollander, Formalism/Metrics, Yale U. Press 1981 > My Emily Dickinson, Susan Howe, Poetry Criticism, North Atlantic Books > 1985 > Donald Justice in Conversation, Philip Hoy, interviewer, Interviews > The Triggering Town, Richard Hugo, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > Speculations: Essays on Humanism & Philsophy of Art, T.E. Hulme, > Philosophy Essays, Routledge & Kegan Paul 1987 > The Auden Generation, Samuel Hynes, Poetry Criticism, Princeton U. > Press 1982 > The Failure of Poetry, The Promise of Language, Laura (Riding) Jackson > (John Nolan, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan 2007 > The Instant of Knowing, Josephine Jacobsen, Poetry Essay, Library of > Congress (pamphlet) > The Reaper Essays, Mark Jarman & Robert McDowell, Poetry Essays, Story > Line Press 1996 > Kipling, Auden & Company: Essays & Reviews 1935-1964, Randall Jarrell, > Poetry Essays & Reviews, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > Poetry and The Age, Randall Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews. Vintage 1959 > The Complete Perfectionist: A Poetics of Work, Juan Ramon Jim?nez > (Christopher Maurer, trans. & ed.), Poetry Aphorisms, Doubleday 1997 > Donald Justice Reader, Donald Justice, Poetry Essays, University Press > of New England 2003 > The Pound Era, Hugh Kenner, Poetry Criticism, U. of California 1971 > The Romantic Image, Frank Kermode, Literary Criticism, Vintage 1964 > The Poetry of Criticism: Horace Epistles II and Ars Poetica, Rpss S. > Kirkpatrick, Poetry Criticism, U. of Alberta Press 1990 > Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, Melissa > Kwasny, ed., Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 2004 > Feeling and Form, Susanne K.Langer, Philosophy/Aesthetics , Chas. > Scribners 1953 > Paul Val?ry: An Anthology, James Lawler, editor, Art & Literary > Essays, Routledge 1977 > Russian Formalist Criticism: Four Essays, L.T. Lemon & M.J. Reis, > trans., Literary Criticism, U. of Nebraska Press 1965 > Light Up the Cave, Denise Levertov, Poetry New Directions > New & Selected Essays, Denise Levertov, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1992 > Stone Cottage: Pound, Yeats & Modernism James, Logenbach, Poetry > Criticism, Oxford 1998 > On the Sublime, Loginius, Aesthetics, Various Editions > In Search of Duende, Federico Garcia Lorca (N. T. DiGiovanni & C. > Maurer, trans.), Essays, New Directions 1999 > Poetry & Experience, Archibald MacLeish, Poetry Essays, Houghton > Mifflin 1960 > Creative Intuition in Art & Poetry, Jacques Maritain, Poetry & Art > Essays, Pantheon 1953 > Versification: A Short Introduction, James McAuley, Formalism/Metrics. > Michigan State U. Press 1966 > Worlds into Words: Understanding Modern Poems, Diane Middlebrook, > Poetry Criticism, Norton 1980 > The Witness of Poetry, Czeslaw Milosz, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press > 1983 > Selected Essays of Eugenio Montale, Eugenio Montale (Jonathan Galassi, > trans.), Poetry Essays, Ecco 1982 > Predilections: literary essays, Marianne Moore, Poetry Essays, Viking > Press 1955 > The Bedford Glossary of Critical & Literary Terms, Ross Murfin & > Supryia M. Ray, Literary Reference, Bedford 1997 > Basic Writings of Nietzsche, Friedrich Nietzsche, > Philosophy/Aesthetics, Modern Library 2000 > Rules for the Dance: Handbook for Writing & Reading Metrical Verse, > Mary Oliver, Formalism/Metrics, Mariner Books 1998 > A Poetry Handbook, Mary Oliver, Poetry Reference, Harvest Books 1994 > The Other Voice, Octavio Paz, Poetry Essays, Harvest Books 1992 > The Bow & the Lyre, Octavio Paz, U. of Texas Press 1973 > Poetics of Inderterminacy: Rimbaud to Cage, Majorie Perloff, Poetry > Criticism, Princeton U. Press 1981 > The Sounds of Poetry: A Brief Guide, Robert Pinsky, Formalism/Metrics, > Farrar Straus Giroux 1998 > Poetry And The World, Robert Pinsky, Poetry Criticism, Ecco Press 1988 > Selected Prose: 1909-1965, Ezra Pound, Literary Essays, New Directions > ABC of Reading, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1934 > Guide to Kulchur, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > Literary Essays Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > The Imagist Poem, William Pratt, ed., Poetry Criticism, Dutton > The Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetics (3rd Edition), Alex Preminger, > ed., Poetry Reference, Princeton U. Press 1993 > Like a Writer, Francine Prose, Writing Essays > Disjunctive Poetics: From Gertrude Stein and Louis Zukofsky to Susan > Howe, Peter Quatermain, Poetry Criticism, Cambridge 1992 > Exercises in Style, Raymond Queneau, Writing Essay in Versions of > Single Story, New Directions 1981 > Assays, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry & Literary Essays, New Directions 1961 > American Poetry in the Twentieth Century, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry > Essays, Continuum Book 1973 > Blood, Bread and Poetry: Selected Prose, 1979-1986, Adrienne Rich, > Poetry Essays, Norton 1986 > On Lies, Secrets and Silence: Selected Prose, 1966-1978, Adrienne > Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > What Is Found There: Notebooks on Poetry and Politics, Adrienne Rich, > Poetry Essays, Norton 1993 > Practical Criticism, I. A. Richards, Literary Criticism, Harvest Books > 1956 > Letters on Cezanne, Rainer Maria Rilke (ed. Clara Rilke; trans. by > Joel Agee), Art Essays, Fromme International 1985 > Where Silence Reigns: Selected Prose, Rainer Maria Rilke (G. Craig > Houston, trans.), Poetry Essays New Directions 1978 > Letters to a Young Poet Rainer Maria Rilke (M. D. Herter, trans.), > Poetry Essays, Norton 1934 > Straw for the Fire: From the Notebooks of Theodore Roethke 1943-1963, > Theodore Roethke (David Wagoner, ed.), Poet's Journal, Doubleday 1972 > On the Poet and His Craft: Selected Prose, Theodore Roethke (Ralph J. > Mills, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Washington Press 1965 > The Dream of the Marsh Wren, Patiann Rogers, Poetry Essays, Milkweed > Editions 1999 > The Modern Poetic Sequence, M.L.Rosenthal & Sally M. Gall, U. of > Oxford Press 1983 > The Life of Poetry, Muriel Rukeyser, Poetry Essays, Paris Press 1996 > The World of Poetry: Poets & Critics on the Art & Function of Poetry, > Clive Sansom, ed., Poetry Quotes, Phoenix House 1959 > Na?ve & Sentimental Poetry - On the Sublime, Friedrich von Schiller, > Philosophy, Poetry, Aesthetics, Frederick Ungar Publishing 1966 > Dialogue on Poetry and Literary Aphorisms, Friedrich Schlegel (trans. > by Behler & Struc), Poetics, Penn. St. Univ. Press 1968 > John Dryden on Dramatic Poetry and other critical essays, George > Watson, ed., Poetry Essays, J.M. Dent & Sons 1962 > Lives of the Poets, Michael Schmidt, Poetry Bios and Commentary, > Vintage 2000 > Schopenhauer: Essays & Aphorisms, Arthur Schopenhauer (RJ Hollingdale, > trans.), Philosophy Penguin 1970 > A Poet's Journal: Days of 1945-1951, George Seferis, Poet's Journal, > Belknap (Harvard U. Press) 1974 > Prose Keys to Modern Poetry, Karl Shapiro, ed., Poetry Essays, U. of > Nebraska Press 1962 > A Defence of Poetry, Sir Philip Sidney, Poetry Essay, Various Editions > Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry, G. Singh, Literary Criticism. U. of > Kentucky Press 1964 > A Poet's Notebook, Edith Sitwell, Poetry Quotes, Macmillan & Co. 1944 > De/Compositions, W.S. Snodgrass, Poetry Praxis, Graywolf Press 2001 > The Making of a Poem, Stephen Spender, Poetry Essays, Norton 1962 > House That Jack Built: Cthe Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer, Jack > Spicer (ed. Peter Gizzi), Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 1998 > Where The Angels Come Toward Us, David St. John, Poetry Essays, White > Pine Press 1995 > Apreciation: Paintin, Poetry and Prose, Leo Stein, Art Essays, Random > House 1947 > Writing the Australian Crawl, William Stafford, Poetry Essays, U. of > Michigan Press 1978 > Missing Measures: Moderh Poetry and the Revolt Against Meter, Timonthy > Steele, Poetry Essays, U. of Arkansas Press 1990 > How Writing is Written: Volume II of the Previously Uncollected > Writings, Gertrude Stein (Robert Bartlett Haas, ed.), Essays, Black > Sparrow Press 1974 > The Necessary Angel: Essays on Reality & the Imagination, Wallace > Stevens, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1951 > Sur Plusiers Beaux Sujects: Wallace Stevens' Commonplace Books, > Wallace Stevens (Milton Bates, ed.), Poet's Commonplace Book, Stanford > U. Press 1989 > Poetry and the Fate of the Senses, Susan Stewart, Poetry Essays, > University of Chicago Press 2002 > Theories & Documents of Contemporary Art: A Source Book of Artist's > Writings, Kristine Stiles & Peter Selz, eds., Art Essays U. of > California 1996 > The Three Perfections: Chinese Painting, Poetry, and Calligraphy, > Michael Sullivan, Poetry & Art, George Braziller 1999 > The Book of Forms: A Handbook of Poetics (3rd Edition), Lewis Turco, > Formalism/Metrics, U. of New England Press 2000 > 45 Contemporary Poems: The Creative Process, Albeta Turner, Poetry > Praxis, Longman 1985 > Lives of the Poets: The Story of One Thousand Years of English & > American Poetry, Louis Untermeyer, Short Biographical Essays, Replica > Books 1999 > Introduction to Poetry: Commentaries on Thirty Poems, Mark Van Doren, > Poetry Essays, Hill & Wang 1968 > Lives of the Artists, Giorgio Vasari (E. L. Seeley, trans.), Artist > Biographies, Noonday 1957 > Soul Says, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, Harvard U. Press 1995 > Words Chosen Out of Desire, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, U. of > Tenn. Press 1984 > Telling It Slant: Avant Garde Poetics in the 1990s, Mark Wallace, > Poetry Essays, U. of Alabama Press 2001 > Nineteen Ways of Looking at Wang Wei, Eliot Weinberger & Octavio Paz, > editors, Poetry Essay, Moyer Bell 1987 > Concepts of Criticism, Ren? Wellek, Literary Criticism, Yale U. Press 1963 > The Embodiment of Knowledge, William Carlos William, Poetry Essays, > New Directions 1974 > Selected Essays of William Carlos. Williams William Carlos, Poetry > Essays, New Directions 1969 > In Defense of Reason, Yvor Winters, Poetry Essays, U. of Denver Press 1937 > The Japanese Haiku, Kenneth Yasuda, Poetry Criticism, Chas. E. Tuttle 1957 > Essays & Introductions, W. B. Yeats, Literary Essays,Collier Books 1961 > A Defence of Ardor, Adam Zagajewski (Clare Cavanaugh, trans.), Poetry > and Art Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 2004 > Multum in Parvo: an essay in poetic imagination, Carl Zigrosser, > Poetry Essays, George Braziller 1965 > Lyrical Philosophy, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, U. of Toronto > Press 1992 > Wisdom & Metaphor, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, Gaspereau Press 2003 > Dictionary of World Literature, Poetry Reference > The Greenwood Encyclopedia of American Poetry, Poetry Reference > Rhyming Dictionary, Poetry Reference, Various Editions > nN > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at *AOL.com* > . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- Tad Richards http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ From Opus40-01 at opus40.org Wed Mar 28 23:17:08 2007 From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:17:08 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <460B2FB4.8090601@opus40.org> And...great job, Jim. jforjames at aol.com wrote: > A while back we had a thread that started under the caption "Books a > Poet Should Own" and evolved into the "Poet's Ideal Library." Margery > Snyde ( http://poetry.about.com/ ) reminded me that I promised to > compile a book list from the various posts. I did that. Edited it > somewhat, deleting those titles that seemed too far afield. And I > added a good number titles, concentrating on Essays > (poetry/art/aesthetics), Literary Criticism/Theory, Practical Texts > & Guidebooks (but not of an introductory nature) and a few other odd > titles. I decided not include Anthologies unless the > introductory/thesis esssay was as important as the poems collected in > support of the thesis. Similarly I neglected reference books that were > not directly related to poetry. > > Sorted alpha by author/editor, this list continues to be open to > suggestions/corrections and an impossible work in progress.... > > A Glossary of Literary Terms, M.H.Abrams, Literary Reference, Holt > Rinehart Winston 1988 > Selected Writing of Guillaume Apollinaire, Guillaume Apollinaire (R. > Shattuck, trans.), Poetry Essays, New Directions 1971 > The Poetics, Aristotle, Poetry Essays, Various Editions > Essays Literary & Critical by Matthew Arnold, Matthew Arnold, Poetry > Essays, JM Dent & Son 1906 > Poetic Rhythm: An Introduction, Derek Attridge, Formalism, Metrics, > Cambridge U. Press 1996 > The Dyer's Hand, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Forewords & Afterwords, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, Erich > Auerbach, Literary Criticism, Doubleday Anchor Books 1957 > The Poetics of Reverie, Gaston Bachelard, Philosophy/Aesthetics, > Beacon Press 1971 > The Poetics of Space, Gaston Bachelard (Maria Jolas, trans.), > Philosophy/Aesthetics ,Beacon Press 1969 > Onward: Contemporary Poetry & Poetics, Peter Baker, Poetry Essays, > Peter Lang Publishing 1996 > An Owen Barfield Reader Owen Barfield, Poetry Criticism, Wesleyan U. > Press 1999 > The Art of Writing: Teachings of the Chinese Masters, Tony Barnstone & > Chou Ping, trans., Poetry Essays, Shambhala 1996 > The Making of the Auden Canon , Jos. Warren Beach, Poetry Criticism, > Russell & Russell 1971 > Illuminations, Walter Benjamin, Literary Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 > Reflections, Walter Benjamin (Peter Demetz, ed.), Literary Criticism, > Schoken Books 1978 > Content's Dream, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Sun & Moon 1986 > A Poetics, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press 1992 > Anxiety of Influence (2nd edition), Harold Bloom, Literary Criticism, > Oxford U. Press 1987 > Leaping Poetry, Robert Bly, Poetry Essay & Anthology > News of the Universe, Robert Bly, Poetry Essays & Anthology, Sierra > Club Books 1980 > A Poet's Alphabet: Reflections on the Literary Art & Vocation, Louise > Bogan (Robt. Phelps & Ruth Limmer, eds.), Poetry Essays, McGraw Hill 1970 > Object Lessons, Eavan Boland, Poetry Essays, Norton 1995 > The Act and the Place of Poetry, Yves Bonnefoy, Poetry Essays, U. of > Chicago Press 1989 > Borges Selected Non-Fictions, Jorge Luis Borges, Poetry & Writing, > Penguin 2000 > Borges On Writing, Jorge Luis Borges (di Giovanni, Macshane, Halpern, > interviewers), Interviews, Ecco Press 1972 > In the Blue Pharmacy: Essays on Poetry and Other Transformations, > Marianne Boruch,Poetry Essays, Trinity U. Press 2005 > Yeats at Work, Curtis Bradford, ed., Poetry Manuscript Analysis, > Southern Illinois Univ. Press 1965 > The Well-Wrought Urn, Cleanth Brooks, Poetry Criticism, Harvest Books 1956 > The Main of Light: On the Concept of Poetry, Justus Buchler, > Philosophy, Oxford 1974 > The Philosophy of Literary Form: Studies in Symbolic Action, Kenneth > Burke, Essays: Poetry, Philosophy, Vintage 1941 > A Phlosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime and > Beautiful, Edmund Burke (J. T. Boulton, ed.), Philosophy/Aesthetics, > U. of Notre Dame Press 1968 > Selected Essays & Reviews, Hayden Carruth, Poetry Essays, Copper > Canyon 1996 > Language and Myth, Ernst Cassirer, Philosophy, Dover 1953 > How Does A Poem Mean, John Ciardi, Poetry Essays, Houghton Mifflin 1959 > Biographia Literaria, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Literary Essays, > Various Editions > The Language of Criticism & the Structure of Poetry, R.S. Crane, > Literary Criticism, U. of Toronto 1953 > Selected Writing of Charles Olson, Robert Creeley, editor, Poetry > Essays, New Directions 1966 > Poetry & Literature: An Introduction to Its Criticism and History, > Benedetto Croce (Giovanni Gullace, trans.), Literary Criticism, S. > Illinois U. Press 1981 > The Problem of Style, J.V. Cunningham, Literary Essays, Fawcett > Publications 1966 > Poetry As Persuasion, Carl Dennis, Poetry Essays, U. of Georgia Press 2001 > Poetry in our Time, Babette Deutsch, Poetry Criticism, Columbia U. > Press 1952 > Art as Experience, John Dewey, Philosophy, Perigree Books 1980 > Sorties, James Dickey, Poetry Essays, LSU Press 1971 > Walking Light, Stephen Dunn, Poetry Essays, Boa Editions 2001 > The Use of Poetry & the Use of Criticism, T.S. Eliot, Poetry > Criticism, Faber & Faber 1933 > The Modern Tradition, Richard Ellman & Chas. Fieldelson, Jr., eds., > Literary, Cultural & Art Essays,Oxford 1965 > Complete Essays & Other Writings by Ralph Waldo Emerson, Ralph Waldo > Emerson, Poetry Essays & Philosophy, Modern Library 1950 > Seven Types of Ambiguity, William Empson, Poetry Criticism, New > Directions 1966 > Expansive Poetry: Essays on the New Narrative and New Formalism, > Frederick Feirstein, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1989 > The Ghost of Meter: Culture & Prosody in American Free Verse, Annie > Finch, Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2000 > An Exaltation of Forms, Annie Finch & Katherine Varnes, eds., > Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2002 > Romantic Criticism 1800-1850, R.A. Foakes, ed., Poetry Essays. Arnold > Publishers 1968 > A Field Guide to Contemporary Poetics Stuart Friebert, David Walker & > David Young, eds., Poetry Essays, Oberlin College Press 1997 > Robert Frost on Writing, Robert Frost (Elaine Barry, editor), Poetry > Essays, Rutgers 1973 > Selected Prose of Robert Frost, Robert Frost (H. Cox & E.C. Lathem, > eds.), Collier Books 1968 > Feeling As A Foreign Language: The Good Strangeness of Poetry, Alice > Fulton, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1999 > Poetic Meter & Poetic Form (revised edition), Paul Fussell, > Formalism?Metrics, Random House 1979 > The Poet's Work: 29 Masters of the 20th Century Poetry on the Origin > and Practice of Their Art, Reginald Gibbons, ed., Poetry Essays, > Houghton Mifflin 1979 > Twentieth-Century American Poetics: Poets on the Art of Poetry, Dana > Gioia, David Mason & Meg Schoerke, eds., Poetics, McGraw Hill 2003 > Can Poetry Matter?: Essays on Poetry & American Culture, Dana Gioia, > Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1992 > Proofs & Theories, Louise Gl?ck,Poetry Essays. Ecco Press 1994 > The Collected Works: Essays on Art & Literature, Johann Wolfgang von > Goethe (John Gearey, editor), Essays: Art & Poetry, Princeton U. Press > 1986 > The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth, Robert Graves, > Poetry Essay, Farrar Straus Giroux 1966 > Oxford Addresses on Poetry, Robert Graves, Poetry Essays, Doubleday 1962 > The Sighted Singer: Two Works on Poetry for Readers and Writers, Allen > R. Grossman (Mark Halliday, interviewer), Poetics, Johns Hopkins U. > Press 1991 > Of Manywhere-at-Once, Bob Grumman, Poetry Essays > New Expansive Poetry, R.S. Gwynn, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press > 1995 > Goatfoot Milktongue Twinbird: Interviews, Essays, and Notes on Poetry, > 1970-76, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1978 > Poetry & Ambition, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1988 > Twentieth Century Pleasures, Robert Hass, Poetry Essays, Ecco Press 1984 > Robert Hayden: Collected Prose, Robert Hayden (F. Glaysher, ed.; > foreword by Wm. Meredith), Literary Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1984 > Preoccupations: Selected Prose 1968-78, Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, > Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > The Redress of Poetry. Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, Farrar Straus > Giroux 1995 > Poetry, Language, Thought, Martin Heidegger (trans. by Albert > Hofstadter), Philosophy, Harper Colophon Books 1975 > Strong Words: Modern Poets on Modern Poetry, W.N. Herbert & Matthew > Hollis, eds., Poetry Essays, Bloodaxe Books 2000 > Nine Gates: Entering the Mind of Poetry Jane Hirshfield Poetry Essays, > HarperCollins 1997 > Metre, Rhythm and Verse Form, Philip Hobsbaum, Formalism/ Metrics, > Routledge 1999 > Essentials Of Literary Criticism,Philip Hobsbaum, Poetry Criticism, 1983 > Tradition and Experiment in English Poetry, Philip Hobsbaum. Poetry > Criticism 1979 > Rhyme's Reason, John Hollander, Formalism/Metrics, Yale U. Press 1981 > My Emily Dickinson, Susan Howe, Poetry Criticism, North Atlantic Books > 1985 > Donald Justice in Conversation, Philip Hoy, interviewer, Interviews > The Triggering Town, Richard Hugo, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > Speculations: Essays on Humanism & Philsophy of Art, T.E. Hulme, > Philosophy Essays, Routledge & Kegan Paul 1987 > The Auden Generation, Samuel Hynes, Poetry Criticism, Princeton U. > Press 1982 > The Failure of Poetry, The Promise of Language, Laura (Riding) Jackson > (John Nolan, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan 2007 > The Instant of Knowing, Josephine Jacobsen, Poetry Essay, Library of > Congress (pamphlet) > The Reaper Essays, Mark Jarman & Robert McDowell, Poetry Essays, Story > Line Press 1996 > Kipling, Auden & Company: Essays & Reviews 1935-1964, Randall Jarrell, > Poetry Essays & Reviews, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > Poetry and The Age, Randall Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews. Vintage 1959 > The Complete Perfectionist: A Poetics of Work, Juan Ramon Jim?nez > (Christopher Maurer, trans. & ed.), Poetry Aphorisms, Doubleday 1997 > Donald Justice Reader, Donald Justice, Poetry Essays, University Press > of New England 2003 > The Pound Era, Hugh Kenner, Poetry Criticism, U. of California 1971 > The Romantic Image, Frank Kermode, Literary Criticism, Vintage 1964 > The Poetry of Criticism: Horace Epistles II and Ars Poetica, Rpss S. > Kirkpatrick, Poetry Criticism, U. of Alberta Press 1990 > Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, Melissa > Kwasny, ed., Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 2004 > Feeling and Form, Susanne K.Langer, Philosophy/Aesthetics , Chas. > Scribners 1953 > Paul Val?ry: An Anthology, James Lawler, editor, Art & Literary > Essays, Routledge 1977 > Russian Formalist Criticism: Four Essays, L.T. Lemon & M.J. Reis, > trans., Literary Criticism, U. of Nebraska Press 1965 > Light Up the Cave, Denise Levertov, Poetry New Directions > New & Selected Essays, Denise Levertov, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1992 > Stone Cottage: Pound, Yeats & Modernism James, Logenbach, Poetry > Criticism, Oxford 1998 > On the Sublime, Loginius, Aesthetics, Various Editions > In Search of Duende, Federico Garcia Lorca (N. T. DiGiovanni & C. > Maurer, trans.), Essays, New Directions 1999 > Poetry & Experience, Archibald MacLeish, Poetry Essays, Houghton > Mifflin 1960 > Creative Intuition in Art & Poetry, Jacques Maritain, Poetry & Art > Essays, Pantheon 1953 > Versification: A Short Introduction, James McAuley, Formalism/Metrics. > Michigan State U. Press 1966 > Worlds into Words: Understanding Modern Poems, Diane Middlebrook, > Poetry Criticism, Norton 1980 > The Witness of Poetry, Czeslaw Milosz, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press > 1983 > Selected Essays of Eugenio Montale, Eugenio Montale (Jonathan Galassi, > trans.), Poetry Essays, Ecco 1982 > Predilections: literary essays, Marianne Moore, Poetry Essays, Viking > Press 1955 > The Bedford Glossary of Critical & Literary Terms, Ross Murfin & > Supryia M. Ray, Literary Reference, Bedford 1997 > Basic Writings of Nietzsche, Friedrich Nietzsche, > Philosophy/Aesthetics, Modern Library 2000 > Rules for the Dance: Handbook for Writing & Reading Metrical Verse, > Mary Oliver, Formalism/Metrics, Mariner Books 1998 > A Poetry Handbook, Mary Oliver, Poetry Reference, Harvest Books 1994 > The Other Voice, Octavio Paz, Poetry Essays, Harvest Books 1992 > The Bow & the Lyre, Octavio Paz, U. of Texas Press 1973 > Poetics of Inderterminacy: Rimbaud to Cage, Majorie Perloff, Poetry > Criticism, Princeton U. Press 1981 > The Sounds of Poetry: A Brief Guide, Robert Pinsky, Formalism/Metrics, > Farrar Straus Giroux 1998 > Poetry And The World, Robert Pinsky, Poetry Criticism, Ecco Press 1988 > Selected Prose: 1909-1965, Ezra Pound, Literary Essays, New Directions > ABC of Reading, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1934 > Guide to Kulchur, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > Literary Essays Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > The Imagist Poem, William Pratt, ed., Poetry Criticism, Dutton > The Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetics (3rd Edition), Alex Preminger, > ed., Poetry Reference, Princeton U. Press 1993 > Like a Writer, Francine Prose, Writing Essays > Disjunctive Poetics: From Gertrude Stein and Louis Zukofsky to Susan > Howe, Peter Quatermain, Poetry Criticism, Cambridge 1992 > Exercises in Style, Raymond Queneau, Writing Essay in Versions of > Single Story, New Directions 1981 > Assays, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry & Literary Essays, New Directions 1961 > American Poetry in the Twentieth Century, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry > Essays, Continuum Book 1973 > Blood, Bread and Poetry: Selected Prose, 1979-1986, Adrienne Rich, > Poetry Essays, Norton 1986 > On Lies, Secrets and Silence: Selected Prose, 1966-1978, Adrienne > Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > What Is Found There: Notebooks on Poetry and Politics, Adrienne Rich, > Poetry Essays, Norton 1993 > Practical Criticism, I. A. Richards, Literary Criticism, Harvest Books > 1956 > Letters on Cezanne, Rainer Maria Rilke (ed. Clara Rilke; trans. by > Joel Agee), Art Essays, Fromme International 1985 > Where Silence Reigns: Selected Prose, Rainer Maria Rilke (G. Craig > Houston, trans.), Poetry Essays New Directions 1978 > Letters to a Young Poet Rainer Maria Rilke (M. D. Herter, trans.), > Poetry Essays, Norton 1934 > Straw for the Fire: From the Notebooks of Theodore Roethke 1943-1963, > Theodore Roethke (David Wagoner, ed.), Poet's Journal, Doubleday 1972 > On the Poet and His Craft: Selected Prose, Theodore Roethke (Ralph J. > Mills, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Washington Press 1965 > The Dream of the Marsh Wren, Patiann Rogers, Poetry Essays, Milkweed > Editions 1999 > The Modern Poetic Sequence, M.L.Rosenthal & Sally M. Gall, U. of > Oxford Press 1983 > The Life of Poetry, Muriel Rukeyser, Poetry Essays, Paris Press 1996 > The World of Poetry: Poets & Critics on the Art & Function of Poetry, > Clive Sansom, ed., Poetry Quotes, Phoenix House 1959 > Na?ve & Sentimental Poetry - On the Sublime, Friedrich von Schiller, > Philosophy, Poetry, Aesthetics, Frederick Ungar Publishing 1966 > Dialogue on Poetry and Literary Aphorisms, Friedrich Schlegel (trans. > by Behler & Struc), Poetics, Penn. St. Univ. Press 1968 > John Dryden on Dramatic Poetry and other critical essays, George > Watson, ed., Poetry Essays, J.M. Dent & Sons 1962 > Lives of the Poets, Michael Schmidt, Poetry Bios and Commentary, > Vintage 2000 > Schopenhauer: Essays & Aphorisms, Arthur Schopenhauer (RJ Hollingdale, > trans.), Philosophy Penguin 1970 > A Poet's Journal: Days of 1945-1951, George Seferis, Poet's Journal, > Belknap (Harvard U. Press) 1974 > Prose Keys to Modern Poetry, Karl Shapiro, ed., Poetry Essays, U. of > Nebraska Press 1962 > A Defence of Poetry, Sir Philip Sidney, Poetry Essay, Various Editions > Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry, G. Singh, Literary Criticism. U. of > Kentucky Press 1964 > A Poet's Notebook, Edith Sitwell, Poetry Quotes, Macmillan & Co. 1944 > De/Compositions, W.S. Snodgrass, Poetry Praxis, Graywolf Press 2001 > The Making of a Poem, Stephen Spender, Poetry Essays, Norton 1962 > House That Jack Built: Cthe Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer, Jack > Spicer (ed. Peter Gizzi), Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 1998 > Where The Angels Come Toward Us, David St. John, Poetry Essays, White > Pine Press 1995 > Apreciation: Paintin, Poetry and Prose, Leo Stein, Art Essays, Random > House 1947 > Writing the Australian Crawl, William Stafford, Poetry Essays, U. of > Michigan Press 1978 > Missing Measures: Moderh Poetry and the Revolt Against Meter, Timonthy > Steele, Poetry Essays, U. of Arkansas Press 1990 > How Writing is Written: Volume II of the Previously Uncollected > Writings, Gertrude Stein (Robert Bartlett Haas, ed.), Essays, Black > Sparrow Press 1974 > The Necessary Angel: Essays on Reality & the Imagination, Wallace > Stevens, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1951 > Sur Plusiers Beaux Sujects: Wallace Stevens' Commonplace Books, > Wallace Stevens (Milton Bates, ed.), Poet's Commonplace Book, Stanford > U. Press 1989 > Poetry and the Fate of the Senses, Susan Stewart, Poetry Essays, > University of Chicago Press 2002 > Theories & Documents of Contemporary Art: A Source Book of Artist's > Writings, Kristine Stiles & Peter Selz, eds., Art Essays U. of > California 1996 > The Three Perfections: Chinese Painting, Poetry, and Calligraphy, > Michael Sullivan, Poetry & Art, George Braziller 1999 > The Book of Forms: A Handbook of Poetics (3rd Edition), Lewis Turco, > Formalism/Metrics, U. of New England Press 2000 > 45 Contemporary Poems: The Creative Process, Albeta Turner, Poetry > Praxis, Longman 1985 > Lives of the Poets: The Story of One Thousand Years of English & > American Poetry, Louis Untermeyer, Short Biographical Essays, Replica > Books 1999 > Introduction to Poetry: Commentaries on Thirty Poems, Mark Van Doren, > Poetry Essays, Hill & Wang 1968 > Lives of the Artists, Giorgio Vasari (E. L. Seeley, trans.), Artist > Biographies, Noonday 1957 > Soul Says, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, Harvard U. Press 1995 > Words Chosen Out of Desire, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, U. of > Tenn. Press 1984 > Telling It Slant: Avant Garde Poetics in the 1990s, Mark Wallace, > Poetry Essays, U. of Alabama Press 2001 > Nineteen Ways of Looking at Wang Wei, Eliot Weinberger & Octavio Paz, > editors, Poetry Essay, Moyer Bell 1987 > Concepts of Criticism, Ren? Wellek, Literary Criticism, Yale U. Press 1963 > The Embodiment of Knowledge, William Carlos William, Poetry Essays, > New Directions 1974 > Selected Essays of William Carlos. Williams William Carlos, Poetry > Essays, New Directions 1969 > In Defense of Reason, Yvor Winters, Poetry Essays, U. of Denver Press 1937 > The Japanese Haiku, Kenneth Yasuda, Poetry Criticism, Chas. E. Tuttle 1957 > Essays & Introductions, W. B. Yeats, Literary Essays,Collier Books 1961 > A Defence of Ardor, Adam Zagajewski (Clare Cavanaugh, trans.), Poetry > and Art Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 2004 > Multum in Parvo: an essay in poetic imagination, Carl Zigrosser, > Poetry Essays, George Braziller 1965 > Lyrical Philosophy, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, U. of Toronto > Press 1992 > Wisdom & Metaphor, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, Gaspereau Press 2003 > Dictionary of World Literature, Poetry Reference > The Greenwood Encyclopedia of American Poetry, Poetry Reference > Rhyming Dictionary, Poetry Reference, Various Editions > nN > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at *AOL.com* > . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- Tad Richards http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ From jeff.newberry at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 23:32:01 2007 From: jeff.newberry at gmail.com (Jeff Newberry) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:32:01 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <460B2FB4.8090601@opus40.org> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> <460B2FB4.8090601@opus40.org> Message-ID: <731bb17a0703282032ted78917r465a5047f7dacca8@mail.gmail.com> Hear, hear. Thanks so much for this Jim. What an invaluable resource. Best, Jeff Newberry On 3/28/07, TheOldMole wrote: > > And...great job, Jim. > > jforjames at aol.com wrote: > > A while back we had a thread that started under the caption "Books a > > Poet Should Own" and evolved into the "Poet's Ideal Library." Margery > > Snyde ( http://poetry.about.com/ ) reminded me that I promised to > > compile a book list from the various posts. I did that. Edited it > > somewhat, deleting those titles that seemed too far afield. And I > > added a good number titles, concentrating on Essays > > (poetry/art/aesthetics), Literary Criticism/Theory, Practical Texts > > & Guidebooks (but not of an introductory nature) and a few other odd > > titles. I decided not include Anthologies unless the > > introductory/thesis esssay was as important as the poems collected in > > support of the thesis. Similarly I neglected reference books that were > > not directly related to poetry. > > > > Sorted alpha by author/editor, this list continues to be open to > > suggestions/corrections and an impossible work in progress.... > > > > A Glossary of Literary Terms, M.H.Abrams, Literary Reference, Holt > > Rinehart Winston 1988 > > Selected Writing of Guillaume Apollinaire, Guillaume Apollinaire (R. > > Shattuck, trans.), Poetry Essays, New Directions 1971 > > The Poetics, Aristotle, Poetry Essays, Various Editions > > Essays Literary & Critical by Matthew Arnold, Matthew Arnold, Poetry > > Essays, JM Dent & Son 1906 > > Poetic Rhythm: An Introduction, Derek Attridge, Formalism, Metrics, > > Cambridge U. Press 1996 > > The Dyer's Hand, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > > Forewords & Afterwords, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > > Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, Erich > > Auerbach, Literary Criticism, Doubleday Anchor Books 1957 > > The Poetics of Reverie, Gaston Bachelard, Philosophy/Aesthetics, > > Beacon Press 1971 > > The Poetics of Space, Gaston Bachelard (Maria Jolas, trans.), > > Philosophy/Aesthetics ,Beacon Press 1969 > > Onward: Contemporary Poetry & Poetics, Peter Baker, Poetry Essays, > > Peter Lang Publishing 1996 > > An Owen Barfield Reader Owen Barfield, Poetry Criticism, Wesleyan U. > > Press 1999 > > The Art of Writing: Teachings of the Chinese Masters, Tony Barnstone & > > Chou Ping, trans., Poetry Essays, Shambhala 1996 > > The Making of the Auden Canon , Jos. Warren Beach, Poetry Criticism, > > Russell & Russell 1971 > > Illuminations, Walter Benjamin, Literary Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 > > Reflections, Walter Benjamin (Peter Demetz, ed.), Literary Criticism, > > Schoken Books 1978 > > Content's Dream, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Sun & Moon 1986 > > A Poetics, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press 1992 > > Anxiety of Influence (2nd edition), Harold Bloom, Literary Criticism, > > Oxford U. Press 1987 > > Leaping Poetry, Robert Bly, Poetry Essay & Anthology > > News of the Universe, Robert Bly, Poetry Essays & Anthology, Sierra > > Club Books 1980 > > A Poet's Alphabet: Reflections on the Literary Art & Vocation, Louise > > Bogan (Robt. Phelps & Ruth Limmer, eds.), Poetry Essays, McGraw Hill > 1970 > > Object Lessons, Eavan Boland, Poetry Essays, Norton 1995 > > The Act and the Place of Poetry, Yves Bonnefoy, Poetry Essays, U. of > > Chicago Press 1989 > > Borges Selected Non-Fictions, Jorge Luis Borges, Poetry & Writing, > > Penguin 2000 > > Borges On Writing, Jorge Luis Borges (di Giovanni, Macshane, Halpern, > > interviewers), Interviews, Ecco Press 1972 > > In the Blue Pharmacy: Essays on Poetry and Other Transformations, > > Marianne Boruch,Poetry Essays, Trinity U. Press 2005 > > Yeats at Work, Curtis Bradford, ed., Poetry Manuscript Analysis, > > Southern Illinois Univ. Press 1965 > > The Well-Wrought Urn, Cleanth Brooks, Poetry Criticism, Harvest Books > 1956 > > The Main of Light: On the Concept of Poetry, Justus Buchler, > > Philosophy, Oxford 1974 > > The Philosophy of Literary Form: Studies in Symbolic Action, Kenneth > > Burke, Essays: Poetry, Philosophy, Vintage 1941 > > A Phlosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime and > > Beautiful, Edmund Burke (J. T. Boulton, ed.), Philosophy/Aesthetics, > > U. of Notre Dame Press 1968 > > Selected Essays & Reviews, Hayden Carruth, Poetry Essays, Copper > > Canyon 1996 > > Language and Myth, Ernst Cassirer, Philosophy, Dover 1953 > > How Does A Poem Mean, John Ciardi, Poetry Essays, Houghton Mifflin 1959 > > Biographia Literaria, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Literary Essays, > > Various Editions > > The Language of Criticism & the Structure of Poetry, R.S. Crane, > > Literary Criticism, U. of Toronto 1953 > > Selected Writing of Charles Olson, Robert Creeley, editor, Poetry > > Essays, New Directions 1966 > > Poetry & Literature: An Introduction to Its Criticism and History, > > Benedetto Croce (Giovanni Gullace, trans.), Literary Criticism, S. > > Illinois U. Press 1981 > > The Problem of Style, J.V. Cunningham, Literary Essays, Fawcett > > Publications 1966 > > Poetry As Persuasion, Carl Dennis, Poetry Essays, U. of Georgia Press > 2001 > > Poetry in our Time, Babette Deutsch, Poetry Criticism, Columbia U. > > Press 1952 > > Art as Experience, John Dewey, Philosophy, Perigree Books 1980 > > Sorties, James Dickey, Poetry Essays, LSU Press 1971 > > Walking Light, Stephen Dunn, Poetry Essays, Boa Editions 2001 > > The Use of Poetry & the Use of Criticism, T.S. Eliot, Poetry > > Criticism, Faber & Faber 1933 > > The Modern Tradition, Richard Ellman & Chas. Fieldelson, Jr., eds., > > Literary, Cultural & Art Essays,Oxford 1965 > > Complete Essays & Other Writings by Ralph Waldo Emerson, Ralph Waldo > > Emerson, Poetry Essays & Philosophy, Modern Library 1950 > > Seven Types of Ambiguity, William Empson, Poetry Criticism, New > > Directions 1966 > > Expansive Poetry: Essays on the New Narrative and New Formalism, > > Frederick Feirstein, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1989 > > The Ghost of Meter: Culture & Prosody in American Free Verse, Annie > > Finch, Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2000 > > An Exaltation of Forms, Annie Finch & Katherine Varnes, eds., > > Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2002 > > Romantic Criticism 1800-1850, R.A. Foakes, ed., Poetry Essays. Arnold > > Publishers 1968 > > A Field Guide to Contemporary Poetics Stuart Friebert, David Walker & > > David Young, eds., Poetry Essays, Oberlin College Press 1997 > > Robert Frost on Writing, Robert Frost (Elaine Barry, editor), Poetry > > Essays, Rutgers 1973 > > Selected Prose of Robert Frost, Robert Frost (H. Cox & E.C. Lathem, > > eds.), Collier Books 1968 > > Feeling As A Foreign Language: The Good Strangeness of Poetry, Alice > > Fulton, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1999 > > Poetic Meter & Poetic Form (revised edition), Paul Fussell, > > Formalism?Metrics, Random House 1979 > > The Poet's Work: 29 Masters of the 20th Century Poetry on the Origin > > and Practice of Their Art, Reginald Gibbons, ed., Poetry Essays, > > Houghton Mifflin 1979 > > Twentieth-Century American Poetics: Poets on the Art of Poetry, Dana > > Gioia, David Mason & Meg Schoerke, eds., Poetics, McGraw Hill 2003 > > Can Poetry Matter?: Essays on Poetry & American Culture, Dana Gioia, > > Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1992 > > Proofs & Theories, Louise Gl?ck,Poetry Essays. Ecco Press 1994 > > The Collected Works: Essays on Art & Literature, Johann Wolfgang von > > Goethe (John Gearey, editor), Essays: Art & Poetry, Princeton U. Press > > 1986 > > The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth, Robert Graves, > > Poetry Essay, Farrar Straus Giroux 1966 > > Oxford Addresses on Poetry, Robert Graves, Poetry Essays, Doubleday 1962 > > The Sighted Singer: Two Works on Poetry for Readers and Writers, Allen > > R. Grossman (Mark Halliday, interviewer), Poetics, Johns Hopkins U. > > Press 1991 > > Of Manywhere-at-Once, Bob Grumman, Poetry Essays > > New Expansive Poetry, R.S. Gwynn, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press > > 1995 > > Goatfoot Milktongue Twinbird: Interviews, Essays, and Notes on Poetry, > > 1970-76, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1978 > > Poetry & Ambition, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1988 > > Twentieth Century Pleasures, Robert Hass, Poetry Essays, Ecco Press 1984 > > Robert Hayden: Collected Prose, Robert Hayden (F. Glaysher, ed.; > > foreword by Wm. Meredith), Literary Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1984 > > Preoccupations: Selected Prose 1968-78, Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, > > Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > > The Redress of Poetry. Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, Farrar Straus > > Giroux 1995 > > Poetry, Language, Thought, Martin Heidegger (trans. by Albert > > Hofstadter), Philosophy, Harper Colophon Books 1975 > > Strong Words: Modern Poets on Modern Poetry, W.N. Herbert & Matthew > > Hollis, eds., Poetry Essays, Bloodaxe Books 2000 > > Nine Gates: Entering the Mind of Poetry Jane Hirshfield Poetry Essays, > > HarperCollins 1997 > > Metre, Rhythm and Verse Form, Philip Hobsbaum, Formalism/ Metrics, > > Routledge 1999 > > Essentials Of Literary Criticism,Philip Hobsbaum, Poetry Criticism, 1983 > > Tradition and Experiment in English Poetry, Philip Hobsbaum. Poetry > > Criticism 1979 > > Rhyme's Reason, John Hollander, Formalism/Metrics, Yale U. Press 1981 > > My Emily Dickinson, Susan Howe, Poetry Criticism, North Atlantic Books > > 1985 > > Donald Justice in Conversation, Philip Hoy, interviewer, Interviews > > The Triggering Town, Richard Hugo, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > > Speculations: Essays on Humanism & Philsophy of Art, T.E. Hulme, > > Philosophy Essays, Routledge & Kegan Paul 1987 > > The Auden Generation, Samuel Hynes, Poetry Criticism, Princeton U. > > Press 1982 > > The Failure of Poetry, The Promise of Language, Laura (Riding) Jackson > > (John Nolan, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan 2007 > > The Instant of Knowing, Josephine Jacobsen, Poetry Essay, Library of > > Congress (pamphlet) > > The Reaper Essays, Mark Jarman & Robert McDowell, Poetry Essays, Story > > Line Press 1996 > > Kipling, Auden & Company: Essays & Reviews 1935-1964, Randall Jarrell, > > Poetry Essays & Reviews, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > > Poetry and The Age, Randall Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews. Vintage > 1959 > > The Complete Perfectionist: A Poetics of Work, Juan Ramon Jim?nez > > (Christopher Maurer, trans. & ed.), Poetry Aphorisms, Doubleday 1997 > > Donald Justice Reader, Donald Justice, Poetry Essays, University Press > > of New England 2003 > > The Pound Era, Hugh Kenner, Poetry Criticism, U. of California 1971 > > The Romantic Image, Frank Kermode, Literary Criticism, Vintage 1964 > > The Poetry of Criticism: Horace Epistles II and Ars Poetica, Rpss S. > > Kirkpatrick, Poetry Criticism, U. of Alberta Press 1990 > > Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, Melissa > > Kwasny, ed., Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 2004 > > Feeling and Form, Susanne K.Langer, Philosophy/Aesthetics , Chas. > > Scribners 1953 > > Paul Val?ry: An Anthology, James Lawler, editor, Art & Literary > > Essays, Routledge 1977 > > Russian Formalist Criticism: Four Essays, L.T. Lemon & M.J. Reis, > > trans., Literary Criticism, U. of Nebraska Press 1965 > > Light Up the Cave, Denise Levertov, Poetry New Directions > > New & Selected Essays, Denise Levertov, Poetry Essays, New Directions > 1992 > > Stone Cottage: Pound, Yeats & Modernism James, Logenbach, Poetry > > Criticism, Oxford 1998 > > On the Sublime, Loginius, Aesthetics, Various Editions > > In Search of Duende, Federico Garcia Lorca (N. T. DiGiovanni & C. > > Maurer, trans.), Essays, New Directions 1999 > > Poetry & Experience, Archibald MacLeish, Poetry Essays, Houghton > > Mifflin 1960 > > Creative Intuition in Art & Poetry, Jacques Maritain, Poetry & Art > > Essays, Pantheon 1953 > > Versification: A Short Introduction, James McAuley, Formalism/Metrics. > > Michigan State U. Press 1966 > > Worlds into Words: Understanding Modern Poems, Diane Middlebrook, > > Poetry Criticism, Norton 1980 > > The Witness of Poetry, Czeslaw Milosz, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press > > 1983 > > Selected Essays of Eugenio Montale, Eugenio Montale (Jonathan Galassi, > > trans.), Poetry Essays, Ecco 1982 > > Predilections: literary essays, Marianne Moore, Poetry Essays, Viking > > Press 1955 > > The Bedford Glossary of Critical & Literary Terms, Ross Murfin & > > Supryia M. Ray, Literary Reference, Bedford 1997 > > Basic Writings of Nietzsche, Friedrich Nietzsche, > > Philosophy/Aesthetics, Modern Library 2000 > > Rules for the Dance: Handbook for Writing & Reading Metrical Verse, > > Mary Oliver, Formalism/Metrics, Mariner Books 1998 > > A Poetry Handbook, Mary Oliver, Poetry Reference, Harvest Books 1994 > > The Other Voice, Octavio Paz, Poetry Essays, Harvest Books 1992 > > The Bow & the Lyre, Octavio Paz, U. of Texas Press 1973 > > Poetics of Inderterminacy: Rimbaud to Cage, Majorie Perloff, Poetry > > Criticism, Princeton U. Press 1981 > > The Sounds of Poetry: A Brief Guide, Robert Pinsky, Formalism/Metrics, > > Farrar Straus Giroux 1998 > > Poetry And The World, Robert Pinsky, Poetry Criticism, Ecco Press 1988 > > Selected Prose: 1909-1965, Ezra Pound, Literary Essays, New Directions > > ABC of Reading, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1934 > > Guide to Kulchur, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > > Literary Essays Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > > The Imagist Poem, William Pratt, ed., Poetry Criticism, Dutton > > The Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetics (3rd Edition), Alex Preminger, > > ed., Poetry Reference, Princeton U. Press 1993 > > Like a Writer, Francine Prose, Writing Essays > > Disjunctive Poetics: From Gertrude Stein and Louis Zukofsky to Susan > > Howe, Peter Quatermain, Poetry Criticism, Cambridge 1992 > > Exercises in Style, Raymond Queneau, Writing Essay in Versions of > > Single Story, New Directions 1981 > > Assays, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry & Literary Essays, New Directions 1961 > > American Poetry in the Twentieth Century, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry > > Essays, Continuum Book 1973 > > Blood, Bread and Poetry: Selected Prose, 1979-1986, Adrienne Rich, > > Poetry Essays, Norton 1986 > > On Lies, Secrets and Silence: Selected Prose, 1966-1978, Adrienne > > Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > > What Is Found There: Notebooks on Poetry and Politics, Adrienne Rich, > > Poetry Essays, Norton 1993 > > Practical Criticism, I. A. Richards, Literary Criticism, Harvest Books > > 1956 > > Letters on Cezanne, Rainer Maria Rilke (ed. Clara Rilke; trans. by > > Joel Agee), Art Essays, Fromme International 1985 > > Where Silence Reigns: Selected Prose, Rainer Maria Rilke (G. Craig > > Houston, trans.), Poetry Essays New Directions 1978 > > Letters to a Young Poet Rainer Maria Rilke (M. D. Herter, trans.), > > Poetry Essays, Norton 1934 > > Straw for the Fire: From the Notebooks of Theodore Roethke 1943-1963, > > Theodore Roethke (David Wagoner, ed.), Poet's Journal, Doubleday 1972 > > On the Poet and His Craft: Selected Prose, Theodore Roethke (Ralph J. > > Mills, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Washington Press 1965 > > The Dream of the Marsh Wren, Patiann Rogers, Poetry Essays, Milkweed > > Editions 1999 > > The Modern Poetic Sequence, M.L.Rosenthal & Sally M. Gall, U. of > > Oxford Press 1983 > > The Life of Poetry, Muriel Rukeyser, Poetry Essays, Paris Press 1996 > > The World of Poetry: Poets & Critics on the Art & Function of Poetry, > > Clive Sansom, ed., Poetry Quotes, Phoenix House 1959 > > Na?ve & Sentimental Poetry - On the Sublime, Friedrich von Schiller, > > Philosophy, Poetry, Aesthetics, Frederick Ungar Publishing 1966 > > Dialogue on Poetry and Literary Aphorisms, Friedrich Schlegel (trans. > > by Behler & Struc), Poetics, Penn. St. Univ. Press 1968 > > John Dryden on Dramatic Poetry and other critical essays, George > > Watson, ed., Poetry Essays, J.M. Dent & Sons 1962 > > Lives of the Poets, Michael Schmidt, Poetry Bios and Commentary, > > Vintage 2000 > > Schopenhauer: Essays & Aphorisms, Arthur Schopenhauer (RJ Hollingdale, > > trans.), Philosophy Penguin 1970 > > A Poet's Journal: Days of 1945-1951, George Seferis, Poet's Journal, > > Belknap (Harvard U. Press) 1974 > > Prose Keys to Modern Poetry, Karl Shapiro, ed., Poetry Essays, U. of > > Nebraska Press 1962 > > A Defence of Poetry, Sir Philip Sidney, Poetry Essay, Various Editions > > Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry, G. Singh, Literary Criticism. U. of > > Kentucky Press 1964 > > A Poet's Notebook, Edith Sitwell, Poetry Quotes, Macmillan & Co. 1944 > > De/Compositions, W.S. Snodgrass, Poetry Praxis, Graywolf Press 2001 > > The Making of a Poem, Stephen Spender, Poetry Essays, Norton 1962 > > House That Jack Built: Cthe Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer, Jack > > Spicer (ed. Peter Gizzi), Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 1998 > > Where The Angels Come Toward Us, David St. John, Poetry Essays, White > > Pine Press 1995 > > Apreciation: Paintin, Poetry and Prose, Leo Stein, Art Essays, Random > > House 1947 > > Writing the Australian Crawl, William Stafford, Poetry Essays, U. of > > Michigan Press 1978 > > Missing Measures: Moderh Poetry and the Revolt Against Meter, Timonthy > > Steele, Poetry Essays, U. of Arkansas Press 1990 > > How Writing is Written: Volume II of the Previously Uncollected > > Writings, Gertrude Stein (Robert Bartlett Haas, ed.), Essays, Black > > Sparrow Press 1974 > > The Necessary Angel: Essays on Reality & the Imagination, Wallace > > Stevens, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1951 > > Sur Plusiers Beaux Sujects: Wallace Stevens' Commonplace Books, > > Wallace Stevens (Milton Bates, ed.), Poet's Commonplace Book, Stanford > > U. Press 1989 > > Poetry and the Fate of the Senses, Susan Stewart, Poetry Essays, > > University of Chicago Press 2002 > > Theories & Documents of Contemporary Art: A Source Book of Artist's > > Writings, Kristine Stiles & Peter Selz, eds., Art Essays U. of > > California 1996 > > The Three Perfections: Chinese Painting, Poetry, and Calligraphy, > > Michael Sullivan, Poetry & Art, George Braziller 1999 > > The Book of Forms: A Handbook of Poetics (3rd Edition), Lewis Turco, > > Formalism/Metrics, U. of New England Press 2000 > > 45 Contemporary Poems: The Creative Process, Albeta Turner, Poetry > > Praxis, Longman 1985 > > Lives of the Poets: The Story of One Thousand Years of English & > > American Poetry, Louis Untermeyer, Short Biographical Essays, Replica > > Books 1999 > > Introduction to Poetry: Commentaries on Thirty Poems, Mark Van Doren, > > Poetry Essays, Hill & Wang 1968 > > Lives of the Artists, Giorgio Vasari (E. L. Seeley, trans.), Artist > > Biographies, Noonday 1957 > > Soul Says, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, Harvard U. Press 1995 > > Words Chosen Out of Desire, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, U. of > > Tenn. Press 1984 > > Telling It Slant: Avant Garde Poetics in the 1990s, Mark Wallace, > > Poetry Essays, U. of Alabama Press 2001 > > Nineteen Ways of Looking at Wang Wei, Eliot Weinberger & Octavio Paz, > > editors, Poetry Essay, Moyer Bell 1987 > > Concepts of Criticism, Ren? Wellek, Literary Criticism, Yale U. Press > 1963 > > The Embodiment of Knowledge, William Carlos William, Poetry Essays, > > New Directions 1974 > > Selected Essays of William Carlos. Williams William Carlos, Poetry > > Essays, New Directions 1969 > > In Defense of Reason, Yvor Winters, Poetry Essays, U. of Denver Press > 1937 > > The Japanese Haiku, Kenneth Yasuda, Poetry Criticism, Chas. E. Tuttle > 1957 > > Essays & Introductions, W. B. Yeats, Literary Essays,Collier Books 1961 > > A Defence of Ardor, Adam Zagajewski (Clare Cavanaugh, trans.), Poetry > > and Art Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 2004 > > Multum in Parvo: an essay in poetic imagination, Carl Zigrosser, > > Poetry Essays, George Braziller 1965 > > Lyrical Philosophy, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, U. of Toronto > > Press 1992 > > Wisdom & Metaphor, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, Gaspereau Press 2003 > > Dictionary of World Literature, Poetry Reference > > The Greenwood Encyclopedia of American Poetry, Poetry Reference > > Rhyming Dictionary, Poetry Reference, Various Editions > > nN > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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URL: From Kazmandu at aol.com Thu Mar 29 01:44:35 2007 From: Kazmandu at aol.com (Kazmandu at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:44:35 EDT Subject: [New-Poetry] One man could build stonehenge? Message-ID: Look Mom no pulleys! _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRRDzFROMx0_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRRDzFROMx0) Cheers, Kaz _http://mathematicalpoetry.blogspot.com/_ (http://mathematicalpoetry.blogspot.com/) _http://www.kazmaslanka.com/_ (http://www.kazmaslanka.com/) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Thu Mar 29 06:54:30 2007 From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net (Bob Grumman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 05:54:30 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library References: 8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com Message-ID: <003401c771f0$a3b69490$3afad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> Of Manywhere-at-Once!? Whaazzat piece of &!!$@# doing on your list, James!? Seriously, I thank you. It belongs on it, if only because the list needs some book on visual and related poetries. Also something specifically on language poetry. I didn't notice anything. Ron Silliman should finally post rather than announce here and suggest langpo additions. The L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E Book, I should think obligatory. Fascinating list. A few titles I think very little of but an amazing quantity of very good books. My only other suggestion would be to take out the books about specific poets--unless they really say something about poetry in general unsaid elsewhere, which I doubt. Next step for Margery would be to get an informed review of each of the books on your list! --Bob G. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Opus40-01 at opus40.org Thu Mar 29 08:38:36 2007 From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:38:36 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <460BB34C.9020603@opus40.org> The Poetty of Dylan Thomas, Elder Olson, Criticism, U. of Chicago Press, 1954 jforjames at aol.com wrote: > A while back we had a thread that started under the caption "Books a > Poet Should Own" and evolved into the "Poet's Ideal Library." Margery > Snyde ( http://poetry.about.com/ ) reminded me that I promised to > compile a book list from the various posts. I did that. Edited it > somewhat, deleting those titles that seemed too far afield. And I > added a good number titles, concentrating on Essays > (poetry/art/aesthetics), Literary Criticism/Theory, Practical Texts > & Guidebooks (but not of an introductory nature) and a few other odd > titles. I decided not include Anthologies unless the > introductory/thesis esssay was as important as the poems collected in > support of the thesis. Similarly I neglected reference books that were > not directly related to poetry. > > Sorted alpha by author/editor, this list continues to be open to > suggestions/corrections and an impossible work in progress.... > > A Glossary of Literary Terms, M.H.Abrams, Literary Reference, Holt > Rinehart Winston 1988 > Selected Writing of Guillaume Apollinaire, Guillaume Apollinaire (R. > Shattuck, trans.), Poetry Essays, New Directions 1971 > The Poetics, Aristotle, Poetry Essays, Various Editions > Essays Literary & Critical by Matthew Arnold, Matthew Arnold, Poetry > Essays, JM Dent & Son 1906 > Poetic Rhythm: An Introduction, Derek Attridge, Formalism, Metrics, > Cambridge U. Press 1996 > The Dyer's Hand, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Forewords & Afterwords, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, Erich > Auerbach, Literary Criticism, Doubleday Anchor Books 1957 > The Poetics of Reverie, Gaston Bachelard, Philosophy/Aesthetics, > Beacon Press 1971 > The Poetics of Space, Gaston Bachelard (Maria Jolas, trans.), > Philosophy/Aesthetics ,Beacon Press 1969 > Onward: Contemporary Poetry & Poetics, Peter Baker, Poetry Essays, > Peter Lang Publishing 1996 > An Owen Barfield Reader Owen Barfield, Poetry Criticism, Wesleyan U. > Press 1999 > The Art of Writing: Teachings of the Chinese Masters, Tony Barnstone & > Chou Ping, trans., Poetry Essays, Shambhala 1996 > The Making of the Auden Canon , Jos. Warren Beach, Poetry Criticism, > Russell & Russell 1971 > Illuminations, Walter Benjamin, Literary Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 > Reflections, Walter Benjamin (Peter Demetz, ed.), Literary Criticism, > Schoken Books 1978 > Content's Dream, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Sun & Moon 1986 > A Poetics, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press 1992 > Anxiety of Influence (2nd edition), Harold Bloom, Literary Criticism, > Oxford U. Press 1987 > Leaping Poetry, Robert Bly, Poetry Essay & Anthology > News of the Universe, Robert Bly, Poetry Essays & Anthology, Sierra > Club Books 1980 > A Poet's Alphabet: Reflections on the Literary Art & Vocation, Louise > Bogan (Robt. Phelps & Ruth Limmer, eds.), Poetry Essays, McGraw Hill 1970 > Object Lessons, Eavan Boland, Poetry Essays, Norton 1995 > The Act and the Place of Poetry, Yves Bonnefoy, Poetry Essays, U. of > Chicago Press 1989 > Borges Selected Non-Fictions, Jorge Luis Borges, Poetry & Writing, > Penguin 2000 > Borges On Writing, Jorge Luis Borges (di Giovanni, Macshane, Halpern, > interviewers), Interviews, Ecco Press 1972 > In the Blue Pharmacy: Essays on Poetry and Other Transformations, > Marianne Boruch,Poetry Essays, Trinity U. Press 2005 > Yeats at Work, Curtis Bradford, ed., Poetry Manuscript Analysis, > Southern Illinois Univ. Press 1965 > The Well-Wrought Urn, Cleanth Brooks, Poetry Criticism, Harvest Books 1956 > The Main of Light: On the Concept of Poetry, Justus Buchler, > Philosophy, Oxford 1974 > The Philosophy of Literary Form: Studies in Symbolic Action, Kenneth > Burke, Essays: Poetry, Philosophy, Vintage 1941 > A Phlosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime and > Beautiful, Edmund Burke (J. T. Boulton, ed.), Philosophy/Aesthetics, > U. of Notre Dame Press 1968 > Selected Essays & Reviews, Hayden Carruth, Poetry Essays, Copper > Canyon 1996 > Language and Myth, Ernst Cassirer, Philosophy, Dover 1953 > How Does A Poem Mean, John Ciardi, Poetry Essays, Houghton Mifflin 1959 > Biographia Literaria, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Literary Essays, > Various Editions > The Language of Criticism & the Structure of Poetry, R.S. Crane, > Literary Criticism, U. of Toronto 1953 > Selected Writing of Charles Olson, Robert Creeley, editor, Poetry > Essays, New Directions 1966 > Poetry & Literature: An Introduction to Its Criticism and History, > Benedetto Croce (Giovanni Gullace, trans.), Literary Criticism, S. > Illinois U. Press 1981 > The Problem of Style, J.V. Cunningham, Literary Essays, Fawcett > Publications 1966 > Poetry As Persuasion, Carl Dennis, Poetry Essays, U. of Georgia Press 2001 > Poetry in our Time, Babette Deutsch, Poetry Criticism, Columbia U. > Press 1952 > Art as Experience, John Dewey, Philosophy, Perigree Books 1980 > Sorties, James Dickey, Poetry Essays, LSU Press 1971 > Walking Light, Stephen Dunn, Poetry Essays, Boa Editions 2001 > The Use of Poetry & the Use of Criticism, T.S. Eliot, Poetry > Criticism, Faber & Faber 1933 > The Modern Tradition, Richard Ellman & Chas. Fieldelson, Jr., eds., > Literary, Cultural & Art Essays,Oxford 1965 > Complete Essays & Other Writings by Ralph Waldo Emerson, Ralph Waldo > Emerson, Poetry Essays & Philosophy, Modern Library 1950 > Seven Types of Ambiguity, William Empson, Poetry Criticism, New > Directions 1966 > Expansive Poetry: Essays on the New Narrative and New Formalism, > Frederick Feirstein, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1989 > The Ghost of Meter: Culture & Prosody in American Free Verse, Annie > Finch, Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2000 > An Exaltation of Forms, Annie Finch & Katherine Varnes, eds., > Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2002 > Romantic Criticism 1800-1850, R.A. Foakes, ed., Poetry Essays. Arnold > Publishers 1968 > A Field Guide to Contemporary Poetics Stuart Friebert, David Walker & > David Young, eds., Poetry Essays, Oberlin College Press 1997 > Robert Frost on Writing, Robert Frost (Elaine Barry, editor), Poetry > Essays, Rutgers 1973 > Selected Prose of Robert Frost, Robert Frost (H. Cox & E.C. Lathem, > eds.), Collier Books 1968 > Feeling As A Foreign Language: The Good Strangeness of Poetry, Alice > Fulton, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1999 > Poetic Meter & Poetic Form (revised edition), Paul Fussell, > Formalism?Metrics, Random House 1979 > The Poet's Work: 29 Masters of the 20th Century Poetry on the Origin > and Practice of Their Art, Reginald Gibbons, ed., Poetry Essays, > Houghton Mifflin 1979 > Twentieth-Century American Poetics: Poets on the Art of Poetry, Dana > Gioia, David Mason & Meg Schoerke, eds., Poetics, McGraw Hill 2003 > Can Poetry Matter?: Essays on Poetry & American Culture, Dana Gioia, > Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1992 > Proofs & Theories, Louise Gl?ck,Poetry Essays. Ecco Press 1994 > The Collected Works: Essays on Art & Literature, Johann Wolfgang von > Goethe (John Gearey, editor), Essays: Art & Poetry, Princeton U. Press > 1986 > The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth, Robert Graves, > Poetry Essay, Farrar Straus Giroux 1966 > Oxford Addresses on Poetry, Robert Graves, Poetry Essays, Doubleday 1962 > The Sighted Singer: Two Works on Poetry for Readers and Writers, Allen > R. Grossman (Mark Halliday, interviewer), Poetics, Johns Hopkins U. > Press 1991 > Of Manywhere-at-Once, Bob Grumman, Poetry Essays > New Expansive Poetry, R.S. Gwynn, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press > 1995 > Goatfoot Milktongue Twinbird: Interviews, Essays, and Notes on Poetry, > 1970-76, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1978 > Poetry & Ambition, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1988 > Twentieth Century Pleasures, Robert Hass, Poetry Essays, Ecco Press 1984 > Robert Hayden: Collected Prose, Robert Hayden (F. Glaysher, ed.; > foreword by Wm. Meredith), Literary Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1984 > Preoccupations: Selected Prose 1968-78, Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, > Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > The Redress of Poetry. Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, Farrar Straus > Giroux 1995 > Poetry, Language, Thought, Martin Heidegger (trans. by Albert > Hofstadter), Philosophy, Harper Colophon Books 1975 > Strong Words: Modern Poets on Modern Poetry, W.N. Herbert & Matthew > Hollis, eds., Poetry Essays, Bloodaxe Books 2000 > Nine Gates: Entering the Mind of Poetry Jane Hirshfield Poetry Essays, > HarperCollins 1997 > Metre, Rhythm and Verse Form, Philip Hobsbaum, Formalism/ Metrics, > Routledge 1999 > Essentials Of Literary Criticism,Philip Hobsbaum, Poetry Criticism, 1983 > Tradition and Experiment in English Poetry, Philip Hobsbaum. Poetry > Criticism 1979 > Rhyme's Reason, John Hollander, Formalism/Metrics, Yale U. Press 1981 > My Emily Dickinson, Susan Howe, Poetry Criticism, North Atlantic Books > 1985 > Donald Justice in Conversation, Philip Hoy, interviewer, Interviews > The Triggering Town, Richard Hugo, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > Speculations: Essays on Humanism & Philsophy of Art, T.E. Hulme, > Philosophy Essays, Routledge & Kegan Paul 1987 > The Auden Generation, Samuel Hynes, Poetry Criticism, Princeton U. > Press 1982 > The Failure of Poetry, The Promise of Language, Laura (Riding) Jackson > (John Nolan, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan 2007 > The Instant of Knowing, Josephine Jacobsen, Poetry Essay, Library of > Congress (pamphlet) > The Reaper Essays, Mark Jarman & Robert McDowell, Poetry Essays, Story > Line Press 1996 > Kipling, Auden & Company: Essays & Reviews 1935-1964, Randall Jarrell, > Poetry Essays & Reviews, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > Poetry and The Age, Randall Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews. Vintage 1959 > The Complete Perfectionist: A Poetics of Work, Juan Ramon Jim?nez > (Christopher Maurer, trans. & ed.), Poetry Aphorisms, Doubleday 1997 > Donald Justice Reader, Donald Justice, Poetry Essays, University Press > of New England 2003 > The Pound Era, Hugh Kenner, Poetry Criticism, U. of California 1971 > The Romantic Image, Frank Kermode, Literary Criticism, Vintage 1964 > The Poetry of Criticism: Horace Epistles II and Ars Poetica, Rpss S. > Kirkpatrick, Poetry Criticism, U. of Alberta Press 1990 > Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, Melissa > Kwasny, ed., Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 2004 > Feeling and Form, Susanne K.Langer, Philosophy/Aesthetics , Chas. > Scribners 1953 > Paul Val?ry: An Anthology, James Lawler, editor, Art & Literary > Essays, Routledge 1977 > Russian Formalist Criticism: Four Essays, L.T. Lemon & M.J. Reis, > trans., Literary Criticism, U. of Nebraska Press 1965 > Light Up the Cave, Denise Levertov, Poetry New Directions > New & Selected Essays, Denise Levertov, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1992 > Stone Cottage: Pound, Yeats & Modernism James, Logenbach, Poetry > Criticism, Oxford 1998 > On the Sublime, Loginius, Aesthetics, Various Editions > In Search of Duende, Federico Garcia Lorca (N. T. DiGiovanni & C. > Maurer, trans.), Essays, New Directions 1999 > Poetry & Experience, Archibald MacLeish, Poetry Essays, Houghton > Mifflin 1960 > Creative Intuition in Art & Poetry, Jacques Maritain, Poetry & Art > Essays, Pantheon 1953 > Versification: A Short Introduction, James McAuley, Formalism/Metrics. > Michigan State U. Press 1966 > Worlds into Words: Understanding Modern Poems, Diane Middlebrook, > Poetry Criticism, Norton 1980 > The Witness of Poetry, Czeslaw Milosz, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press > 1983 > Selected Essays of Eugenio Montale, Eugenio Montale (Jonathan Galassi, > trans.), Poetry Essays, Ecco 1982 > Predilections: literary essays, Marianne Moore, Poetry Essays, Viking > Press 1955 > The Bedford Glossary of Critical & Literary Terms, Ross Murfin & > Supryia M. Ray, Literary Reference, Bedford 1997 > Basic Writings of Nietzsche, Friedrich Nietzsche, > Philosophy/Aesthetics, Modern Library 2000 > Rules for the Dance: Handbook for Writing & Reading Metrical Verse, > Mary Oliver, Formalism/Metrics, Mariner Books 1998 > A Poetry Handbook, Mary Oliver, Poetry Reference, Harvest Books 1994 > The Other Voice, Octavio Paz, Poetry Essays, Harvest Books 1992 > The Bow & the Lyre, Octavio Paz, U. of Texas Press 1973 > Poetics of Inderterminacy: Rimbaud to Cage, Majorie Perloff, Poetry > Criticism, Princeton U. Press 1981 > The Sounds of Poetry: A Brief Guide, Robert Pinsky, Formalism/Metrics, > Farrar Straus Giroux 1998 > Poetry And The World, Robert Pinsky, Poetry Criticism, Ecco Press 1988 > Selected Prose: 1909-1965, Ezra Pound, Literary Essays, New Directions > ABC of Reading, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1934 > Guide to Kulchur, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > Literary Essays Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > The Imagist Poem, William Pratt, ed., Poetry Criticism, Dutton > The Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetics (3rd Edition), Alex Preminger, > ed., Poetry Reference, Princeton U. Press 1993 > Like a Writer, Francine Prose, Writing Essays > Disjunctive Poetics: From Gertrude Stein and Louis Zukofsky to Susan > Howe, Peter Quatermain, Poetry Criticism, Cambridge 1992 > Exercises in Style, Raymond Queneau, Writing Essay in Versions of > Single Story, New Directions 1981 > Assays, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry & Literary Essays, New Directions 1961 > American Poetry in the Twentieth Century, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry > Essays, Continuum Book 1973 > Blood, Bread and Poetry: Selected Prose, 1979-1986, Adrienne Rich, > Poetry Essays, Norton 1986 > On Lies, Secrets and Silence: Selected Prose, 1966-1978, Adrienne > Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > What Is Found There: Notebooks on Poetry and Politics, Adrienne Rich, > Poetry Essays, Norton 1993 > Practical Criticism, I. A. Richards, Literary Criticism, Harvest Books > 1956 > Letters on Cezanne, Rainer Maria Rilke (ed. Clara Rilke; trans. by > Joel Agee), Art Essays, Fromme International 1985 > Where Silence Reigns: Selected Prose, Rainer Maria Rilke (G. Craig > Houston, trans.), Poetry Essays New Directions 1978 > Letters to a Young Poet Rainer Maria Rilke (M. D. Herter, trans.), > Poetry Essays, Norton 1934 > Straw for the Fire: From the Notebooks of Theodore Roethke 1943-1963, > Theodore Roethke (David Wagoner, ed.), Poet's Journal, Doubleday 1972 > On the Poet and His Craft: Selected Prose, Theodore Roethke (Ralph J. > Mills, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Washington Press 1965 > The Dream of the Marsh Wren, Patiann Rogers, Poetry Essays, Milkweed > Editions 1999 > The Modern Poetic Sequence, M.L.Rosenthal & Sally M. Gall, U. of > Oxford Press 1983 > The Life of Poetry, Muriel Rukeyser, Poetry Essays, Paris Press 1996 > The World of Poetry: Poets & Critics on the Art & Function of Poetry, > Clive Sansom, ed., Poetry Quotes, Phoenix House 1959 > Na?ve & Sentimental Poetry - On the Sublime, Friedrich von Schiller, > Philosophy, Poetry, Aesthetics, Frederick Ungar Publishing 1966 > Dialogue on Poetry and Literary Aphorisms, Friedrich Schlegel (trans. > by Behler & Struc), Poetics, Penn. St. Univ. Press 1968 > John Dryden on Dramatic Poetry and other critical essays, George > Watson, ed., Poetry Essays, J.M. Dent & Sons 1962 > Lives of the Poets, Michael Schmidt, Poetry Bios and Commentary, > Vintage 2000 > Schopenhauer: Essays & Aphorisms, Arthur Schopenhauer (RJ Hollingdale, > trans.), Philosophy Penguin 1970 > A Poet's Journal: Days of 1945-1951, George Seferis, Poet's Journal, > Belknap (Harvard U. Press) 1974 > Prose Keys to Modern Poetry, Karl Shapiro, ed., Poetry Essays, U. of > Nebraska Press 1962 > A Defence of Poetry, Sir Philip Sidney, Poetry Essay, Various Editions > Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry, G. Singh, Literary Criticism. U. of > Kentucky Press 1964 > A Poet's Notebook, Edith Sitwell, Poetry Quotes, Macmillan & Co. 1944 > De/Compositions, W.S. Snodgrass, Poetry Praxis, Graywolf Press 2001 > The Making of a Poem, Stephen Spender, Poetry Essays, Norton 1962 > House That Jack Built: Cthe Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer, Jack > Spicer (ed. Peter Gizzi), Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 1998 > Where The Angels Come Toward Us, David St. John, Poetry Essays, White > Pine Press 1995 > Apreciation: Paintin, Poetry and Prose, Leo Stein, Art Essays, Random > House 1947 > Writing the Australian Crawl, William Stafford, Poetry Essays, U. of > Michigan Press 1978 > Missing Measures: Moderh Poetry and the Revolt Against Meter, Timonthy > Steele, Poetry Essays, U. of Arkansas Press 1990 > How Writing is Written: Volume II of the Previously Uncollected > Writings, Gertrude Stein (Robert Bartlett Haas, ed.), Essays, Black > Sparrow Press 1974 > The Necessary Angel: Essays on Reality & the Imagination, Wallace > Stevens, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1951 > Sur Plusiers Beaux Sujects: Wallace Stevens' Commonplace Books, > Wallace Stevens (Milton Bates, ed.), Poet's Commonplace Book, Stanford > U. Press 1989 > Poetry and the Fate of the Senses, Susan Stewart, Poetry Essays, > University of Chicago Press 2002 > Theories & Documents of Contemporary Art: A Source Book of Artist's > Writings, Kristine Stiles & Peter Selz, eds., Art Essays U. of > California 1996 > The Three Perfections: Chinese Painting, Poetry, and Calligraphy, > Michael Sullivan, Poetry & Art, George Braziller 1999 > The Book of Forms: A Handbook of Poetics (3rd Edition), Lewis Turco, > Formalism/Metrics, U. of New England Press 2000 > 45 Contemporary Poems: The Creative Process, Albeta Turner, Poetry > Praxis, Longman 1985 > Lives of the Poets: The Story of One Thousand Years of English & > American Poetry, Louis Untermeyer, Short Biographical Essays, Replica > Books 1999 > Introduction to Poetry: Commentaries on Thirty Poems, Mark Van Doren, > Poetry Essays, Hill & Wang 1968 > Lives of the Artists, Giorgio Vasari (E. L. Seeley, trans.), Artist > Biographies, Noonday 1957 > Soul Says, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, Harvard U. Press 1995 > Words Chosen Out of Desire, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, U. of > Tenn. Press 1984 > Telling It Slant: Avant Garde Poetics in the 1990s, Mark Wallace, > Poetry Essays, U. of Alabama Press 2001 > Nineteen Ways of Looking at Wang Wei, Eliot Weinberger & Octavio Paz, > editors, Poetry Essay, Moyer Bell 1987 > Concepts of Criticism, Ren? Wellek, Literary Criticism, Yale U. Press 1963 > The Embodiment of Knowledge, William Carlos William, Poetry Essays, > New Directions 1974 > Selected Essays of William Carlos. Williams William Carlos, Poetry > Essays, New Directions 1969 > In Defense of Reason, Yvor Winters, Poetry Essays, U. of Denver Press 1937 > The Japanese Haiku, Kenneth Yasuda, Poetry Criticism, Chas. E. Tuttle 1957 > Essays & Introductions, W. B. Yeats, Literary Essays,Collier Books 1961 > A Defence of Ardor, Adam Zagajewski (Clare Cavanaugh, trans.), Poetry > and Art Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 2004 > Multum in Parvo: an essay in poetic imagination, Carl Zigrosser, > Poetry Essays, George Braziller 1965 > Lyrical Philosophy, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, U. of Toronto > Press 1992 > Wisdom & Metaphor, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, Gaspereau Press 2003 > Dictionary of World Literature, Poetry Reference > The Greenwood Encyclopedia of American Poetry, Poetry Reference > Rhyming Dictionary, Poetry Reference, Various Editions > nN > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at *AOL.com* > . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- Tad Richards http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ From halvard at earthlink.net Thu Mar 29 00:47:38 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:47:38 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5F17CA9C-FAC3-47D4-B1B7-03C75CB35E03@earthlink.net> I was tempted to say, for starters, to omit all the books *about* poetry, but then there'd be little left here. So, I'll say omit *most* of the books about poetry, dictionaries of terms, handbooks, etc. Then I'd start to add in books that poets can *use*: e.g., collections of poems (even some anthologies of poems), works of prose that poets, in some way, can *use*: e.g., almost anything by Joyce, Thoreau, Mishima, Stein, etc. etc. In short, my ideal library would be very, very different. But, hey, you knew that already, right? I'd like to keep it down to about five titles. I'll let you know which five . . . well, what year is it now? Hal "language--the Riviera of consciousness" --Bob Perelman Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 28, 2007, at 7:54 PM, jforjames at aol.com wrote: > A while back we had a thread that started under the caption "Books > a Poet Should Own" and evolved into the "Poet's Ideal Library." > Margery Snyde ( http://poetry.about.com/ ) reminded me that I > promised to compile a book list from the various posts. I did that. > Edited it somewhat, deleting those titles that seemed too far > afield. And I added a good number titles, concentrating on Essays > (poetry/art/aesthetics), Literary Criticism/Theory, Practical Texts > & Guidebooks (but not of an introductory nature) and a few other > odd titles. I decided not include Anthologies unless the > introductory/thesis esssay was as important as the poems collected > in support of the thesis. Similarly I neglected reference books > that were not directly related to poetry. > > Sorted alpha by author/editor, this list continues to be open to > suggestions/corrections and an impossible work in progress.... > > A Glossary of Literary Terms, M.H.Abrams, Literary Reference, Holt > Rinehart Winston 1988 > Selected Writing of Guillaume Apollinaire, Guillaume Apollinaire > (R. Shattuck, trans.), Poetry Essays, New Directions 1971 > The Poetics, Aristotle, Poetry Essays, Various Editions > Essays Literary & Critical by Matthew Arnold, Matthew Arnold, > Poetry Essays, JM Dent & Son 1906 > Poetic Rhythm: An Introduction, Derek Attridge, Formalism, Metrics, > Cambridge U. Press 1996 > The Dyer's Hand, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Forewords & Afterwords, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, Erich > Auerbach, Literary Criticism, Doubleday Anchor Books 1957 > The Poetics of Reverie, Gaston Bachelard, Philosophy/Aesthetics, > Beacon Press 1971 > The Poetics of Space, Gaston Bachelard (Maria Jolas, trans.), > Philosophy/Aesthetics ,Beacon Press 1969 > Onward: Contemporary Poetry & Poetics, Peter Baker, Poetry Essays, > Peter Lang Publishing 1996 > An Owen Barfield Reader Owen Barfield, Poetry Criticism, Wesleyan > U. Press 1999 > The Art of Writing: Teachings of the Chinese Masters, Tony > Barnstone & Chou Ping, trans., Poetry Essays, Shambhala 1996 > The Making of the Auden Canon , Jos. Warren Beach, Poetry > Criticism, Russell & Russell 1971 > Illuminations, Walter Benjamin, Literary Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 > Reflections, Walter Benjamin (Peter Demetz, ed.), Literary > Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 > Content's Dream, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Sun & Moon 1986 > A Poetics, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press 1992 > Anxiety of Influence (2nd edition), Harold Bloom, Literary > Criticism, Oxford U. Press 1987 > Leaping Poetry, Robert Bly, Poetry Essay & Anthology > News of the Universe, Robert Bly, Poetry Essays & Anthology, Sierra > Club Books 1980 > A Poet's Alphabet: Reflections on the Literary Art & Vocation, > Louise Bogan (Robt. Phelps & Ruth Limmer, eds.), Poetry Essays, > McGraw Hill 1970 > Object Lessons, Eavan Boland, Poetry Essays, Norton 1995 > The Act and the Place of Poetry, Yves Bonnefoy, Poetry Essays, U. > of Chicago Press 1989 > Borges Selected Non-Fictions, Jorge Luis Borges, Poetry & Writing, > Penguin 2000 > Borges On Writing, Jorge Luis Borges (di Giovanni, Macshane, > Halpern, interviewers), Interviews, Ecco Press 1972 > In the Blue Pharmacy: Essays on Poetry and Other Transformations, > Marianne Boruch,Poetry Essays, Trinity U. Press 2005 > Yeats at Work, Curtis Bradford, ed., Poetry Manuscript Analysis, > Southern Illinois Univ. Press 1965 > The Well-Wrought Urn, Cleanth Brooks, Poetry Criticism, Harvest > Books 1956 > The Main of Light: On the Concept of Poetry, Justus Buchler, > Philosophy, Oxford 1974 > The Philosophy of Literary Form: Studies in Symbolic Action, > Kenneth Burke, Essays: Poetry, Philosophy, Vintage 1941 > A Phlosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime > and Beautiful, Edmund Burke (J. T. Boulton, ed.), Philosophy/ > Aesthetics, U. of Notre Dame Press 1968 > Selected Essays & Reviews, Hayden Carruth, Poetry Essays, Copper > Canyon 1996 > Language and Myth, Ernst Cassirer, Philosophy, Dover 1953 > How Does A Poem Mean, John Ciardi, Poetry Essays, Houghton Mifflin > 1959 > Biographia Literaria, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Literary Essays, > Various Editions > The Language of Criticism & the Structure of Poetry, R.S. Crane, > Literary Criticism, U. of Toronto 1953 > Selected Writing of Charles Olson, Robert Creeley, editor, Poetry > Essays, New Directions 1966 > Poetry & Literature: An Introduction to Its Criticism and History, > Benedetto Croce (Giovanni Gullace, trans.), Literary Criticism, S. > Illinois U. Press 1981 > The Problem of Style, J.V. Cunningham, Literary Essays, Fawcett > Publications 1966 > Poetry As Persuasion, Carl Dennis, Poetry Essays, U. of Georgia > Press 2001 > Poetry in our Time, Babette Deutsch, Poetry Criticism, Columbia U. > Press 1952 > Art as Experience, John Dewey, Philosophy, Perigree Books 1980 > Sorties, James Dickey, Poetry Essays, LSU Press 1971 > Walking Light, Stephen Dunn, Poetry Essays, Boa Editions 2001 > The Use of Poetry & the Use of Criticism, T.S. Eliot, Poetry > Criticism, Faber & Faber 1933 > The Modern Tradition, Richard Ellman & Chas. Fieldelson, Jr., eds., > Literary, Cultural & Art Essays,Oxford 1965 > Complete Essays & Other Writings by Ralph Waldo Emerson, Ralph > Waldo Emerson, Poetry Essays & Philosophy, Modern Library 1950 > Seven Types of Ambiguity, William Empson, Poetry Criticism, New > Directions 1966 > Expansive Poetry: Essays on the New Narrative and New Formalism, > Frederick Feirstein, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1989 > The Ghost of Meter: Culture & Prosody in American Free Verse, Annie > Finch, Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2000 > An Exaltation of Forms, Annie Finch & Katherine Varnes, eds., > Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2002 > Romantic Criticism 1800-1850, R.A. Foakes, ed., Poetry Essays. > Arnold Publishers 1968 > A Field Guide to Contemporary Poetics Stuart Friebert, David Walker > & David Young, eds., Poetry Essays, Oberlin College Press 1997 > Robert Frost on Writing, Robert Frost (Elaine Barry, editor), > Poetry Essays, Rutgers 1973 > Selected Prose of Robert Frost, Robert Frost (H. Cox & E.C. Lathem, > eds.), Collier Books 1968 > Feeling As A Foreign Language: The Good Strangeness of Poetry, > Alice Fulton, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1999 > Poetic Meter & Poetic Form (revised edition), Paul Fussell, > Formalism?Metrics, Random House 1979 > The Poet's Work: 29 Masters of the 20th Century Poetry on the > Origin and Practice of Their Art, Reginald Gibbons, ed., Poetry > Essays, Houghton Mifflin 1979 > Twentieth-Century American Poetics: Poets on the Art of Poetry, > Dana Gioia, David Mason & Meg Schoerke, eds., Poetics, McGraw Hill > 2003 > Can Poetry Matter?: Essays on Poetry & American Culture, Dana > Gioia, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1992 > Proofs & Theories, Louise Gl?ck,Poetry Essays. Ecco Press 1994 > The Collected Works: Essays on Art & Literature, Johann Wolfgang > von Goethe (John Gearey, editor), Essays: Art & Poetry, Princeton > U. Press 1986 > The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth, Robert > Graves, Poetry Essay, Farrar Straus Giroux 1966 > Oxford Addresses on Poetry, Robert Graves, Poetry Essays, Doubleday > 1962 > The Sighted Singer: Two Works on Poetry for Readers and Writers, > Allen R. Grossman (Mark Halliday, interviewer), Poetics, Johns > Hopkins U. Press 1991 > Of Manywhere-at-Once, Bob Grumman, Poetry Essays > New Expansive Poetry, R.S. Gwynn, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line > Press 1995 > Goatfoot Milktongue Twinbird: Interviews, Essays, and Notes on > Poetry, 1970-76, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1978 > Poetry & Ambition, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press > 1988 > Twentieth Century Pleasures, Robert Hass, Poetry Essays, Ecco Press > 1984 > Robert Hayden: Collected Prose, Robert Hayden (F. Glaysher, ed.; > foreword by Wm. Meredith), Literary Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1984 > Preoccupations: Selected Prose 1968-78, Seamus Heaney, Poetry > Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > The Redress of Poetry. Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, Farrar Straus > Giroux 1995 > Poetry, Language, Thought, Martin Heidegger (trans. by Albert > Hofstadter), Philosophy, Harper Colophon Books 1975 > Strong Words: Modern Poets on Modern Poetry, W.N. Herbert & Matthew > Hollis, eds., Poetry Essays, Bloodaxe Books 2000 > Nine Gates: Entering the Mind of Poetry Jane Hirshfield Poetry > Essays, HarperCollins 1997 > Metre, Rhythm and Verse Form, Philip Hobsbaum, Formalism/ Metrics, > Routledge 1999 > Essentials Of Literary Criticism,Philip Hobsbaum, Poetry Criticism, > 1983 > Tradition and Experiment in English Poetry, Philip Hobsbaum. Poetry > Criticism 1979 > Rhyme's Reason, John Hollander, Formalism/Metrics, Yale U. Press 1981 > My Emily Dickinson, Susan Howe, Poetry Criticism, North Atlantic > Books 1985 > Donald Justice in Conversation, Philip Hoy, interviewer, Interviews > The Triggering Town, Richard Hugo, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > Speculations: Essays on Humanism & Philsophy of Art, T.E. Hulme, > Philosophy Essays, Routledge & Kegan Paul 1987 > The Auden Generation, Samuel Hynes, Poetry Criticism, Princeton U. > Press 1982 > The Failure of Poetry, The Promise of Language, Laura (Riding) > Jackson (John Nolan, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan 2007 > The Instant of Knowing, Josephine Jacobsen, Poetry Essay, Library > of Congress (pamphlet) > The Reaper Essays, Mark Jarman & Robert McDowell, Poetry Essays, > Story Line Press 1996 > Kipling, Auden & Company: Essays & Reviews 1935-1964, Randall > Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > Poetry and The Age, Randall Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews. > Vintage 1959 > The Complete Perfectionist: A Poetics of Work, Juan Ramon Jim?nez > (Christopher Maurer, trans. & ed.), Poetry Aphorisms, Doubleday 1997 > Donald Justice Reader, Donald Justice, Poetry Essays, University > Press of New England 2003 > The Pound Era, Hugh Kenner, Poetry Criticism, U. of California 1971 > The Romantic Image, Frank Kermode, Literary Criticism, Vintage 1964 > The Poetry of Criticism: Horace Epistles II and Ars Poetica, Rpss > S. Kirkpatrick, Poetry Criticism, U. of Alberta Press 1990 > Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, > Melissa Kwasny, ed., Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 2004 > Feeling and Form, Susanne K.Langer, Philosophy/Aesthetics , Chas. > Scribners 1953 > Paul Val?ry: An Anthology, James Lawler, editor, Art & Literary > Essays, Routledge 1977 > Russian Formalist Criticism: Four Essays, L.T. Lemon & M.J. Reis, > trans., Literary Criticism, U. of Nebraska Press 1965 > Light Up the Cave, Denise Levertov, Poetry New Directions > New & Selected Essays, Denise Levertov, Poetry Essays, New > Directions 1992 > Stone Cottage: Pound, Yeats & Modernism James, Logenbach, Poetry > Criticism, Oxford 1998 > On the Sublime, Loginius, Aesthetics, Various Editions > In Search of Duende, Federico Garcia Lorca (N. T. DiGiovanni & C. > Maurer, trans.), Essays, New Directions 1999 > Poetry & Experience, Archibald MacLeish, Poetry Essays, Houghton > Mifflin 1960 > Creative Intuition in Art & Poetry, Jacques Maritain, Poetry & Art > Essays, Pantheon 1953 > Versification: A Short Introduction, James McAuley, Formalism/ > Metrics. Michigan State U. Press 1966 > Worlds into Words: Understanding Modern Poems, Diane Middlebrook, > Poetry Criticism, Norton 1980 > The Witness of Poetry, Czeslaw Milosz, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. > Press 1983 > Selected Essays of Eugenio Montale, Eugenio Montale (Jonathan > Galassi, trans.), Poetry Essays, Ecco 1982 > Predilections: literary essays, Marianne Moore, Poetry Essays, > Viking Press 1955 > The Bedford Glossary of Critical & Literary Terms, Ross Murfin & > Supryia M. Ray, Literary Reference, Bedford 1997 > Basic Writings of Nietzsche, Friedrich Nietzsche, Philosophy/ > Aesthetics, Modern Library 2000 > Rules for the Dance: Handbook for Writing & Reading Metrical Verse, > Mary Oliver, Formalism/Metrics, Mariner Books 1998 > A Poetry Handbook, Mary Oliver, Poetry Reference, Harvest Books 1994 > The Other Voice, Octavio Paz, Poetry Essays, Harvest Books 1992 > The Bow & the Lyre, Octavio Paz, U. of Texas Press 1973 > Poetics of Inderterminacy: Rimbaud to Cage, Majorie Perloff, Poetry > Criticism, Princeton U. Press 1981 > The Sounds of Poetry: A Brief Guide, Robert Pinsky, Formalism/ > Metrics, Farrar Straus Giroux 1998 > Poetry And The World, Robert Pinsky, Poetry Criticism, Ecco Press 1988 > Selected Prose: 1909-1965, Ezra Pound, Literary Essays, New Directions > ABC of Reading, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1934 > Guide to Kulchur, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > Literary Essays Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions > The Imagist Poem, William Pratt, ed., Poetry Criticism, Dutton > The Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetics (3rd Edition), Alex > Preminger, ed., Poetry Reference, Princeton U. Press 1993 > Like a Writer, Francine Prose, Writing Essays > Disjunctive Poetics: From Gertrude Stein and Louis Zukofsky to > Susan Howe, Peter Quatermain, Poetry Criticism, Cambridge 1992 > Exercises in Style, Raymond Queneau, Writing Essay in Versions of > Single Story, New Directions 1981 > Assays, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry & Literary Essays, New Directions 1961 > American Poetry in the Twentieth Century, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry > Essays, Continuum Book 1973 > Blood, Bread and Poetry: Selected Prose, 1979-1986, Adrienne Rich, > Poetry Essays, Norton 1986 > On Lies, Secrets and Silence: Selected Prose, 1966-1978, Adrienne > Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > What Is Found There: Notebooks on Poetry and Politics, Adrienne > Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1993 > Practical Criticism, I. A. Richards, Literary Criticism, Harvest > Books 1956 > Letters on Cezanne, Rainer Maria Rilke (ed. Clara Rilke; trans. by > Joel Agee), Art Essays, Fromme International 1985 > Where Silence Reigns: Selected Prose, Rainer Maria Rilke (G. Craig > Houston, trans.), Poetry Essays New Directions 1978 > Letters to a Young Poet Rainer Maria Rilke (M. D. Herter, trans.), > Poetry Essays, Norton 1934 > Straw for the Fire: From the Notebooks of Theodore Roethke > 1943-1963, Theodore Roethke (David Wagoner, ed.), Poet's Journal, > Doubleday 1972 > On the Poet and His Craft: Selected Prose, Theodore Roethke (Ralph > J. Mills, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Washington Press 1965 > The Dream of the Marsh Wren, Patiann Rogers, Poetry Essays, > Milkweed Editions 1999 > The Modern Poetic Sequence, M.L.Rosenthal & Sally M. Gall, U. of > Oxford Press 1983 > The Life of Poetry, Muriel Rukeyser, Poetry Essays, Paris Press 1996 > The World of Poetry: Poets & Critics on the Art & Function of > Poetry, Clive Sansom, ed., Poetry Quotes, Phoenix House 1959 > Na?ve & Sentimental Poetry - On the Sublime, Friedrich von > Schiller, Philosophy, Poetry, Aesthetics, Frederick Ungar > Publishing 1966 > Dialogue on Poetry and Literary Aphorisms, Friedrich Schlegel > (trans. by Behler & Struc), Poetics, Penn. St. Univ. Press 1968 > John Dryden on Dramatic Poetry and other critical essays, George > Watson, ed., Poetry Essays, J.M. Dent & Sons 1962 > Lives of the Poets, Michael Schmidt, Poetry Bios and Commentary, > Vintage 2000 > Schopenhauer: Essays & Aphorisms, Arthur Schopenhauer (RJ > Hollingdale, trans.), Philosophy Penguin 1970 > A Poet's Journal: Days of 1945-1951, George Seferis, Poet's > Journal, Belknap (Harvard U. Press) 1974 > Prose Keys to Modern Poetry, Karl Shapiro, ed., Poetry Essays, U. > of Nebraska Press 1962 > A Defence of Poetry, Sir Philip Sidney, Poetry Essay, Various Editions > Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry, G. Singh, Literary Criticism. U. > of Kentucky Press 1964 > A Poet's Notebook, Edith Sitwell, Poetry Quotes, Macmillan & Co. 1944 > De/Compositions, W.S. Snodgrass, Poetry Praxis, Graywolf Press 2001 > The Making of a Poem, Stephen Spender, Poetry Essays, Norton 1962 > House That Jack Built: Cthe Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer, Jack > Spicer (ed. Peter Gizzi), Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 1998 > Where The Angels Come Toward Us, David St. John, Poetry Essays, > White Pine Press 1995 > Apreciation: Paintin, Poetry and Prose, Leo Stein, Art Essays, > Random House 1947 > Writing the Australian Crawl, William Stafford, Poetry Essays, U. > of Michigan Press 1978 > Missing Measures: Moderh Poetry and the Revolt Against Meter, > Timonthy Steele, Poetry Essays, U. of Arkansas Press 1990 > How Writing is Written: Volume II of the Previously Uncollected > Writings, Gertrude Stein (Robert Bartlett Haas, ed.), Essays, Black > Sparrow Press 1974 > The Necessary Angel: Essays on Reality & the Imagination, Wallace > Stevens, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1951 > Sur Plusiers Beaux Sujects: Wallace Stevens' Commonplace Books, > Wallace Stevens (Milton Bates, ed.), Poet's Commonplace Book, > Stanford U. Press 1989 > Poetry and the Fate of the Senses, Susan Stewart, Poetry Essays, > University of Chicago Press 2002 > Theories & Documents of Contemporary Art: A Source Book of Artist's > Writings, Kristine Stiles & Peter Selz, eds., Art Essays U. of > California 1996 > The Three Perfections: Chinese Painting, Poetry, and Calligraphy, > Michael Sullivan, Poetry & Art, George Braziller 1999 > The Book of Forms: A Handbook of Poetics (3rd Edition), Lewis > Turco, Formalism/Metrics, U. of New England Press 2000 > 45 Contemporary Poems: The Creative Process, Albeta Turner, Poetry > Praxis, Longman 1985 > Lives of the Poets: The Story of One Thousand Years of English & > American Poetry, Louis Untermeyer, Short Biographical Essays, > Replica Books 1999 > Introduction to Poetry: Commentaries on Thirty Poems, Mark Van > Doren, Poetry Essays, Hill & Wang 1968 > Lives of the Artists, Giorgio Vasari (E. L. Seeley, trans.), Artist > Biographies, Noonday 1957 > Soul Says, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, Harvard U. Press 1995 > Words Chosen Out of Desire, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, U. > of Tenn. Press 1984 > Telling It Slant: Avant Garde Poetics in the 1990s, Mark Wallace, > Poetry Essays, U. of Alabama Press 2001 > Nineteen Ways of Looking at Wang Wei, Eliot Weinberger & Octavio > Paz, editors, Poetry Essay, Moyer Bell 1987 > Concepts of Criticism, Ren? Wellek, Literary Criticism, Yale U. > Press 1963 > The Embodiment of Knowledge, William Carlos William, Poetry Essays, > New Directions 1974 > Selected Essays of William Carlos. Williams William Carlos, Poetry > Essays, New Directions 1969 > In Defense of Reason, Yvor Winters, Poetry Essays, U. of Denver > Press 1937 > The Japanese Haiku, Kenneth Yasuda, Poetry Criticism, Chas. E. > Tuttle 1957 > Essays & Introductions, W. B. Yeats, Literary Essays,Collier Books > 1961 > A Defence of Ardor, Adam Zagajewski (Clare Cavanaugh, trans.), > Poetry and Art Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 2004 > Multum in Parvo: an essay in poetic imagination, Carl Zigrosser, > Poetry Essays, George Braziller 1965 > Lyrical Philosophy, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, U. of Toronto > Press 1992 > Wisdom & Metaphor, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, Gaspereau Press > 2003 > Dictionary of World Literature, Poetry Reference > The Greenwood Encyclopedia of American Poetry, Poetry Reference > Rhyming Dictionary, Poetry Reference, Various Editions > nN > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's > free from AOL at AOL.com. > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry "language--the Riviera of consciousness" --Bob Perelman Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Thu Mar 29 12:00:18 2007 From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net (Bob Grumman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:00:18 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> 5F17CA9C-FAC3-47D4-B1B7-03C75CB35E03@earthlink.net Message-ID: <00d601c7721b$5a794950$3afad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> I was tempted to say, for starters, to omit all the books *about* poetry, but then there'd be little left here. So, I'll say omit *most* of the books about poetry, dictionaries of terms, handbooks, etc. I'd say the better course would be to re-title the list "Thinking Poet's Ideal Library of Poetry Criticism." --Bob G. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Opus40-01 at opus40.org Thu Mar 29 11:46:41 2007 From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:46:41 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <5F17CA9C-FAC3-47D4-B1B7-03C75CB35E03@earthlink.net> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> <5F17CA9C-FAC3-47D4-B1B7-03C75CB35E03@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <460BDF61.9080604@opus40.org> So would mine, but if we started throwing out books on the basis of Let's get rid of everything Hal wouldn't have, followed by everything Tad wouldn't have, followed by everything Bob wouldn't have, followed by everything Dillon wouldn't have, followed by everything Ron Silliman wouldn't have, followed by everything Anny and Jim and Sam Gwynn and David Graham (well, he'd have a lot more than rest of us, because he's a better person) and Joe Duemer and Dana Gioia and Susan Howe wouldn't have, you're going to end up with not much of a list. So I bote for inclusivity, Halvard Johnson wrote: > I was tempted to say, for starters, to omit all the books *about* > poetry, but then there'd be little left here. So, I'll say omit *most* > of the books about poetry, dictionaries of terms, handbooks, etc. > > Then I'd start to add in books that poets can *use*: e.g., collections > of poems (even some anthologies of poems), works of prose that > poets, in some way, can *use*: e.g., almost anything by Joyce, > Thoreau, Mishima, Stein, etc. etc. > > In short, my ideal library would be very, very different. But, hey, > you knew that already, right? I'd like to keep it down to about > five titles. I'll let you know which five . . . well, what year is > it now? > > Hal > > "language--the Riviera of consciousness" > --Bob Perelman > > Halvard Johnson > ================ > halvard at gmail.com > halvard at earthlink.net > http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard > http://entropyandme.blogspot.com > http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com > http://www.hamiltonstone.org > > On Mar 28, 2007, at 7:54 PM, jforjames at aol.com > wrote: > >> A while back we had a thread that started under the caption "Books a >> Poet Should Own" and evolved into the "Poet's Ideal Library." Margery >> Snyde ( http://poetry.about.com/ ) reminded me that I promised to >> compile a book list from the various posts. I did that. Edited it >> somewhat, deleting those titles that seemed too far afield. And I >> added a good number titles, concentrating on Essays >> (poetry/art/aesthetics), Literary Criticism/Theory, Practical Texts >> & Guidebooks (but not of an introductory nature) and a few other odd >> titles. I decided not include Anthologies unless the >> introductory/thesis esssay was as important as the poems collected in >> support of the thesis. Similarly I neglected reference books that >> were not directly related to poetry. >> >> Sorted alpha by author/editor, this list continues to be open to >> suggestions/corrections and an impossible work in progress.... >> >> A Glossary of Literary Terms, M.H.Abrams, Literary Reference, Holt >> Rinehart Winston 1988 >> Selected Writing of Guillaume Apollinaire, Guillaume Apollinaire (R. >> Shattuck, trans.), Poetry Essays, New Directions 1971 >> The Poetics, Aristotle, Poetry Essays, Various Editions >> Essays Literary & Critical by Matthew Arnold, Matthew Arnold, Poetry >> Essays, JM Dent & Son 1906 >> Poetic Rhythm: An Introduction, Derek Attridge, Formalism, Metrics, >> Cambridge U. Press 1996 >> The Dyer's Hand, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 >> Forewords & Afterwords, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 >> Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, Erich >> Auerbach, Literary Criticism, Doubleday Anchor Books 1957 >> The Poetics of Reverie, Gaston Bachelard, Philosophy/Aesthetics, >> Beacon Press 1971 >> The Poetics of Space, Gaston Bachelard (Maria Jolas, trans.), >> Philosophy/Aesthetics ,Beacon Press 1969 >> Onward: Contemporary Poetry & Poetics, Peter Baker, Poetry Essays, >> Peter Lang Publishing 1996 >> An Owen Barfield Reader Owen Barfield, Poetry Criticism, Wesleyan U. >> Press 1999 >> The Art of Writing: Teachings of the Chinese Masters, Tony Barnstone >> & Chou Ping, trans., Poetry Essays, Shambhala 1996 >> The Making of the Auden Canon , Jos. Warren Beach, Poetry Criticism, >> Russell & Russell 1971 >> Illuminations, Walter Benjamin, Literary Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 >> Reflections, Walter Benjamin (Peter Demetz, ed.), Literary Criticism, >> Schoken Books 1978 >> Content's Dream, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Sun & Moon 1986 >> A Poetics, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press 1992 >> Anxiety of Influence (2nd edition), Harold Bloom, Literary Criticism, >> Oxford U. Press 1987 >> Leaping Poetry, Robert Bly, Poetry Essay & Anthology >> News of the Universe, Robert Bly, Poetry Essays & Anthology, Sierra >> Club Books 1980 >> A Poet's Alphabet: Reflections on the Literary Art & Vocation, Louise >> Bogan (Robt. Phelps & Ruth Limmer, eds.), Poetry Essays, McGraw Hill 1970 >> Object Lessons, Eavan Boland, Poetry Essays, Norton 1995 >> The Act and the Place of Poetry, Yves Bonnefoy, Poetry Essays, U. of >> Chicago Press 1989 >> Borges Selected Non-Fictions, Jorge Luis Borges, Poetry & Writing, >> Penguin 2000 >> Borges On Writing, Jorge Luis Borges (di Giovanni, Macshane, Halpern, >> interviewers), Interviews, Ecco Press 1972 >> In the Blue Pharmacy: Essays on Poetry and Other Transformations, >> Marianne Boruch,Poetry Essays, Trinity U. Press 2005 >> Yeats at Work, Curtis Bradford, ed., Poetry Manuscript Analysis, >> Southern Illinois Univ. 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Yeats, Literary Essays,Collier Books 1961 >> A Defence of Ardor, Adam Zagajewski (Clare Cavanaugh, trans.), Poetry >> and Art Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 2004 >> Multum in Parvo: an essay in poetic imagination, Carl Zigrosser, >> Poetry Essays, George Braziller 1965 >> Lyrical Philosophy, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, U. of Toronto >> Press 1992 >> Wisdom & Metaphor, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, Gaspereau Press 2003 >> Dictionary of World Literature, Poetry Reference >> The Greenwood Encyclopedia of American Poetry, Poetry Reference >> Rhyming Dictionary, Poetry Reference, Various Editions >> nN >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's >> free from AOL at *AOL.com* >> . >> _______________________________________________ >> New-Poetry mailing list >> New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > > > > "language--the Riviera of consciousness" > --Bob Perelman > > Halvard Johnson > ================ > halvard at gmail.com > halvard at earthlink.net > http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard > http://entropyandme.blogspot.com > http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com > http://www.hamiltonstone.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- Tad Richards http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ From halvard at earthlink.net Thu Mar 29 11:51:48 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:51:48 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <460BDF61.9080604@opus40.org> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> <5F17CA9C-FAC3-47D4-B1B7-03C75CB35E03@earthlink.net> <460BDF61.9080604@opus40.org> Message-ID: <5A81667B-3E71-46E9-8543-FC7F1401A8D5@earthlink.net> Imagine the list we'd have if we included all the books that all those folks *would* have. Hal "Take what you can use and let the rest go by." --Ken Kesey Halvard Johnson ================ halvard at gmail.com halvard at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com http://www.hamiltonstone.org On Mar 29, 2007, at 9:46 AM, TheOldMole wrote: > So would mine, but if we started throwing out books on the basis of > Let's get rid of everything Hal wouldn't have, followed by > everything Tad wouldn't have, followed by everything Bob wouldn't > have, followed by everything Dillon wouldn't have, followed by > everything Ron Silliman wouldn't have, followed by everything Anny > and Jim and Sam Gwynn and David Graham (well, he'd have a lot more > than rest of us, because he's a better person) and Joe Duemer and > Dana Gioia and Susan Howe wouldn't have, you're going to end up > with not much of a list. So I bote for inclusivity, > > Halvard Johnson wrote: >> I was tempted to say, for starters, to omit all the books *about* >> poetry, but then there'd be little left here. So, I'll say omit >> *most* >> of the books about poetry, dictionaries of terms, handbooks, etc. >> Then I'd start to add in books that poets can *use*: e.g., >> collections of poems (even some anthologies of poems), works of >> prose that poets, in some way, can *use*: e.g., almost anything by >> Joyce, >> Thoreau, Mishima, Stein, etc. etc. >> >> In short, my ideal library would be very, very different. But, hey, >> you knew that already, right? I'd like to keep it down to about >> five titles. I'll let you know which five . . . well, what year is >> it now? >> >> Hal >> >> "language--the Riviera of consciousness" >> --Bob Perelman >> >> Halvard Johnson >> ================ >> halvard at gmail.com >> halvard at earthlink.net >> http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard > 7Ehalvard> >> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http:// >> imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com >> http://www.hamiltonstone.org >> >> On Mar 28, 2007, at 7:54 PM, jforjames at aol.com >> wrote: >> >>> A while back we had a thread that started under the caption >>> "Books a Poet Should Own" and evolved into the "Poet's Ideal >>> Library." Margery Snyde ( http://poetry.about.com/ ) reminded me >>> that I promised to compile a book list from the various posts. I >>> did that. Edited it somewhat, deleting those titles that seemed >>> too far afield. And I added a good number titles, concentrating >>> on Essays (poetry/art/aesthetics), Literary Criticism/Theory, >>> Practical Texts & Guidebooks (but not of an introductory nature) >>> and a few other odd titles. I decided not include Anthologies >>> unless the introductory/thesis esssay was as important as the >>> poems collected in support of the thesis. Similarly I neglected >>> reference books that were not directly related to poetry. >>> Sorted alpha by author/editor, this list continues to be open to >>> suggestions/corrections and an impossible work in progress.... >>> A Glossary of Literary Terms, M.H.Abrams, Literary Reference, >>> Holt Rinehart Winston 1988 >>> Selected Writing of Guillaume Apollinaire, Guillaume Apollinaire >>> (R. Shattuck, trans.), Poetry Essays, New Directions 1971 >>> The Poetics, Aristotle, Poetry Essays, Various Editions >>> Essays Literary & Critical by Matthew Arnold, Matthew Arnold, >>> Poetry Essays, JM Dent & Son 1906 >>> Poetic Rhythm: An Introduction, Derek Attridge, Formalism, >>> Metrics, Cambridge U. Press 1996 >>> The Dyer's Hand, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 >>> Forewords & Afterwords, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 >>> Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, >>> Erich Auerbach, Literary Criticism, Doubleday Anchor Books 1957 >>> The Poetics of Reverie, Gaston Bachelard, Philosophy/Aesthetics, >>> Beacon Press 1971 >>> The Poetics of Space, Gaston Bachelard (Maria Jolas, trans.), >>> Philosophy/Aesthetics ,Beacon Press 1969 >>> Onward: Contemporary Poetry & Poetics, Peter Baker, Poetry >>> Essays, Peter Lang Publishing 1996 >>> An Owen Barfield Reader Owen Barfield, Poetry Criticism, Wesleyan >>> U. Press 1999 >>> The Art of Writing: Teachings of the Chinese Masters, Tony >>> Barnstone & Chou Ping, trans., Poetry Essays, Shambhala 1996 >>> The Making of the Auden Canon , Jos. Warren Beach, Poetry >>> Criticism, Russell & Russell 1971 Illuminations, Walter Benjamin, >>> Literary Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 >>> Reflections, Walter Benjamin (Peter Demetz, ed.), Literary >>> Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 >>> Content's Dream, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Sun & Moon 1986 >>> A Poetics, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press 1992 >>> Anxiety of Influence (2nd edition), Harold Bloom, Literary >>> Criticism, Oxford U. Press 1987 >>> Leaping Poetry, Robert Bly, Poetry Essay & Anthology News of the >>> Universe, Robert Bly, Poetry Essays & Anthology, Sierra Club >>> Books 1980 >>> A Poet's Alphabet: Reflections on the Literary Art & Vocation, >>> Louise Bogan (Robt. Phelps & Ruth Limmer, eds.), Poetry Essays, >>> McGraw Hill 1970 >>> Object Lessons, Eavan Boland, Poetry Essays, Norton 1995 >>> The Act and the Place of Poetry, Yves Bonnefoy, Poetry Essays, U. >>> of Chicago Press 1989 >>> Borges Selected Non-Fictions, Jorge Luis Borges, Poetry & >>> Writing, Penguin 2000 >>> Borges On Writing, Jorge Luis Borges (di Giovanni, Macshane, >>> Halpern, interviewers), Interviews, Ecco Press 1972 >>> In the Blue Pharmacy: Essays on Poetry and Other Transformations, >>> Marianne Boruch,Poetry Essays, Trinity U. Press 2005 >>> Yeats at Work, Curtis Bradford, ed., Poetry Manuscript Analysis, >>> Southern Illinois Univ. Press 1965 >>> The Well-Wrought Urn, Cleanth Brooks, Poetry Criticism, Harvest >>> Books 1956 >>> The Main of Light: On the Concept of Poetry, Justus Buchler, >>> Philosophy, Oxford 1974 >>> The Philosophy of Literary Form: Studies in Symbolic Action, >>> Kenneth Burke, Essays: Poetry, Philosophy, Vintage 1941 >>> A Phlosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the >>> Sublime and Beautiful, Edmund Burke (J. T. Boulton, ed.), >>> Philosophy/Aesthetics, U. of Notre Dame Press 1968 >>> Selected Essays & Reviews, Hayden Carruth, Poetry Essays, Copper >>> Canyon 1996 >>> Language and Myth, Ernst Cassirer, Philosophy, Dover 1953 >>> How Does A Poem Mean, John Ciardi, Poetry Essays, Houghton >>> Mifflin 1959 >>> Biographia Literaria, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Literary Essays, >>> Various Editions The Language of Criticism & the Structure of >>> Poetry, R.S. Crane, Literary Criticism, U. of Toronto 1953 >>> Selected Writing of Charles Olson, Robert Creeley, editor, Poetry >>> Essays, New Directions 1966 >>> Poetry & Literature: An Introduction to Its Criticism and >>> History, Benedetto Croce (Giovanni Gullace, trans.), Literary >>> Criticism, S. Illinois U. Press 1981 >>> The Problem of Style, J.V. Cunningham, Literary Essays, Fawcett >>> Publications 1966 >>> Poetry As Persuasion, Carl Dennis, Poetry Essays, U. of Georgia >>> Press 2001 >>> Poetry in our Time, Babette Deutsch, Poetry Criticism, Columbia >>> U. Press 1952 >>> Art as Experience, John Dewey, Philosophy, Perigree Books 1980 >>> Sorties, James Dickey, Poetry Essays, LSU Press 1971 >>> Walking Light, Stephen Dunn, Poetry Essays, Boa Editions 2001 >>> The Use of Poetry & the Use of Criticism, T.S. Eliot, Poetry >>> Criticism, Faber & Faber 1933 >>> The Modern Tradition, Richard Ellman & Chas. Fieldelson, Jr., >>> eds., Literary, Cultural & Art Essays,Oxford 1965 >>> Complete Essays & Other Writings by Ralph Waldo Emerson, Ralph >>> Waldo Emerson, Poetry Essays & Philosophy, Modern Library 1950 >>> Seven Types of Ambiguity, William Empson, Poetry Criticism, New >>> Directions 1966 >>> Expansive Poetry: Essays on the New Narrative and New Formalism, >>> Frederick Feirstein, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1989 >>> The Ghost of Meter: Culture & Prosody in American Free Verse, >>> Annie Finch, Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2000 >>> An Exaltation of Forms, Annie Finch & Katherine Varnes, eds., >>> Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2002 >>> Romantic Criticism 1800-1850, R.A. Foakes, ed., Poetry Essays. >>> Arnold Publishers 1968 >>> A Field Guide to Contemporary Poetics Stuart Friebert, David >>> Walker & David Young, eds., Poetry Essays, Oberlin College Press >>> 1997 >>> Robert Frost on Writing, Robert Frost (Elaine Barry, editor), >>> Poetry Essays, Rutgers 1973 >>> Selected Prose of Robert Frost, Robert Frost (H. Cox & E.C. >>> Lathem, eds.), Collier Books 1968 >>> Feeling As A Foreign Language: The Good Strangeness of Poetry, >>> Alice Fulton, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1999 >>> Poetic Meter & Poetic Form (revised edition), Paul Fussell, >>> Formalism?Metrics, Random House 1979 >>> The Poet's Work: 29 Masters of the 20th Century Poetry on the >>> Origin and Practice of Their Art, Reginald Gibbons, ed., Poetry >>> Essays, Houghton Mifflin 1979 Twentieth-Century American Poetics: >>> Poets on the Art of Poetry, Dana Gioia, David Mason & Meg >>> Schoerke, eds., Poetics, McGraw Hill 2003 >>> Can Poetry Matter?: Essays on Poetry & American Culture, Dana >>> Gioia, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1992 >>> Proofs & Theories, Louise Gl?ck,Poetry Essays. Ecco Press 1994 >>> The Collected Works: Essays on Art & Literature, Johann Wolfgang >>> von Goethe (John Gearey, editor), Essays: Art & Poetry, Princeton >>> U. Press 1986 >>> The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth, Robert >>> Graves, Poetry Essay, Farrar Straus Giroux 1966 >>> Oxford Addresses on Poetry, Robert Graves, Poetry Essays, >>> Doubleday 1962 >>> The Sighted Singer: Two Works on Poetry for Readers and Writers, >>> Allen R. Grossman (Mark Halliday, interviewer), Poetics, Johns >>> Hopkins U. Press 1991 Of Manywhere-at-Once, Bob Grumman, >>> Poetry Essays New Expansive Poetry, R.S. Gwynn, ed., Poetry >>> Essays, Story Line Press 1995 >>> Goatfoot Milktongue Twinbird: Interviews, Essays, and Notes on >>> Poetry, 1970-76, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press >>> 1978 >>> Poetry & Ambition, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan >>> Press 1988 >>> Twentieth Century Pleasures, Robert Hass, Poetry Essays, Ecco >>> Press 1984 >>> Robert Hayden: Collected Prose, Robert Hayden (F. Glaysher, ed.; >>> foreword by Wm. Meredith), Literary Essays, U. of Michigan Press >>> 1984 >>> Preoccupations: Selected Prose 1968-78, Seamus Heaney, Poetry >>> Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 >>> The Redress of Poetry. Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, Farrar >>> Straus Giroux 1995 >>> Poetry, Language, Thought, Martin Heidegger (trans. by Albert >>> Hofstadter), Philosophy, Harper Colophon Books 1975 >>> Strong Words: Modern Poets on Modern Poetry, W.N. Herbert & >>> Matthew Hollis, eds., Poetry Essays, Bloodaxe Books 2000 >>> Nine Gates: Entering the Mind of Poetry Jane Hirshfield Poetry >>> Essays, HarperCollins 1997 >>> Metre, Rhythm and Verse Form, Philip Hobsbaum, Formalism/ >>> Metrics, Routledge 1999 >>> Essentials Of Literary Criticism,Philip Hobsbaum, Poetry >>> Criticism, 1983 >>> Tradition and Experiment in English Poetry, Philip Hobsbaum. >>> Poetry Criticism 1979 >>> Rhyme's Reason, John Hollander, Formalism/Metrics, Yale U. Press >>> 1981 >>> My Emily Dickinson, Susan Howe, Poetry Criticism, North Atlantic >>> Books 1985 >>> Donald Justice in Conversation, Philip Hoy, interviewer, >>> Interviews The Triggering Town, Richard Hugo, Poetry Essays, >>> Norton 1979 >>> Speculations: Essays on Humanism & Philsophy of Art, T.E. Hulme, >>> Philosophy Essays, Routledge & Kegan Paul 1987 >>> The Auden Generation, Samuel Hynes, Poetry Criticism, Princeton >>> U. Press 1982 >>> The Failure of Poetry, The Promise of Language, Laura (Riding) >>> Jackson (John Nolan, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan 2007 >>> The Instant of Knowing, Josephine Jacobsen, Poetry Essay, Library >>> of Congress (pamphlet) The Reaper Essays, Mark Jarman & Robert >>> McDowell, Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1996 >>> Kipling, Auden & Company: Essays & Reviews 1935-1964, Randall >>> Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 >>> Poetry and The Age, Randall Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews. >>> Vintage 1959 >>> The Complete Perfectionist: A Poetics of Work, Juan Ramon Jim?nez >>> (Christopher Maurer, trans. & ed.), Poetry Aphorisms, Doubleday 1997 >>> Donald Justice Reader, Donald Justice, Poetry Essays, University >>> Press of New England 2003 The Pound Era, Hugh Kenner, Poetry >>> Criticism, U. of California 1971 >>> The Romantic Image, Frank Kermode, Literary Criticism, Vintage 1964 >>> The Poetry of Criticism: Horace Epistles II and Ars Poetica, Rpss >>> S. Kirkpatrick, Poetry Criticism, U. of Alberta Press 1990 >>> Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, >>> Melissa Kwasny, ed., Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 2004 >>> Feeling and Form, Susanne K.Langer, Philosophy/Aesthetics , Chas. >>> Scribners 1953 >>> Paul Val?ry: An Anthology, James Lawler, editor, Art & Literary >>> Essays, Routledge 1977 >>> Russian Formalist Criticism: Four Essays, L.T. Lemon & M.J. Reis, >>> trans., Literary Criticism, U. of Nebraska Press 1965 >>> Light Up the Cave, Denise Levertov, Poetry New Directions New & >>> Selected Essays, Denise Levertov, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1992 >>> Stone Cottage: Pound, Yeats & Modernism James, Logenbach, Poetry >>> Criticism, Oxford 1998 >>> On the Sublime, Loginius, Aesthetics, Various Editions In Search >>> of Duende, Federico Garcia Lorca (N. T. DiGiovanni & C. Maurer, >>> trans.), Essays, New Directions 1999 >>> Poetry & Experience, Archibald MacLeish, Poetry Essays, Houghton >>> Mifflin 1960 >>> Creative Intuition in Art & Poetry, Jacques Maritain, Poetry & >>> Art Essays, Pantheon 1953 >>> Versification: A Short Introduction, James McAuley, Formalism/ >>> Metrics. Michigan State U. Press 1966 >>> Worlds into Words: Understanding Modern Poems, Diane Middlebrook, >>> Poetry Criticism, Norton 1980 >>> The Witness of Poetry, Czeslaw Milosz, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. >>> Press 1983 >>> Selected Essays of Eugenio Montale, Eugenio Montale (Jonathan >>> Galassi, trans.), Poetry Essays, Ecco 1982 >>> Predilections: literary essays, Marianne Moore, Poetry Essays, >>> Viking Press 1955 >>> The Bedford Glossary of Critical & Literary Terms, Ross Murfin & >>> Supryia M. Ray, Literary Reference, Bedford 1997 >>> Basic Writings of Nietzsche, Friedrich Nietzsche, Philosophy/ >>> Aesthetics, Modern Library 2000 >>> Rules for the Dance: Handbook for Writing & Reading Metrical >>> Verse, Mary Oliver, Formalism/Metrics, Mariner Books 1998 >>> A Poetry Handbook, Mary Oliver, Poetry Reference, Harvest Books 1994 >>> The Other Voice, Octavio Paz, Poetry Essays, Harvest Books 1992 >>> The Bow & the Lyre, Octavio Paz, U. of Texas Press 1973 >>> Poetics of Inderterminacy: Rimbaud to Cage, Majorie Perloff, >>> Poetry Criticism, Princeton U. Press 1981 >>> The Sounds of Poetry: A Brief Guide, Robert Pinsky, Formalism/ >>> Metrics, Farrar Straus Giroux 1998 >>> Poetry And The World, Robert Pinsky, Poetry Criticism, Ecco Press >>> 1988 >>> Selected Prose: 1909-1965, Ezra Pound, Literary Essays, New >>> Directions ABC of Reading, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New >>> Directions 1934 >>> Guide to Kulchur, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions >>> Literary Essays Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions The >>> Imagist Poem, William Pratt, ed., Poetry Criticism, Dutton The >>> Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetics (3rd Edition), Alex Preminger, >>> ed., Poetry Reference, Princeton U. Press 1993 >>> Like a Writer, Francine Prose, Writing Essays >>> Disjunctive Poetics: From Gertrude Stein and Louis Zukofsky to >>> Susan Howe, Peter Quatermain, Poetry Criticism, Cambridge 1992 >>> Exercises in Style, Raymond Queneau, Writing Essay in Versions of >>> Single Story, New Directions 1981 >>> Assays, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry & Literary Essays, New Directions >>> 1961 >>> American Poetry in the Twentieth Century, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry >>> Essays, Continuum Book 1973 >>> Blood, Bread and Poetry: Selected Prose, 1979-1986, Adrienne >>> Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1986 >>> On Lies, Secrets and Silence: Selected Prose, 1966-1978, Adrienne >>> Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 >>> What Is Found There: Notebooks on Poetry and Politics, Adrienne >>> Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1993 >>> Practical Criticism, I. A. Richards, Literary Criticism, Harvest >>> Books 1956 >>> Letters on Cezanne, Rainer Maria Rilke (ed. Clara Rilke; trans. >>> by Joel Agee), Art Essays, Fromme International 1985 >>> Where Silence Reigns: Selected Prose, Rainer Maria Rilke (G. >>> Craig Houston, trans.), Poetry Essays New Directions 1978 >>> Letters to a Young Poet Rainer Maria Rilke (M. D. Herter, >>> trans.), Poetry Essays, Norton 1934 >>> Straw for the Fire: From the Notebooks of Theodore Roethke >>> 1943-1963, Theodore Roethke (David Wagoner, ed.), Poet's Journal, >>> Doubleday 1972 >>> On the Poet and His Craft: Selected Prose, Theodore Roethke >>> (Ralph J. Mills, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Washington Press 1965 >>> The Dream of the Marsh Wren, Patiann Rogers, Poetry Essays, >>> Milkweed Editions 1999 >>> The Modern Poetic Sequence, M.L.Rosenthal & Sally M. Gall, U. of >>> Oxford Press 1983 >>> The Life of Poetry, Muriel Rukeyser, Poetry Essays, Paris Press 1996 >>> The World of Poetry: Poets & Critics on the Art & Function of >>> Poetry, Clive Sansom, ed., Poetry Quotes, Phoenix House 1959 >>> Na?ve & Sentimental Poetry - On the Sublime, Friedrich von >>> Schiller, Philosophy, Poetry, Aesthetics, Frederick Ungar >>> Publishing 1966 >>> Dialogue on Poetry and Literary Aphorisms, Friedrich Schlegel >>> (trans. by Behler & Struc), Poetics, Penn. St. Univ. Press 1968 >>> John Dryden on Dramatic Poetry and other critical essays, George >>> Watson, ed., Poetry Essays, J.M. Dent & Sons 1962 >>> Lives of the Poets, Michael Schmidt, Poetry Bios and Commentary, >>> Vintage 2000 >>> Schopenhauer: Essays & Aphorisms, Arthur Schopenhauer (RJ >>> Hollingdale, trans.), Philosophy Penguin 1970 >>> A Poet's Journal: Days of 1945-1951, George Seferis, Poet's >>> Journal, Belknap (Harvard U. Press) 1974 >>> Prose Keys to Modern Poetry, Karl Shapiro, ed., Poetry Essays, U. >>> of Nebraska Press 1962 >>> A Defence of Poetry, Sir Philip Sidney, Poetry Essay, Various >>> Editions Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry, G. Singh, Literary >>> Criticism. U. of Kentucky Press 1964 >>> A Poet's Notebook, Edith Sitwell, Poetry Quotes, Macmillan & Co. >>> 1944 >>> De/Compositions, W.S. Snodgrass, Poetry Praxis, Graywolf Press 2001 >>> The Making of a Poem, Stephen Spender, Poetry Essays, Norton 1962 >>> House That Jack Built: Cthe Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer, >>> Jack Spicer (ed. Peter Gizzi), Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 1998 >>> Where The Angels Come Toward Us, David St. John, Poetry Essays, >>> White Pine Press 1995 >>> Apreciation: Paintin, Poetry and Prose, Leo Stein, Art Essays, >>> Random House 1947 >>> Writing the Australian Crawl, William Stafford, Poetry Essays, U. >>> of Michigan Press 1978 >>> Missing Measures: Moderh Poetry and the Revolt Against Meter, >>> Timonthy Steele, Poetry Essays, U. of Arkansas Press 1990 >>> How Writing is Written: Volume II of the Previously Uncollected >>> Writings, Gertrude Stein (Robert Bartlett Haas, ed.), Essays, >>> Black Sparrow Press 1974 >>> The Necessary Angel: Essays on Reality & the Imagination, Wallace >>> Stevens, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1951 >>> Sur Plusiers Beaux Sujects: Wallace Stevens' Commonplace Books, >>> Wallace Stevens (Milton Bates, ed.), Poet's Commonplace Book, >>> Stanford U. Press 1989 >>> Poetry and the Fate of the Senses, Susan Stewart, Poetry Essays, >>> University of Chicago Press 2002 >>> Theories & Documents of Contemporary Art: A Source Book of >>> Artist's Writings, Kristine Stiles & Peter Selz, eds., Art Essays >>> U. of California 1996 >>> The Three Perfections: Chinese Painting, Poetry, and Calligraphy, >>> Michael Sullivan, Poetry & Art, George Braziller 1999 >>> The Book of Forms: A Handbook of Poetics (3rd Edition), Lewis >>> Turco, Formalism/Metrics, U. of New England Press 2000 >>> 45 Contemporary Poems: The Creative Process, Albeta Turner, >>> Poetry Praxis, Longman 1985 >>> Lives of the Poets: The Story of One Thousand Years of English & >>> American Poetry, Louis Untermeyer, Short Biographical Essays, >>> Replica Books 1999 >>> Introduction to Poetry: Commentaries on Thirty Poems, Mark Van >>> Doren, Poetry Essays, Hill & Wang 1968 >>> Lives of the Artists, Giorgio Vasari (E. L. Seeley, trans.), >>> Artist Biographies, Noonday 1957 >>> Soul Says, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, Harvard U. Press 1995 >>> Words Chosen Out of Desire, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, U. >>> of Tenn. Press 1984 >>> Telling It Slant: Avant Garde Poetics in the 1990s, Mark Wallace, >>> Poetry Essays, U. of Alabama Press 2001 >>> Nineteen Ways of Looking at Wang Wei, Eliot Weinberger & Octavio >>> Paz, editors, Poetry Essay, Moyer Bell 1987 >>> Concepts of Criticism, Ren? Wellek, Literary Criticism, Yale U. >>> Press 1963 >>> The Embodiment of Knowledge, William Carlos William, Poetry >>> Essays, New Directions 1974 >>> Selected Essays of William Carlos. Williams William Carlos, >>> Poetry Essays, New Directions 1969 >>> In Defense of Reason, Yvor Winters, Poetry Essays, U. of Denver >>> Press 1937 >>> The Japanese Haiku, Kenneth Yasuda, Poetry Criticism, Chas. E. >>> Tuttle 1957 >>> Essays & Introductions, W. B. Yeats, Literary Essays,Collier >>> Books 1961 >>> A Defence of Ardor, Adam Zagajewski (Clare Cavanaugh, trans.), >>> Poetry and Art Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 2004 >>> Multum in Parvo: an essay in poetic imagination, Carl Zigrosser, >>> Poetry Essays, George Braziller 1965 >>> Lyrical Philosophy, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, U. of Toronto >>> Press 1992 >>> Wisdom & Metaphor, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, Gaspereau >>> Press 2003 >>> Dictionary of World Literature, Poetry Reference The Greenwood >>> Encyclopedia of American Poetry, Poetry Reference Rhyming >>> Dictionary, Poetry Reference, Various Editions nN >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's >>> free from AOL at *AOL.com* >> 1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com>. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New-Poetry mailing list >>> New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >>> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry >> >> >> >> "language--the Riviera of consciousness" >> --Bob Perelman >> >> Halvard Johnson >> ================ >> halvard at gmail.com >> halvard at earthlink.net >> http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard > 7Ehalvard> >> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http:// >> imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com >> http://www.hamiltonstone.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New-Poetry mailing list >> New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry >> > > -- > Tad Richards > http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ > http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry From Opus40-01 at opus40.org Thu Mar 29 12:11:08 2007 From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:11:08 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <5A81667B-3E71-46E9-8543-FC7F1401A8D5@earthlink.net> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> <5F17CA9C-FAC3-47D4-B1B7-03C75CB35E03@earthlink.net> <460BDF61.9080604@opus40.org> <5A81667B-3E71-46E9-8543-FC7F1401A8D5@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <460BE51C.8030709@opus40.org> That's actually almost what we have. Halvard Johnson wrote: > Imagine the list we'd have if we included all the books that all > those folks *would* have. > > Hal > > "Take what you can use and let the rest go by." > --Ken Kesey > > Halvard Johnson > ================ > halvard at gmail.com > halvard at earthlink.net > http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard > http://entropyandme.blogspot.com > http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com > http://www.hamiltonstone.org > > On Mar 29, 2007, at 9:46 AM, TheOldMole wrote: > >> So would mine, but if we started throwing out books on the basis of >> Let's get rid of everything Hal wouldn't have, followed by everything >> Tad wouldn't have, followed by everything Bob wouldn't have, followed >> by everything Dillon wouldn't have, followed by everything Ron >> Silliman wouldn't have, followed by everything Anny and Jim and Sam >> Gwynn and David Graham (well, he'd have a lot more than rest of us, >> because he's a better person) and Joe Duemer and Dana Gioia and Susan >> Howe wouldn't have, you're going to end up with not much of a list. >> So I bote for inclusivity, >> >> Halvard Johnson wrote: >>> I was tempted to say, for starters, to omit all the books *about* >>> poetry, but then there'd be little left here. So, I'll say omit *most* >>> of the books about poetry, dictionaries of terms, handbooks, etc. >>> Then I'd start to add in books that poets can *use*: e.g., >>> collections of poems (even some anthologies of poems), works of >>> prose that poets, in some way, can *use*: e.g., almost anything by >>> Joyce, >>> Thoreau, Mishima, Stein, etc. etc. >>> >>> In short, my ideal library would be very, very different. But, hey, >>> you knew that already, right? I'd like to keep it down to about >>> five titles. I'll let you know which five . . . well, what year is >>> it now? >>> >>> Hal >>> >>> "language--the Riviera of consciousness" >>> --Bob Perelman >>> >>> Halvard Johnson >>> ================ >>> halvard at gmail.com >>> halvard at earthlink.net >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard >>> >>> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com >>> http://www.hamiltonstone.org >>> >>> On Mar 28, 2007, at 7:54 PM, jforjames at aol.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> A while back we had a thread that started under the caption "Books >>>> a Poet Should Own" and evolved into the "Poet's Ideal Library." >>>> Margery Snyde ( http://poetry.about.com/ ) reminded me that I >>>> promised to compile a book list from the various posts. I did that. >>>> Edited it somewhat, deleting those titles that seemed too far >>>> afield. And I added a good number titles, concentrating on Essays >>>> (poetry/art/aesthetics), Literary Criticism/Theory, Practical Texts >>>> & Guidebooks (but not of an introductory nature) and a few other >>>> odd titles. I decided not include Anthologies unless the >>>> introductory/thesis esssay was as important as the poems collected >>>> in support of the thesis. Similarly I neglected reference books >>>> that were not directly related to poetry. >>>> Sorted alpha by author/editor, this list continues to be open to >>>> suggestions/corrections and an impossible work in progress.... >>>> A Glossary of Literary Terms, M.H.Abrams, Literary Reference, Holt >>>> Rinehart Winston 1988 >>>> Selected Writing of Guillaume Apollinaire, Guillaume Apollinaire >>>> (R. Shattuck, trans.), Poetry Essays, New Directions 1971 >>>> The Poetics, Aristotle, Poetry Essays, Various Editions >>>> Essays Literary & Critical by Matthew Arnold, Matthew Arnold, >>>> Poetry Essays, JM Dent & Son 1906 >>>> Poetic Rhythm: An Introduction, Derek Attridge, Formalism, Metrics, >>>> Cambridge U. Press 1996 >>>> The Dyer's Hand, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 >>>> Forewords & Afterwords, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 >>>> Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, Erich >>>> Auerbach, Literary Criticism, Doubleday Anchor Books 1957 >>>> The Poetics of Reverie, Gaston Bachelard, Philosophy/Aesthetics, >>>> Beacon Press 1971 >>>> The Poetics of Space, Gaston Bachelard (Maria Jolas, trans.), >>>> Philosophy/Aesthetics ,Beacon Press 1969 >>>> Onward: Contemporary Poetry & Poetics, Peter Baker, Poetry Essays, >>>> Peter Lang Publishing 1996 >>>> An Owen Barfield Reader Owen Barfield, Poetry Criticism, Wesleyan >>>> U. Press 1999 >>>> The Art of Writing: Teachings of the Chinese Masters, Tony >>>> Barnstone & Chou Ping, trans., Poetry Essays, Shambhala 1996 >>>> The Making of the Auden Canon , Jos. Warren Beach, Poetry >>>> Criticism, Russell & Russell 1971 Illuminations, Walter Benjamin, >>>> Literary Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 >>>> Reflections, Walter Benjamin (Peter Demetz, ed.), Literary >>>> Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 >>>> Content's Dream, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Sun & Moon 1986 >>>> A Poetics, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press 1992 >>>> Anxiety of Influence (2nd edition), Harold Bloom, Literary >>>> Criticism, Oxford U. Press 1987 >>>> Leaping Poetry, Robert Bly, Poetry Essay & Anthology News of the >>>> Universe, Robert Bly, Poetry Essays & Anthology, Sierra Club Books >>>> 1980 >>>> A Poet's Alphabet: Reflections on the Literary Art & Vocation, >>>> Louise Bogan (Robt. Phelps & Ruth Limmer, eds.), Poetry Essays, >>>> McGraw Hill 1970 >>>> Object Lessons, Eavan Boland, Poetry Essays, Norton 1995 >>>> The Act and the Place of Poetry, Yves Bonnefoy, Poetry Essays, U. >>>> of Chicago Press 1989 >>>> Borges Selected Non-Fictions, Jorge Luis Borges, Poetry & Writing, >>>> Penguin 2000 >>>> Borges On Writing, Jorge Luis Borges (di Giovanni, Macshane, >>>> Halpern, interviewers), Interviews, Ecco Press 1972 >>>> In the Blue Pharmacy: Essays on Poetry and Other Transformations, >>>> Marianne Boruch,Poetry Essays, Trinity U. Press 2005 >>>> Yeats at Work, Curtis Bradford, ed., Poetry Manuscript Analysis, >>>> Southern Illinois Univ. Press 1965 >>>> The Well-Wrought Urn, Cleanth Brooks, Poetry Criticism, Harvest >>>> Books 1956 >>>> The Main of Light: On the Concept of Poetry, Justus Buchler, >>>> Philosophy, Oxford 1974 >>>> The Philosophy of Literary Form: Studies in Symbolic Action, >>>> Kenneth Burke, Essays: Poetry, Philosophy, Vintage 1941 >>>> A Phlosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime >>>> and Beautiful, Edmund Burke (J. T. Boulton, ed.), >>>> Philosophy/Aesthetics, U. of Notre Dame Press 1968 >>>> Selected Essays & Reviews, Hayden Carruth, Poetry Essays, Copper >>>> Canyon 1996 >>>> Language and Myth, Ernst Cassirer, Philosophy, Dover 1953 >>>> How Does A Poem Mean, John Ciardi, Poetry Essays, Houghton Mifflin >>>> 1959 >>>> Biographia Literaria, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Literary Essays, >>>> Various Editions The Language of Criticism & the Structure of >>>> Poetry, R.S. Crane, Literary Criticism, U. of Toronto 1953 >>>> Selected Writing of Charles Olson, Robert Creeley, editor, Poetry >>>> Essays, New Directions 1966 >>>> Poetry & Literature: An Introduction to Its Criticism and History, >>>> Benedetto Croce (Giovanni Gullace, trans.), Literary Criticism, S. >>>> Illinois U. Press 1981 >>>> The Problem of Style, J.V. Cunningham, Literary Essays, Fawcett >>>> Publications 1966 >>>> Poetry As Persuasion, Carl Dennis, Poetry Essays, U. of Georgia >>>> Press 2001 >>>> Poetry in our Time, Babette Deutsch, Poetry Criticism, Columbia U. >>>> Press 1952 >>>> Art as Experience, John Dewey, Philosophy, Perigree Books 1980 >>>> Sorties, James Dickey, Poetry Essays, LSU Press 1971 >>>> Walking Light, Stephen Dunn, Poetry Essays, Boa Editions 2001 >>>> The Use of Poetry & the Use of Criticism, T.S. Eliot, Poetry >>>> Criticism, Faber & Faber 1933 >>>> The Modern Tradition, Richard Ellman & Chas. Fieldelson, Jr., eds., >>>> Literary, Cultural & Art Essays,Oxford 1965 >>>> Complete Essays & Other Writings by Ralph Waldo Emerson, Ralph >>>> Waldo Emerson, Poetry Essays & Philosophy, Modern Library 1950 >>>> Seven Types of Ambiguity, William Empson, Poetry Criticism, New >>>> Directions 1966 >>>> Expansive Poetry: Essays on the New Narrative and New Formalism, >>>> Frederick Feirstein, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1989 >>>> The Ghost of Meter: Culture & Prosody in American Free Verse, Annie >>>> Finch, Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2000 >>>> An Exaltation of Forms, Annie Finch & Katherine Varnes, eds., >>>> Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2002 >>>> Romantic Criticism 1800-1850, R.A. Foakes, ed., Poetry Essays. >>>> Arnold Publishers 1968 >>>> A Field Guide to Contemporary Poetics Stuart Friebert, David Walker >>>> & David Young, eds., Poetry Essays, Oberlin College Press 1997 >>>> Robert Frost on Writing, Robert Frost (Elaine Barry, editor), >>>> Poetry Essays, Rutgers 1973 >>>> Selected Prose of Robert Frost, Robert Frost (H. Cox & E.C. Lathem, >>>> eds.), Collier Books 1968 >>>> Feeling As A Foreign Language: The Good Strangeness of Poetry, >>>> Alice Fulton, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1999 >>>> Poetic Meter & Poetic Form (revised edition), Paul Fussell, >>>> Formalism?Metrics, Random House 1979 >>>> The Poet's Work: 29 Masters of the 20th Century Poetry on the >>>> Origin and Practice of Their Art, Reginald Gibbons, ed., Poetry >>>> Essays, Houghton Mifflin 1979 Twentieth-Century American Poetics: >>>> Poets on the Art of Poetry, Dana Gioia, David Mason & Meg Schoerke, >>>> eds., Poetics, McGraw Hill 2003 >>>> Can Poetry Matter?: Essays on Poetry & American Culture, Dana >>>> Gioia, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1992 >>>> Proofs & Theories, Louise Gl?ck,Poetry Essays. Ecco Press 1994 >>>> The Collected Works: Essays on Art & Literature, Johann Wolfgang >>>> von Goethe (John Gearey, editor), Essays: Art & Poetry, Princeton >>>> U. Press 1986 >>>> The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth, Robert >>>> Graves, Poetry Essay, Farrar Straus Giroux 1966 >>>> Oxford Addresses on Poetry, Robert Graves, Poetry Essays, Doubleday >>>> 1962 >>>> The Sighted Singer: Two Works on Poetry for Readers and Writers, >>>> Allen R. Grossman (Mark Halliday, interviewer), Poetics, Johns >>>> Hopkins U. Press 1991 Of Manywhere-at-Once, Bob Grumman, Poetry >>>> Essays New Expansive Poetry, R.S. Gwynn, ed., Poetry Essays, Story >>>> Line Press 1995 >>>> Goatfoot Milktongue Twinbird: Interviews, Essays, and Notes on >>>> Poetry, 1970-76, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1978 >>>> Poetry & Ambition, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press >>>> 1988 >>>> Twentieth Century Pleasures, Robert Hass, Poetry Essays, Ecco Press >>>> 1984 >>>> Robert Hayden: Collected Prose, Robert Hayden (F. Glaysher, ed.; >>>> foreword by Wm. Meredith), Literary Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1984 >>>> Preoccupations: Selected Prose 1968-78, Seamus Heaney, Poetry >>>> Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 >>>> The Redress of Poetry. Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, Farrar Straus >>>> Giroux 1995 >>>> Poetry, Language, Thought, Martin Heidegger (trans. by Albert >>>> Hofstadter), Philosophy, Harper Colophon Books 1975 >>>> Strong Words: Modern Poets on Modern Poetry, W.N. Herbert & Matthew >>>> Hollis, eds., Poetry Essays, Bloodaxe Books 2000 >>>> Nine Gates: Entering the Mind of Poetry Jane Hirshfield Poetry >>>> Essays, HarperCollins 1997 >>>> Metre, Rhythm and Verse Form, Philip Hobsbaum, Formalism/ Metrics, >>>> Routledge 1999 >>>> Essentials Of Literary Criticism,Philip Hobsbaum, Poetry Criticism, >>>> 1983 >>>> Tradition and Experiment in English Poetry, Philip Hobsbaum. Poetry >>>> Criticism 1979 >>>> Rhyme's Reason, John Hollander, Formalism/Metrics, Yale U. Press 1981 >>>> My Emily Dickinson, Susan Howe, Poetry Criticism, North Atlantic >>>> Books 1985 >>>> Donald Justice in Conversation, Philip Hoy, interviewer, >>>> Interviews The Triggering Town, Richard Hugo, Poetry Essays, >>>> Norton 1979 >>>> Speculations: Essays on Humanism & Philsophy of Art, T.E. Hulme, >>>> Philosophy Essays, Routledge & Kegan Paul 1987 >>>> The Auden Generation, Samuel Hynes, Poetry Criticism, Princeton U. >>>> Press 1982 >>>> The Failure of Poetry, The Promise of Language, Laura (Riding) >>>> Jackson (John Nolan, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan 2007 >>>> The Instant of Knowing, Josephine Jacobsen, Poetry Essay, Library >>>> of Congress (pamphlet) The Reaper Essays, Mark Jarman & Robert >>>> McDowell, Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1996 >>>> Kipling, Auden & Company: Essays & Reviews 1935-1964, Randall >>>> Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 >>>> Poetry and The Age, Randall Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews. >>>> Vintage 1959 >>>> The Complete Perfectionist: A Poetics of Work, Juan Ramon Jim?nez >>>> (Christopher Maurer, trans. & ed.), Poetry Aphorisms, Doubleday 1997 >>>> Donald Justice Reader, Donald Justice, Poetry Essays, University >>>> Press of New England 2003 The Pound Era, Hugh Kenner, Poetry >>>> Criticism, U. of California 1971 >>>> The Romantic Image, Frank Kermode, Literary Criticism, Vintage 1964 >>>> The Poetry of Criticism: Horace Epistles II and Ars Poetica, Rpss >>>> S. Kirkpatrick, Poetry Criticism, U. of Alberta Press 1990 >>>> Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, >>>> Melissa Kwasny, ed., Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 2004 >>>> Feeling and Form, Susanne K.Langer, Philosophy/Aesthetics , Chas. >>>> Scribners 1953 >>>> Paul Val?ry: An Anthology, James Lawler, editor, Art & Literary >>>> Essays, Routledge 1977 >>>> Russian Formalist Criticism: Four Essays, L.T. Lemon & M.J. Reis, >>>> trans., Literary Criticism, U. of Nebraska Press 1965 >>>> Light Up the Cave, Denise Levertov, Poetry New Directions New & >>>> Selected Essays, Denise Levertov, Poetry Essays, New Directions 1992 >>>> Stone Cottage: Pound, Yeats & Modernism James, Logenbach, Poetry >>>> Criticism, Oxford 1998 >>>> On the Sublime, Loginius, Aesthetics, Various Editions In Search of >>>> Duende, Federico Garcia Lorca (N. T. DiGiovanni & C. Maurer, >>>> trans.), Essays, New Directions 1999 >>>> Poetry & Experience, Archibald MacLeish, Poetry Essays, Houghton >>>> Mifflin 1960 >>>> Creative Intuition in Art & Poetry, Jacques Maritain, Poetry & Art >>>> Essays, Pantheon 1953 >>>> Versification: A Short Introduction, James McAuley, >>>> Formalism/Metrics. Michigan State U. Press 1966 >>>> Worlds into Words: Understanding Modern Poems, Diane Middlebrook, >>>> Poetry Criticism, Norton 1980 >>>> The Witness of Poetry, Czeslaw Milosz, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. >>>> Press 1983 >>>> Selected Essays of Eugenio Montale, Eugenio Montale (Jonathan >>>> Galassi, trans.), Poetry Essays, Ecco 1982 >>>> Predilections: literary essays, Marianne Moore, Poetry Essays, >>>> Viking Press 1955 >>>> The Bedford Glossary of Critical & Literary Terms, Ross Murfin & >>>> Supryia M. Ray, Literary Reference, Bedford 1997 >>>> Basic Writings of Nietzsche, Friedrich Nietzsche, >>>> Philosophy/Aesthetics, Modern Library 2000 >>>> Rules for the Dance: Handbook for Writing & Reading Metrical Verse, >>>> Mary Oliver, Formalism/Metrics, Mariner Books 1998 >>>> A Poetry Handbook, Mary Oliver, Poetry Reference, Harvest Books 1994 >>>> The Other Voice, Octavio Paz, Poetry Essays, Harvest Books 1992 >>>> The Bow & the Lyre, Octavio Paz, U. of Texas Press 1973 >>>> Poetics of Inderterminacy: Rimbaud to Cage, Majorie Perloff, Poetry >>>> Criticism, Princeton U. Press 1981 >>>> The Sounds of Poetry: A Brief Guide, Robert Pinsky, >>>> Formalism/Metrics, Farrar Straus Giroux 1998 >>>> Poetry And The World, Robert Pinsky, Poetry Criticism, Ecco Press 1988 >>>> Selected Prose: 1909-1965, Ezra Pound, Literary Essays, New >>>> Directions ABC of Reading, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New >>>> Directions 1934 >>>> Guide to Kulchur, Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions >>>> Literary Essays Ezra Pound, Poetry Essays, New Directions The >>>> Imagist Poem, William Pratt, ed., Poetry Criticism, Dutton The >>>> Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetics (3rd Edition), Alex Preminger, >>>> ed., Poetry Reference, Princeton U. Press 1993 >>>> Like a Writer, Francine Prose, Writing Essays >>>> Disjunctive Poetics: From Gertrude Stein and Louis Zukofsky to >>>> Susan Howe, Peter Quatermain, Poetry Criticism, Cambridge 1992 >>>> Exercises in Style, Raymond Queneau, Writing Essay in Versions of >>>> Single Story, New Directions 1981 >>>> Assays, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry & Literary Essays, New Directions 1961 >>>> American Poetry in the Twentieth Century, Kenneth Rexroth, Poetry >>>> Essays, Continuum Book 1973 >>>> Blood, Bread and Poetry: Selected Prose, 1979-1986, Adrienne Rich, >>>> Poetry Essays, Norton 1986 >>>> On Lies, Secrets and Silence: Selected Prose, 1966-1978, Adrienne >>>> Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 >>>> What Is Found There: Notebooks on Poetry and Politics, Adrienne >>>> Rich, Poetry Essays, Norton 1993 >>>> Practical Criticism, I. A. Richards, Literary Criticism, Harvest >>>> Books 1956 >>>> Letters on Cezanne, Rainer Maria Rilke (ed. Clara Rilke; trans. by >>>> Joel Agee), Art Essays, Fromme International 1985 >>>> Where Silence Reigns: Selected Prose, Rainer Maria Rilke (G. Craig >>>> Houston, trans.), Poetry Essays New Directions 1978 >>>> Letters to a Young Poet Rainer Maria Rilke (M. D. Herter, trans.), >>>> Poetry Essays, Norton 1934 >>>> Straw for the Fire: From the Notebooks of Theodore Roethke >>>> 1943-1963, Theodore Roethke (David Wagoner, ed.), Poet's Journal, >>>> Doubleday 1972 >>>> On the Poet and His Craft: Selected Prose, Theodore Roethke (Ralph >>>> J. Mills, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Washington Press 1965 >>>> The Dream of the Marsh Wren, Patiann Rogers, Poetry Essays, >>>> Milkweed Editions 1999 >>>> The Modern Poetic Sequence, M.L.Rosenthal & Sally M. Gall, U. of >>>> Oxford Press 1983 >>>> The Life of Poetry, Muriel Rukeyser, Poetry Essays, Paris Press 1996 >>>> The World of Poetry: Poets & Critics on the Art & Function of >>>> Poetry, Clive Sansom, ed., Poetry Quotes, Phoenix House 1959 >>>> Na?ve & Sentimental Poetry - On the Sublime, Friedrich von >>>> Schiller, Philosophy, Poetry, Aesthetics, Frederick Ungar >>>> Publishing 1966 >>>> Dialogue on Poetry and Literary Aphorisms, Friedrich Schlegel >>>> (trans. by Behler & Struc), Poetics, Penn. St. Univ. Press 1968 >>>> John Dryden on Dramatic Poetry and other critical essays, George >>>> Watson, ed., Poetry Essays, J.M. Dent & Sons 1962 >>>> Lives of the Poets, Michael Schmidt, Poetry Bios and Commentary, >>>> Vintage 2000 >>>> Schopenhauer: Essays & Aphorisms, Arthur Schopenhauer (RJ >>>> Hollingdale, trans.), Philosophy Penguin 1970 >>>> A Poet's Journal: Days of 1945-1951, George Seferis, Poet's >>>> Journal, Belknap (Harvard U. Press) 1974 >>>> Prose Keys to Modern Poetry, Karl Shapiro, ed., Poetry Essays, U. >>>> of Nebraska Press 1962 >>>> A Defence of Poetry, Sir Philip Sidney, Poetry Essay, Various >>>> Editions Leopardi and the Theory of Poetry, G. Singh, Literary >>>> Criticism. U. of Kentucky Press 1964 >>>> A Poet's Notebook, Edith Sitwell, Poetry Quotes, Macmillan & Co. 1944 >>>> De/Compositions, W.S. Snodgrass, Poetry Praxis, Graywolf Press 2001 >>>> The Making of a Poem, Stephen Spender, Poetry Essays, Norton 1962 >>>> House That Jack Built: Cthe Collected Lectures of Jack Spicer, Jack >>>> Spicer (ed. Peter Gizzi), Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 1998 >>>> Where The Angels Come Toward Us, David St. John, Poetry Essays, >>>> White Pine Press 1995 >>>> Apreciation: Paintin, Poetry and Prose, Leo Stein, Art Essays, >>>> Random House 1947 >>>> Writing the Australian Crawl, William Stafford, Poetry Essays, U. >>>> of Michigan Press 1978 >>>> Missing Measures: Moderh Poetry and the Revolt Against Meter, >>>> Timonthy Steele, Poetry Essays, U. of Arkansas Press 1990 >>>> How Writing is Written: Volume II of the Previously Uncollected >>>> Writings, Gertrude Stein (Robert Bartlett Haas, ed.), Essays, Black >>>> Sparrow Press 1974 >>>> The Necessary Angel: Essays on Reality & the Imagination, Wallace >>>> Stevens, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1951 >>>> Sur Plusiers Beaux Sujects: Wallace Stevens' Commonplace Books, >>>> Wallace Stevens (Milton Bates, ed.), Poet's Commonplace Book, >>>> Stanford U. Press 1989 >>>> Poetry and the Fate of the Senses, Susan Stewart, Poetry Essays, >>>> University of Chicago Press 2002 >>>> Theories & Documents of Contemporary Art: A Source Book of Artist's >>>> Writings, Kristine Stiles & Peter Selz, eds., Art Essays U. of >>>> California 1996 >>>> The Three Perfections: Chinese Painting, Poetry, and Calligraphy, >>>> Michael Sullivan, Poetry & Art, George Braziller 1999 >>>> The Book of Forms: A Handbook of Poetics (3rd Edition), Lewis >>>> Turco, Formalism/Metrics, U. of New England Press 2000 >>>> 45 Contemporary Poems: The Creative Process, Albeta Turner, Poetry >>>> Praxis, Longman 1985 >>>> Lives of the Poets: The Story of One Thousand Years of English & >>>> American Poetry, Louis Untermeyer, Short Biographical Essays, >>>> Replica Books 1999 >>>> Introduction to Poetry: Commentaries on Thirty Poems, Mark Van >>>> Doren, Poetry Essays, Hill & Wang 1968 >>>> Lives of the Artists, Giorgio Vasari (E. L. Seeley, trans.), Artist >>>> Biographies, Noonday 1957 >>>> Soul Says, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, Harvard U. Press 1995 >>>> Words Chosen Out of Desire, Helen Vendler, Literary Criticism, U. >>>> of Tenn. Press 1984 >>>> Telling It Slant: Avant Garde Poetics in the 1990s, Mark Wallace, >>>> Poetry Essays, U. of Alabama Press 2001 >>>> Nineteen Ways of Looking at Wang Wei, Eliot Weinberger & Octavio >>>> Paz, editors, Poetry Essay, Moyer Bell 1987 >>>> Concepts of Criticism, Ren? Wellek, Literary Criticism, Yale U. >>>> Press 1963 >>>> The Embodiment of Knowledge, William Carlos William, Poetry Essays, >>>> New Directions 1974 >>>> Selected Essays of William Carlos. Williams William Carlos, Poetry >>>> Essays, New Directions 1969 >>>> In Defense of Reason, Yvor Winters, Poetry Essays, U. of Denver >>>> Press 1937 >>>> The Japanese Haiku, Kenneth Yasuda, Poetry Criticism, Chas. E. >>>> Tuttle 1957 >>>> Essays & Introductions, W. B. Yeats, Literary Essays,Collier Books >>>> 1961 >>>> A Defence of Ardor, Adam Zagajewski (Clare Cavanaugh, trans.), >>>> Poetry and Art Essays, Farrar Straus Giroux 2004 >>>> Multum in Parvo: an essay in poetic imagination, Carl Zigrosser, >>>> Poetry Essays, George Braziller 1965 >>>> Lyrical Philosophy, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, U. of Toronto >>>> Press 1992 >>>> Wisdom & Metaphor, Jan Zwicky, Poetry, Philosophy, Gaspereau Press >>>> 2003 >>>> Dictionary of World Literature, Poetry Reference The Greenwood >>>> Encyclopedia of American Poetry, Poetry Reference Rhyming >>>> Dictionary, Poetry Reference, Various Editions nN >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's >>>> free from AOL at *AOL.com* >>>> . >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New-Poetry mailing list >>>> New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >>>> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry >>> >>> >>> >>> "language--the Riviera of consciousness" >>> --Bob Perelman >>> >>> Halvard Johnson >>> ================ >>> halvard at gmail.com >>> halvard at earthlink.net >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard >>> >>> http://entropyandme.blogspot.com http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com >>> http://www.hamiltonstone.org >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New-Poetry mailing list >>> New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >>> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry >>> >> >> --Tad Richards >> http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ >> http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New-Poetry mailing list >> New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu >> http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- Tad Richards http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ From bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Thu Mar 29 14:13:12 2007 From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net (Bob Grumman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:13:12 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com><5F17CA9C-FAC3-47D4-B1B7-03C75CB35E03@earthlink.net> 460BDF61.9080604@opus40.org Message-ID: <00e501c7722d$eb94c9c0$3afad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> I'd have them all, if I could afford them, and had space for them. I'm not against the presence of any poetry-related books, but against the absence of poetry-related books that cover territory not covered by the standard poetry-related books. --Bob G. From grahamd at ripon.edu Thu Mar 29 13:19:18 2007 From: grahamd at ripon.edu (David Graham) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:19:18 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <460BE51C.8030709@opus40.org> Message-ID: I wish I had time to jump in on the discussion more fully, but alas. Of course a comprehensive list is impossible, but fun to contemplate. But in some ways I'm more interested in a Desert Island list that folks might come up with, since by definition such short lists reveal things, sometimes even interesting things. My own Desert Island bag would have nothing but poetry, probably--no critical prose at all. The Norton Anthology of Eng. Lit would be a good start, then of course collected editions of my personal pantheon, including Shakespeare, Whitman, Dickinson, Frost, Williams. But if I were allowed a second carry-on just for prose, I'd first reach for Randall Jarrell's essays. On 3/29/07 11:11 AM, "TheOldMole" wrote: > That's actually almost what we have. > > Halvard Johnson wrote: >> Imagine the list we'd have if we included all the books that all >> those folks *would* have. >> >> Hal ==================================================== David Graham grahamd at ripon.edu Home Page: http://www.ripon.edu/academics/faculty/GrahamD/index.html Poetry Library: http://www.ripon.edu/academics/faculty/GrahamD/poetrylib.html ==================================================== From anny.ballardini at tin.it Thu Mar 29 13:54:45 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:54:45 +0200 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library References: Message-ID: <012401c7722b$56317330$33a83452@ANNY> And if you had a third one? :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Graham" To: "NewPoetry" Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library >I wish I had time to jump in on the discussion more fully, but alas. Of > course a comprehensive list is impossible, but fun to contemplate. > > But in some ways I'm more interested in a Desert Island list that folks > might come up with, since by definition such short lists reveal things, > sometimes even interesting things. > > My own Desert Island bag would have nothing but poetry, probably--no > critical prose at all. The Norton Anthology of Eng. Lit would be a good > start, then of course collected editions of my personal pantheon, > including > Shakespeare, Whitman, Dickinson, Frost, Williams. > > But if I were allowed a second carry-on just for prose, I'd first reach > for > Randall Jarrell's essays. > > > On 3/29/07 11:11 AM, "TheOldMole" wrote: > >> That's actually almost what we have. >> >> Halvard Johnson wrote: >>> Imagine the list we'd have if we included all the books that all >>> those folks *would* have. >>> >>> Hal > > > ==================================================== > David Graham > grahamd at ripon.edu > Home Page: > http://www.ripon.edu/academics/faculty/GrahamD/index.html > Poetry Library: > http://www.ripon.edu/academics/faculty/GrahamD/poetrylib.html > ==================================================== > > > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > From editor at pavementsaw.org Thu Mar 29 17:08:22 2007 From: editor at pavementsaw.org (David Baratier) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [New-Poetry] Re: New-Poetry Digest, Vol 33, Issue 35 In-Reply-To: <200703291700.l2TH05cP020571@wiz.cath.vt.edu> Message-ID: <888064.84687.qm@web83803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Theory of Orange by Rachel M. Simon from Pavement Saw Press ISBN: 978-1-886350-45-8 is now available "Improvisation" is a quintessential Poem of Our Moment: fast moving and declarative, wobbling on the balance beam between associative and dissociative, somewhat absurdist, and, indeed, cerebral. Much talent and skill are evident in it's making, in its pacing and management of gaps, the hints and sound bites which keep the reader reaching forward for the lynchpin of coherence. One admirable aspect of the poem is the way it seems capable of incorporating anything... even as the poem implies a world without sequence, the poem itself has no consequence, no center of gravity, no body, no assertion of emotional value. --POETRY Hip, funny, moving and at times bizarre, this first outing from the Yonkers, N.Y.?based Simon stitches together the elegiac with the entertaining, the fragmentarily outr? with the clearly autobiographical: they make an attractive weave. The poems (almost all shorter than one page) include, as she phrases it, "getting-to-know-you-games," multiple tributes to summer camp and "family funerals." Several elegies appear to lament the friend and writer, dead at 21, to whom Simon dedicates the book. "Neither bitter nor embittered,/ non-eponymous but partially self-referential," Simon is also partial to self-portraits composed in apparently unrelated sentences; to in-jokes against writing-workshop platitudes ("No surprise for the writer,/ no surprise behind door number three there is never a car"); and to baffling one-line quips ("My blood is completely cheese"). She can wring comedy from nostalgia, and nostalgia from the detritus of modern childhood: "I hoped that/ by sending a box of twinkies/ you'd remember to remember me." Yet her flirtatious advertisements for herself double as postmodern queries into the dangerous culture of advertising, where men and women risk disappearing unless they find something new to say. (Feb.) ------Publishers Weekly In Theory of Orange, Rachel Simon aims her clear-eyed gaze at life?s odd, irresolvable circumstances and ?tells it slant.? Simon?s poems sparkle with freshness, verve, and above all, humanity. Understated wit, wry intelligence, and honed language are hallmarks of this decidedly original first collection. --Joan Larkin Book can be ordered using paypal direct from Pavement Saw at: http://www.pavementsaw.org/books/orange.htm or from the SPD website http://www.spdbooks.org/Details.asp?BookID=9781886350458 or by calling 1-800-869-7553 Be well David Baratier, Editor Pavement Saw Press PO Box 6291 Columbus, OH 43206 http://pavementsaw.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jforjames at aol.com Thu Mar 29 17:21:22 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:21:22 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <003401c771f0$a3b69490$3afad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> References: 8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com <003401c771f0$a3b69490$3afad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> Message-ID: <8C9405F55595F2E-A78-50E7@WEBMAIL-MB18.sysops.aol.com> Bob, give me the Classification, Press & Year for Manywhere. I didn't have that. Suggest a couple good vizpo titles... Is the The L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E Book essays or litcrit? Admittedly there lacunae to be filled in. Jim F -----Original Message----- From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library Of Manywhere-at-Once!? Whaazzat piece of &!!$@# doing on your list, James!? Seriously, I thank you. It belongs on it, if only because the list needs some book on visual and related poetries. Also something specifically on language poetry. I didn't notice anything. Ron Silliman should finally post rather than announce here and suggest langpo additions. The L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E Book, I should think obligatory. Fascinating list. A few titles I think very little of but an amazing quantity of very good books. My only other suggestion would be to take out the books about specific poets--unless they really say something about poetry in general unsaid elsewhere, which I doubt. Next step for Margery would be to get an informed review of each of the books on your list! --Bob G. _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jforjames at aol.com Thu Mar 29 17:22:58 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:22:58 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <460B2B5B.2020008@opus40.org> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> <460B2B5B.2020008@opus40.org> Message-ID: <8C9405F8ED93D9C-A78-50F7@WEBMAIL-MB18.sysops.aol.com> Thanks for these other titles, Tad. -----Original Message----- From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org Sent: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library Theory Of Literature by Rene Wellek and Austin Warren jforjames at aol.com wrote: > A while back we had a thread that started under the caption "Books a > Poet Should Own" and evolved into the "Poet's Ideal Library." Margery > Snyde ( http://poetry.about.com/ ) reminded me that I promised to > compile a book list from the various posts. I did that. Edited it > somewhat, deleting those titles that seemed too far afield. And I > added a good number titles, concentrating on Essays > (poetry/art/aesthetics), Literary Criticism/Theory, Practical Texts > & Guidebooks (but not of an introductory nature) and a few other odd > titles. I decided not include Anthologies unless the > introductory/thesis esssay was as important as the poems collected in > support of the thesis. Similarly I neglected reference books that were > not directly related to poetry. > > Sorted alpha by author/editor, this list continues to be open to > suggestions/corrections and an impossible work in progress.... > > A Glossary of Literary Terms, M.H.Abrams, Literary Reference, Holt > Rinehart Winston 1988 > Selected Writing of Guillaume Apollinaire, Guillaume Apollinaire (R. > Shattuck, trans.), Poetry Essays, New Directions 1971 > The Poetics, Aristotle, Poetry Essays, Various Editions > Essays Literary & Critical by Matthew Arnold, Matthew Arnold, Poetry > Essays, JM Dent & Son 1906 > Poetic Rhythm: An Introduction, Derek Attridge, Formalism, Metrics, > Cambridge U. Press 1996 > The Dyer's Hand, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Forewords & Afterwords, W.H. Auden, Poetry Essays, Vintage 1989 > Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, Erich > Auerbach, Literary Criticism, Doubleday Anchor Books 1957 > The Poetics of Reverie, Gaston Bachelard, Philosophy/Aesthetics, > Beacon Press 1971 > The Poetics of Space, Gaston Bachelard (Maria Jolas, trans.), > Philosophy/Aesthetics ,Beacon Press 1969 > Onward: Contemporary Poetry & Poetics, Peter Baker, Poetry Essays, > Peter Lang Publishing 1996 > An Owen Barfield Reader Owen Barfield, Poetry Criticism, Wesleyan U. > Press 1999 > The Art of Writing: Teachings of the Chinese Masters, Tony Barnstone & > Chou Ping, trans., Poetry Essays, Shambhala 1996 > The Making of the Auden Canon , Jos. Warren Beach, Poetry Criticism, > Russell & Russell 1971 > Illuminations, Walter Benjamin, Literary Criticism, Schoken Books 1978 > Reflections, Walter Benjamin (Peter Demetz, ed.), Literary Criticism, > Schoken Books 1978 > Content's Dream, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Sun & Moon 1986 > A Poetics, Charles Bernstein, Poetry Essays, Harvard U. Press 1992 > Anxiety of Influence (2nd edition), Harold Bloom, Literary Criticism, > Oxford U. Press 1987 > Leaping Poetry, Robert Bly, Poetry Essay & Anthology > News of the Universe, Robert Bly, Poetry Essays & Anthology, Sierra > Club Books 1980 > A Poet's Alphabet: Reflections on the Literary Art & Vocation, Louise > Bogan (Robt. Phelps & Ruth Limmer, eds.), Poetry Essays, McGraw Hill 1970 > Object Lessons, Eavan Boland, Poetry Essays, Norton 1995 > The Act and the Place of Poetry, Yves Bonnefoy, Poetry Essays, U. of > Chicago Press 1989 > Borges Selected Non-Fictions, Jorge Luis Borges, Poetry & Writing, > Penguin 2000 > Borges On Writing, Jorge Luis Borges (di Giovanni, Macshane, Halpern, > interviewers), Interviews, Ecco Press 1972 > In the Blue Pharmacy: Essays on Poetry and Other Transformations, > Marianne Boruch,Poetry Essays, Trinity U. Press 2005 > Yeats at Work, Curtis Bradford, ed., Poetry Manuscript Analysis, > Southern Illinois Univ. Press 1965 > The Well-Wrought Urn, Cleanth Brooks, Poetry Criticism, Harvest Books 1956 > The Main of Light: On the Concept of Poetry, Justus Buchler, > Philosophy, Oxford 1974 > The Philosophy of Literary Form: Studies in Symbolic Action, Kenneth > Burke, Essays: Poetry, Philosophy, Vintage 1941 > A Phlosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime and > Beautiful, Edmund Burke (J. T. Boulton, ed.), Philosophy/Aesthetics, > U. of Notre Dame Press 1968 > Selected Essays & Reviews, Hayden Carruth, Poetry Essays, Copper > Canyon 1996 > Language and Myth, Ernst Cassirer, Philosophy, Dover 1953 > How Does A Poem Mean, John Ciardi, Poetry Essays, Houghton Mifflin 1959 > Biographia Literaria, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Literary Essays, > Various Editions > The Language of Criticism & the Structure of Poetry, R.S. Crane, > Literary Criticism, U. of Toronto 1953 > Selected Writing of Charles Olson, Robert Creeley, editor, Poetry > Essays, New Directions 1966 > Poetry & Literature: An Introduction to Its Criticism and History, > Benedetto Croce (Giovanni Gullace, trans.), Literary Criticism, S. > Illinois U. Press 1981 > The Problem of Style, J.V. Cunningham, Literary Essays, Fawcett > Publications 1966 > Poetry As Persuasion, Carl Dennis, Poetry Essays, U. of Georgia Press 2001 > Poetry in our Time, Babette Deutsch, Poetry Criticism, Columbia U. > Press 1952 > Art as Experience, John Dewey, Philosophy, Perigree Books 1980 > Sorties, James Dickey, Poetry Essays, LSU Press 1971 > Walking Light, Stephen Dunn, Poetry Essays, Boa Editions 2001 > The Use of Poetry & the Use of Criticism, T.S. Eliot, Poetry > Criticism, Faber & Faber 1933 > The Modern Tradition, Richard Ellman & Chas. Fieldelson, Jr., eds., > Literary, Cultural & Art Essays,Oxford 1965 > Complete Essays & Other Writings by Ralph Waldo Emerson, Ralph Waldo > Emerson, Poetry Essays & Philosophy, Modern Library 1950 > Seven Types of Ambiguity, William Empson, Poetry Criticism, New > Directions 1966 > Expansive Poetry: Essays on the New Narrative and New Formalism, > Frederick Feirstein, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press 1989 > The Ghost of Meter: Culture & Prosody in American Free Verse, Annie > Finch, Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2000 > An Exaltation of Forms, Annie Finch & Katherine Varnes, eds., > Formalism/Metrics, U. of Michigan Press 2002 > Romantic Criticism 1800-1850, R.A. Foakes, ed., Poetry Essays. Arnold > Publishers 1968 > A Field Guide to Contemporary Poetics Stuart Friebert, David Walker & > David Young, eds., Poetry Essays, Oberlin College Press 1997 > Robert Frost on Writing, Robert Frost (Elaine Barry, editor), Poetry > Essays, Rutgers 1973 > Selected Prose of Robert Frost, Robert Frost (H. Cox & E.C. Lathem, > eds.), Collier Books 1968 > Feeling As A Foreign Language: The Good Strangeness of Poetry, Alice > Fulton, Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1999 > Poetic Meter & Poetic Form (revised edition), Paul Fussell, > Formalism?Metrics, Random House 1979 > The Poet's Work: 29 Masters of the 20th Century Poetry on the Origin > and Practice of Their Art, Reginald Gibbons, ed., Poetry Essays, > Houghton Mifflin 1979 > Twentieth-Century American Poetics: Poets on the Art of Poetry, Dana > Gioia, David Mason & Meg Schoerke, eds., Poetics, McGraw Hill 2003 > Can Poetry Matter?: Essays on Poetry & American Culture, Dana Gioia, > Poetry Essays, Graywolf Press 1992 > Proofs & Theories, Louise Gl?ck,Poetry Essays. Ecco Press 1994 > The Collected Works: Essays on Art & Literature, Johann Wolfgang von > Goethe (John Gearey, editor), Essays: Art & Poetry, Princeton U. Press > 1986 > The White Goddess: A Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth, Robert Graves, > Poetry Essay, Farrar Straus Giroux 1966 > Oxford Addresses on Poetry, Robert Graves, Poetry Essays, Doubleday 1962 > The Sighted Singer: Two Works on Poetry for Readers and Writers, Allen > R. Grossman (Mark Halliday, interviewer), Poetics, Johns Hopkins U. > Press 1991 > Of Manywhere-at-Once, Bob Grumman, Poetry Essays > New Expansive Poetry, R.S. Gwynn, ed., Poetry Essays, Story Line Press > 1995 > Goatfoot Milktongue Twinbird: Interviews, Essays, and Notes on Poetry, > 1970-76, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1978 > Poetry & Ambition, Donald Hall, Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1988 > Twentieth Century Pleasures, Robert Hass, Poetry Essays, Ecco Press 1984 > Robert Hayden: Collected Prose, Robert Hayden (F. Glaysher, ed.; > foreword by Wm. Meredith), Literary Essays, U. of Michigan Press 1984 > Preoccupations: Selected Prose 1968-78, Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, > Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > The Redress of Poetry. Seamus Heaney, Poetry Essays, Farrar Straus > Giroux 1995 > Poetry, Language, Thought, Martin Heidegger (trans. by Albert > Hofstadter), Philosophy, Harper Colophon Books 1975 > Strong Words: Modern Poets on Modern Poetry, W.N. Herbert & Matthew > Hollis, eds., Poetry Essays, Bloodaxe Books 2000 > Nine Gates: Entering the Mind of Poetry Jane Hirshfield Poetry Essays, > HarperCollins 1997 > Metre, Rhythm and Verse Form, Philip Hobsbaum, Formalism/ Metrics, > Routledge 1999 > Essentials Of Literary Criticism,Philip Hobsbaum, Poetry Criticism, 1983 > Tradition and Experiment in English Poetry, Philip Hobsbaum. Poetry > Criticism 1979 > Rhyme's Reason, John Hollander, Formalism/Metrics, Yale U. Press 1981 > My Emily Dickinson, Susan Howe, Poetry Criticism, North Atlantic Books > 1985 > Donald Justice in Conversation, Philip Hoy, interviewer, Interviews > The Triggering Town, Richard Hugo, Poetry Essays, Norton 1979 > Speculations: Essays on Humanism & Philsophy of Art, T.E. Hulme, > Philosophy Essays, Routledge & Kegan Paul 1987 > The Auden Generation, Samuel Hynes, Poetry Criticism, Princeton U. > Press 1982 > The Failure of Poetry, The Promise of Language, Laura (Riding) Jackson > (John Nolan, ed.), Poetry Essays, U. of Michigan 2007 > The Instant of Knowing, Josephine Jacobsen, Poetry Essay, Library of > Congress (pamphlet) > The Reaper Essays, Mark Jarman & Robert McDowell, Poetry Essays, Story > Line Press 1996 > Kipling, Auden & Company: Essays & Reviews 1935-1964, Randall Jarrell, > Poetry Essays & Reviews, Farrar Straus Giroux 1980 > Poetry and The Age, Randall Jarrell, Poetry Essays & Reviews. Vintage 1959 > The Complete Perfectionist: A Poetics of Work, Juan Ramon Jim?nez > (Christopher Maurer, trans. & ed.), Poetry Aphorisms, Doubleday 1997 > Donald Justice Reader, Donald Justice, Poetry Essays, University Press > of New England 2003 > The Pound Era, Hugh Kenner, Poetry Criticism, U. of California 1971 > The Romantic Image, Frank Kermode, Literary Criticism, Vintage 1964 > The Poetry of Criticism: Horace Epistles II and Ars Poetica, Rpss S. > Kirkpatrick, Poetry Criticism, U. of Alberta Press 1990 > Toward the Open Field: Poets on the Art of Poetry 1800-1950, Melissa > Kwasny, ed., Poetry Essays, Wesleyan U. Press 2004 > Feeling and Form, Susanne K.Langer, Philosophy/Aesthetics , Chas. > Scribners 1953 > Paul Val?ry: An Anthology, James Lawler, editor, Art & Literary > Essays, Routledge 1977 > Russian Formalist Criticism: Four Essays, L.T. Lemon & M.J. 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Find out more about what's free > from AOL at *AOL.com* > . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- Tad Richards http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grahamd at ripon.edu Thu Mar 29 17:30:25 2007 From: grahamd at ripon.edu (David Graham) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:30:25 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] FW: Knopf's Poem-a-Day begins next week! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ------ Forwarded Message From: knopfpoetry Reply-To: knopfpoetry Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Knopf's Poem-a-Day begins next week! Dear Poetry Lover, Nine years ago we began a Knopf tradition. To celebrate National Poetry Month, we sent a poem a day by e-mail for 30 days to anyone who asked to receive them. Now, with over 25,000 subscribers, we are proud to continue with a whole new series of daily poems. Each day during the month of April you will receive a poem from some of the best poets in the world including Mark Strand, Sharon Olds, and Laurie Sheck, as well as classics from Langston Hughes, Robert Burns and more. This year, we'll also be featuring audio clips from The Knopf National Poetry Month Collection, special printable broadsides, signed books and more. If you know of someone who might like to join the poem-a-day party, they may visit http://www.randomhouse.com/knopf/poetry/poemaday/ to sign up. Best Wishes, Jason Kincade, Knopf New Media knopfpoetry at randomhouse.com ------ End of Forwarded Message From jforjames at aol.com Thu Mar 29 17:30:44 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:30:44 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <5F17CA9C-FAC3-47D4-B1B7-03C75CB35E03@earthlink.net> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com> <5F17CA9C-FAC3-47D4-B1B7-03C75CB35E03@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8C94060A4DD7FD8-A78-514E@WEBMAIL-MB18.sysops.aol.com> Hal, All good suggestions...but the original thread 'guideline' suggested that we'd presume the poet's library was well stocked with favored poets and writers, anthologies, etc. This was meant to be primarily 'prose related to poetry'...of course even a casual turn thru these books would put one in presence of many poems quoted whole or excerpted. It's hard to write about without ample examples. Fiinnegan -----Original Message----- From: halvard at earthlink.net Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library I was tempted to say, for starters, to omit all the books *about* poetry, but then there'd be little left here. So, I'll say omit *most* of the books about poetry, dictionaries of terms, handbooks, etc. Then I'd start to add in books that poets can *use*: e.g., collections of poems (even some anthologies of poems), works of prose that poets, in some way, can *use*: e.g., almost anything by Joyce, Thoreau, Mishima, Stein, etc. etc. In short, my ideal library would be very, very different. But, hey, you knew that already, right? I'd like to keep it down to about five titles. I'll let you know which five . . . well, what year is it now? Hal ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jforjames at aol.com Thu Mar 29 17:37:49 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:37:49 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <00e501c7722d$eb94c9c0$3afad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com><5F17CA9C-FAC3-47D4-B1B7-03C75CB35E03@earthlink.net> 460BDF61.9080604@opus40.org <00e501c7722d$eb94c9c0$3afad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> Message-ID: <8C94061A22EF018-A78-51BF@WEBMAIL-MB18.sysops.aol.com> The ideal library is open source and imaginary. Name names of what missings...It's not possible to cover all but we can make it better together. -----Original Message----- From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library I'd have them all, if I could afford them, and had space for them. I'm not against the presence of any poetry-related books, but against the absence of poetry-related books that cover territory not covered by the standard poetry-related books. --Bob G. _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jforjames at aol.com Thu Mar 29 17:51:08 2007 From: jforjames at aol.com (jforjames at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:51:08 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8C940637DE8C0B9-A78-5244@WEBMAIL-MB18.sysops.aol.com> David, you're gonna need a bigger island. And palm trees make terrible bookcases. I want to officially suggest that this list title be changed to "Ars Poetica Library" and that 'ars poetica poems' are to be included, but only if they collected into an anthology (& I think there are a few of those volumes around). Finnegan -----Original Message----- From: grahamd at ripon.edu To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 1:19 PM Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library I wish I had time to jump in on the discussion more fully, but alas. Of course a comprehensive list is impossible, but fun to contemplate. But in some ways I'm more interested in a Desert Island list that folks might come up with, since by definition such short lists reveal things, sometimes even interesting things. My own Desert Island bag would have nothing but poetry, probably--no critical prose at all. The Norton Anthology of Eng. Lit would be a good start, then of course collected editions of my personal pantheon, including Shakespeare, Whitman, Dickinson, Frost, Williams. But if I were allowed a second carry-on just for prose, I'd first reach for Randall Jarrell's essays. On 3/29/07 11:11 AM, "TheOldMole" wrote: > That's actually almost what we have. > > Halvard Johnson wrote: >> Imagine the list we'd have if we included all the books that all >> those folks *would* have. >> >> Hal ==================================================== David Graham grahamd at ripon.edu Home Page: http://www.ripon.edu/academics/faculty/GrahamD/index.html Poetry Library: http://www.ripon.edu/academics/faculty/GrahamD/poetrylib.html ==================================================== _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Rsgwynn1 at cs.com Thu Mar 29 18:07:09 2007 From: Rsgwynn1 at cs.com (Rsgwynn1 at cs.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:07:09 EDT Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library Message-ID: In a message dated 3/29/2007 4:51:38 PM Central Daylight Time, jforjames at aol.com writes: > > I wish I had time to jump in on the discussion more fully, but alas. Of > course a comprehensive list is impossible, but fun to contemplate. > > But in some ways I'm more interested in a Desert Island list that folks > might come up with, since by definition such short lists reveal things, > sometimes even interesting things. > > My own Desert Island bag would have nothing but poetry, probably--no > critical prose at all. The Norton Anthology of Eng. Lit would be a good > start, then of course collected editions of my personal pantheon, including > Shakespeare, Whitman, Dickinson, Frost, Williams. > > But if I were allowed a second carry-on just for prose, I'd first reach for > Randall Jarrell's essays. > Would you really like to be stranded on a desert island without William Logan? Worse, with William Logan? I wouldn't set sail without my copy of The Stuffed Owl. By the way, does anyone remember The Brand-X Anthology of Poetry? It was a hoot, and copies now probably bring a goodly sum. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Opus40-01 at opus40.org Thu Mar 29 21:41:01 2007 From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:41:01 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library In-Reply-To: <8C94061A22EF018-A78-51BF@WEBMAIL-MB18.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com><5F17CA9C-FAC3-47D4-B1B7-03C75CB35E03@earthlink.net> 460BDF61.9080604@opus40.org <00e501c7722d$eb94c9c0$3afad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> <8C94061A22EF018-A78-51BF@WEBMAIL-MB18.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <460C6AAD.1010900@opus40.org> I'm probably just taking a good idea and running it into the ground, but it would be neat if we could get a brief description of each of these, from the people who nominated them. jforjames at aol.com wrote: > The ideal library is open source and imaginary. Name names of what > missings...It's not possible to cover all but we can make it better > together. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net > Sent: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 2:13 PM > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library > > I'd have them all, if I could afford them, and had space for them. I'm > not against the presence of any poetry-related books, but against the > absence of poetry-related books that cover territory not covered by > the standard poetry-related books. > > --Bob G. > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at *AOL.com* > . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- Tad Richards http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ From bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Fri Mar 30 07:28:36 2007 From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net (Bob Grumman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:28:36 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com><5F17CA9C-FAC3-47D4-B1B7-03C75CB35E03@earthlink.net> 460BDF61.9080604@opus40.org <00e501c7722d$eb94c9c0$3afad740@youro0kwkw9jwc><8C94061A22EF018-A78-51BF@WEBMAIL-MB18.sysops.aol.com> 460C6AAD.1010900@opus40.org Message-ID: <000b01c772be$98dd4860$c8fad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> > I'm probably just taking a good idea and running it into the ground, but > it would be neat if we could get a brief description of each of these, > from the people who nominated them. Or from anybody. Needless to say, the person who nominated Bob Grumman's Of Manywhere-at-Once was me. Here's what I wrote for its back cover: "Early in 1983 an obscure, severely middle-aged poet/critic named Bob Grumman began writing a 14-line poem (a sonnet, in fact). This too-odd-to-be-other-than-self-published book tells the story of his struggle of many years to get that poem right. More than that, it is a full-scale investigation of poetics, with numerous side-musings into poems by such past masters as Shakespeaere, Keats, Cummings, Pound, Yeats, Roethke and Stevens--as well as such poets of today as Karl Kempton, G. Huth, Crag Hill, Bob Grenier and John M. Bennett. It is, in fact, the world's first large-scale discussion of poetry to cover ALL extant varieties of it, including current visual poetry, infra-verbal poetry and "language poetry." Anyone who is interested in what words, or even mere letters, can say and be at their best, should find this book of value--and fun to read as well. This above is now out-of-date as the book doesn't deal with certain forms of computer poetry or animated poetry--and probably misses other new kinds. As far as I know, however, there is STILL no other book that covers of what's out there as it does. --Bob From anny.ballardini at tin.it Fri Mar 30 06:43:25 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:43:25 +0200 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library References: <8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com><5F17CA9C-FAC3-47D4-B1B7-03C75CB35E03@earthlink.net>460BDF61.9080604@opus40.org <00e501c7722d$eb94c9c0$3afad740@youro0kwkw9jwc><8C94061A22EF018-A78-51BF@WEBMAIL-MB18.sysops.aol.com>460C6AAD.1010900@opus40.org <000b01c772be$98dd4860$c8fad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> Message-ID: <00c501c772b8$3f2840a0$2cac3452@ANNY> Poor Bob, that's how and who friends are! From: "Bob Grumman" Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:28 PM > Needless to say, the person who nominated Bob Grumman's Of > Manywhere-at-Once was me. From anny.ballardini at tin.it Fri Mar 30 08:02:44 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:02:44 +0200 Subject: [New-Poetry] grammar explanation Message-ID: <00d501c772c3$54377be0$2cac3452@ANNY> Sent to me by a professor, I think it might interest you, also, :-) Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! Friedrich Nietzsche -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I saved most of it on a file I lost last year when my computer crashed, so I'm trying to restore it. --Bob G. From vitoraamaral at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 10:27:34 2007 From: vitoraamaral at yahoo.com (Vitor alevato) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [New-Poetry] grammar explanation Message-ID: <78583.52191.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Interesting! And he goes from definition to definition so fucking calmly. (laughs) Vitor Alevato ----- Original Message ---- From: Anny Ballardini To: New Poetry Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 9:02:44 AM Subject: [New-Poetry] grammar explanation Sent to me by a professor, I think it might interest you, also, :-) Anny Ballardini http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! 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Finnegan -----Original Message----- From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Sent: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:00 AM Subject: [New-Poetry] 2 Questions about New-Poetry I just visited the archive and could go back before 2005. Are earlier posts available? Second question: are the archives searchable? We had a discussion about Pound's "In a Station of the Metro" that I thought one of the best we've had. I saved most of it on a file I lost last year when my computer crashed, so I'm trying to restore it. --Bob G. _______________________________________________ New-Poetry mailing list New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I saved most of it on a file I > lost last year when my computer crashed, so I'm trying to restore it. > > --Bob G. > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- Tad Richards http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ From bmarcacci at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 13:04:00 2007 From: bmarcacci at gmail.com (Bob Marcacci) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:04:00 +0200 Subject: [New-Poetry] grammar explanation In-Reply-To: <78583.52191.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I thought this was by Monty Python... The Indian version was funny... -- Bob Marcacci Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. - Albert Einstein > From: Vitor alevato > Reply-To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" > > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:27:34 -0700 (PDT) > To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views" > > Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] grammar explanation > > Interesting! And he goes from definition to definition so fucking calmly. > (laughs) > > Vitor Alevato > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Anny Ballardini > To: New Poetry > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 9:02:44 AM > Subject: [New-Poetry] grammar explanation > > > Sent to me by a professor, I think it might interest you, also, > :-) > > > Anny Ballardini > http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/ > http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome > http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html > I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing star! > Friedrich Nietzsche > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > > > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > ______ > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: The Many Uses of the Word Fuck.mp3 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1200032 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Fri Mar 30 15:26:58 2007 From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net (Bob Grumman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:26:58 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Poet's Ideal Library References: 8C93FBC4DBAB9C9-958-2B5A@webmail-db02.sysops.aol.com<003401c771f0$a3b69490$3afad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> 8C9405F55595F2E-A78-50E7@WEBMAIL-MB18.sysops.aol.com Message-ID: <016401c77301$6483cfb0$c8fad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> Suggest a couple good vizpo titles... The only good broad-coverage book of criticism of visual poetry I know of (not counting my own, natch) is concerning concrete poetry, edited by Bob Cobbing and Peter Mayer. Writers Forum, England, 1978. Dick Higgins's Pattern Poetry: Guide to an Unknown Literature is good but covers only a small slice of the field. State University of New York Press, Albany, 1984. Is the The L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E Book essays or litcrit? Both, I would say. I frankly don't think much of it--because it is more about poetry as an assault on capitalism, etc., than as an art, and minimally discusses the nature and value of langpo techniques. I don't think any book does the latter. I'd love to have one that did, or have the time to go off with a bunch of langpo collections and write such a book myself, or at least notes toward such a book. --Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexdickow9 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 16:49:52 2007 From: alexdickow9 at yahoo.com (Alexander Dickow) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [New-Poetry] discussions In-Reply-To: <200703301702.l2UH20cQ013384@wiz.cath.vt.edu> Message-ID: <141900.74923.qm@web35506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Old Mole wrote: "We've had good discussions?" Bob meant *arguments*, I'm sure. ;) Anxiously waiting the arrival of all 4 of my *nuclear* French in-laws, Amicalement, Alex www.alexdickow.net/blog/ les mots! ah quel d?sert ? la fin merveilleux. -- Henri Droguet From bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Fri Mar 30 18:23:43 2007 From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net (Bob Grumman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:23:43 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] discussions References: 141900.74923.qm@web35506.mail.mud.yahoo.com Message-ID: <020f01c7731a$159d9020$c8fad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> > Old Mole wrote: "We've had good discussions?" > > Bob meant *arguments*, I'm sure. ;) Who, me?! You know, now that I think about it, I can't remember any arguments about the Pound poem, just observations. Maybe Marcus was away at the time. --Bob From Opus40-01 at opus40.org Fri Mar 30 17:48:02 2007 From: Opus40-01 at opus40.org (TheOldMole) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:48:02 -0400 Subject: [New-Poetry] discussions In-Reply-To: <020f01c7731a$159d9020$c8fad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> References: 141900.74923.qm@web35506.mail.mud.yahoo.com <020f01c7731a$159d9020$c8fad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> Message-ID: <460D8592.8050405@opus40.org> Where is Marcus these days? Bob Grumman wrote: >> Old Mole wrote: "We've had good discussions?" >> >> Bob meant *arguments*, I'm sure. ;) > > > Who, me?! You know, now that I think about it, I can't remember any > arguments about the Pound poem, just observations. Maybe Marcus was > away at the time. > > --Bob > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > -- Tad Richards http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/ http://opusforty.blogspot.com/ From bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net Fri Mar 30 19:38:48 2007 From: bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net (Bob Grumman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:38:48 -0500 Subject: [New-Poetry] Marcus References: 141900.74923.qm@web35506.mail.mud.yahoo.com<020f01c7731a$159d9020$c8fad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> 460D8592.8050405@opus40.org Message-ID: <000c01c77324$92d9e980$4ffad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> Marcus has been quiet. Pipes up at the Poetics discussion group now and then, it would seem, but hasn't gotten into and long drawn-outs with anyone. He's having a lot of poetry events at his gallery, many of them featuring off-the-wall poets, including visual poets. He did a good job with the visual poetry show I co-curated and cooperated reasonably well with me and the other curators. --Bob From anny.ballardini at tin.it Sat Mar 31 05:52:44 2007 From: anny.ballardini at tin.it (Anny Ballardini) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:52:44 +0200 Subject: [New-Poetry] Marcus References: 141900.74923.qm@web35506.mail.mud.yahoo.com<020f01c7731a$159d9020$c8fad740@youro0kwkw9jwc>460D8592.8050405@opus40.org <000c01c77324$92d9e980$4ffad740@youro0kwkw9jwc> Message-ID: <000c01c7737a$54d81480$13c93a52@ANNY> He also appears sometimes on the WOM-PO, almost a gentleman. From: "Bob Grumman" Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:38 AM > Marcus has been quiet. Pipes up at the Poetics discussion group now and > then, it would seem, but hasn't gotten into and long drawn-outs with > anyone. He's having a lot of poetry events at his gallery, many of them > featuring off-the-wall poets, including visual poets. He did a good job > with the visual poetry show I co-curated and cooperated reasonably well > with me and the other curators. > > --Bob > > > > _______________________________________________ > New-Poetry mailing list > New-Poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu > http://wiz.cath.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/new-poetry > From halvard at earthlink.net Sat Mar 31 13:05:07 2007 From: halvard at earthlink.net (Halvard Johnson) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:05:07 -0600 Subject: [New-Poetry] American Idler Message-ID: <14BB5233-AA36-4B03-8259-23459EE3288A@earthlink.net> American Idler (in the manner of Calvin Trillin) He lounges out back in the Rose Garden, listening to whatever songs come wafting through his iPod. In brief silences between tunes, he hears his god whisper, ?Next time, Iran before Iraq, except after C.? 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