[New-Poetry] Re: Substitution of Terms

Roger Day rog3r.day at gmail.com
Wed Jun 20 10:49:04 EDT 2007


umm "wikipoo": if you don't like it, change it.

Roger

On 6/18/07, Bob Grumman <bobgrumman at nut-n-but.net> wrote:
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> Hi Bob,
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> i'm reposting this wiki stuff on the term image. My concern is that broadly
> the use and foregrounding of such a term as Image lumps that which can be
> perceived by our senses way too much into the retinal and concepts related
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> sound, for example does begin to enter lower down on this def list but . . .
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> In common usage, an image (from Latin imago) or picture is an artifact that
> reproduces the likeness of some subject—usually a physical object or a
> person.
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> Images may be two dimensional, such as a photograph, or three dimensional
> such as in a statue. They are typically produced by optical devices—such as
> a cameras, mirrors, lenses, telescopes, microscopes, etc. and natural
> objects and phenomena, such as the human eye or water surfaces.
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> The word image is also used in the broader sense of any two-dimensional
> figure such as a map, a graph, a pie chart, or an abstract painting. In this
> wider sense, images can also be produced manually, such as by drawing,
> painting, carving, by computer graphics technology, or a combination of the
> two, especially in a pseudo-photograph.
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> A volatile image is one that exists only for a short period of time. This
> may be a reflection of an object by a mirror, a projection of a camera
> obscura, or a scene displayed on a cathode ray tube. A fixed image, also
> called a hardcopy, is one that has been recorded on a material object, such
> as paper or textile.
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> A mental image exists in an individual's mind: something one remembers or
> imagines. The subject of an image need not be real; it may be an abstract
> concept, such as a graph, function, or "imaginary" entity. For example,
> Sigmund Freud claimed to have dreamt purely in aural-images of dialogues.
> The development of synthetic acoustic technologies and the creation of sound
> art have led to a consideration of the possibilities of a sound-image
> comprised of irreducible phonic substance beyond linguistic or musicological
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> love and love
> cris
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> Sure seems as though you and I are on one side of what an image is, and
> Wikipedia is on the other, Cris.  I wouldn't say Wikipoo, as I call it, is
> always wrong, but always limited, and often wrong.  But maybe there's some
> term out there I'm unfamiliar with or for some obscure reason am blocked
> from that would cover a musical chord, for instance, or a smell, or all the
> other kinds of things not just visual that I would call images.  And maybe
> there's some general term that would cover visual image and all these other
> things.  In any case, thanks for the reply!
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> --Bob
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