[New-Poetry] Re: Substitution of Terms

[Anny Ballardini]

Do not know if I agree with your distinction of images and emotions :
I see emotions as being more sensual than images
and yes, you can have an emotional image
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Grumman 
  To: editor at pavementsaw.org ; NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &Views 
  Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Re: Substitution of Terms


  Follow-up.  Seems to me (without spending hours of thought on it) that we only experience three things: images, concepts and emotions.  Images are what we perceive sensually.  Concepts are abstract understandings of them (and may include images).  Emotions are simply the pain or pleasure they cause one to feel.  Can anyone think of anything else?

  --Bob
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: David Baratier 
    To: new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu 
    Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 4:12 PM
    Subject: [New-Poetry] Re: New-Poetry Digest, Vol 36, Issue 20


    In many strains of the art, poetry does not need or use images. Take Oulipo, Jackson MacLow or any other processed based poetry. The "field" and variations that appear on its surface perhaps become the interest that replaces the images but they are not images themselves. 

    "A more accurate way of  seeing it, for me: the film-maker starts with images 
    that he uses to create  ideas and emotions; the poet starts with words that he 
    uses to create ideas  and emotions . . . and images." --Bob G.





    Be well

    David Baratier, Editor

    Pavement Saw Press
    PO Box 6291
    Columbus, OH 43206
    http://pavementsaw.org 


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