[New-Poetry] Re: New-Poetry Digest, Vol 31, Issue 5
gbemi tijani-mst
hammerword2000 at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Jan 4 15:23:47 EST 2007
YES I CONCUR THAT POETRY HAS A SOCIAL FUNCTION POLITICALLY,PSYCHOLOGICALLY,SPIRITUALLY AND much more than just the intellectual exercise MOST WILL READILY ascribe its impact interiorly and exteriorly including its bouying effect on readers be they writers or poets themselves Or again as civic mandate protectors or genuine activists -how much more for enthusiasts...I
magine Marlowe 's WHO EVER LOVED, THAT DOES NOT LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT?This is simply an inevitable poetic vulnerability most people must have experienced then and now...i wish time permits more to afford contibutions to Susane Burns & this perennially valid poser by the ED ROBERTS-Does poetry have a social function? Sometimes poetry feeds mu soul satisfactorily to the extent i 'm somehow renewed in the actual sense of the word askance -it has a healing significance on ones total psyche partly because one goes to a strange or familiar poetry without force imbued with an expectation that a special language or philosophy will be emotionally or intellectually useful or at least be or become a substrate for further musing that's if ones not taken by the scruff of the neck instantly or presently...Atimes i cant even explain which one is practically indispensable to my holistic being ! - secular poetry or their professionally informed commentary especially the sustained fora
afforded by the internet and NEW POETRY Oor the transcedental sweetness of sacred ,biblical poetry a.Despite the latter 's special spiritual applications -their potency are also enhanced by poets annotationsand comments to simply and offer theoretical explanations of these archival literary sgacity.I dont think i dont love poetry -love poetry beyond the laughjing thighs and joyfully playfully erotic poetry-common to all intellects globally...i hope internet time will permit these selected poems-personal,political,panergyric
selected from my modest mind across the years-
gbemi tijani mst 4 107
04/01/078.55pm
selected poetry post by gbemi tijani mst
personal,political,panergyric with love merely or possibly as part of the pedagogical impact or harvest of poetry on pupils,students,adults,poets,writers of poetry,reviewers,song writers ,musicians ,dramatists,performers etc
Paralysis
We could’ve buoyed you with banter
Ha it been chloroform’s liniment is
Untreating you to sleep
We could’ve agreed with Madame to nurse
You with soap and camphor liniment
Had it not been closely linked genes
Interceded the cerebral pain...
We could’ve given you literary math
To detect alliterations had it not been
You were admitted paraparetic
Were you a known drunkard?
There could have been no doubting Thomas
In your diagnosis as the Sunday
Morning paralysis typical of
The Drunkard ‘s arm
Had it been you were awake
Often times we called at the East Ward
We could’ve given liberty
To your muscles in pyramidal control
Sleep paralysis not wanted!
That barrier shouldn’t come your way
O friend poetic!
You’ll be marvelous to your travail
You‘re a maverick in your trado-musings
You should be master of your tears (if any more)
You should be discharged near your
Trigger-delight love lord
Your pencil-half
TIJANI-MST
(for Niyi Osundare,East Ward 1987)
*prof osundare ,poetry teacher,Katrina survivor has published ,lectured poetry worldwide,he survived an accident years back that provoked this piece .hes now at the U.of NEW ORLEANS
Birds or shooting stars
Who?
Who will vaccinate African polity?
Against autolysins by parasites
Who’ll inject humane values?
Against rhetorical manifestoes
Can we know birds from the shooting stars?
Who’ll fertilize the Presidency Quest?
Who’s breeding weeds in the federal garden of 1954?
The gaga are still the denizen of the orchard since 1994
Who’ll abate the nuisance of moneybags without civil conscience?
Who are the environmentalists who’ll ensure?
What manners of men are at the helm?
Who‘ll annul frivolity?
Who’ll blame the trend regretted?
Who calls for diarchy? Can we shut off
All imperfections? Where’s the locus of power?
Can we shift the elephant?
Can we dissect the anatomy and physiology?
Of the frogs and their tadpoles?
Any biorhythm with development yearnings?
Who’ll perform governance? Who could harp
To the populist dance? Never again amphibians -
Animals with versatile lungs -
To rule as coup d’etat Breeds.
We see the reckless race
We feel the usual initial best.
Can we also forget the
Perennial worst
Who’ll annul frivolity?
It’s time for power see saw
If by the harmattan we could tell
By the dryness of the lips
And the grasses and the drizzles-
We find the worth of the rains
If there’s time in our geological Canaan
That distils and bazaar our crude oil
Without coming to meet each folded fist
It’s time for power see-saw
Because of the gap between the rich and the poor
Its time for rebirth in the posterity sense
Its better to dally with angelic Maslow’s
Theory of basic needs anointed with
Boundless subsidies than the hilarity
Of bread-alone windfall -as a lad, as a toiler
As a citizen, as a consultant or as a contractor
Waiting endlessly for fulfillment or settlement
Who’ll sedate our haughty social libido?
Sex is politics -I tell you!
We must resist power fanatics
We’re pregnant of certain barriers
Can we know birds from shooting stars?
They inhabit us. We must submit to God.
We must stop the rat race
We must annul frivolity
TIJANI-MST
Turtle shells and scapula bones
I don’t want to be in love
With a creative brick without
Optical heart of the poet’s alignment
I don’t want a wisdom shelter lacking.
I don’t want to be in love
With good housing without
Beautiful garrets of books
I don’t want to be in love
With living without reading.
I don’t’ want to be in love
Without the world treasury
I don’t want to be an emperor
Who doesn’t love reading-
I ‘ll rather be a
Kingpin of the poor
Who waits with the winning
Wisdom of the humble
I don’t want to be disciplined
Without the writing invention
TIJANI MST
A L I M E N T A T I O N [for open cargo] We 'We re here too, petrified By the road worm for stenciled notes Existing but not living Just breathing- For the tissues to respire Leaving the digestion To the desperate enzymes Saving the stories for energy crisis Don't groan - The great freedom will come Let your heart beat duly Feel the rhythm of the Senior Advocate The Sino-Auricular- Node, The Barrister of Biology Leave the stories to the sphinchter muscles And the nerves coordinating the colicky pains It does not matter their pile of stool weight As ultimate fertilizers - whether dropped at Nicon ,Meridien ,Premier or Diganga Must obey the law of gravity Don't forget that today is done Time however is immutable Delicately turn your hopes to this truth Whether the legal tender cares for everything Or its consciousness still echoes everywhere It does not matter -our eternity The great day will come Via supposedly the cheapest pool of immunity- the voters choice The
great freedom will come Forever beyond the endless M i l i t a r y p r e s i d e n c y ... TIJANI MST
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2. Request for a criticism of '' the Credo'' by Mary Ashley
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3. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (Suzanne Burns)
4. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (Suzanne Baran)
5. Ukrainian Poet's Head Is Found (JforJames at aol.com)
6. Fw: poetry book (Anny Ballardini)
7. Re: Fw: poetry book (Rebuketheworld at aol.com)
8. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (Rebuketheworld at aol.com)
9. Re: Fw: poetry book (Jeff Newberry)
10. Re: Fw: poetry book (JforJames at aol.com)
11. Re: Fw: poetry book (LauraHeidy at aol.com)
12. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (Anny Ballardini)
13. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (JforJames at aol.com)
14. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (Chris Stroffolino)
15. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (Joseph Duemer)
16. Re: Request for a criticism of '' the Credo'' by Mary Ashley
Townsend. (Joseph Duemer)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:09:12 -0600
From: "Ed"
Subject: [New-Poetry] from Ed Roberts
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Does Poetry Have A Social Function?
The answer to this question is simple, yes.
I could show you what poetry can do if you'd like but I'm not sure there is
room here to do so.
Poetry can change a person's life.
In some cases it can save one's as well.
Poetry may not feed your mouth but it can reward your soul in ways you might
not even be able to imagine.
I started a project last year The Poetry For Life Project
www.thepoetryforlifeproject.com
This is a tool I put together to help those who want to help others, yes,
with poetry.
I posted a few comments people have left on my main site in my MySpace blog
www.myspace.com/amayhem
If you get the chance please stop by, let me know what you think.
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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:20:25 +0000
From: "salia daman"
Subject: [New-Poetry] Request for a criticism of '' the Credo'' by
Mary Ashley Townsend.
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I came upon your website when I was in the quest for criticism on the poem
'' The Credo'' by Mary Asley Townsend. I wish to receive informations about
her literary movement and her religious and political tendency. How far has
she been effective in the American women literary movement?
I give thanks in advance for your contibution to provide me with some
resources in this regard.
I am looking forward to sending some comentary on this topic in the near
future.
Thanks.
Salia.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 14:23:15 -0500
From: "Suzanne Burns"
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Does Poetry Have A Social Function?
To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &, Views"
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On 1/2/07, JforJames at aol.com wrote:
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>
> So does poetry have a social function? If so, why? If not, why
> not?
>
My first thought was to be a terrible wise-ass in reply "Well Jim,
considering how many young swains use poetry as a way to get laid...."
Seriously: do we not hear the clinking of ice in glasses as yonder poetry
reading? :-)
Then I read the discussion, and thought about it less sardonically. I have
to say I really loved Daisy Fried's contribution, especially her question
(Im paraphrasing) "Why is it that poetry is expected to always do more than
just be what it is?"
Obviously there are plenty of poets who are deeply social in their
consciousness, and the role theiy play in a community is a huge part of
their vision (I'm thinking of Adrienne Rich and Denise Levertov here). They
want to change the world. Are they less as poets because they aren't
hermits on the mountaintop? Does being a hermit on the mountaintop have to
preclude changing the world?
On the other hand, what about Emily Dickinson (everybody's favorite
recluse)? I don't see very much that I would call "social" in her work.
Emily Bronte? Robinson Jeffers? Han-Shan? They are all rather like looking
at "social" through the wrong end of a telescope.
So I guess my answer would be that poetry is about as social or anti-social
as people are. That's covers a pretty wide spectrum.
Suzanne Burns
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:30:08 -0800
From: "Suzanne Baran"
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Does Poetry Have A Social Function?
To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &, Views"
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Suzanne,
Beautifully written and well stated. I agree most with the sentiments about
Adrienne Rich.
--Suzanne Baran
On 1/3/07, Suzanne Burns wrote:
>
>
>
> On 1/2/07, JforJames at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > So does poetry have a social function? If so, why? If not, why
> > not?
> >
>
>
> My first thought was to be a terrible wise-ass in reply "Well Jim,
> considering how many young swains use poetry as a way to get laid...."
> Seriously: do we not hear the clinking of ice in glasses as yonder poetry
> reading? :-)
>
> Then I read the discussion, and thought about it less sardonically. I
> have to say I really loved Daisy Fried's contribution, especially her
> question (Im paraphrasing) "Why is it that poetry is expected to always do
> more than just be what it is?"
>
> Obviously there are plenty of poets who are deeply social in their
> consciousness, and the role theiy play in a community is a huge part of
> their vision (I'm thinking of Adrienne Rich and Denise Levertov here). They
> want to change the world. Are they less as poets because they aren't
> hermits on the mountaintop? Does being a hermit on the mountaintop have to
> preclude changing the world?
>
> On the other hand, what about Emily Dickinson (everybody's favorite
> recluse)? I don't see very much that I would call "social" in her work.
> Emily Bronte? Robinson Jeffers? Han-Shan? They are all rather like looking
> at "social" through the wrong end of a telescope.
>
> So I guess my answer would be that poetry is about as social or
> anti-social as people are. That's covers a pretty wide spectrum.
>
> Suzanne Burns
>
>
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:22:31 EST
From: JforJames at aol.com
Subject: [New-Poetry] Ukrainian Poet's Head Is Found
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_http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2007/01/02/statue-bronze.html_
(http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2007/01/02/statue-bronze.html)
Stolen sculpture's head found at Ontario smelter
Last Updated: Wednesday, January 3, 2007 | 7:04 AM ET
CBC News
Days after a two-tonne, seven-metre-high bronze statue of a famous Ukrainian
poet was reported stolen from a park in Oakville, Ont., its head has turned
up at a nearby smelter.
The statue of Taras Shevchenko — a 19th-century artist and poet credited
with establishing the modern Ukrainian literary language — was discovered
missing on the weekend by two visitors to a 16-acre memorial park in North
Oakville. Police believe it could have been stolen anytime between Dec. 15-31.
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 22:35:14 +0100
From: "Anny Ballardini"
Subject: [New-Poetry] Fw: poetry book
To: "New Poetry"
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too tempting_ could not keep it for myself, see here:
----- Original Message -----
From: aroona reejhsinghani
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: poetry book
Dear friend,
Before I proced further I must introduce myself,my name is Mrs Aroona Reejhsinghani I have written more then 200 books,I am in limca book of records which is equivalent to guiness book of world records in India,I have also been congratulated by guiness book of world records,I was nominated by the American biographical society as the most outstanding woman of the last century
The reason for writing to you is that I have founded Authors Association of India which is a registered charitable trust,its an association of writers,poets and journalists,it is five years old and we have brought out 3 poetry books in which fifty poets have participated,now we are bringing out an international anthology of poetry,we would be happy if you participate in the book for 5 pages we take rupees one thousand from Indian writers and rupees two thousands from writers from outside India, which includes your photo biodata and address these books are sent to all the major newspapers for reviewing and they are released at a big function where the function is covered by Tv and press,we would prin your poems along with your short biography and photograph,incase you are interested we would like to hear from you soon,please tell your friends about us or you can write about us in your newspapers so that others too come to know about us
If you want to know more about me you can go on googles and type out my name,in a few seconds you will see me listed on numerous sites
With best of regards,
Mrs Aroona Reejhsinghani
Chairman and president authors association of india
Add 502 bwing leela apts opp gulmohur garden yaari road versova mumbai -61 INDIA
Phones 91 022 26360224 91 022 9322247390
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:40:24 EST
From: Rebuketheworld at aol.com
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Congratulations Anny! ~Raven
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:50:06 EST
From: Rebuketheworld at aol.com
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Does Poetry Have A Social Function?
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In a message dated 1/3/2007 11:30:58 AM Pacific Standard Time,
screwzbaran at gmail.com writes:
Why is it that poetry is expected to always do more than just be what it
is?"
Suzanne, I wanted to say that I also enjoyed your take. I do not know a
long list of poets but I think its fair to say that we can be marveled by a
poets gift in magnifying language without a grand story to tell or a poets gift
for content and its measure for human good. I think the loner on the hilltop
might do both. ~Raven
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:54:34 -0500
From: "Jeff Newberry"
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Fw: poetry book
To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &, Views"
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Good Lord. This can't be serious.
Jeff Newberry
On 1/3/07, Anny Ballardini wrote:
>
> too tempting_ could not keep it for myself, see here:
>
> ----- Original Message ----- *From:* aroona reejhsinghani
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:50 PM
> *Subject:* poetry book
>
>
> Dear friend,
> Before I proced further I must introduce myself,my name is Mrs Aroona
> Reejhsinghani I have written more then 200 books,I am in limca book of
> records which is equivalent to guiness book of world records in India,I have
> also been congratulated by guiness book of world records,I was nominated by
> the American biographical society as the most outstanding woman of the
> last century
> The reason for writing to you is that I have founded Authors Association
> of India which is a registered charitable trust,its an association of
> writers,poets and journalists,it is five years old and we have brought out 3
> poetry books in which fifty poets have participated,now we are bringing out
> an international anthology of poetry,we would be happy if you participate in
> the book for 5 pages we take rupees one thousand from Indian writers and
> rupees two thousands from writers from outside India, which includes your
> photo biodata and address these books are sent to all the major newspapers
> for reviewing and they are released at a big function where the function is
> covered by Tv and press,we would prin your poems along with your short
> biography and photograph,incase you are interested we would like to hear
> from you soon,please tell your friends about us or you can write about us in
> your newspapers so that others too come to know about us
> If you want to know more about me you can go on googles and type out my
> name,in a few seconds you will see me listed on numerous sites
> With best of regards,
> Mrs Aroona Reejhsinghani
> Chairman and president authors association of india
> Add 502 bwing leela apts opp gulmohur garden yaari road versova mumbai -61
> INDIA
>
> Phones 91 022 26360224 91 022 9322247390
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:07:47 EST
From: JforJames at aol.com
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Fw: poetry book
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Jeff, cough up those two thousand rupees you've been saving
for a Monsoon day. No more hiding your light under
a cobra basket.
Finnegan
In a message dated 1/3/2007 4:55:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jeff.newberry at gmail.com writes:
Good Lord. This can't be serious.
Jeff Newberry
On 1/3/07, Anny Ballardini <_anny.ballardini at tin.it_
(mailto:anny.ballardini at tin.it) > wrote:
too tempting_ could not keep it for myself, see here:
----- Original Message -----
From: _aroona reejhsinghani_ (mailto:areejhsinghani at yahoo.com)
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: poetry book
Dear friend,
Before I proced further I must introduce myself,my name is Mrs Aroona
Reejhsinghani I have written more then 200 books,I am in limca book of records
which is equivalent to guiness book of world records in India,I have also been
congratulated by guiness book of world records,I was nominated by the American
biographical society as the most outstanding woman of the last century
The reason for writing to you is that I have founded Authors Association of
India which is a registered charitable trust,its an association of
writers,poets and journalists,it is five years old and we have brought out 3 poetry
books in which fifty poets have participated,now we are bringing out an
international anthology of poetry,we would be happy if you participate in the book
for 5 pages we take rupees one thousand from Indian writers and rupees two
thousands from writers from outside India, which includes your photo biodata
and address these books are sent to all the major newspapers for reviewing
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:32:06 EST
From: LauraHeidy at aol.com
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Fw: poetry book
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In a message dated 1/3/2007 4:55:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jeff.newberry at gmail.com writes:
Good Lord. This can't be serious.
Jeff Newberry
Not unless you've got 2,000 rupees.
In her defense, the woman who wrote to Anny actually HAS written at least
150 books - and only 125 of them were cookbooks on Indian cuisine. (No mention
was made on the subject matter of the remaining 25 and absolutely no
information on any poetry books came to light but you gotta figure people are
probably way more interested in eating than they are in reading.)
(Hey, what the hell - I'm home sick from work with nothing much to do other
than find a good reason not to do laundry. Checking out her pro-offered
credentials on behalf of everyone here seemed looked like a damn good reason to
postpone real life.)
After all, there is 2,000 rupees at stake.
Lo
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 23:34:49 +0100
From: "Anny Ballardini"
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Does Poetry Have A Social Function?
To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views"
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