[New-Poetry] Re: New-Poetry Digest, Vol 31, Issue 5
gbemi tijani-mst
hammerword2000 at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Jan 4 14:49:18 EST 2007
YES I CONCUR THAT POETRY HAS A SOCIAL FUNCTION POLITICALLY,PSYCHOLOGICALLY,SPIRITUALLY AND much more than just the intellectual exercise MOST WILL READILY ascribe its impact interiorly and exteriorly including its bouying effect on readers be they writers or poets themselves Or again as civic mandate protectors or genuine activists -how much more for enthusiasts...I
magine Marlowe 's WHO EVER LOVED, THAT DOES NOT LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT?This is simply an inevitable poetic vulnerability most people must have experienced then and now...i wish time permits more to afford contibutions to Susane Burns & this perennially valid poser by the ED ROBERTS-Does poetry have a social function? Sometimes poetry feeds mu soul satisfactorily to the extent i 'm somehow renewed in the actual sense of the word askance -it has a healing significance on ones total psyche partly because one goes to a strange or familiar poetry without force imbued with an expectation that a special language or philosophy will be emotionally or intellectually useful or at least be or become a substrate for further musing that's if ones not taken by the scruff of the neck instantly or presently...Atimes i cant even explain which one is practically indispensable to my holistic being ! - secular poetry or their professionally informed commentary especially the sustained fora
afforded by the internet and NEW POETRY Oor the transcedental sweetness of sacred ,biblical poetry a.Despite the latter 's special spiritual applications -their potency are also enhanced by poets annotationsand comments to simply and offer theoretical explanations of these archival literary sgacity.I dont think i dont love poetry -love poetry beyond the laughjing thighs and joyfully playfully erotic poetry-common to all intellects globally...i hope internet time will permit these selected poems-personal,political,panergyric
selected from my modest mind across the years-
gbemi tijani mst 4 107
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Today's Topics:
1. from Ed Roberts (Ed)
2. Request for a criticism of '' the Credo'' by Mary Ashley
Townsend. (salia daman)
3. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (Suzanne Burns)
4. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (Suzanne Baran)
5. Ukrainian Poet's Head Is Found (JforJames at aol.com)
6. Fw: poetry book (Anny Ballardini)
7. Re: Fw: poetry book (Rebuketheworld at aol.com)
8. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (Rebuketheworld at aol.com)
9. Re: Fw: poetry book (Jeff Newberry)
10. Re: Fw: poetry book (JforJames at aol.com)
11. Re: Fw: poetry book (LauraHeidy at aol.com)
12. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (Anny Ballardini)
13. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (JforJames at aol.com)
14. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (Chris Stroffolino)
15. Re: Does Poetry Have A Social Function? (Joseph Duemer)
16. Re: Request for a criticism of '' the Credo'' by Mary Ashley
Townsend. (Joseph Duemer)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:09:12 -0600
From: "Ed"
Subject: [New-Poetry] from Ed Roberts
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Does Poetry Have A Social Function?
The answer to this question is simple, yes.
I could show you what poetry can do if you'd like but I'm not sure there is
room here to do so.
Poetry can change a person's life.
In some cases it can save one's as well.
Poetry may not feed your mouth but it can reward your soul in ways you might
not even be able to imagine.
I started a project last year The Poetry For Life Project
www.thepoetryforlifeproject.com
This is a tool I put together to help those who want to help others, yes,
with poetry.
I posted a few comments people have left on my main site in my MySpace blog
www.myspace.com/amayhem
If you get the chance please stop by, let me know what you think.
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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:20:25 +0000
From: "salia daman"
Subject: [New-Poetry] Request for a criticism of '' the Credo'' by
Mary Ashley Townsend.
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I came upon your website when I was in the quest for criticism on the poem
'' The Credo'' by Mary Asley Townsend. I wish to receive informations about
her literary movement and her religious and political tendency. How far has
she been effective in the American women literary movement?
I give thanks in advance for your contibution to provide me with some
resources in this regard.
I am looking forward to sending some comentary on this topic in the near
future.
Thanks.
Salia.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 14:23:15 -0500
From: "Suzanne Burns"
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Does Poetry Have A Social Function?
To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &, Views"
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On 1/2/07, JforJames at aol.com wrote:
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>
> So does poetry have a social function? If so, why? If not, why
> not?
>
My first thought was to be a terrible wise-ass in reply "Well Jim,
considering how many young swains use poetry as a way to get laid...."
Seriously: do we not hear the clinking of ice in glasses as yonder poetry
reading? :-)
Then I read the discussion, and thought about it less sardonically. I have
to say I really loved Daisy Fried's contribution, especially her question
(Im paraphrasing) "Why is it that poetry is expected to always do more than
just be what it is?"
Obviously there are plenty of poets who are deeply social in their
consciousness, and the role theiy play in a community is a huge part of
their vision (I'm thinking of Adrienne Rich and Denise Levertov here). They
want to change the world. Are they less as poets because they aren't
hermits on the mountaintop? Does being a hermit on the mountaintop have to
preclude changing the world?
On the other hand, what about Emily Dickinson (everybody's favorite
recluse)? I don't see very much that I would call "social" in her work.
Emily Bronte? Robinson Jeffers? Han-Shan? They are all rather like looking
at "social" through the wrong end of a telescope.
So I guess my answer would be that poetry is about as social or anti-social
as people are. That's covers a pretty wide spectrum.
Suzanne Burns
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:30:08 -0800
From: "Suzanne Baran"
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Does Poetry Have A Social Function?
To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &, Views"
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Suzanne,
Beautifully written and well stated. I agree most with the sentiments about
Adrienne Rich.
--Suzanne Baran
On 1/3/07, Suzanne Burns wrote:
>
>
>
> On 1/2/07, JforJames at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > So does poetry have a social function? If so, why? If not, why
> > not?
> >
>
>
> My first thought was to be a terrible wise-ass in reply "Well Jim,
> considering how many young swains use poetry as a way to get laid...."
> Seriously: do we not hear the clinking of ice in glasses as yonder poetry
> reading? :-)
>
> Then I read the discussion, and thought about it less sardonically. I
> have to say I really loved Daisy Fried's contribution, especially her
> question (Im paraphrasing) "Why is it that poetry is expected to always do
> more than just be what it is?"
>
> Obviously there are plenty of poets who are deeply social in their
> consciousness, and the role theiy play in a community is a huge part of
> their vision (I'm thinking of Adrienne Rich and Denise Levertov here). They
> want to change the world. Are they less as poets because they aren't
> hermits on the mountaintop? Does being a hermit on the mountaintop have to
> preclude changing the world?
>
> On the other hand, what about Emily Dickinson (everybody's favorite
> recluse)? I don't see very much that I would call "social" in her work.
> Emily Bronte? Robinson Jeffers? Han-Shan? They are all rather like looking
> at "social" through the wrong end of a telescope.
>
> So I guess my answer would be that poetry is about as social or
> anti-social as people are. That's covers a pretty wide spectrum.
>
> Suzanne Burns
>
>
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terrible drug - ourselves - which we take in solitude." - Walter Benjamin
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:22:31 EST
From: JforJames at aol.com
Subject: [New-Poetry] Ukrainian Poet's Head Is Found
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_http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2007/01/02/statue-bronze.html_
(http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2007/01/02/statue-bronze.html)
Stolen sculpture's head found at Ontario smelter
Last Updated: Wednesday, January 3, 2007 | 7:04 AM ET
CBC News
Days after a two-tonne, seven-metre-high bronze statue of a famous Ukrainian
poet was reported stolen from a park in Oakville, Ont., its head has turned
up at a nearby smelter.
The statue of Taras Shevchenko — a 19th-century artist and poet credited
with establishing the modern Ukrainian literary language — was discovered
missing on the weekend by two visitors to a 16-acre memorial park in North
Oakville. Police believe it could have been stolen anytime between Dec. 15-31.
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 22:35:14 +0100
From: "Anny Ballardini"
Subject: [New-Poetry] Fw: poetry book
To: "New Poetry"
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too tempting_ could not keep it for myself, see here:
----- Original Message -----
From: aroona reejhsinghani
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: poetry book
Dear friend,
Before I proced further I must introduce myself,my name is Mrs Aroona Reejhsinghani I have written more then 200 books,I am in limca book of records which is equivalent to guiness book of world records in India,I have also been congratulated by guiness book of world records,I was nominated by the American biographical society as the most outstanding woman of the last century
The reason for writing to you is that I have founded Authors Association of India which is a registered charitable trust,its an association of writers,poets and journalists,it is five years old and we have brought out 3 poetry books in which fifty poets have participated,now we are bringing out an international anthology of poetry,we would be happy if you participate in the book for 5 pages we take rupees one thousand from Indian writers and rupees two thousands from writers from outside India, which includes your photo biodata and address these books are sent to all the major newspapers for reviewing and they are released at a big function where the function is covered by Tv and press,we would prin your poems along with your short biography and photograph,incase you are interested we would like to hear from you soon,please tell your friends about us or you can write about us in your newspapers so that others too come to know about us
If you want to know more about me you can go on googles and type out my name,in a few seconds you will see me listed on numerous sites
With best of regards,
Mrs Aroona Reejhsinghani
Chairman and president authors association of india
Add 502 bwing leela apts opp gulmohur garden yaari road versova mumbai -61 INDIA
Phones 91 022 26360224 91 022 9322247390
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:40:24 EST
From: Rebuketheworld at aol.com
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Fw: poetry book
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Congratulations Anny! ~Raven
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:50:06 EST
From: Rebuketheworld at aol.com
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Does Poetry Have A Social Function?
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In a message dated 1/3/2007 11:30:58 AM Pacific Standard Time,
screwzbaran at gmail.com writes:
Why is it that poetry is expected to always do more than just be what it
is?"
Suzanne, I wanted to say that I also enjoyed your take. I do not know a
long list of poets but I think its fair to say that we can be marveled by a
poets gift in magnifying language without a grand story to tell or a poets gift
for content and its measure for human good. I think the loner on the hilltop
might do both. ~Raven
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:54:34 -0500
From: "Jeff Newberry"
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Fw: poetry book
To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News &, Views"
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Good Lord. This can't be serious.
Jeff Newberry
On 1/3/07, Anny Ballardini wrote:
>
> too tempting_ could not keep it for myself, see here:
>
> ----- Original Message ----- *From:* aroona reejhsinghani
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:50 PM
> *Subject:* poetry book
>
>
> Dear friend,
> Before I proced further I must introduce myself,my name is Mrs Aroona
> Reejhsinghani I have written more then 200 books,I am in limca book of
> records which is equivalent to guiness book of world records in India,I have
> also been congratulated by guiness book of world records,I was nominated by
> the American biographical society as the most outstanding woman of the
> last century
> The reason for writing to you is that I have founded Authors Association
> of India which is a registered charitable trust,its an association of
> writers,poets and journalists,it is five years old and we have brought out 3
> poetry books in which fifty poets have participated,now we are bringing out
> an international anthology of poetry,we would be happy if you participate in
> the book for 5 pages we take rupees one thousand from Indian writers and
> rupees two thousands from writers from outside India, which includes your
> photo biodata and address these books are sent to all the major newspapers
> for reviewing and they are released at a big function where the function is
> covered by Tv and press,we would prin your poems along with your short
> biography and photograph,incase you are interested we would like to hear
> from you soon,please tell your friends about us or you can write about us in
> your newspapers so that others too come to know about us
> If you want to know more about me you can go on googles and type out my
> name,in a few seconds you will see me listed on numerous sites
> With best of regards,
> Mrs Aroona Reejhsinghani
> Chairman and president authors association of india
> Add 502 bwing leela apts opp gulmohur garden yaari road versova mumbai -61
> INDIA
>
> Phones 91 022 26360224 91 022 9322247390
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:07:47 EST
From: JforJames at aol.com
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Fw: poetry book
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Jeff, cough up those two thousand rupees you've been saving
for a Monsoon day. No more hiding your light under
a cobra basket.
Finnegan
In a message dated 1/3/2007 4:55:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jeff.newberry at gmail.com writes:
Good Lord. This can't be serious.
Jeff Newberry
On 1/3/07, Anny Ballardini <_anny.ballardini at tin.it_
(mailto:anny.ballardini at tin.it) > wrote:
too tempting_ could not keep it for myself, see here:
----- Original Message -----
From: _aroona reejhsinghani_ (mailto:areejhsinghani at yahoo.com)
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: poetry book
Dear friend,
Before I proced further I must introduce myself,my name is Mrs Aroona
Reejhsinghani I have written more then 200 books,I am in limca book of records
which is equivalent to guiness book of world records in India,I have also been
congratulated by guiness book of world records,I was nominated by the American
biographical society as the most outstanding woman of the last century
The reason for writing to you is that I have founded Authors Association of
India which is a registered charitable trust,its an association of
writers,poets and journalists,it is five years old and we have brought out 3 poetry
books in which fifty poets have participated,now we are bringing out an
international anthology of poetry,we would be happy if you participate in the book
for 5 pages we take rupees one thousand from Indian writers and rupees two
thousands from writers from outside India, which includes your photo biodata
and address these books are sent to all the major newspapers for reviewing
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:32:06 EST
From: LauraHeidy at aol.com
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Fw: poetry book
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In a message dated 1/3/2007 4:55:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jeff.newberry at gmail.com writes:
Good Lord. This can't be serious.
Jeff Newberry
Not unless you've got 2,000 rupees.
In her defense, the woman who wrote to Anny actually HAS written at least
150 books - and only 125 of them were cookbooks on Indian cuisine. (No mention
was made on the subject matter of the remaining 25 and absolutely no
information on any poetry books came to light but you gotta figure people are
probably way more interested in eating than they are in reading.)
(Hey, what the hell - I'm home sick from work with nothing much to do other
than find a good reason not to do laundry. Checking out her pro-offered
credentials on behalf of everyone here seemed looked like a damn good reason to
postpone real life.)
After all, there is 2,000 rupees at stake.
Lo
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 23:34:49 +0100
From: "Anny Ballardini"
Subject: Re: [New-Poetry] Does Poetry Have A Social Function?
To: "NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views"
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