[New-Poetry] Fwd: Poet of the Month or Poetry versus Painting

[TheOldMole]

Yeah, but there's not the same kind of obligation to that particular 
tree, and the tree won't get mad if you don't meet its standards. The 
volume and credibility and shades of light come from a different place.

Anny Ballardini wrote:
> Thank you Tad. I agree with the non-thinking aspect, not specifically 
> in painting. I just picked up crochet, and yes, that was not to think. 
> But even with crochet you have to think if you want to make something, 
> so I just worked straight through, a long narrow senseless stripe.
>
> And yes, with portraits you have to apply your self, but also with 
> trees, and leaves (ah how difficult those leaves) to give them volume 
> and credibility and shades and light... My poor poor head, if only I 
> had a spare one to use once in a while, :-)
>
> From: "TheOldMole" <Opus40-01 at opus40.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:56 AM
>
>
>> I always thought, until I started doing it, that painting was much 
>> easier, because you didn't have to come up with a subject -- you 
>> could just go find a tree, or a nude, or the dishes in your sink, and 
>> start painting. And actually I still do think that, to some extent.
>>
>> But I'd mostly take issue with Mr. Clare Rossini on the question of 
>> just coming out and saying what you mean. I go along with whoever 
>> said if know what you want to say, it's by definition not worth 
>> saying. And if it was me that said that, then I go along with me.
>>
>> When I draw or paint, I do it with my hand and eye -- I try to engage 
>> my conscious mind in the process as little as possible. That's why, 
>> even though I've done all those poetry portraits, I'm never really 
>> happy doing portraits, because you have to think -- what does this 
>> person really look like? What do I have to do to capture that?
>>
>>
>>
>> Anny Ballardini wrote:
>>> What does Tad Richards think, and what do I think, or other people 
>>> who try or tried to master both?
>>> "My husband is a painter, and he often says he envies poets—“You 
>>> guys can just come out and say what you mean,” he says. Oh, honey! 
>>> Mine has been a long abidance with words, and I still feel the 
>>> frustration of how often they come up short. There’s this diffuse 
>>> image-thought-energy-emotion nebula floating around in the head, 
>>> with patches of darkness and quivers of light. And on the page, 
>>> draft after draft after draft, all taking stabs at getting it down, 
>>> much less getting it right. The writing process is a long interior 
>>> conversation, with all parts of the self, and it dwindles at times 
>>> to a self-interrogation, without the strobes. What comes out of all 
>>> this? Sometimes pitifully little. Death, especially, exposes the 
>>> limitations of language. Every funeral or memorial service I’ve been 
>>> to has made me aware that language, like some kind of old-fashioned, 
>>> fussy wallpaper, merely covers over all the bumps and crevasses. On 
>>> the other hand, without hymns or homilies or poems, how would we 
>>> deal with the rotten luck of our mortality? Let’s face it, after 
>>> awhile, the silence gets to you."
>>> Clare Rossini
>>>
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>     *From:* jforjames at aol.com <mailto:jforjames at aol.com>
>>>     *To:* new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu 
>>> <mailto:new-poetry at wiz.cath.vt.edu>
>>>     *Sent:* Wednesday, December 12, 2007 8:45 PM
>>>     *Subject:* [New-Poetry] Fwd: Poet of the Month
>>>
>>>     I'll top David's Verse Daily pick. Someone I know is Poet of the
>>>     Month...
>>>     http://poetrynet.org/month/index.htm.
>>>     Clare Rossini
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>>
>> -- 
>> Tad Richards
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>> The moral is this: in American verse,
>> The better you are, the pay is worse.
>>  --Corey Ford
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Tad Richards
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The moral is this: in American verse,
The better you are, the pay is worse.
  --Corey Ford