[New-Poetry] crooks a poet should owe

[TheOldMole]

Chris -- no, but if you find one, let me know.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris Stroffolino 
  To: NewPoetry: Contemporary Poetry News & Views 
  Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 8:09 PM
  Subject: [New-Poetry] crooks a poet should owe


  I think it's really cool that Robin and Bob and I share this "other side" aspect 
  (for the benefit of the others, I mean that we're also on a Shakespeare list....)


  Hey, Tad, (or others) are there any cool songwriters' lists out there you're on?


  ...hmmm....wondering if my "theme question" will remain unanswered or addressed...
  and, if so, is it coz I hit a nerve?      or am just so 'out of the loop'


  so maybe i'll reframe the question some time....


  in the meantime, I hold out hope that the extra hour I won't have to pay rent for until April
  will be a productive and/or fun one....


  Oh yeah, and Lord Byron aside, reading Cohen's '78 Penguin "Death Of Ladies Man,"
  is pretty fascinating---
  Funny, how when all the 'low' and/or populist and/or popular or "accessible"
  poetry discussion comes up, there's a lot of Collins (Kooser?) and Bukowski
  (oh this might happen more on the other list---but I think it happens here too)
  but there hardly ever is Cohen....


  Then we get the Merle, Dylan, Joni Mitchell, etc songwriters things much more on this list--


  But Cohen is singularly fascinating to me, coz of having been trained as a page-poet
  and then doing the music thing--and sort of trying to come back to the page thing in "Death
  Of A ladies Man" (the book not the album of the same name)
  Oh, and a very interesting comparison could be made
  between the kinds of 'sexism' in Bukowski compared to Cohen---or, more benignly, gender issues--
  so-called 'transgressive heterosexuality' (which may very well much more the norm 
  than is let on---
  Anyway, that's just my current little "poetry-related" obsession, being much younger
  than Cohen but going through similar struggles between these two specialized 'genres'
  and/or 'social worlds,'  needing to put them into dialogue with each other in my own art,
  and "not just my own art"----


  Chris






  On Oct 28, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Bob Grumman wrote:


    By the way, the latest Shakespeare tip from the other side is that Antonio in Merchant is a Jew who converted to Christianity.  Don't tell anyone you heard that from me, though--it may be secret info.




    --Bobblin





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